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861  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: July 26, 2017, 09:12:18 AM
I think gambling and trading are two different activities. Gambling is the activity of drawing fate like picking dice, picking numbers and then hoping that numbers will appear, the decision is complete when the dice is thrown, the end result we never know and can not control it. While trading is a decision making activity involving many aspects ranging from market research and analysis, financial management and risk management to psychology management to recognizing market psychology as well as the ability to control ones own emotions.
They are really different since they do have different kind of way on making money. Trading does need knowledge and skills and gambling do really need luck in able to make money and the time you are considering trading as a gambling is that you do make trades without any proper knowledge because you are just like throwing up your money into the oblivion.
Yes, when you do the trade without having proper knowledge about trading then we can consider trading is like gambling. But no body will try trading without having basic knowledge. It needs a lot of patience and skills to make money. Gambling is just a game, and without skills also we can play and make money if we just have luck with us.
people keep telling the similar point here about trading and gambling . both are different . mostly says that gambling trading aren't profitable in the long run , but trading have a better chance , they said .... and i think the same too that trading profitable for few people / groups only . while gambling are completely aren't profitable you shouldn't ever try if you can't be responsible .
actually they are not the same because trading is profitable and gambling is unknown.it is called unknown because we dont know  what would happen during gambling.but for me i believe that gambling is not profitable because when the gambler win in a gamble they did not use the money they have won  to buy important things for there daily life of living such as food clothing etc.  in fact they reserve it for the next time of gambling.that was a reality.i tell you  frankly trading is better than gambling.
862  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 25, 2017, 07:48:32 PM
Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?
They're both good and better. You cannot have your own money if you don't invest into something or if you don't  have a job.
But by investing you could had a big chance to have a lots of money.

yes i agree because saving is good and  also investing is good they are both good to  practice.but for me it is better to invest.because through investing we can have a chance to double our income and gain more profit .the big different of the two is that.saving doesnt double the amount you save.while in investing we can expect ang  extra income.
863  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitDice - Join The ICO Of The Biggest Crowdfunded Casino With 2300Ƀ PROFIT on: July 25, 2017, 11:58:47 AM
I think of participating in this a little bit. I also invested on MonstetByte. This project attracts me more than Betking. I cannot explain the reason but it is more sincere to me.
yes i agree on you.we are almost the same i currently ivested in another project but .for me this is a amazing project it is simple quite amazing.theres a kind of possitive force that bring me here.i will make fucos in it.
864  Other / Off-topic / Re: Young people should go all in on bitcoin on: July 25, 2017, 11:32:49 AM
Young people are not that fully minded to think about trading and investment if there going to test that maybe gambing will there direction those minds all their know is to play and play they think gambling is the right way to start earning money from bitcoin until it will destyor their life.

But i think if young people are taught properly the Do and dont of Bitcoin, they can start gathering bitcoin at an early age , making it easy for them to meet thier expenses  when they grow up as the price of bitcoin will be much more it is now.
Yes, however young people were taught the interest drives them to the right path. Because there are people who are technically skilled but doesn't have interest on knowing about these innovations. At the same time there are people who lack in knowledge, but at some point they believe and invest and gets profitted. One such incident is the high school student becoming milionaire just because of investing into bitcoin.
yes i agree and i do believe that the rigth time to know about bitcoin is now.because as what we have observe 4 years ago till now the bitcoin price is rising.in my part if i start knowing it on that time arround.i think at this point of time i am already a legendary and i already know all about the world of cryptocurrencies.but young people now a days is really diff. they always wanted to do things that has no value at all.it is all because they are not really interested and the laziness takes place on thier way of understanding on it that was the reality.i think almost 95% out of 100 young people did not interested on bitcoin.
865  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin a good way to invest your money ? on: July 24, 2017, 11:25:30 AM
I heard that bitcoin is a good investment for making a huge profit in the future , is that right ? Because i want to buy some bitcoin in these days .

Yes it is. Depends in the performance of bitcoin in market. When the demand of bitcoin rises the price will also seek high. So now it's growing everyday and month, many company used bitcoin for advertising and also investments due to the fact that bitcoin has fast transaction and safe to use.
Yes , but you need to study some feautures of and and how to keep your bitcoins in a safe storage .Using it in a conpany is a big help for them i am actually planning to present to some of the company what butcoins is that can be applied as payment and payout system for them.
yes i agree investing in bitcoin is   good it has a great capacity to gain more profit in terms of investing.i think we only need to buy it in a  low price and sell it if the price is rise.for me the best strategy in order us  to be more profitable in the near future is to hold bitcoin rigth now  and sell it in the rigth time.
866  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: July 18, 2017, 10:20:06 AM
Always start with a small amount of capital.

If you used to gamble with bigger amount of capital when you gamble, greed will start to come out if you are holding bigger amount.

But if you'll maintain to hold smaller value of capital, you're good.
I can assure you it really doesn't matter if you start with low or high bankroll. If you are greedy, even if you start with small bankroll and win you will continue to gamble and you will try to win more money.
In your opinion, how small that bankroll has to be and how small your win has to be?
Some people have a mindset that if you have a large bankroll, it would lead to a larger profit. It would but the risk that you are taking is harder and more harder to accept if you failed, it's just that you are trying to make something out of nothing and you just have to do it or you shouldn't have deposited it in the first place. You will never be satisfied if you kept thinking like that, you should set goals and when you hit that goal or near to that goal, stop. It's better to walk away with something rather than nothing and be full of regret.
You're right about that and I think preventions is better than addiction, so having no satisfaction over the activities on gambling that yoh're involved with particularly the reason why you can't control greed on gambling. If you wanted to have control on greed, you should think for a change of aspects in life.
867  Economy / Speculation / Re: $10,000 per bitcoin on: July 17, 2017, 04:48:45 AM
$10,000 per bitcoin is maybe possible by 2020 if more countries and enough business start to use bitcoin. my prediction for another few month bitcoin price will around 1600-3000 and 5000 next year.
Hmm interesting, as you said 2020 yeah it can be reach to $10,000 till 2020, but in my opinion it will reach soon because as people taking interesting in bitcoin. So that's why bitcoin is playing role of segWit. So we can say that it will boost more than a past and present as bitcoin improving the disadvantages into pros.

Its possible to reach this price in 2020, but I guess realistically if everything went smooth after Aug 1 then its possible around 2018 we will see the price can touch 10000$. Its still a long way to go before we see the price touches it but want I like is that there are a lot of people here are very optimistic about the price of bitcoin in the future. And I hope those prediction will come to reality. But now, we need to past the hurdles of a looming split, if there is.

For now lets just remain to a conclusion of no possibility as price of btc slowly declines for a certain reasons. Due to the negative speculations behind, bitcoin is really struggling for that price of $10000 to be reach. So the better idea to do is to save your bitcoins now and start buying again when there is signs of price increase in the market soon.
868  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BTC getting too expensive to gamble with on: July 16, 2017, 10:37:12 AM
That's why I resorted to using Altcoins for my gambling and I will recommend that to you. I personally use litecoins and gets confirmed under one minute plus the transaction fees are almost zero. It saves me a hell lot of the disadvantages Bitcoin has theses days.

It is faster but it is hard to gamble with altcoin. There are not that many option of site that allow us to gamble with altcoin and some people dont hoard altcoin. I use doge sometimes because it is cheap and I dont need to use fraction of it to gamble, but sometimes it is hard to find site that allow doge betting

That is true, I think most of these betting houses should start accepting Altcoins and stop over popularizing of Bitcoin because it has deficiencies only Altcoins can be used to solve them.
But they know that in crypto currency if bitcoin is the only popular coin. It's only natural that more casinos prefer to accept bitcoin than altcoin because of the extremely expensive and also bitcoin can give them a double advantage if bitcoin price rise.

I know it has a great advantages if btc price will rise, but for now it's not a better idea because the price of the current update in the market is declining. Maybe gambling my btc is not that profitable and holding it for a good purpose is a wise choice to do for now.
869  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis on: July 16, 2017, 09:53:34 AM
Does anyone have a translation of the latest from https://vk.com/bitcoin_vanga for us?


Google translate didn't help much this time lol but what I get from it is he still thinks we're gonna dip down to the ma20 over the course of 1-6 months before resuming the path towards 40k-100k

That's right, he considers current correction needs to run its course to weekly MA20 (around 1770 at the moment), possibly followed by a few months of sideways/choppy action before resuming the next leg of exponential growth to 10K and beyond.

Well I also believe that current correction needs to run it's course to weekly MA20.The growth cannot be seen for now because of some speculations around and in fact some investors were already dumping their assets due to those rumors around. It will really affect a lot and fluctuations is really visible nowadays.
870  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin With Paypal on: June 22, 2017, 08:13:13 PM
Of course paypal is world's largest digital payment service but here stands an issue with paypal payments.
Everyone knows that payments from paypal can be claimed back upto 180 days. On the opposite side, bitcoin transaction sent once, can't be retracted.
So, it is not safe to exchange funds with paypal until you have a deal with any trusted party.  Hope you understand.

but if I created other paypal account and send my claims to other account? sender can send back anyway?
That's not a difficult thing to do about accounts, those advices is generally good and all you have to do is to have patience; just do what is the suggestions can be reliable to you. Secondary account of paypal is not a big deal for them as long as you completely made it to safety and personal keys has been a confidential thing to you. You can use any name for that acount and much better if a name of family members; and the password must be remembered as always to avoid certain problems of log in issues. After that is complied everything can be sent back in a smooth transactions so you can now proceed to your bitcoin transactions online.
871  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: June 22, 2017, 07:32:49 PM
Give years ago, Golden State was one of the worst teams in the NBA, and look where they are now. They are almost unstoppable.
Any team in the NBA can make it to this status with some luck with the young draft players and good start members to take them to the top.
I don't know about Philadelphia, but it's certainly possible.

Yeah that's possible to have those new draft players to be taken to the top in the future, because of their physical skills of being unstoppable and a lot improved compared from older ones. Given the opportunity of these young players to play it for the next chapter of nba season, I think new bloomers will rise and a legacy to nba; somewhat like the legendary MJordan. Just put to an inspiration of a good example is Golden State success, after having their worst days of nba they've been able to learn day by day as they reached their motivations to learn from their failures, and now we seen how successful this team are.
872  Economy / Speculation / Re: Instability and fluctuations of bitcoin. How dangerous is this? on: June 22, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
It's dangerous in a way how it behaves it's price in the market and that fluctuations can be alarming to the new investors, but profitable to new buyers. Fluctuations is nothing to be worried of as long as you have prescence of mind and you do have the courage to face challenging situations like unpredictable bitcoin price is changing everyday. Danger of fluctuations is revealing always so you should stay strong and don't be discourage if price suddenly falls down.
873  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many people are asking you about Bitcoin now? on: June 22, 2017, 09:39:17 AM
For now there were plenty of people and friends that is asking me about bitcoin, and their main concerns is about bitcoin to spend like money. I told them that bitcoin can be a source of money and can provide you a good income online, as long as you work hard for it and don't mind the speculations behind.
874  Economy / Speculation / Re: what will happen to the price of bitcoin? on: June 21, 2017, 12:29:58 PM
In my personal observations right now bitcoin really behaved in an unexpected way due to price fluctuations; sometimes it lowers down for several days and again it pumps up to higher level. We cannot say to a final conclusion of how it's been doing great, is it for increase or is it for decrease? That's still remains a questions for all of us here and to make it clearly to view now; I must say we are now at the higher stage after few days of low price value of 1btc.
875  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if, we advertise bitcoin on T.V.? on: June 21, 2017, 11:26:01 AM
It is up to the various crypto ventures to advertise about themselves in the TV. Why can't exchanges such as BTC-e, Bitstamp and Kraken purchase a few advertisement slots in the major business TV channels? The same goes for other ventures such as BitPay, Bitify, and Bitpremier.

If we see these exchange sites be on tv that would be a great idea in the future. Internet web adds has come to be the most promising advertisements that is successful throughout the years, and in TV adds which has bigger cost to different btc exchanges. I think that having advertisements in tv for bitcoin should be subsidized by bigger websites that's connected to blockchain network, before that will become to reality. That will become a big boom to bitcoin economy soon and prepare for the effect of advertisemens and demand of bitcoin will increase rapidly; expect for fast price increase.
876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 21, 2017, 09:49:14 AM
Gambling is not necessarily wrong. You just have to gamble responsibly and manage your finances responsibly. Know when to stop and don't gamble away all your money. Then it should be alright.
it is very simple and your opinion are completely correct i agree with that.

gambling only wrong when you as a user/player treat it in the wrong way , basically gambling itself not wrong at all. there is some people who recognize gambling as a way to having fun for sure. the unfortunate thing are when mostly people get addicted and make gambling turn completely wrong.

I absolutely recognize all your thoughts mate and if a player abuse his betting investments into extreme amount invested in the gambling bets; that's considered wrong act. There is no wrong in gambling if you set aside all importances like your finances to be more manageable and you learn how to control yourself not to he addicted with a gambling games. You can be a good gambler if you make that activity to be fun and not a serious matter even you loss or win; that's not a big deal for you.
877  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: June 21, 2017, 03:43:49 AM
These people always kept saying bitcoin is dead because they think of the possibilities that bitcoin price will fall down, due to discouraging words about the death of bitcoin. Well if we analyze it in a practical sense, it's not a proven idea that bitcoin will have a death; that's because of higher demand of bitcoin right now and lots of people are now longing to buy bitcoins for their investments. How come bitcoin will die despite of the facts that it's been traveling the whole world today, through social media communications via internet network advertisements and campaigns promoting the usefullness of bitcoin.
878  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Someone won freebitco.in lottery already? on: June 20, 2017, 09:02:52 PM
And last week there's a guy who won 0.008 with just 32 to lottery tickets , I can imagine the frustration on the people who bought thousands of tickets or hundreds of thousands of tickets without winning anything  Cheesy

It's nothing to do about frustrations mate, because in a game of freebitco.in lottery that's a normal scenario to hit the target of the collected amount from ticket buyers. In a game and since the beginning of different contest; there is really a rule to follow that if a price is at a bigger amount there should be a one winner or maybe 2 to 3 winners to enjoy the prize. The prize depends really on the promotion income from the tickets earnings collected, and that amount has the percetage to be added in thr prize of the raffle. So don't get mad and as I see here, it's just a fair situation and although more frustrations really happened but that's normal in a game.
879  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Is Not Garbage, Embrace It on: June 20, 2017, 02:31:44 PM
If those speculators playing unfair, I will not seemingly entertain their rumors but I am putting my bows to those who can prove it litterally that bitcoin is a garbage. Then I couldn't see it as a reason to be cold against bitcoin and those people saying garbage on botcoin will turn out to shame like what's happening today price now at over $2000 ; and that's a big embarassment to them. Upon hearing it as a very bold comments on bitcoin as a garbage, I really believed that bitcoins always relied on the foundations you had of your entire life.
880  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Just got banned from bitmixer campaign and have a question on: June 20, 2017, 12:35:42 PM
Maybe you should PM the campaign manager for this and explain that you're the real owner of this account. Signed message is a must.

If you read the campaign thread you'll find all the rules. You have to read more than just the original post.

If you weren't banned from the campaign (and just removed) you'll have the opportunity to appeal after 60 days. If you contact or request review before 60 days you'll significantly hurt your chances of any consideration to get readmitted.

I don't know if you bought this account or not...and I don't know what Lauda's opinion is on those types of accounts. What I do know is the long period of inactivity is a HUGE RED FLAG of breaking a rule that is meant to keep previously banned members of this forum away from participating in the forum. You should find out how long it takes for your inactivity warning to retire. And if you did buy this account, you shouldn't use it for a signature campaign.

Follow the rules and you'll get to enjoy this privilege. It is a privilege.

I see that the manager's decision is to be followed and be respected by most of the forum member, and as I see the reputation of the manager is very well trusted. Some members have their own sentiments about the character imposed to the offender of the rules, but I see that she has a deeper reasons and proof why he banned your account in the forum. So if were you, the next time you join a signature campaign; you must be a rule abiding member and avoid spamming and low post quality.
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