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I encourage you to prove me incorrect and flawed, BadBear. I would genuinely appreciate it if you did.
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At the very least, if Atlas is going to be a part of these forums again, we should consider a "Scammer" label over his theft of CPU cycles for Bitcoin mining on webpages via Javascript, or a formal "Troll" tag. I'm stunned that Atlas was allowed back considering his long history of drama. He's back one day and already his posts are getting archived. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108663.0I mean come on. The last thing this community needs is more crazy people and trolls. EDIT: And as if to prove my point right on cue. I'm so scared, BadBear.
Anyways, you define trolling as anything you don't like. I don't like your attitude, Mr. Troll. You treat me like trash and I won't stand under it.
Don't expect any respect from me. I've been patient with you in the past. I won't be any longer.
It's scheiße like this why he should not be allowed back. +1 And I don't want respect, I just want you to stop trolling and being disruptive. And yes I consider image macros and ad homs trolling. I do not intentionally disrupt people. I do not troll. It's not my fault people do not agree with what I say or who I am. It's not my fault that some people may become emotionally off-kilter around me. In fact, I have yet to see concrete evidence that a good majority of my posts can be considered "trolling" or disruptive. I think it's just a slur for "I don't like you." Additionally, I would encourage you to provide evidence of me using an ad hominem as a backing to a subject-based argument. As far as I see, that is unfounded. In fact my actions lack real notability as compared to more intentional trolling done by you or others. You citing that I was so unintelligent as to not recognize what an escrow is in a previous discussion does not lend you much credence. You, my friend, disrupted that discussion. You, yourself, have been trolling. You, yourself, created an ad hominem. So to say you are serving a greater good of preventing trolling and disruption is hypocritical to me. Trolling by you seems to be justice while all else is crime. |
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I do not troll. I do not harass. I do not defame. I do not wish to exercise authority over other people emotionally or otherwise. I simply speak my mind. People who disagree with me in whatever way, deride my thoughts and call them whatever they wish. Sometimes they call them trolling because my perspective affects them, as inadvertent that is.
I have an off-kilter personality. Some people do not prefer my online personality. That can be accepted. What I will not accept is the idea that I attempt to harm or control others just by being myself.
I will respond to antagonistic behavior with emotion. I will attempt to quell that emotion. Just please don't say I don't want peace. I only react in the name of that desire. That's all I really want: Peace.
Thank you.
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BadBear dedicates some of his posts to defaming my name and person. That to me is outright trolling. As much as I hate him having some degree of control over my happiness, his speech pains me. It has been a huge mood killer.
I will not stand under that. I will not stand under a law that makes BadBear's verbal abuse acceptable.
I would prefer to be quiet but I am compelled to do otherwise. I only wish to attack the antagonistic actions of BadBear. Nothing more.
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Konichau: You should have redeemed that code while you had the chance.
Dumbest scammer ever.
Fooggyb: I sold it while I had the chance. I don't care whether the buyer redeems it or not. Where's my Bitcoin? |
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OK, if not crazy then just misguided. They already know in their hearts it's a conspiracy so when they work the data it ends up agreeing with what they already knew to be "true". Yes there are government cover-ups and fabrications but it is impossible to do something on this scale without someone talking. Someone involved will have an ego and will write a book or give an interview. It's like the moon landing conspiracy. If it really was faked why haven't they faked it again or faked landing on Mars? On 9/11 almost 3,000 people died. Someone would have a conscience and come forward. I'm not saying the government didn't use 9/11 for their own benefit (PATRIOT ACT, Iraq, etc...) but to say that this was an orchestrated event and no one noticed the preparations is silly. Hell, they may have known it was coming and let it happen but the controlled demolition story is beyond ridiculous. How do you drill holes and plant charges in one of the busiest office complexes in the world while it is operating and have nobody notice anything? Have you seen our government working? They couldn't pull off 9/11 even with the blessing of the American people.
Of course the US government didn't pull off 9/11. As for the Israeli Mossad and other independent intelligence agencies, it can be done through them. The CIA has overthrown governments. |
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This habit stems from my years on 4chan. I've managed to create pages of active topics and get away with it because I was Anonymous.
That's not the case here. I will really think before I create a new topic.
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I can't believe SL went that far. They seem pretty laissez-faire with an open exchange policy. I mean, you can get Bitcoins with Lindens.
Well, let's see what happens after this stage in our growth (Ponzis, HYIPs, etc.).
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just like you would write:
I want you to shave my squirrel for 10 dollars
not
I want you to shave my squirrel for 10 Dollars
yes?
The term "dollar" can be generic. It has been applied to many currencies. If I want to imply I was using US Dollars, I would say Dollars. I may be off-kilter. Let's see what others have to say. |
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Bitcoin is a proper noun like every other currency denomination. Why should it be lowercased?
Why should BTC be lowercase when traditional abbreviations are uppercase?
OP, are you from Europe or Russia?
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Regulation will come but it will likely come from individuals setting standards in acceptable trade etiquette for themselves and others. We won't need an authority to do this.
I've spoken against this from time-to-time but I now realize how immature that was of me.
Things take time to evolve and grow.
Individuals setting standards in acceptable trade etiquette for themselves and others == authority And then, if authority could be expressed as a mutually agreed upon change to the bitcoin protocol, why the hell not? A mutually agreed upon change to Bitcoin or anything else is no matter of authority but a mutual and voluntary exchange of desires. Authority implies power, coercion, something placed above others and their desires. That is not the case in a self-regulating society. In essence, I agree with you but not your terminology. When someone sets a price for themselves and their participation, that is far from implying power over other people unless you believe people belong to people; ergo, we're entitled to one another. It's just implying power over themselves. If you're advocating for authority over oneself, then I agree with you completely. |
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I don't think an individual so easily scammed is someone those of us doing well in this Bitcoin free market should be consulting on how best to proceed. Survival of the fittest is the name of the game here, and your mismanagement of your funds has proven you do not have what it takes. If wealth is the product of man’s capacity to think, allowing yourself to become victim to a scam and lose your wealth is evidence of a total lack of any such capacity. Our only choice is to use government regulation to protect you from your own lack of clarity.
Define fitness.. Because a.t.m. i see scammers being very very fit from a bitcoin aquisition perspective. Absolutely, playing fair is not a virtue in this sort of unregulated free market system. There are no negative consequences for playing unfairly. You need communal values and firm government oversight to make sure honest business is the more logical path. Bitcoin will not reach it's destiny as the currency of the future until we have those things. The only way to stop the scammers from having such a prominent place in the food chain is to start protecting the less fit scam victims like Atlas from themselves. You don't need government, you need a stick. And you need clear rules about when the stick is applied. And everyone should agree to this before being alowed to use bitcoin. Sounds like a governing body. Governing body != government. edit: and even then, it doesn't have to be a body as such. It could be intrinsic rules governing the network. I mean, there are at this time rules governing the network. Or do you think that bitcoins magically find their way from one account to another? It's all based on rules that govern the behavior of the network. The people who make the rules sound like a governing body. Yes, satoshi is regulating the crap out of us. Ever got angry because difficulty jumps? Thats Satoshis protocols governing bitcoin. Ever transfered bitcoin and happy that it actually arrived? Thats Satoshis protocols governing bitcoin. In the end SOMEONE needs to decide SOMETHING for there to be ANYTHING usefull. Maybe we need some democratic process to decide the further governing of bitcoin. It is badly needed and Satoshi won't help here. It's up to us. Mobodick really does have a point. It can be summed up as this: Anarchy doesn't mean no rules. It means no rulers. As always, there will be set etiquette in any society where people desire respect for themselves and their property. The form of governance that regulates and enforces this etiquette may vary. |
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Regulation will come but it will likely come from individuals setting standards in acceptable trade etiquette for themselves and others. We won't need an authority to do this.
I've spoken against this from time-to-time but I now realize how immature that was of me.
Things take time to evolve and grow.
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I am now confident he has no intention of paying me back.
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Also, lol:
During sections of the game (Deus Ex) where the New York skyline is visible in the background, the two towers of the World Trade Center are noticeably missing; the real towers were destroyed a year after the game was released. Harvey Smith has explained that due to texture memory limitations, the portion of the skyline with the twin towers exists in the game's data files but had to be left out of the final game, with the other half mirrored in place of it. According to Smith, during the game's development, the developers justified the lack of the towers by stating that terrorists had destroyed the World Trade Center earlier in the game's storyline.[37] Warren Spector however states "I wish we could say that we did it on purpose and we were sort of seeing the future. But it was actually just a mistake. The artist who did the skybox just uh, left them out. And it sort of worked out in an unfortunate way."
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Recent examples of high-rise fires include the 1991 One Meridian Plaza fire in Philadelphia, which raged for 18 hours and gutted 8 floors of the 38-floor building; 1 and the 1988 First Interstate Bank Building fire in Los Angeles, which burned out of control for 3-1/2 hours and gutted 4 floors of the 64 floor tower. Both of these fires were far more severe than any fires seen in Building 7, but those buildings did not collapse. The Los Angeles fire was described as producing "no damage to the main structural members". 2 http://www.wtc7.net/buildingfires.html
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when has there ever been a fire fueled by enough jet fuel for a flight from coast to coast? The fire was clearly out of control and cannot be compared to any other fire.
I'm done arguing about this. It has been discussed way too many times. I'm surprised there are people that still believe in the explosions theory lol. It's been 11 years and there are still people this ignorant.
Your belief in "fire that cannot be compared to any other" is purely religious. Ok, what would you compare it with then? Any other fire. Steel beams in all modern buildings are heavily covered in fireproof material. A steel beam in most research will not reach over 400 degrees Celsius with said coating even when the fire is over 1000 degrees. |
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Yes particles and other small flaming debris can collapse a steel structure. You guys are the nutty ones here. |
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