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861  Economy / Speculation / Re: Supercycle or Halving cycle still? on: January 18, 2022, 06:49:57 PM
Once bitcoins enter the supply, they remain in the supply. The constant increase causes a downward pressure on the price as the supply curve slides to the right. The halving only reduces that downward pressure on price and it can't explain a 10x increase in price.
But does KNOWING that the halvings every four years “reduce that downwards pressure on the price”, explain that it makes investors more positive about buying Bitcoin after every halving. Because the price, as seen in the chart, gives this impression.
People know the effect of the halving long before the halving actually occurs. If that is the cause then you would see the effect before the halving. Interestingly, Litecoin does show this effect. In both Litecoin halvings, the price rose sharply until just prior to the halving. Then, the bubble popped and the price fell sharply, and it continued to fall after the halving.

I believe that the actual causes of the Bitcoin bubbles are similar, but more general. News about the halvings or other events generates interest and promotes speculation, which which feeds on itself and slowly evolves into a bubble.

Finally, if we attribute the bubbles to what people believe about the supply and not the supply itself, then the bubbles have little to do with money supply and everything to do with demand.
862  Economy / Economics / Re: The Metaverse economics and Meta-laws on: January 18, 2022, 05:29:46 AM
"Metaverse" is just a rebranding of "cyberspace". There is nothing new about it.
863  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Text to sha256 private key creation on: January 18, 2022, 02:07:14 AM
This topic has been discussed many times. In general, any brain wallet that can be easily memorized is likely to be cracked.

Take a look at this thread: Collection of 18.509 found and used Brainwallets In that thread you will see phrases that look secure, but have been cracked.

Your phrase looks safe but maybe it isn't. Even if it is safe, how sure are you that you won't forget a single letter 50 years from now.
864  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: Complete inelasticity of supply on: January 17, 2022, 11:03:53 PM
Besides portability, divisibility, durability and easiness on verifiability, Bitcoin has a unique feature people seem to skip: Complete inelasticity of supply.

It is important to note that market supply is not the same as money supply. Bitcoin's money supply is fixed (or more precisely, on a fixed schedule). The market supply is not. It is not inelastic because there are different prices for different quantities, as seen in an exchange's order book.

Elasticity is not typically associated with money supply, although I suppose it could be. There could be a measure of elasticity regarding money supply vs. GDP , for example.

FYI, elasticity refers to the slope of the curve.
865  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A solo Bitcoin miner just won block 718214 reward worth 6.25 $BTC on: January 16, 2022, 01:41:52 AM
In a mining pool, all miners are working on the same exact block with the same exact coinbase.
Are you sure about this?
I heard that the newer versions of stratum allow each miner some kind of flexibiliity

You are referring to the BetterHash and Stratum V2 protocols that give the hashers more control over what transactions go into the blocks.

Regardless, whether or not the hashers are working on the same block with the same coinbase is irrelevant. The basis of a pool is that if anyone in the pool finds a block, everyone in the pool shares the reward. If that is not the case, then it can't be considered to be a pool.
866  Economy / Speculation / Re: Supercycle or Halving cycle still? on: January 16, 2022, 01:31:08 AM
Unfortunately it is not really that small. The difference between the traded ones and the mined ones is that when you trade there is a buyer and there is a seller, when you buy it is created out of nothing and you just sell it.

There is no difference. When a miner sells bitcoins, they sell to a buyer. There is no way for the market to distinguish between a miner selling bitcoins and a holder selling bitcoins. They are the same in every way.

Ultimately, I think the best metric is the inflow of bitcoins to exchanges. You would expect inflows to plummet by up to 50% after a halving. However, if you look at this graph, you will see that the last two halvings had no apparent effect on the inflow of bitcoins to exchanges. Inflows actually rose after halvings.

867  Economy / Speculation / Re: Supercycle or Halving cycle still? on: January 15, 2022, 10:20:41 AM
I believe that’s true, but doesn’t the halvings reduce currency issuance, ans therefore also reduce selling pressure from the issuers, in Bitcoin, the miners?

The change is tiny. 500,000 bitcoins are traded on exchanges each day and the last halving resulted in only 900 fewer bitcoins.

Once bitcoins enter the supply, they remain in the supply. The constant increase causes a downward pressure on the price as the supply curve slides to the right. The halving only reduces that downward pressure on price and it can't explain a 10x increase in price.
868  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: MJB Monetery Metals AOCS OG coins for sale? on: January 15, 2022, 03:24:47 AM
Does anyone have an of the MJB Monetery Metals AOCS coins for sale?

Post in the Collectibles subforum. That is your best bet.
869  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Everything you wanted to know about Grayscale BTC Trust but were afraid to ask! on: January 15, 2022, 12:55:16 AM
Why on Earth should a Trust holding bitcoin trade with such a discount on NAV?

The real question is why wouldn't someone buy the BTC in GBTC at a 24% discount.

One factor might be that traditional asset investors are less bullish about BTC than BTC investors, and BTC investors would rather hold their own BTC than let someone else hold it, even at a 24% discount.

Another might be that 24% is small in the long run, so there is little incentive to take advantage of the discount.

Since there is no redemption, there is no mechanism to ensure that the 24% discount will go to 0%. That makes it a risky arbitrage. I am playing the arbitrage game with the assumption that GBTC will be converted to an ETF soon, and so far it has been costly.
870  Economy / Economics / Re: Thinking through how the blockchain and related tech might impact real estate. on: January 15, 2022, 12:32:12 AM
The problem imo is that blockchain works well when you have to deal with data that is generated according to certain condition defined by the protocol, for physical / material assets not so much, unless the information can be verified by the whole network which is very unlikely for real estate, and it ends up depending on trusted third parties so blockchain are more going to be a waste than anything.
Blockchain for real estate is a meaningless combination, I suspect are made up to attract investors with a buzzword.
Fir s of all, I hardly doubt you'll ever need a blockchain for any non-monetary application non Bitcoin application.
Secondly, as @IadixDev correctly stated, the oracle and his fairness represent a crucial weak point in any blockchain/physical world interaction.

A block chain can record abstract data and signatures. With only that, an entry in the block chain can indicate a transfer of title from one entity to another. That could be useful if it removes the requirement of a trusted third-party to record the transfer. Whether or not the information about the title and its relationship to the physical world can be verified by the network is not relevant to this specific utility.

Your statements are rooted in a fallacy called an argument from incredulity. They state that something is not possible or not useful because I cannot personally conceive of the possibility or the utility.

On the other hand, there are strong arguments that support the claim that a block chain whose value is derived from something beyond its internal value is fragile. That is why many people believe that Defi block chains and even Ethereum are doomed to failure.
871  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Radeon RX 6500 XT is bad at cryptocurrency mining on purpose, AMD says on: January 14, 2022, 10:30:08 PM
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Ford Combats F-150 Lightning Scalping With No-Sale Provision
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do people really scalp vehicles? what the fuck is going on with this world

It's not typical. There is a two-year waiting list for that truck, and plenty of people would pay extra to get one earlier.
872  Economy / Speculation / Re: Supercycle or Halving cycle still? on: January 14, 2022, 10:13:20 PM
Bitcoin always hit its ATH every after halving...
That statement is not correct, or it is too vague or needs too many qualifications to mean anything useful. End of story.
But Bitcoin always did go to a new ATH as a path to price discovery after each halving cycle. Probably because of the halving itself, and probably because of a few other circumstances, like BRRR-money printing and other inflationary policies by the Federal Reserve/Central Banks.

There is no reason to associate all-time highs with halvings. Bitcoin has repeatedly gone to new highs regardless of the halvings. The idea that the halving causes an all-time high is a self-perpetuating myth based on confirmation bias.

  • The times between halvings and all-time highs have typically been very long. Only the 2012 halving was followed soon after by an all-time high.
  • There is no correlation between halvings and all-time highs. There were two all-time highs between the 2012 and 2016 halvings, and two all-time highs since the 2020 halving.
  • The 2011 all-time high occurred before the 2012 halving.
873  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Mined in Beta, how can I get back into it? on: January 13, 2022, 11:07:57 PM
TL;DR:

The OP mined bitcoins a long time ago and has a wallet.dat (actually several) that may or may not have bitcoins. Synching the block chain is very slow. The OP wants advice on what to do to retrieve his potential bitcoins in the most effective way.




If you mined in 2011, you shouldn't have to wait very long to synchronize with the blocks that contain your coins.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
874  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Radeon RX 6500 XT is bad at cryptocurrency mining on purpose, AMD says on: January 13, 2022, 10:55:56 PM
It's a weird response to the huge demand for their product. Instead of increasing production to make more money, manufacturers intentionally cripple their product to reduce demand.

On the other hand, demand for graphics cards for mining is very volatile. Perhaps manufacturers would rather sell fewer cards than risk committing to a huge production run that they potentially can't sell.
875  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A solo Bitcoin miner just won block 718214 reward worth 6.25 $BTC on: January 13, 2022, 07:26:56 PM
People are making this out to be some kind of miracle, but it is not.

Consider the Powerball lottery. The odds of winning it are 1 in 300,000,000, yet somebody always seems to win. That's because of the number of people that enter.

It all comes down to math. So let's do the math.

Let's assume that there are only 100 solo miners, each with 120 TH/s. That's a total of 12 PH/s. The total hash rate is 180,000 PH/s, so the probability of one of these miners winning a block is 0.000067. That is quite low; however, there are 52560 blocks each year.

The probability of one of these solo miners winning at least one block in a year is 1-(1-0.000067)52560 = 3%.

It's low, but it is not a miracle. Furthermore, if we assume there are 1000 such miners, then the probability is so close to 1 that it would be a miracle if one of them didn't win a block.

876  Economy / Economics / Re: Thinking through how the blockchain and related tech might impact real estate. on: January 12, 2022, 08:00:12 PM
The obvious benefit is that the involvement of third-parties can be reduced by recording transfers of titles with a block chain, as long as those third parties recognize the process as valid. An NFT can be used as a way to register ownership, so it seems like a natural fit to me. That doesn't mean it will happen any time soon, though. Governments tend to protect their economic empires at the expense of their constituents.
877  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is a commodity market ? on: January 11, 2022, 05:46:36 AM
Price can change at any time with irrelevant things. That doesn't change the value though. Value is still decided based on supply and demand, and there will be a reasonable value for everything at any time.

That's an odd thing to write because supply and demand are literally defined in terms of price (and quantity). I guess it would help to  define "price" and "value" and explain the difference between them.

For me, they are basically the same, except that price is a objective aggregate measure of value, which itself is subjective. In other words, something may have a price, but its value to higher to some and lower to others.
878  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin has value in the market? Some food for thought! on: January 11, 2022, 05:18:03 AM
and thats the beauty of markets
i didnt say the buyer had to buy 0.000001 . if he didnt like that idea. we then enter barter. of 0.00001 or 0.0001 where i stop at 0.001
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never sell at a loss

If you never sell at a loss, then you might never sell. If you never sell, then that implies that its value is 0, because you will never get any benefit from it.
879  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin has value in the market? Some food for thought! on: January 11, 2022, 04:56:15 AM
if i had 10 coin and say it was worth $40k(to me) each
and someone had only $40 and no one else was willing to give me $$ today

i do not have to sell my 10coin for $40 at a $399,960 combined loss.
what i can do though is only hand him 0.000001 of my coin(my value 4c) meaning if i sell my 0.000001 for $40, i am making 1000x profit. ...

You might not, but you can't make that assumption for all sellers.

And you can't assume that the buyers will pay whatever you ask. If nobody is willing to pay $40 for 0.000001 then you won't make your 1000x profit.
880  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin has value in the market? Some food for thought! on: January 11, 2022, 04:36:26 AM
if the mining cost was $1 they would most certainly mine it instead, and then try to sell at a 2x profit. which would end up having bitcoin value of $1-$2 if everyone done the same
Your reasoning assumes that there is an unlimited number of bitcoins that can be mined, but that is not true.
when have i ever assumed bitcoin is unlimited number of coins.?? never.
That is the only way someone could continue to sell at a fixed price regardless of the demand. You wrote "sell at a 2x profit", but nothing would stop the miner from selling at 2000x profit except demand. So, the bitcoins could have a value of $2000 if there is enough demand.

Likewise, if there is no demand for the bitcoins at $1, but there is demand at a lower value, miners would have to sell them at a loss. People like to claim that "nobody would sell at a loss", but that is simply not true. Lots of people sell at a loss all the time.

I believe that you are saying that the price of a bitcoin is somehow determined by the cost of mining it, but I have shown that it is not.
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