I know this has been discussed here before but I don't see the solution for how to effectively deal with Bitcointalk bumping services.

Take a look at this thread, its quite obvious that they hired such a service, not to mention its to promote a scam token:

"Short Bitcoin" token: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5087584 (starts around post #11)

As far as I know they're not breaking any actual rules besides Spamming maybe, so I don't know how I should report them to get them banned / nuked. It's apparent which ones are the bump bots as they are all noobs that tend to have low post counts and no merit.

Is there a master meta thread where these types of threads can be reported?

Thanks.

Just irritating watching people promote scams in such a cheesy manner.

What token? Where? Can you prove that there is a token? I tried to find it on Forkdelta and it wasn't there. It apparently also doesn't have a Smart Contract, so I highly doubt it even exists. Feel free to prove me wrong.

Now watch as a flood of bump bots ignore these questions and continue to spam for this project...

A few big red flags regarding this project:

1. No team members
2. No actual data provided about how this token will achieve its goal. You can't make claims about having holdings that will back up this project without providing them. You promised you would put them on the website, they're not there.
3. There's no Ethereum smart contract for "BSHORT." I don't see it on Forkdelta, LedgerDEX or Token.Store. Its also not listed on the website.
4. The website is not secured. I have doubt it is actually associated with Chancellor Bennett of Decentra Capital. You would think he would be promoting this project on his social media, which he has not.
5. The graph on the website has the months named in Russian, where as Chancellor Bennett is from Southern California. The OP is also Russian and likely bought or hacked this account in 2017.
6. This is too poorly worded a comment for somebody who should be fluent in English (as the real Decentra Capital is based in the U.S.):


7. This thread employs a bump bot service.

In short (no pun intended), the legitimacy of this project is in serious doubt without some proper verification.

I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Pretty straight-forward, simple story, really.


Invisible jet hitting the Pentagon? You mean AA Flight 77? What happened to that plane? You can't explain something by making it more complicated and unprovable than it already is.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/debunking-911-myths-pentagon/

"passports surviving the fire" -- all kinds of things survived the fire. Not exactly a "hmm" moment.

It's all pretty out in the open, not much "swept under the rug" except for fictional evidence that truthers insists exists.

A more genuine conspiracy is the enrichment of the military-industrial complex via the needless invasion of Iraq in the months that followed.

Pretty amazing how the four comments above came from members who had their profiles created within minutes of each other.

Diskcroc8  January 04, 2019, 03:16:07 PM
Ccrypthon  January 04, 2019, 03:20:54 PM
Scodeist    January 04, 2019, 03:25:08 PM
bithawk     January 04, 2019, 03:28:15 PM

Not to mention each comment is vague yet similar-sounding.

They also all recently commented in this thread.

Wow, what are the odds?! Either very, very slim or else 100%, depending on how you look at things...

Never stopped you, did it?? 

If anything I think Ver sold his BTC for BCH, as did CSW sell whatever BTC he had to buy SV. Both are now sitting on tremendous losses in their war for ego dominance. What a shitshow. There were no winners, only losers.

Yeah its always pretty encouraging when you see somebody with a relative handful of tickets win the main prize. Then there are people who purchase millions that don't place, or win $5, but that's the way the dice rolls I suppose.

In the month or so that I've been free rolling so far I've 9886 or above 3 times, not too bad for an average of 4-5 rolls a day.

I didn't know Mormons had their own cuisine. Do they have food preparation standards that are the equivalent of Kosher or Halal? I wonder what its called... "Smithee" perhaps.

Betchip has no legitimate uses. The jig is up. You were exposed for promoting a scam a long time ago. Why bother repeating nonsense at this point? Your company was legally forced to cease operations in the U.S., where the majority of Betchips were sold. Please, stop embarrassing yourself.

They're gonna leak it to pastebin? That's a bit weird. Surprised they didn't choose Wikileaks. I can only guess its because the data isn't that valuable, or legitimate.

It sounds like their next biggest accomplishment was leaking a season of Orange is the New Black, not exactly truth-bombers we're dealing with here.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2019/01/02/hacking-group-the-dark-overlord-threatens-to-leak-sensitive-911-documents/#389b24064313

I was a bit more behind the curve for some but I remember hearing about bitcoin as early as 2011/2012 thanks to an NPR podcast where the hosts involved themselves in a bitcoin buying experiment. They were pretty crushed when the price fell from like one dollar to 25 cents, but obviously they'd be millionaires now if they retained their stash.

The second time I heard about it was when I listened to Andreas Antonopoulos on the Joe Rogan Experience in mid to late 2013. From then on I was hooked. The guy just made bitcoin sound so exciting and transformative, and he was right. I wonder how many other people here got the bitcoin bug thanks to Joe Rogan and AA... Hard to believe that was 5 and a half years ago now, time flies...

I notice when I take a break from online poker for a while my win rate definitely goes down. There's a lot of skill factors that can be sharpened and honed in on: not only knowing the relative value of your hand but how to gauge the skill of your opponents, sorting out the bluffers and the slow players, and knowing when you've been playing well versus just getting lucky. Of course luck has something to do with it but the pros will always beat out the lucky given enough hands.

You keep forgetting about the fact that people need ETH to use FREE, so they already know about cryptocurrency because ETH has taught them. It's not like you have comprehensive resources such as beginner's guides for getting into crypto or something. If somebody can buy FREE, that means they already know how to use ETH. So why wouldn't people just send tiny bits of ETH to one another for the same price of 100,000 of your tokens?

Also, I don't know how you can say its "without financial risks." If somebody buys $100 and the price plummets by 70% overnight (as it did yesterday), I would say thats a financial risk. If somebody only buy $10 of your coin, well, why wouldn't they just buy $10 worth of ETH and hold it as ETH is far less volatile and risky than FREE?

I don't claim to understand how their particular hash generations work but it seems to me like you're right in that you can't use forum posts as a statistically valid way of counting winners. It is only potentially indicative of something and doesn't constitute as proof of anything.

And we'll keep reminding you of predictions you made that came to be flat out wrong, which are most if not all. Bitcoin is thriving, shitcoins are dying, I don't see what the problem is.

Yeah but their main mission statement isn't "worldwide adoption of cryptocurrency." The point is Ethereum is already doing that. Every time somebody wants to send FREE they have to pay for 100,000 worth of it in ETH gas.  So this means they already have Ethereum. So why wouldn't they just send ETH back and forth to one another.

Your whitepaper slogan is: "Social project to promote cryptocurrency usage and increase global wealth"

- ETH is already promoting cryptocurrency by having already been everywhere FREE is going
- How are you gonna "increase global wealth"? This would mean people selling FREE for more than they bought it, so some people are obviously not going to be more wealthy as trading is a zero-sum game. This is just rubbish.

Your other team member is your only testimonial, which must be a joke.

But the real joke is this:



You're suggesting your token will have a market cap of $310 million by the end of 2020? Why? What is going to propel this magnificent move into the top 25 coins by size? Don't just say "adoption." Give me concrete ideas on how you plan to achieve this. Your white paper is totally devoid of them.

You're also suggesting your token will have a market cap of $8.3 TRILLION by the end of 2024. This is just ludicrous. There's no way on earth that is ever happening.

A token whose only reason why people should buy it is because it will go up in value is a scam.

Really, shame on you for trying to prey on the hopes and the dreams of the poor and the financially illiterate by promising them vast wealth. A man your age should know better.

This makes little to no sense. "Median" the most commonly used tx fee, aka 4 cents.


You're right; I've been paying 8 cents. Not exactly a deal-breaker.


And what's your alternative?


Uh, right, I also mentioned people that pay a $1.00 fee to transact $10,000 worth of BTC. What's the holdup?


Nobody said that they will.


You've gone beyond reaching into delusion.



People do spend actually $900 on an iPhone... And a $40 smart phone isn't necessarily "cheap" to a lot of people BTW. All you're doing is highlighting how out of touch with the world you are.


Show me where in the white paper it says bitcoin was supposed to be used by absolutely everybody on planet earth.


you are actually. you tear down bitcoin at every turn and offer no viable alternatives. feel free to fork a "Frank Coin" and lets see how far you get with it. Please -- instead of commenting on this forum, that's really where your time would best be served.


What a weird argument. Four cents Franky. The magic number is four cents.


Frank. The world is a big place. Obviously bitcoin can't be viable for all of them. We're sorry to let you down.

Look man. You seem like a nice guy, as does the person above you. However, its my duty to continue to reply on this thread to warn others that this token is a scam.

Just think about it: how can this token fulfill its mission of "worldwide adoption" when it requires an ETH gas fee everywhere it goes? The average ETH gas fee costs close to 100,000 FREE -- if ETH goes up in value how will anybody be able to afford to transact less than 100,000 FREE at one time? It will cost more in gas than the value of the number of FREE you are sending each time. Why wouldn't people all over the world just send tiny bits of ETH to each other instead?

In truth, there's no real reason why FREE should increase in value. It has no long-term plans (besides mass adoption), no utility, and its main positive is the fact that it is offering several thousand-fold returns in the future. That's a scam. No credible project has thousands-fold percent returns suggested in their whitepaper. Yet FREE does. Get out while you still can.

That's kind of clever (sans the non blockchain.com email address, and google docs signup  ) seeing as how blockchain.com really did have a $20 Stellar giveaway.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/itcoin-wallet-blockchain-cryptocurrency-stellar-lumens-airdrop-giveaway-a8621476.html

However, all I had to do was enter in my email address to be eligible for it.

OK first of all you're doing some mass averaging here. Thats NOT the same thing as a median! Here's a more accurate portrayal of fees for you:

The fastest and cheapest transaction fee is currently 4 satoshis/byte, shown in green at the top.
For the median transaction size of 257 bytes, this results in a fee of 1,028 satoshis.

1,028 satoshis = slightly less than four cents!

If somebody wants to pay a $1 fee on a $1,000 transaction, that's their business and it beats out most fiat payment processors.


I live in the Philippines where 50 cents an hour is a decent salary so you're pretty much dead wrong. People who make 20 cents an hour simply don't have the time or the resources to screw around with bitcoin. They probably don't have access to steady internet or phones capable of supporting a bitcoin wallet. The average world salary is roughly $9 an hour.


Again your conflating averages with medians. It's a specious argument made to further your weird narrative about bitcoin being bad.