^^^ The Sagnac experiment demonstrates the existence of a static aether and the Dufour & Prunier replication falsifies relativity (gravity). I may be swimming in the deep end of the pool with my description thereof but at least I've got a model that uses already existing and testable science that hasn't been deep-sixed by experiment.

You want to claim I'm not palsying with a full deck but don't have an explanation for things that hasn't been falsified. The Earth is not a spinning globe and you sir are a hypocrite.


So what you're saying is that the Earth can't be flat because I seen cartoon picture of ball on TV?

My understanding of aether is that it's an incompressible superfine gas-like substance, the least dense material possible with the most kinetic energy. Particulate matter would be in this case an area of low density or expanded aether. The aether is still flowing through the matter as kinetic energy however the high pressure area has been displaced by a lower pressure system.

As for my opinion on the experiment you purpose, you're doing the same thing as af_newbie and attempting to strawman my argument with a loaded question. The Earth's electric field does not push on objects directly. It's is possible to counter the force pushing down on an object by levitating it with a high voltage field but that's not how the force pushing you down works; it's displaced atmosphere that's pushing you down.

^^^ You're an idiot, it's even in the quoted text that I state it's not the earth's electric field that's pushing but the displaced atmosphere. Perhaps the electric polarization that defines up & down might be better explained in terms of magnetic fields, but how would you know that unless you're a shill playing dumb? EM phenomenon can be derived from either magnetic or electric fields, the choice is arbitrary; two diffrrent ways of skinning the same cat.

Relativity and hence gravity have been falsified by the Sagnac experiment (1913) and the D&P replication (1939) that took rotating frames of reference into account. The static aether model has been confirmed and needs to be taken into consideration when explaining physical phenomenon. If your rebuttal to the electric model I'm describing is muh gravity and muh relativity then you need to take a seat.

However, your current argument seems to be strawmaning my model (you don't even have a model, it's been falsified), again I state it's not the electric field pushing directly but the displaced atmosphere.

@odolvlobo, what is matter? My understanding is that it's a mode of aether, like a whirlpool in a river.



The issue of aether flowing through matter is complex, however the resistance it encounters is clearly not. Electromagnetics is entirely based on fluid flow dynamics.

The "action" between the capacitor plates can be measured with an accelerometer, 9.8m/s^2. Earth's electric field can also be measured, 100V/m at sea level.

@af_newbie, a Farday cage blocks some radiated EM waves and static electric fields, it doesn't block all electromagnetic phenomenon. A magnetic compass for example will continue to function inside a Faraday cage and, electric displacement current (such as in a capcitor) can also pass through the cage.

Look at the phenomenon of electromigration, this effect is akin to how the force pushing you down works. It's not a direct push from the electric field, the less dense particles push on the more dense particles as they're attracted to the positive anode. With Earth and the buoyant forces pushing you down it's the action of displacement current acting on the atmosphere, however just a current of charged ions is usually involved with the example of electromigration.

You could imagine for simplicity's sake that we're all inside a giant asymmetric capacitor with the negative plate being the surface of the Earth and, the positive plate being the surface of the dome above. The apparent or fictitious force we all know and love as gravity is all but an electrical action that mediates density and buoyancy between the plates of this electrical device.

The only one in checkmate here is anybody using gravity or relativity to argue their point, why do you think Astargath is trying so hard to discredit and ignore Dufour & Prunier's 1939 replication of Sagnac experiment.

The force acting on an object is from the displaced medium, that being aether (vacuum), air, water or whatever the object is surrounded by. Aether flows through all matter with little to no resistance and can't be shielded against.

My point here is that the force pushing you down is ultimately electric in origin but it's not a direct action like how they claim gravity works. There's an entirely different process involved akin to what's known as "electromigration", this effect like the force pushing you down will continue to act even inside a Faraday cage.

^^^ You're the idiot for claiming unproven theory is fact. Coulomb's inverse square law is something that can be demonstrated in the lab, gravity or more accurately relativity is unproven theory that has been falsified in the lab.

@born yesterday_stupid as fuck, get inside a Faraday cage then have it lowered into a lake.

Earth's electric field defines up & down and provides the constraints that density and buoyancy work within. Coulomb's inverse square law quantifies the forces involved.

Things fall or sink because they're more dense than the air or water they're surrounded by; they're pushed down by the medium.

With government, schools, churches and the media all preaching the miracle of the globe in unison they need the magic of gravity to hold it all together. Telling people there's a giant ball below them with a magic force pulling them down to explain away the absurdity of sticking to a sphere while it spins in a vacuum, is the perfect example of gaslighting or, to "mess up the minds of people" as you so ineloquently put it.

There's a reason they can't explain what causes gravity, because the theory is 100% pure bullshit!

^^^ It's not even gravity anymore, Newtonian gravity (1687) was a test to see if you're paying attention to his calculated description of motion and optics or not. He stated outright in his letters that there was a conspiracy of Jews and secret societies. Today and in response to the 1887 M&M experiment it's not "gravity" but relativity (1905). Unfortunately relativity was falsified in 1939 by D&P with their replication of the Sagnac experiment (1913).

You might as well have a 24/7 live-stream from the the Star Trek universe, it's currently got about as much credibility if you read the comments people leave.

^^^ You make unsubstantiated claims to support your spinning clown world, and I provide experimental results that falsify relativity and establish a stationary Earth. Who's to say what's right, your passion for balls in motion at the cost of empirical measure or, actually following the scientific method?

^FTFY

I answered that question a few posts back.


Their behavior as you put it is the result of being corrupt. When everything a person believes is garbage it makes them easier to exploit. In the eyes of the deceived the deceivers gain god-like powers and can perform miracles and such because the deceived' understanding of how things works is backwards, upside-down, inverted, mislead or just plain wrong.

The fine details of their criminal motives matter not, we are being lied to and need to deal with it. If you didn't have to pay for gas or electricity would that effect your everyday livelihood? Your beliefs about how things work matter and can be exploited by criminals.

^^^ Discrediting the inventor of the oscilloscope isn't going to fly, it's game over for relativity. There's no credible argument against the results of the 1887 M&M experiment; the Earth is motionless.

^^^ There are no photographs of a globe earth you absolute twat. You're either too stupid to recognize composite images, airbrushing, photo-realistic paintings, photoshop, stop-motion, CGI animation and green-screen effects, that or you're a fucking liar.

Astargath keeps asking for it so here it is:


Source: https://collections.museumvictoria.com.au/ | Photograph - 'William Scoresby' by George Rayner, Antarctica, circa 1920s

Photo, or painting?

^^^ The Earth is round, it's a circular plain.




^{Image Source: NASA | Enlarged and cropped still-frame from an ipad reflection onboard the ISS}

Learn to distinguish between fantasy and reality.

^^^ It is a massive April Fools joke. The Earth really is flat, which leads to the observation that we live in a clown world riding an imaginary merry-go-round though the vast infinite space between your ears.

^^^ Your response begets Mathew when Jesus said not to cast pearls before swine.

^^^ We're inside an engineered high-tech structure. TPTB would prefer that you believe that there is no architect, no engineer, no builder, nobody "above" them, nobody higher, nobody more powerful, nobody more wise. They want to be your gods.

Your claim that it doesn't matter is false.

^^^ There is no centrifugal force, you're an idiot.