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8581  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The danger of the cyptocurrencies on: February 16, 2017, 03:57:05 PM
The fact that cryptocurrency is made in a computer and used in the internet gives it a big a danger to itself. It is very prone to hackers. And no one can say how long can it last over the internet. Because cryptos are also money some people are still having doubt to invest and use it because it will be easy for someone to steal it. And the transaction made by crytos are anonymous.
The same can be said about paypal, credit cards, gift cards and any medium we could use to pay online, the only problem is you cannot get your money back with bitcoin since you cannot chargeback transactions like with paypal, that is a characteristic of bitcoin I love, but that helps hackers and scammers to get away with their crimes.
In our would it stays less and less chances for privacy. Crypto currency have that kind of danger when it may be stolen and you will not find any step of the thief. But professional hackers can take away all the info about you and your wallets easy.

I would say that this is the blessing and curse for bitcoin.
Many people like bitcoin because of anonymity.
We don't like idea to pay a lot of taxes to our government, for every income we have, online or offline.
Until now, our governments could see or find everything, all our financial transactions, but with bitcoin we are finally free, and can earn without need to report and pay taxes.
But, in other hand, if anybody steal our bitcoin funds, we can't report this person or start any legal action.
It seems that we can't have everything.

8582  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you still use Bitcoin if price would be stable for years? on: February 16, 2017, 03:48:58 PM
We are all different and we also have many reasons to use bitcoin.
Some people buying bitcoin with hope to see price increase, in order to earn some quick profit.
Some people need bitcoin for trade, gambling or investments.
Others will use bitcoin in order to buy digital staff online, for example.
For some of us, the most important thing regarding bitcoin is anonymity and safety.
For others is possibility to earn some good money.
So, personally, I will still use bitcoin even if price would be stable for years
I don't like very strict rules from my local tax office and government regarding online income, so because of this I like bitcoin a lot Smiley

8583  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What is real freedom in your view? Are you getting it? on: February 14, 2017, 05:23:28 PM
Real freedom is something quite wicked. As you may see, the freedom we are allowed is limited, as we cannot trespass on other's freedoms, rights and lives. Real freedom would consist of no rules or morals, resulting in anarchy. That's why humans must always be chained down at some extent for their own safety and even the safety of their surroundings.

True people, free of sin, evil and hatred, are completely free.
They found their freedom in God's hands and love.
It's absolute freedom.
People who are slaves of sin are not free, of course.
They are slaves of sin and such people is really difficult to control.
They fight only for their individual, selfish freedom and don't care about others.
In such world there is no real, absolute freedom, only chaos and living hell.


8584  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Isn't Islam a religion of hate and violence, not peace and love? on: February 14, 2017, 05:17:50 PM
Like Christianity, Jeudaism and most other major religions, Islam is founded on principles of violence (and more so, intolerance).  However this should not be used to attack the people who follow the religion.  The vast majority of Muslims in the West are tolerant people and if you dislike religious people based on just one part of their character you ignore the rest of their lives.

When people go and protest against Islam or against Muslims they are harbouring a battle because innocent people, rightly, feel personally attacked.  This creates a cycle of hatred which potentially results in violence and more hatred between two sides who both believe they have a moral high ground when neither ever did.

I don't agree with you.
If you read bible, specially New Testament, you will see that Jesus talked about peace, love, forgiveness etc.
In Quran, Mohamed talked also about love and peace and Jihad originally didn't mean war against others but fight to become better believer and better person.
Unfortunately, most believers don't read holy books and don't understand their own religion.
Some priests manipulate with people and share the message of fear and hate instead of peace, love and forgiveness.
So, true Islam and true Christianity don't talk about hate and violence.

8585  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should governments allow people to pay their taxes in Bitcoin BTC? on: February 14, 2017, 05:08:32 PM
Such idea is not realistic for now.
First, bitcoin is not recognized yet as real currency or financial assets in the most countries in the world.
So, for example, I can't even report earning in bitcoin to the tax office.
Only when I exchange my bitcoin funds to my local currency, I can report it to my local tax office.
In my country, during tourist season, for example, merchants can accept also foreign currencies but still, on the end of day, they have to exchange such funds to local currency.
So, even in such case, there is no way to report tax in foreign currencies.
In bitcoin? I don't see how is possible.

8586  Other / Off-topic / Re: How are you earning BTC? on: February 14, 2017, 05:00:50 PM
Most of my earnings are coming from trading. I get a little from the signature campaign, but you can't get much that way. Even trading requiresa lot of patients and it is best to start with a larger amount to trade with which is difficult to do.
I think you can get a lot from a campaign. If you disagree then you haven't really tried things like faucets, giveaways and micro tasks. There are some very good campaigns on the forum, some of them pay $50 a week in for just a few posts and you don't need special skills to earn it.

I'm sure you can get more from trading, but to people with little money trading is a not a good option.
I think it is a matter of perspective, if you were earning some bitcoin through faucets and giveaways then earning from signatures is a huge step forward, but if you are a trader and you see the amount you an earn through signature campaigns you may think the amount is low.
Its just a commonsense on which way we would go and as a human its part of our nature to always seek or go to those  things that we could able to earn more higher and we would not think to go back because we already know that we could able to earn small amounts compared on the recent ones.
I agree , Its just that like when you are a newbie you learn how to use faucet that produce to low amount of bitcoin the after a month you have learned signature campaign , You realize that signature campaign payments is too high than faucet , it is a common sense that you will not comeback to faucet and you will just focus on using signature campaign.

Yes, but signature campaigns are not the end of personal growth.
After faucets and signature campaigns, next step should be to learn some skills like programming, and earn bitcoin in such way.
Other ways can be start own bitcoin business, trade, invest in HYIP etc.
There are many ways to earn bitcoin, so use any way you can.
My ways to earn bitcoin are sig. campaign and online businesses.
8587  Other / Politics & Society / Re: After death on: February 12, 2017, 12:26:27 PM
After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

And your proof of this is what?

The Holy Bible. You will not have much problems searching for the exact pages on the Internet.

Did you guys know that The Holy Bible is is 80% cases reason why people decided to become atheists? There are many ways that Bible can be understood, and people often tend to understand it wrong. Too many people have dont some terrible things because of Bible, so live that book aside. Live life by moral rules, and everyone will be happy...

If you like this or not, the Holy Bible is at the root of our conception of what is good and what is not. The 10 Commandments are at the root of the morality.
Name me one person who keeps all the 10 commandments. There is no such. Additionally, good intentions pave the road to hell. Religion under the guise of morality making a black case and it is not uncommon! Religion is a lie.

I can name a few: Jesus, Francis of Assisi, Mother Theresa etc. Smiley
If you can't keep 10 commandments, it doesn't mean that such commandments are unrealistic and out of reach for us.
In fact, 10 commandments are root of today's morality and law in our societies.
Religion talks about fundamental issue like origin of the universe, root of sin, salvation, absolute moral standards etc.
Philosophers and scientists have thousands of ideas on these issues but no so much concrete answers, which they can prove as true.
So, I still prefer religious truth as unchanging and absolute.
Human truth is changeable and relative and it's fact.
 
8588  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are terrorists only muslim in religion? on: February 12, 2017, 12:18:45 PM
Most of the terrorists i have seen are Moslems and they all scream Allahu Akbar before they commit their heinous and despicable deeds.
I believe that when the terrorists shout Allahu Akbar it only confirms the fact that the crime they pushed religion. It seems to me that countries in which Muslims commit acts of terrorism should ban Islam in their territories.

Anybody can shout Allahu Akbar, not only Muslims. Also, many people can shout ''Jesus Christ'' but it doesn't mean they are Christians.
Do you really believe that if one Muslim commit crime, that all Muslims should be persecuted and Islam banned as religion?
I hope that you don't think in this way.
If we try to deal with Muslim in this way, we will create many more problems and conflicts and will not solve this situation.
Only possible way is to work with local Muslim community and help them to integrate in the society.



8589  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Money laundering via BTC on: February 12, 2017, 11:51:44 AM
Money laundering is very sensitive issue now in many countries.
For example, in my country since the beginning of this year, banks have to send info about all bank transactions of their clients to tax office.
If tax office find anything suspicious, they will call bank account owner and ask him/her to prove source of income.
If person can't, he/she will be punished by the law.
So, in our local bitcoin community is a lot confusion and fear how to explain and report income from bitcoin.

8590  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin is the new era of currency? on: February 12, 2017, 11:46:48 AM
Yes, I think so.
We have to be aware that bitcoin probably will never be accepted by financial institutions, banks, governments etc.
Why?
Simple because they can't control bitcoin, its value, currency exchange, manipulate in Forex...
So, we will  continue to receive a salary in hard currency, pay off loans etc.
So, I feel that bitcoin may replace paypal and become new online payment standard but bitcoin will mostly stay in online world, I think.
8591  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is there truest religion? on: February 11, 2017, 04:38:38 PM
Actually, all religions are good, there is no religion that teaches ugliness, no religion has ordered people to do evil. No religion says that killing human beings is good, there is no religion that says that stealing is good. If there are people who misbehave, blame the person, not religion. Because it was purely human error of his wrong in applying what is in his religion.
People are constantly doing evil. This means that there is no God and all religions are lying. For me true religion is atheism. It is human nature to question everything, and if there is no answer to these questions cannot be and speeches about faith.
I agree with your statement but respect your opinion, as a believer in Him and a person with Religion I think that it is not the religion that makes the person evil. Remember, we have freedom to choose, we have a choice if we believe in HIM, follow what the Religion says or what. We are not perfect but I know all person knows what is right and wrong, if you choose not to believe then it is your choice but doesn't mean it is because there is no God.

We can't claim that any religion, any group of people, any race or nation is evil.
It depends on the character of each individual person, and his/her personal choices, what they will do on the end, good or evil.
Religion can only offer guidance to the people, how to be moral and good people, how to find God etc. but can't change people, their hearths.
It's impossible.
We all have free will and every day we are making out own decisions in life, good or bad.
Religion is more true if is closer to God's hearth, in my opinion.
Who can judge about it?
Only God.
8592  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why God exists in all people mind? on: February 11, 2017, 04:18:37 PM
Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind? Embarrassed

You have the right to believe in whatever you believe in and you also possess the right not to believe in anything at all. Its your right and your conviction. For those that believes including myself have a sense of feelings that things dont just happen by default without the hand of God like getting unmerited favor, saving from unnecessary attacks, praying for a particular thing and even getting response which means someone is listening and answering that prayer and that person is no other than God.

There is the difference.... Atheists rely on proof... those who believe in religion speak about truth without proof.
True. So you mean you don't also believe in air because you don't see air?
Just a challenge for those who doesn't believe in HIM to talk to them and to search more about them, Read bible especially the book of Genesis (the creation ) and the Revelation then come back here if you don't still believe in Him.

When you talk about science and proofs, please be aware that you can research just created, visible world, after the beginning of the universe.
Scientists can't research beyond time and space, before creation of all universe.
So, logical conclusion is that scientists can't prove God.
God is spiritual being, and we can see or feel him only with our spiritual body, spiritual eyes or hearth.
8593  Other / Archival / Re: Earning "free" bitcoins on: February 11, 2017, 04:10:27 PM


People who are aware about the other ways of earning bitcoins will never waste their time on faucets sites instead they will find many other productive ways of earning bitcoins and nowadays its really not worth to give your time in claiming few santoshis there are many other better and good ways to earn bitcoins.
I fully agree with you because wasting your time on just clicking on those faucets is not really worth for out time infact there are lots of ways on how to earn decent amount of bitcoin avoiding those time consuming faucets.Earning free bitcoin is possible its either on giveaways or other promotions that have held on newly launched website or coins.


I agree that faucets are wasting of time and energy Smiley
In fact, I think that only website owner earn on such sites.
But, at least such sites can only take your time, not money.
In HYIP programs or trading sites, you can loose not just time but also serious money and I don't recommend it.
The best way to earn ''free'' bitcoin is to do something you like and will do any way, like writing posts on the forum and receive some reward for it through signature campaigns, for example.
The best ways to earn bitcoins, however, are not free, of course.


8594  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: ►►► NOVI 2-WAY BITCOIN ATM U ZAGREBU! 24h SUPPORT! Caffe Bar Agram! (Vrbik) ►►► on: February 11, 2017, 03:40:22 PM
Evo, nakon nekog vremena provedenog na odrzavanje i komunikaciju sa proizvodacem sve je u funkciji, i buy i sell, tako da nas dođite posjetiti, Bitcoin odnosno Kune se isplacuju trenutacno, a ne nakon 1-2-3-6 confirmationa Smiley

Super, to su dobre vijesti!
Za zadnje 2 transakcije sam potvrdu čekao 24 sata i izgubio poprilično živaca Smiley
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8595  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What is real freedom in your view? Are you getting it? on: February 09, 2017, 03:59:28 PM
That is the issue even when you think you are free and can enjoy life there is someone always out there with their own definition of right or wrong, thus freedom is a hopeless cause.



If we think that people decide about everything than you are right, there is no absolute freedom but only relative and depends on the people and age.
In my opinion, we are created beings and therefore we have certain purpose given by our creator, God.
True freedom we can find only if we fulfill our purpose.
If not, we are not free at all but slaves (of the sin).
Only God can give absolute freedom.


8596  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who will win WW3? on: February 09, 2017, 03:51:56 PM
Long time ago I heard the best answer to this question.
We don't know who will win WW3 but we know how we will fight in WW4. With stones and sticks.
So, you better hope that WW3 will never happen or we will see the end of our civilization.
Nobody can win WW3.
8597  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is there a chance Satoshi is dead? Car accident, heart failure, ect on: February 09, 2017, 03:46:39 PM
He may be death or alive.
Satoshi can be organization and live forever.
Who cares, any way?
Enjoy the ride with bitcoin and don't spend time on staff you can't know. Smiley
8598  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin for the rich, not the poor - We are talking about the miners fees on: February 09, 2017, 03:44:56 PM
If someone will have bitcoin then he will not be poor as he will earn a good income with bitcoin and will be able to pay the fees of transaction the same as other rich people pay. I myself now earn a good income from bitcoin and now I am not caring for the higher fees of bitcoin transaction etc. So bitcoin is same for everyone.

It's ideal scenario but not for everyone.
Some people will just try to collect some free btc through faucets, some games etc.
So, for them, any fee will create problem.
It seems that fees increasing and confirmation period is longer day by day and I don't like it.
8599  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Payeer-verifikacija?Kartica?Iskustva? on: February 09, 2017, 03:37:01 PM
Pozdrav svima
  zanima me da li netko ima payeer mastercard. Registrirao sam se nedavno tamo i planirao sam sva sredstva prebaciti na jednu hrpu. Račun nisam još verificirao, jer nevolim baš ostavljati dokumente po netu (dovoljno što sam ostavio na coinbase i xapo), a čitao sam da imaju dobre recenzije i da su dosta pozdani, al opet i na plotu svašta piše. Za verifikaciju se moram uslikati, s dokumentima i brojem računa, jel taj papir moram držati ispred sebe kao u zatvoru ili može biti i negdje sastrane?
Za karticu sam vidio da košta 9.95$ da ju pošalju, ali ne razumijem da li će mi računati svako podizanje 2.5% ili kao da sam u inozemstvu 3.5% pošto nedižem $ i € već kune. I što je bolje odabrati za karticu dolar ili euro?
Ako neko koristi već tu master karticu jel može napisati koliko je zadovoljan s njom i da li ima još kakve dodatne troškove tipa članarina ili slično.

Moram osobno priznati da sa Payeer supportom i servicom  nemam baš dobra iskustva.
Uzelo mi je puno truda i muke da napravim business verifikaciju svog računa, odgovori su im dosta kasnili, a na neke upite mi nikad nisu ni odgovorili.
Na kraju sam odustao od njih, i okrenuo se pouzdanijim i kvalitetnijim pp, kao što su Payza, sTP ili PM.
Moj ti je savjet, traži MC preko ovih drugih pp, ne preko Payeera.
8600  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are terrorists only muslim in religion? on: February 07, 2017, 04:55:43 PM
Right now it seems so but such conclusion is wrong.
First, even if they claim so, terrorist are not Muslim, they are only terrorists.
Second, we had many terrorists in the past. Do you remember IRA, for example?
Or leftists terrorist groups in Germany and Italy around 1968?
There are many such examples in the history of humankind, in all parts of the world.
So, simple speaking, terrorists are not only Muslims.
You are not right. All terrorist organizations you listed had their own ideas. They don't commit terrorist acts just for no reason. Muslims commit terrorist acts simply out of hatred for the Gentiles.

We are talking about different things here.
Topic is about religion and you are talking about ideas.
Yes, I agree that all this terrorists groups had their own (wrong) ideas but we can't call it religion.
Religion, by definition, seek how to unite man and God.
Terrorist groups have very different goals.
They only agenda is killing, destruction and chaos.

The fact of the matter is that Islam does not accept the existence of other religions. For them, the infidels are not people and therefore there is a call to struggle and subjugation of dissenters.

The fact of the matter is that Quran, their holy book, talks about Jesus, Moses, Mary, Abram and highly respect them.
For them, Jesus is also God's prophet.
In fact, based on it, we can have that Jews, Christians and Muslims have the same origin (from Abram, father of faith).
So, true Muslim believers respect Christians because their prophet Mohamed respected Jesus as well. 


As far as I know, Judas was a prophet betrayed God and therefore, Christians don't particularly respect Judaism. Muslims do not respect anybody. Islam is the most aggressive religion.

Judas was disciple of Jesus, not prophet.
Christian didn't like Jews because, in their opinion, Jews killed their savior, Messiah, Jesus Christ.
Many Muslims respect Christians and vice versa and even Quran respect Holy Mary and Jesus a lot.
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