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8521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 24, 2014, 12:30:00 PM
Hahaha seriously what a joke.  I cant believe I have to even respond to this shit. But here goes because lets be real for a moment, they are lying their asses off to play the victim card here. If anyone wants the EVIDENCE feel free to PM me and Ill give it to you since they deleted my innocent posts when I was talking to a random in that thread that had nothing to do with the coin or "team" at all.  


Here is the facts.  I am in Australia like a lot of people right.  I keep tabs on a LOT of coins...ironic isn't it.  One person in that thread (notice how I didn't respond to the coin/direction at all but JUST ONE PERSONS POST) He mentioned he HAD A bitcoin ATM machine on the Gold Coast......all I pointed out to them verifiable facts that there was a massive police raid and a bitcoin owner got arrested and was mixed up in motor cycle gangs and drugs....now how am I fudding exactly ?

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/drugs-targeted-in-raids-across-brisbane/story-fnihsrf2-1227093535932

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/bitcoin-atm-owner-and-suspected-bikies-arrested-ra/2422968/

It s a bunch of bullshit if you ask me, and I would appreciate it if you got your facts correct before you cry wolf.  Its that attitude why I dont trust you qibucks.  

So in future if you are going to come in here and fud, dont you dare say I am solely an XC supporter when I am not, I am invested here and in a shit load of other coins..in fact I dont even give two shits about your coin anymore.  

Not everything is about you, maybe learn to read next time. You caused your own problem right now by not reading and understanding what was said.  Seriously.






If this was your post I do not see any FUD in it

Nah forget it, If I keep at it I will be brought down to their level and I am far above it.  Someone just has a obvious beef with XC about not being included on any official screenshots, its clear to see. So naturally people are a bit jumpy. Sad that it has got to that point for some.



Jacques, I respect your perspective here, and that you're clear about your position as someone who takes an interest in a lot of coins, not just XC.

When it comes to QiBuck's perspective I'm in the same boat, having had no time to read up on all this, so I respect their view too.

This is not a matter related to XC.

Talking it over here is liable to stir up more beef with QiBuck.

Can I ask that you and QiBuck state publicly that all further conflict has nothing to do with XC whatsoever?

Thanks

I have sent a polite PM To Jaques and on my part there is no personal beef whatsoever, nor with XC or any other coin. We just want to try to keep the thread polite and he is still welcome to post any time just within certain guidelines. All are welcome within reason and politeness. Also I will talk to my Team as well to keep polite at all times, thanks.
8522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 24, 2014, 09:01:52 AM
We would appreciate it if one of your supporters doesn't constantly hound our thread. I know XC is an anti fud coin like ours so we would appreciate it if you can give a message to your followers to stop hounding our thread with rude and impolite posts that will get deleted. This only gives a bad name that XC supporters are fudsters and it isn't nice for either of our coins. We are holders and supporters of XC and have never gone around spreading fud or nonsense on others threads. We expect XC supporters to abide by the XC CODE OF ETHICS as outlined in the XC OP thanks.

 The member in question is "Jacques de Molay"  Smiley
8523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SPUDS] PotatoCoin: 100% backed by real potatoes on: October 24, 2014, 07:50:55 AM
This is a really interesting concept a food backed commodity coin.  Smiley I will ask my Friend who has a mining pool to add it.
8524  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [WAC] Official WorldAidCoin Thread on: October 24, 2014, 07:42:23 AM
This looks like a promising newcomer.  Smiley
8525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Pre-ANN] [Vocal] ★ Vocal ~ Empowering Artists and Music Hub ~ on: October 24, 2014, 07:39:49 AM
I used to be a singer when I was younger so this is cool.  Smiley
8526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NOPE COIN X11 Exchanges POS 13% Is there anything you can do? NOPE! on: October 24, 2014, 07:32:51 AM
Very interesting coin to watch.  Smiley
8527  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Exclusive Coin - 4 Exchange,Market/Outlet LIVE, Multipool, PRICE GOING UP! on: October 24, 2014, 06:55:22 AM
I am really impressed with the great level of support for this coin. So glad we are holding for long term.
8528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ABC] Abundance - Just merged assests and resources with QIBUCK on: October 24, 2014, 06:50:20 AM
It's a great time to mine getting that big mining bonus.  Smiley
8529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - Updated! - Mandatory Update by 6/1/2014 on: October 24, 2014, 06:20:29 AM
I really want to know more about C.R.IS.PS as people like me don't have much in savings or a pension plan so I want to read up more about it tonight. Also a friend of mine and fellow Team Player in QBK has opened a pool for mining DNOTES too..So I am mining there from today as well.  www.btcpool.club This is the pool maybe you can add it to your OP?  Smiley.

Thank you qiwoman! Added to the OP.

Yeap the pool is paying me nicely and consistently and the fees are low too. Also we are currently mining DNOTES as a store of value backing our coin as well.  Smiley Where can I find the C.R.I.S.P.S Info? I want to do another blog post for DNOTES and was telling a few more peeps about it today potential investors. One is also making an asset backed coin and I told him back it up with DNOTES lol and another was asking for a stable coin on POLO trollbox. I told him the most stable coin I have seen since I joined Crypto is DNOTES. No doubt about that. Now that I moved country and want to start accumulating some good coins again, DNOTES is my long time favorite for long term and as a pension - asset coin. For non good day traders especially DNOTES is the best investment by far.

Thanks for your confidence in DNotes. Coming from someone like you who have known and supported DNotes from day one is quite meaningful. Most of all, you are one of the nicest persons in our industry, trying to give many of our industry peers a fair chance to be successful. I respect that very much.

DNotes shares that philosophy in someway. We are committed to give as many people as possible a chance to share the success of DNotes, including many who are less fortunate financially. We have been working hard on CR.I.S.Ps. and DNotesVault with a plan to launch them early next month with a full press release. CR.I.S.P. for Kids has been tested on a small scale, and will be the first family of CR.I.S.Ps. to be officially announced. The following post is our 1st draft on CR.I.S.P. for Kids as it appears on DNotesVault.



WOW this is great news. My KID is now 19 a adult so is it too late for him? Thank you also for the news about C.RI.S.P.S ..and my mining continues.. I tell peeps about DNOTES in the trollbox on POLO too, strange that many haven't seen it's merits yet ..so always good to spread the word out. Also what will the Vault be about and what will it offer? I am interested in that too. Is it like a place we store the coins so they don't get spent?
8530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold on: October 24, 2014, 05:39:34 AM
We have had lengthy discussions with our Team on the best way forward. Crypto Currency is an experience and an experiment and we evolve along with our coins. We see what works and what doesn't and tweak accordingly to try to make things better. We do have some tech improvements overdue for our wallet and our DEV has promised to get them done once he finishes another important project he is involved in soon.

Secondly we have read and taken many comments into account but yes as most of you have stated, QBK Coin primarily is aimed at being a store of wealth at this point then once that is firmly established we will go more into the Consumer side of the Coin. There are many people that can't and don't trade and just want to put their money somewhere to earn and generate some revenues, like you would in a savings account or bank. What we saw in the last cash out/ massive dump is NOT what we envisaged for the Coin. So for this reason we have come to a conclusion that those who are interested in a store of wealth coin will remain, those who want a quick pump and dump can probably find a plethora of coins to play with.

Our aim primarily is a long term holder market who want to earn consistent revenues on a yearly basis and who can enjoy a slow appreciation of the value of the coin, plus the small POS, all making it an all rounder profitable coin. Yes we want some room for trading also that is why there will be some leeway in terms of bagholders being able to sell their POS coins from their bagholder accounts and also they can buy more coins up to keep on POLO or any other exchanges we may get in the foreseeable future. We will also be setting up our forum this month where we will host many contest's, giveaways, incentives etc.

 We have also come up with the best solution that A) Frees up a lot of our time so we can really focus on what we need to do best - generating income and B) Decreases the monthly dumping bonanza. Later today we will reveal the new BAGHOLDER TERMS. Also the term proof of baghold is what makes our coin unique and that is our contribution to Crypto that most of our Supporters don't want changed.  Smiley.
8531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 23, 2014, 01:28:32 PM
How does ROI enter into this if funds are gathered in staggered offerings or all at once.  It doesn't.  Hmm actually wait it just might.  Let's examine a possibility.

500,000 shares offered initially to start development.  All coins sell out as the lower risk of fraud make people feel it unlikely that smaller amount of funds will be stolen or sold without product development.

Development starts
Regular updates done
First operational product with most basic feature(s) working

Market Exchange price has increased do to investor confidence in development by 20%

Stage 2 fund raising - 1,000,000 shares sold at market value (or slightly less) of .0003

Development continues
Features added and tested successfully
Concerted ad campaign

Market Exchange price has increased 15% due to continued confidence and new investor influx.

Stage 3 fund raising - 2,000,000 shares sold at market value of .000345


Ect... until 10,000,000 are sold.



Not only does this method allow a larger investment base over time it generates more income as the price rises due to successful development.  It also instills great confidence not only in initial investors but any future investors will see the road travelled so far and know their funds are going to a stable and established project.  Doing it all in one shot will turn a lot of people off and will hurt investment funds as it was stated that once the ITO is over no new shares will ever be created.  Trying to collect everything up front with no product will net you less funds than staggered fund raising.

You will sell less shares(likely at a lesser price as well)
You will not be able to offer shares again down the road(as per your plans)




____________

"the higher the risk the higher the possible roi or loss."


the higher the risk the higher the possible roi or loss. some are willing to take the risk some don't . i don't get the problem since nobody is forced to invest into the blocknet or anything else here. don't you guys get how investing works. check the variables and decide yes or no. whats all the bitching about. not only with blocknet. 50% of this forum are complaining about ito policies or wrong strategies like they should have any fucking say in it. just don't throw your money at it and walk. its that simple. If you think you can do it better. nobody is holding you back either.


I don't see that as any sort of compromise.  They still have all the money up front and all we have is hope for a product.  No contractual obligations... Nothing.

I'm sorry but I don't see any rational explanation for requiring all the money up front instead of staged investment phases.  It instills faith in investors both that development will continue, and that no one is likely to run off with 2500 BTC on the community.  It's not just 2500 BTC either.  If something did happen and funds disappeared all or in part, then XC would likely completely collapse as a result costing XC investors of the coin itself everything.  Not to mention all participating coins likely being crippled or dead as well.  There is a lot more at stake than just the share funds here.

I think it is irrational that fundraising wouldn't be done in the most trustworthy and confidence building way possible, and I'm sorry but "pony up all the cash first" doesn't cut it on a scale of this value.

I and anyone can choose to invest or not, but before you argue as an apologist for their proposed fund raising plan think about the stakes not only for the raised funds but for all the coins involved and all the people who have money invested in them.  Then think about the crypto community in general.  There is enough at stake here that these devs can do a little extra work and wait a little extra time to rake in 10,000,000 shares worth of coins.

It boggles my mind that people wouldn't want their investment risk to be minimized in this way.

_______

"TheGer, I've read your posts regarding the 2500 BTC fund and understand where you're coming from. However, they've already stated that they're looking into the possibility of only releasing the funds intermittently based on certain milestones being accomplished. This would be a good compromise imo."




There was a 50k block transferred to Bittrex a cpl days ago.  You can plainly see 1-2k coins being placed for sale over and over once they are sold the cycle repeats.  Once this guy dumps all his coins it will stabilize.  If he's dumping to hurt the coin then he must be butthurt that it is not staying down very long.  It always manages to push itself back up to between 90-100k before he tries it again.

We may see this continue for a day or 2 I haven't been keeping track of how many thousands of coins are being sold.  There appear to be more than enough willing buyers though so that bodes well.

*** On a side not to Blocknet why don't you poll the community and see what the best method they think is for fundraising(ie. what will instill the best confidence among investors thus bringing in the most funds).

Options could be posted in this thread and then polled(using website poll feature) after a day or 2 of ideas being fronted.





i think 100k now will be psichological line.. hope to see some big rise on 29th of october

Agree with your sentiments regarding the price action the last few days. Every time the price looks to be heading towards 0.001 another 1-3k is added to the sell wall. No one can say what his/her motive is, could just be part of their exit strategy but eventually they'll run out. Dan has been over delivering the past few days steadily improving XChat with each and every update. This, combined with the soon to be released mobile wallet, should return a lot investor confidence back in Dan's commitment to the project (this is imo opinion why the price has dropped so much). Hopefully that will see XC rise to the pre-Blocknet announcement price of .0013 -.0015. FWIW I've been pretty much wrong with all my other predictions! Grin

Also I believe there is a huge lack of new investors coming aboard. Very low buy support and a couple whales dumping are major factor in this price drop imo. Hopefully the upcoming PR to go along with the new mobile wallet release will attract some new investors.

TheGer, I've read your posts regarding the 2500 BTC fund and understand where you're coming from. However, they've already stated that they're looking into the possibility of only releasing the funds intermittently based on certain milestones being accomplished. This would be a good compromise imo.



I like the idea of rounds of investment gives later birds a chance to get in as well.
8532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold on: October 23, 2014, 11:33:33 AM
I think it's overflow from all the trollers piling into the XC threads due to Blocknet.  They must not own any QBK or they would feel like idiots trolling this coin.


Also a note to FUDDERS appearing from the XC Thread please note we delete all your FUD posts as this is a self moderated thread so please waste your time elsewhere thanks. We own XC and we are working with XC so please back off our thread, we don't fud your coin! Sorry if I don't sound too polite but enough is enough.

He was one of the old hardcore fudsters used to come in our thread all the time and pound it but that era is over now. Also changes are coming to QBK to make it even more proof of baghold rather than proof of dump. Stay tuned.
8533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold on: October 23, 2014, 08:22:50 AM
Also a note to FUDDERS appearing from the XC Thread please note we delete all your FUD posts as this is a self moderated thread so please waste your time elsewhere thanks. We own XC and we are working with XC so please back off our thread, we don't fud your coin! Sorry if I don't sound too polite but enough is enough.
8534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold on: October 23, 2014, 08:01:30 AM
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Will do my Friends..
8535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - Updated! - Mandatory Update by 6/1/2014 on: October 23, 2014, 07:10:33 AM
I really want to know more about C.R.IS.PS as people like me don't have much in savings or a pension plan so I want to read up more about it tonight. Also a friend of mine and fellow Team Player in QBK has opened a pool for mining DNOTES too..So I am mining there from today as well.  www.btcpool.club This is the pool maybe you can add it to your OP?  Smiley.

Thank you qiwoman! Added to the OP.

Yeap the pool is paying me nicely and consistently and the fees are low too. Also we are currently mining DNOTES as a store of value backing our coin as well.  Smiley Where can I find the C.R.I.S.P.S Info? I want to do another blog post for DNOTES and was telling a few more peeps about it today potential investors. One is also making an asset backed coin and I told him back it up with DNOTES lol and another was asking for a stable coin on POLO trollbox. I told him the most stable coin I have seen since I joined Crypto is DNOTES. No doubt about that. Now that I moved country and want to start accumulating some good coins again, DNOTES is my long time favorite for long term and as a pension - asset coin. For non good day traders especially DNOTES is the best investment by far.
8536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: The Club!! on: October 23, 2014, 06:55:37 AM
This pool is mining and paying fast boom boom..   Smiley
8537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: The Pool on: October 22, 2014, 01:43:08 PM
This is cool..I am in and wanna mine DNOTES.. I will tell our friends.. Smiley
8538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOTE]DNotes - Updated! - Mandatory Update by 6/1/2014 on: October 22, 2014, 11:30:20 AM
I really want to know more about C.R.IS.PS as people like me don't have much in savings or a pension plan so I want to read up more about it tonight. Also a friend of mine and fellow Team Player in QBK has opened a pool for mining DNOTES too..So I am mining there from today as well.  www.btcpool.club This is the pool maybe you can add it to your OP?  Smiley.
8539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POS/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold on: October 21, 2014, 05:46:11 PM
Any chance we can get the max vardiff for scrypt on the multipool raised? Maybe to 4096 instead of 1024?

Will ask our Mining Expert later when he comes online.  Smiley

I have passed this question on..
Also latest blog post and ocne the UCI COIN crowdsale opens there will be a special promo for our QBK Friends..Enjoy.  Smiley

http://bitbillions.net/2014/10/21/altcoin-review-uci-coin-development-in-crowdfunding-and-asset-backed/

Awesome Blog post! Can't wait for UCI and QBK to shine  Smiley

Edit: Hello everyone. I have been very busy as well. So far we have purchased two Founder positions at QBK and 3 Founder positions at UCI. Today I received this email from DC shares:

I have some great news! The launch of our first Bitcoin Kiosk was a great success.  The machine dispensed the first Diamond Circle Bitcoin Debit Card containing $20.00 of Bitcoins on the 15th of October at 3:30pm paid for with a Visa Card at The Bluff Café, Burleigh Heads, Queensland, Australia.

 A long queue formed including a local politician, representatives from the local universities, prospective operators, distributors, shareholders, TV and news media and members of the chamber of commerce.

 Now that the cards are available which protect and secure customer's Bitcoins, merchants in the area are asking about how customers can spend their Bitcoin in their stores and not just online via web sites.

 We've begun development of our Mobile Phone application for Android which replaces bank EFTPOS devices.  It will allow instant goods purchases and refunds, cash out for Bitcoin, card balance enquiry, and buy/sell Bitcoins.  New customers with cards ordered online or purchased at retailers,activate their cards with the new app also, keeping their Bitcoins safe from hackers.

 Our Pre-IPO continues to gather momentum.  We now have over 70 shareholders from around the world.  We are still anticipating listing on the Australian Small Scale Offer Board to raise $1.5M in November, with the first round opening at 5 cents per share.  In the interim, we are offering new and existing shareholders a substantial discount to the ask price.

 Thanks to all those who attended the event.

 Kind regards,



I'm just so glad that QBK promotions lead me to a solid portfolio. I'm here for the long run!

Take care,

Getmesome


That's wonderful news..Congratulations..Also once DC sends an ATM machine to the U.K QBK will start earning on those bitcoin atm shares too.
8540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Exclusive Coin - x11, 4 Exchanges, Market/Outlet LIVE, Multipool UP! on: October 21, 2014, 04:13:58 PM
remember about community/faucet/action where you can get some EXCL + promote this to the masses aka WIN-WIN! http://www.cryptotycoons.com/exclusivecoin/index.php
Guys from cryptotycoons made this specially for us, show tchem love by using this system - its really smart and cool!

Other than that, seems community awaken and we may rich 5k satoshis like ive predicted when starting this coin [followers of EXCL from the launch remember that was my minimal targer price always].






REMEMER TO USE OUR MULTIPOOL - MINE MOST PROFITABLE COINS, GET PAID IN EXCL - NO REGISTRATION NEEDED

http://thepool.pw/EXCL/



This is excellent I will pass it onto my Team and tweeting too..
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