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This looks very promising!
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It's important to understand the difference, and who and what environmentalists are. They're not just the conscious person who recycles bottles and cans and drives a Prius. And they're not just activists. Those two groups are the least important groups of environmentalists. The third group are those people who have a large set of knowledge on the subject of the environment. They may be scientists, professors, speakers, philanthropists, lobbyists, executives of conservation organizations, or, retired activists, now engaging in real projects, such as the rewilding of North America using GIS databases. They are field research specialists, urban planners, entomologists, climate scientists, architects, ecologists, writers, botanists, hydroponics researchers, and so on. They are people doing herd studies in Africa, people reintroducing the wolf into Yellowstone, researchers studying trophic cascades in the northwest, people engaging in coral reef studies, educated CEOs of particular clothing companies, researchers of island biogeography, individuals developing methods for sustainable salmon fishing, documentary filmmakers... Agreed, all these professions you mention play important roles in environmentalism. I don't agree that the bottle can recyclers and activists are the least important. Recycling is vital for everyone. Some scientific research, even though professional ends up being useless, and some things activists do are important, such as getting on the news to raise awareness about an environmental issue.
I'm speaking to matt608 of the opinions of people who think of environmental activists as kooks. Continuing to act in a manner that disregards their rights, property and views while claiming an educated high ground is only going to perpetuate, or worsen, their the activists' standing in society.
For that reason, activists being more conscious of the impact that their attitudes and actions have would help. The "treehuggers" could acknowledge that should they get their way, they'll put people out of a job and make their life immediately worse, with nothing of real benefit gained within their lifetime, in the view of those impacted at least.
I'm certainly not in favour of deliberately doing things that violate rights such as property rights, unless there is good reason to do so, most activists I think would agree. For example, fracking. I don't know what your stance is on fracking but its been scientifically proven to poison ground water, pollute the air locally and release large amounts of green house gasses, as well as cause earthquakes, release radiation that was previously stored underground in the rocks, and permanently pollute huge amounts of water used in the hydraulic fracturing process. Given these facts, many activists would say that setting up a fracking rig near someone's home violates their rights, because it physically attacks them. If someone was setting off a chemical weapon with these effects we would call it a terrorist attack. So an activist chaining themselves to the gate or blocking the road to the fracking site is well within their rights, because actually, the frackers are violating the rigts of the local people and the activists is defending their rights. If the system was working properly fracking would be illegal, as it is in many countries. This is what I mean when I say the activists are often well educated and informed on the matter they are protesting agains. They know that whatever it is they are protesting against is a violation of rights, and they are prepared to violate 'lesser rights' in order to protect the more import basic rights, such as the right to clean drinking water, or the right to clean air. If someone loses their job and their job was to destroy the local environment and make climate change more severe for the profit of massive corporations, it's a good thing that they lose their job. |
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Ok all sorted, thanks. I have a spare HD which I use for backups.
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It's in a hidden directory.
/Users/{yourUserName}/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin
Ah ok thanks, found it. It comes up with these files in the bitcoin folder: wallet.dat debug.log peers.dat chainstate blocks blkindex.dat addr.dat blk0004.dat blk0003.dat blk0002.dat db.log blk0001.dat Are those all 'remnants' from bitcoin QT or do I need to keep some of them for multibit to run? |
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Hi, I was running bitcoin qt v0.84, then it said there was an error and that I had to re-sync. I heard that there was a bug in v0.84 so I downloaded v0.85 and re-synced. It took 4 days and I saw my hard drive space go down down down. Now I've switched to multibit and transferred the BTC across to my new multibit wallet. I've deleted the bitcoin qt application but that was only 30mb or so and didn't delete the massive blockchain file, but I can't seem to find it. It's still taking up loads of space but there's no file in my downloads or when I search my macbook there are no huge files recently downloaded. I'm sure I had at about 5-10gb more space before re-downloading the entire blockchain, so where is it? How do I delete it? Thank you, any help much appreciated  |
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I just bought a one ounce silver eagle with devcoins from http://www.igotspots.com/silver.html  It cost me 883,000 dvc with shipping. When I got into devcoin that amount of dvc would have bought me 7 ounces of silver. Now that there's a real world market for devcoins would not one be better off buying material goods than dumping them for some minute fraction of a bitcoin? How did I get that many devcoins? ...well I didn't dump them lol. Coin Payments should be congratulated on his check out solution for altcoins. We now have Amazon Devcoin Cards, Amazonia Imports - Pipes & Palo Santo, and I Got Spots Silver & Gold accepting devcoins. All the vendors below also use Coin Payments as a payment processor. If you are interested in their products or services why not contact them and ask if they will accept devcoins? ....That's how I got the silver. They all are set up to accept devcoins if they choose, and two new stores have been added just over this last weekend.  At my store, Amazonia Imports - Pipes & Palo Santo, all proceeds of sales will go to purchases at other devcoin accepting stores. That is how a market place forms and I urge you all to check out the stores participating in Coin Payments Also I intend to buy an ounce of silver per month to track the devcoin to silver ratio. Awesome! This is great news! I'll buy silver with my DVC too, once they are paid out next round |
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I've thought about this before. Someone could create a coin where there was a taxation rate built into every transation. Lets say 10% tax in every transaction. Then there could be a voting site where a direct digital democracy system was developed. Users of the coin would get to vote on how the taxation money was spent. They could elect officials and/or govern themselves. It's the future.
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Sadly, everyone confuses environmental efforts with activists. Understand the difference, say, between the study of ecology and its importance with someone chaining themselves to a bulldozer.
The researchers needed a study to figure this out?
Environmentalism, generally, is emotionally centered much more on being anti-human than pro-environment. Being environmentally-conscious is one thing. Standing in front of trees to prevent their harvesting, or demanding punishment for anyone altering their land because an "endangered species" is on it? That's another thing entirely.
Both studies of ecology and environmental activism are essential for the survival of the human species. You'll find most environmental activists are protesting or taking non-violent direct action because they care deeply about the survival of humanity, as well as nature. Chaining oneself to a bulldozer or standing in front of trees to protect them may feel futile, and too small an act to be worth the fuss and risk of arrest. Activists don't do these things for fun or for money, it actually cost a lot of time and money to do these things (transportation, time off work) and they are brave actions by people who recognise the urgency of our environmental situation. Usually there is a very good reason for what they are doing. For example paper should not be made from trees, it should be made from hemp and other materials. An activist can only do so much, they can chain themself to a tree sending the strong message of what they are against, but may not be given the voice to explain what they are for. Also, at such events often the debate is of a very high standard, much higher than that in parliament (talking about the UK here). Remember, there are very powerful forces at work out there to make environmental activists look like loonies and eccentrics in order to discredit them. It doesn't surprise me that the mainstream look down on them having been appeased into non-action by propaganda. If you go to such an event you'll probably be impressed and forever changed by how well educated and informed the activists are, and by how the media have falsely portrayed them. |
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My macbook has been running a lot slower ever since I downloaded the Devcoin wallet, has this happened to anyone else? I have other alt coin wallets and its fine, only had the problem since the DVC wallet install.
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On the category pages the bitroad logo on that big silver bar doesn't look good, and beneath the big bar there's smaller versions of the same logo, that doesn't look very good either. I'm also not sure about having an e-commerce site with a black background, there must be a reason hardly any sites do that, but it's not horrible or anything, it just doesn't have that 'open store' feel. It's kind of opening a high street shop with really dim lighting, it's probably going to hurt sales. Other than these basic things its good, and great to see a bitcoin store opening here in the UK |
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Looks great I'm looking for a new wallet to use now the blockchain is too big for me to store anymore. I think I'll go with multibit or electrum for now though until this has had more bug testing done, but it's looking good! |
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- offer no longer available -
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@jtimon, thank you for the reference and kind words. Yes, our “assets” colored-coin proposal is what drew me back to this proposal. If people think SatoshiDice brings a lot of traffic and bloats the block chain, wait until they see what a distributed exchange and transitive credit will do, especially once the block-size limit is relaxed.
I was under the impression coloured coins don't cause blockchain bloat, unlike Mastercoin, and that is one of its main benefits. Am I wrong? |
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If shares can be issued using ripple, wouldn't that make them dependent on ripple, i.e Open Coin? I'm still figuring out ripple, so I could be wrong. Whereas coloured coins would be much more secure, even if the exchange was a website and not in the bitcoin client the transactions would be stored in the blockchain (would they?), so if the exchange went down a new one could be put up and the shares would still be owned by their rightful owners. Am I correct?
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Idealist and entrepreneur. I wouldn't be entrepreneurial about something that wasn't in line with my ideals.
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Recently I've been trying to find developers to help me to complete colored coins client implementation, with no success: I'm now working on it alone. How is this relevant for Devcoin: OK, since it is a Devcoin thread, I have to explain why it is relevant, so: - We can discuss colored coins on Devcoin blockchain: I believe it would be beneficial to Devcoin as it will allow Devcoin users to do crowdfunding and whatnot, there is a plenty of creative uses. It won't significantly affect Devcoin blockchain unless becomes wildly popular. However, there might be a challenge in getting it to work on Devcoin chain, as devcoind is based on old version of bitcoind. (Right?)
- I'm going to request Devcoin bounties (shares) for this project, as it is an important open source project (IMHO)
- Developers can request to be paid in Devcoins (partially), in might be able to pay a bit more (e.g. out of Devcoin bounties), and BTC->DVC conversion can help Devcoin price a bit
I certainly would like to see coloured coins developed (as you know). It will be huge in the equity-crowd funding arena which is imho the where the next big wave of web development will be. Also, being a devtome writer I'm happy for Devcoin to be involved, it seems like a fitting project seeing as devtome is supposed to support all kinds of development, not just writing. Hopefully devcoin bounties will attract programmers to this project. |
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Can anyone predict when round 28 will likely be paid out?
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I published 70,000 words on Devtome last week. I've PMed unthinkingbit 3 times asking to add me to the payment list and recieved no reply, and I can't see myself on the list. Can I be added please?
Too many problems to worry about stuff like that. If you set up your userpage you should be fine. I have done, this is it, hopefully it's ok. http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:matt608 |
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I published 70,000 words on Devtome last week. I've PMed unthinkingbit 3 times asking to add me to the payment list and recieved no reply, and I can't see myself on the list. Can I be added please?
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What's impressive is that you guys seem to be ignoring any warnings of how the current valuation isn't justified by any margin.
The initial take off was due to Atlantis which has later been intensified by the Gox rumour. Before LTC was worth around a nickel. These prices were justified because of the circumstances back then, and now these circumstances are again very similar. There is no concrete use for Litecoin at this point, and when Bitcoin had the market cap of LTC in 2011 it had silkroad and a several legit merchants. All of which LTC now lacks.
This. I held LTC for months and months waiting for gox, but sold them back into BTC a few weeks ago. And now atlantis has closed and still no word from gox. Why is it any better than any of the other worthless alts apart from its 'brand' which is now quite well known? |
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