Hy guys, who thinks we will hit +25k by the end of 2018  Love to see that but its a NO from me Odds are looking pretty low at the moment, perhaps less than 15%? Or is that too bearish? We gotta get above a few pretty strong resistance points, especially between $10k and $17k.... Probably if we were able to get above $17k, then we have pretty decent chances of breaking above previous ATH from there... By the way, I am also reading your 25k as a value of about $28k, since we are talking dollars in this thread, not European funny money.  .... so yeah, once we get above the previous ATH of $19,666, then probably we will be able to get into the sub $30k territory before meeting some resistance, perhaps? The problem is so many people who bought around the end of 2017 will be holding out to sell off as soon as we get back up to the last ATH so they can get their money out. I think when we get near the ATH it wont smash straight through, as much as i would love it too. I also think people will be happy to take a risk buying now and holding until we reach the previous ATH, without them wanting to hold on any longer as they fear the retrace. They wont, because then Greed kicks in. Greed is like the bubbles in "Finding Nemo" |
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guys, i need some advice. i went full in on xmr with fiat in the early days. Should i diversify my xmr in some bitcoin? it does not look a good time to do that cause the xmr/btc ratio keeps dropping... but it looks that btc is falling a bit less hard in fiat value then xmr. Its just hard to believe at this moment we will see a new ATH in monero again in USD...
Is this significant money to your life and/or quality of life? If so I would suggest that you take some off the table and stash it in something a lot less volatile. Whatever you want to do there is up to you. Could be fiat, gold, quality (not speculative) land, really anything. Yeah, you should have done this eight months ago, but since you did not, don't compound the mistake by refusing to do it now. This does not mean dumping all your XMR, cryptos, etc. It means exactly what I said. Take some off the table and reduce risk so that you are still in decent shape in case crypto does not work out, or even eventually works out but remains in a painful bear market for far longer than anyone expects or is prepared for. If this is is not significant money to your life then just carry on with the speculation as you see fit. My 2c. Nice advice, beeing careful and mature, still i would wait for the mid of september, historically this is a month with serious gains Remember, remember the pump in September Yeeeaaaahhhh, i think we will at least see the 0,05's in the remember season  |
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Hy guys, who thinks we will hit +25k by the end of 2018 Love to see that but its a NO from me Odds are looking pretty low at the moment, perhaps less than 15%? Or is that too bearish? We gotta get above a few pretty strong resistance points, especially between $10k and $17k.... Probably if we were able to get above $17k, then we have pretty decent chances of breaking above previous ATH from there... By the way, I am also reading your 25k as a value of about $28k, since we are talking dollars in this thread, not European funny money. .... so yeah, once we get above the previous ATH of $19,666, then probably we will be able to get into the sub $30k territory before meeting some resistance, perhaps? The problem is so many people who bought around the end of 2017 will be holding out to sell off as soon as we get back up to the last ATH so they can get their money out. I think when we get near the ATH it wont smash straight through, as much as i would love it too. I also think people will be happy to take a risk buying now and holding until we reach the previous ATH, without them wanting to hold on any longer as they fear the retrace. Well that ain't bad at all and the funny european money is stronger, at the moment speaking, than this funny Petro$ based on war and destruction  |
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guys, i need some advice. i went full in on xmr with fiat in the early days. Should i diversify my xmr in some bitcoin? it does not look a good time to do that cause the xmr/btc ratio keeps dropping... but it looks that btc is falling a bit less hard in fiat value then xmr. Its just hard to believe at this moment we will see a new ATH in monero again in USD...
Is this significant money to your life and/or quality of life? If so I would suggest that you take some off the table and stash it in something a lot less volatile. Whatever you want to do there is up to you. Could be fiat, gold, quality (not speculative) land, really anything. Yeah, you should have done this eight months ago, but since you did not, don't compound the mistake by refusing to do it now. This does not mean dumping all your XMR, cryptos, etc. It means exactly what I said. Take some off the table and reduce risk so that you are still in decent shape in case crypto does not work out, or even eventually works out but remains in a painful bear market for far longer than anyone expects or is prepared for. If this is is not significant money to your life then just carry on with the speculation as you see fit. My 2c. Nice advice, beeing careful and mature, still i would wait for the mid of september, historically this is a month with serious gains |
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Man, always these dildo talks, doesn't lead to anything serious |
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This person that is so hostile to you is an agent, unwittingly or not, of U.S.A.'s policy of aggression against the Venezuelan people and its democratically elected government, because Venezuela is trying to act liberate itself from Washington's control. This person participates in this forum only to attack the Venezuelan government; he's not interested in crypto currency.
Perhaps you are right but he still understands the petro better than Maduro does. It's a double-edged sword with the average Venezuelan citizen getting fucked at both ends: - the U.S. is indeed actively trying to undermine the Venezuelan economy as punishment for not allowing their corporations entry to their country - the current administration in VE is completely inept and corrupt and absolutely do not care about bettering the lives of their people. Yes, and if somebody wants to tell me, that it is a good idea to let US cooperations into your state, then you must me out of your mind! Yes, corruption is everywhere, in some states and countries more, in some less. Look at Rumania, there the people are protesting against it since months. How about the US, in a study from a US university the US is far more near to a be lead by oligarchs than by "women and men of state" And if a stupid president tries to chocke a country just because it will not let cooperations onto it's ground, again i recall a wise man who once said "If you need vio...." Geers |
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Hy there, i find this concept really interesting and i want to participate in this project. 1.) Where can i buy into Petro (exchange)? 2.) Who is protecting my interests? 3.) Who is legally responsible for this, if it explodes for example? 4.) Is there an official Thread from the Venezuelan government on this forum? Trump is probably rolling on the floor and crying The concept is interesting and partly because its government backed in its propagation which is especially unusual. I dont suppose it will have success but its possible they create some positives by accident, the law of unintended consequences runs strong with any government operation and in this case against such a negative backdrop we can be hopeful of something occurring secondary as a positive. As far as buying Petro you probably should not unless you already do trade with Venezuela regularly. It could land you in alot of trouble possibly if you are in country holding sanctions against this regime. Most relevant for your questions might be to read on the court proceedings occurring for the debts of the PDVSA national oil company. I think their assets are being sold off to settle non payment. I doubt at this stage you would have any recourse within the country itself, these assets are USA based so Venezuela has little choice on this process where as PTR is in their hands. There is no official thread that I've seen but ask in the Spanish speaking forums perhaps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petro_(cryptocurrency) The only thing it has over the bolivar is that it can't be printed into worthlessness. The supply of PTR is not capped apparently. Really for this crypto idea to take off it needs to far less confined to the ideas of government control but it saves the wasted paper and ink Indeed, there exists a saying "The first one who steps through the door, gets shot!" Let's see how this is developing, but the fact that a state tries to get out of a grip from an invasive country by the help of this technology and idea, is worth a try. Here in Europe it's all fine with Venezuela, so it honestly doesn't bother me. I do not know what part of Europe you are. But if you do not know, it's best to shut up. Europe thinks what the rest of the world about the regime that ravages Venezuela. I honestly don't know why you are beeing so hostile towards me in person, but i do think i do know that not all Europe has the same attitude towards Venezuela as you obviously think This person that is so hostile to you is an agent, unwittingly or not, of U.S.A.'s policy of aggression against the Venezuelan people and its democratically elected government, because Venezuela is trying to act liberate itself from Washington's control. This person participates in this forum only to attack the Venezuelan government; he's not interested in crypto currency. You just made my day  You are a very funny guy, not to be taken seriously in any means  You know what i don't like about the US? They are playing police on the better half of the world and want to bring everybody and every state under their mindset and think they are doing wellfare to the rest of the globe. In fact they need the wars in an economic perspective, hence else the industrial military complex doesn't survive. The US honestly believes, that they can regulate everything with their military which implies violence, without taking into account, that in a respective and mature manner talking and solving issues and topics is far wiser, more mature and better. A wise man once said "If you need violence to get your goal, you should rethink your ideas!" My conversation with you ends at this point, you are officially on my ignorelist |
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Salve Leute,
was meint ihr, +30k Q4 2018?
2019 vielleicht. Hmm, war da nicht noch eine Wette am laufen hier im Forum? 😎 Jopidopi, deswegen wollte ich mal die Stimmung abklopfen |
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Hy there, i find this concept really interesting and i want to participate in this project. 1.) Where can i buy into Petro (exchange)? 2.) Who is protecting my interests? 3.) Who is legally responsible for this, if it explodes for example? 4.) Is there an official Thread from the Venezuelan government on this forum? Trump is probably rolling on the floor and crying The concept is interesting and partly because its government backed in its propagation which is especially unusual. I dont suppose it will have success but its possible they create some positives by accident, the law of unintended consequences runs strong with any government operation and in this case against such a negative backdrop we can be hopeful of something occurring secondary as a positive. As far as buying Petro you probably should not unless you already do trade with Venezuela regularly. It could land you in alot of trouble possibly if you are in country holding sanctions against this regime. Most relevant for your questions might be to read on the court proceedings occurring for the debts of the PDVSA national oil company. I think their assets are being sold off to settle non payment. I doubt at this stage you would have any recourse within the country itself, these assets are USA based so Venezuela has little choice on this process where as PTR is in their hands. There is no official thread that I've seen but ask in the Spanish speaking forums perhaps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petro_(cryptocurrency) The only thing it has over the bolivar is that it can't be printed into worthlessness. The supply of PTR is not capped apparently. Really for this crypto idea to take off it needs to far less confined to the ideas of government control but it saves the wasted paper and ink Indeed, there exists a saying "The first one who steps through the door, gets shot!" Let's see how this is developing, but the fact that a state tries to get out of a grip from an invasive country by the help of this technology and idea, is worth a try. Here in Europe it's all fine with Venezuela, so it honestly doesn't bother me. I do not know what part of Europe you are. But if you do not know, it's best to shut up. Europe thinks what the rest of the world about the regime that ravages Venezuela. I honestly don't know why you are beeing so hostile towards me in person, but i do think i do know that not all Europe has the same attitude towards Venezuela as you obviously think |
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guys, i need some advice. i went full in on xmr with fiat in the early days. Should i diversify my xmr in some bitcoin? it does not look a good time to do that cause the xmr/btc ratio keeps dropping... but it looks that btc is falling a bit less hard in fiat value then xmr. Its just hard to believe at this moment we will see a new ATH in monero again in USD...
Count the number of available Monero's and then tell me if you want your share. It really comes down to how long are you going to be able to hold before you need to cash out some? If your over exposed then go for it and change a percentage over but if your in long term then I really don't see a difficult choice between the two. i am following u and some other guys for quite a while now, always interested in what u guys are saying. U are right , i should have sold some int he 0.03 area just to have some bitcoin, or A bitcoin ... but i did not. I am a believer of monero for 3 years now but its my first big bear market i am really following closely. Because 18 months ago it was peanuts ( in usd value ) ... i am amazed of how sure u are and how much u believe in a new bull market. I cant help thinking that maybe we seen the top already ... even with this amazing comunity , the superiour tech ( that nobody seems to care about ) , the ledger support, the comming bulletproofs, kovri , and so much more , it looks like nobody is carring and if we would enter a bull market , maybe people will just buy more shitcoins  Don't do what I did, I sold my entire stash after 2 years of holding at $1.37 for a real life emergency and figured I could buy back in a month when I had some cash coming in after 6 months of sideways and then out of no where alpha bay hit and it went up 26 times and I was never able to get back my stack. I have been buying every week including at .032 so I'm not cashing out again if I'm on my death bed before 10K ! thx for the advice , and i am pretty comfortable holding my coins. i dont need the money, at least not for real emergencys. I do have some thoughts on what i want to do with it but it can wait. WOW , 10K monero... isnt that a bit to optimistic? what would lead to such a massive price I figure if Bitcoin can hit 20k then Monero is worth more as far a fundamentals go so eventually that info will be out in the public domain. right now the media is trying to discredit Monero just like they did to bitcoin (saying its a criminal coin). And the sheep of course listen and sell and the wolfs are sitting back and accumulating at these prices. you can easily test this just by trying to place a buy just above the current buy price and you will watch the bots jump up in front of you and continue their wash trading as they try to drive the price down. Once the price rises there will be no weak hands left, there just aren't enough coins. Until then we can accumulate what the miners are dumping and wait. And even though KN is a scumbag place, its still a nation state and if its putting it's eggs in this basket then you know it is gonna be supporting this basket. And no-one can tell me 3 letter agencies are not using this to fund off the books OPs. Easily liquid and transferable private currency will always be needed whether its for criminal activity or just to hold you assets. People build vaults for what monero provides at a much lower cost. The only way I see it not skyrocketing is if there is a flaw that can break it or a better alternative comes along and with the massive amount of Developers and just plain monitors It will be very hard to sneak in anything that will break the chain. There have been quit a few suggestions that have had the chance of sneaking in code that have been called out and then vetted. It is the communities job to monitor the progress as well as support. blind support without verification is moronic and for koolaid drinkers and if there are any of those here they need to go become a Dashtard. That's bad to hear, i hope your emergency situation is cleared by now! So you want to get 10k Moneroj? I can help you with one Monero if you like And yes, anonymity for assets is the best place to stay, even in front of all eyes where everybody watches, but doesn't know what they are looking at Any news from rpietila? Haven't heard form him quite a while now... I hope he is ok and doing fine with his kids and his family! |
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By the way, how is kovri doing? Wasn't alpha software just recently released? We actually have a buildable functional kovri for the first time now as I understand it. Seems good. I confirm that. All the previous releases have the status "alpha-rc", i.e. "pre-alpha". Official alpha has been released just few weeks ago: https://github.com/monero-project/kovri/releases/tag/v0.1.0-alphaMonero/Kovri devs do have just one disadvantage: a very... VERY poor PR activity. They often do the great things in total silence. They probably think the github activity is completely sufficient source of a new information for the whole community. That's good news though, i am eager about the security benefits it brings |
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Salve Leute,
was meint ihr, +30k Q4 2018?
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By the way, how is kovri doing? |
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Hy guys, who thinks we will hit +25k by the end of 2018 Keep dreaming, i dont think it will hit +25k by the end of 2019! Who knows |
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"feels like he has to fake a personality for the job"
the exact reason why I always preferred laborer jobs to office jobs, not many understood among my family and friends.
when i was a laborer, i noticed no one faked anything, we were all just ourselves. once i graduated to office jobs, thats when i noticed the fakers. What a load of shit. I was also a labourer and there were guys who "forgot their wallet" when it was their turn to bring the coffee which we all looked forward to on the colder days. Then there were the guys who lost their license for a DUI and tried to hide it as long as they could while sponging rides from the others under the guise of card trouble, wife needs a car I'm getting a bike soon etc... Jesus. There was tons of false bravado and comparisons cars/bikes/tattoos and who slept with the most women. People are people; it's just that the games get headier in an office environment where belching and farting aren't legitimate comebacks anymore. Also, you'd probably get fired for whistling at each woman (or man) that happened by. I couldn't afford to waste my hard-earned money on a Harley and tattoos so I was forced into the office for a while (tech stuff - mostly sealants and paint) and finally settled into a production plant environment where there are people of all types and we get diversity training so we can all get along. I have to agree on that one If on labour or in a office job, always met the same mindset. A few where open to new things and thoughts but the majority was and will just stick to things done the same way for 30 years with the same excuses |
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Q4 2018 will be very interesting for our Moneroj  |
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Hy guys, who thinks we will hit +25k by the end of 2018 |
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guys, i need some advice. i went full in on xmr with fiat in the early days. Should i diversify my xmr in some bitcoin? it does not look a good time to do that cause the xmr/btc ratio keeps dropping... but it looks that btc is falling a bit less hard in fiat value then xmr. Its just hard to believe at this moment we will see a new ATH in monero again in USD...
I am positive we will see it. To bad you had not decide this only few 3 months ago when price was 0.032. I would not want to give you advice's, but still I am not sure it is the best moment for this. But I suggest you to eventually do it. even if your bitcoins goes to zero you will still have your Monero. i am following u and some other guys for quite a while now, always interested in what u guys are saying. U are right , i should have sold some int he 0.03 area just to have some bitcoin, or A bitcoin ... but i did not. I am a believer of monero for 3 years now but its my first big bear market i am really following closely. Because 18 months ago it was peanuts ( in usd value ) ... i am amazed of how sure u are and how much u believe in a new bull market. I cant help thinking that maybe we seen the top already ... even with this amazing comunity , the superiour tech ( that nobody seems to care about ) , the ledger support, the comming bulletproofs, kovri , and so much more , it looks like nobody is carring and if we would enter a bull market , maybe people will just buy more shitcoins In summer, the crypto market generally can be a little boring. The Wall Street money in on holiday as are people in many fields of life; it's not tax season... and with a bear market too, it can be grindingly dull. However, many of those here have seen it all before and they know that BECAUSE they held from 2014 to 2016, they were there in 2017 for when it picked up again. So in crypto you just have to sit tight. Both Monero and Bitcoin have gone up thousands of % in a few years. Yes, you are right, Monero and most alts have gone down more than Bitcoin, but when the alts which are still around recover, they will appreciate fast, too. Febo is right, we ALL should have sold some at 0.32, parked it in BTC and bought back at 0.0129. But we have no crystal ball and the vast majority of us didn't. Be assured, though - getting it wrong is always more expensive than hodling in the long run. That's why the old guard here are not panicking. It might go on for longer, but you will not have to stress about when to buy back in if you just HODL. If most of your cash is in Monero you are not alone, I can assure you. It hurts, yep. But when it rises again (and personally I think it will) Monero tends to move up fast. And you will be glad you didn't flip if it does. Do your own research, of course - I am a fanboy. TLDR: Probably missed the best time to flip, likely best policy now? Just HODL Nothing to add, this is just the way it goes I am a noob in crypto, got in the whole thing in 2013, and bought my first XMR in 2014 thanks to the finisch guy living in a silver castle Started with a few hundred euro every month to buy BTC and converted it to XMR. I made a lot of mistakes with trading, lost a lot, made it up again and learned how the market is behaving. In 2015 also made a panic sell (thoughti was wiser than everybody else) that hurt me big time. Recovered from that again and now i am sitting and watching the situation without my pulse gaining even 5 points in this situation. If i look at the RSI we definetly are at the bottom and as kurios already mentioned, XMR is known for recovering fast, so i wouldnt't be surprised if we are getting at RSI 80 ore more with a massive price increase until mid of september. TLDR: Just HODL, have a cup of tea, relax, and wait for christmas |
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