[ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees

[hv_]

Now sv are posting here before it was core spreading shit. How do you explain it?

Being forks of each other, ABC and SV share a common heritage. As such, this thread is as applicable to SV as it is to ABC.

Paths are different, tickers are different. And there is BCH and BSV from 15 Nov and on. Just get over it sv forked off from BCH.

Nope. U can do better research. But now we are where it is.

Is that false what I've said? Anyway check this out cool thing coming to BCH don't confuse with sv.
https://www.cashaccount.info/

https://twitter.com/ari_cryptonized/status/1080454843658055681?s=21

Honest miner did apply to Nakamoto consensus  ABC did not. But cheated and grabbed the ticker.

Hm.. sounds like blockstream did before?

[addicto]

Bitcoin will not be able to increase the size of the block otherwise it will mean the recognition that BCH is better. But without increasing the block to solve the problem of BTC scaling is impossible

This is totally nonsense to make confuse the people with this bigger block size now that has been over with the fork. BCH ABC and SV both are fall under altcoins so this is not your problem how BTC will overcome on these issue which is not important at this point.

[alevlaslo]

Bitcoin will not be able to increase the size of the block otherwise it will mean the recognition that BCH is better. But without increasing the block to solve the problem of BTC scaling is impossible

This is totally nonsense to make confuse the people with this bigger block size now that has been over with the fork. BCH ABC and SV both are fall under altcoins so this is not your problem how BTC will overcome on these issue which is not important at this point.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg49017476#msg49017476

[adaseb]

The reason why people don't always want bigger blocks is due to centralization risk.

Basically assume BSV has an 128MB block thats completely filled up. If a miner finds a block but he has a slow internet connection and takes him a few seconds longer to upload his block data while at the same time another miner with a faster internet connections finds it a few seconds later but gets it sent to the nodes first, his block will get accepted instead.

Another issue is that size needed to run a node. Look at ETH, I am pretty sure its almost at 1TB and because of this reason many people don't want to run a node. Since more bandwidth and more hard drive space cost more money.

[alevlaslo]

if will add masternodes and reward for them, there will be many who want to install a full node

[lsd400]

Now sv are posting here before it was core spreading shit. How do you explain it?

Being forks of each other, ABC and SV share a common heritage. As such, this thread is as applicable to SV as it is to ABC.

Paths are different, tickers are different. And there is BCH and BSV from 15 Nov and on. Just get over it sv forked off from BCH.

Nope. U can do better research. But now we are where it is.

Is that false what I've said? Anyway check this out cool thing coming to BCH don't confuse with sv.
https://www.cashaccount.info/

https://twitter.com/ari_cryptonized/status/1080454843658055681?s=21

Honest miner did apply to Nakamoto consensus  ABC did not. But cheated and grabbed the ticker.

Hm.. sounds like blockstream did before?

Guy get's too emotional I guess. Roger has shit load of btc, bch and sv. But as you know sv leaders craig, calvin keeps him out of that coin.

[lsd400]

Opennode Rejects Roger Ver's $1.25 Million Offer to Accept BCH 

Opennode, a bitcoin payment processor rejected Roger Ver's to switch from Bitcoin's Lightning-Network to Bitcoin Cash.

In a Youtube video, Roger Ver criticised Lightning Network's Scalability and offer OpenNode $1.25 Million if they switch to the BCH network.

OpenNode openly rejected Ver's offer on twitter, stating that "better, more open financial system is only possible with Bitcoin."

 

source:
https://coinnounce.com/1-24-million-offer-by-roger-ver-to-opennode-for-accepting-bch-rejected/

That is big hint for wise people who are still dreaming this is alive project and they will see this rising again like it gone high in past. OpenNode don't want to make their project suspicious that's why they rejected this offer.

But it was nice bribe money from Roger Kver...
He showed that he is willing to spend millions of dollars for BribeCash coin.
He is also using his dollars to pay japan sockpuppets promotions

Bribecash? Really? there is no such coin. You guys getting creative 

[jbreher]

The reason why people don't always want bigger blocks is due to centralization risk.

Basically assume BSV has an 128MB block thats completely filled up. If a miner finds a block but he has a slow internet connection and takes him a few seconds longer to upload his block data while at the same time another miner with a faster internet connections finds it a few seconds later but gets it sent to the nodes first, his block will get accepted instead.

Silly. If a miner is slow to propagate his block, he stands a higher chance of having that block orphaned. This is true. But this is true regardless of the block size.

Which, of course, is why miners -- who tend to have relatively large investments in mining hardware (e.g. multiple millions of USD) -- tend not to skimp on the mechanisms employed to get their blocks propagated with All Due Alacrity.

If not, then too bad, so sad. They get outcompeted. Waah.

Another issue is that size needed to run a node. Look at ETH, I am pretty sure its almost at 1TB and because of this reason many people don't want to run a node. Since more bandwidth and more hard drive space cost more money.

Intentionally crippling the greatest tool for liberty mankind has known in the last century, just to satisfy some Raspberry Pi fetish, is lunacy. Not to mention counterproductive. As the cost of on-chain transactions is fated to again reach stratospheric levels.

[NrX]

What matters the most is trust what plays vital role in ultimate authority and status of anything. Bitcoin is name of trust for being up and resilient to every single attack in a decade time. There can more advanced projects but they can never reach not even near of that status and trust what Bitcoin holds. This is the main thing those understand it will never believe in words of people those can't be trusted.

[bitcoin_diamond]

BCash is having some extreme issues this sort of asset can fall to really new lowest because it cannot get any support from lightning network.
Roger Ver has been rejected for the support from the opennode
this asset is next to 0
dont put your valuable money into junk which you are unaware of .. its your hard earned money i suppose and if you gonna put something in modified source which is not scalable and have issues with coding you are making a big mistake in your life... roger ver and people like craig wright will bring you random coins for their own motives they know themselves what they are bringing to market.. roger ver has even sold most of the BCash these people are curse to crypto community dont be blind into thinking this asset will be any good..
i am just here to help our community i have no other motive then to serve people.
i would suggest anyone to get a new algo coin which are mainly under top 3

please dont burn your money and then get crazy over things that didnt work well.

takecare of your investments and rethink in 2019 this might be just be over for bearmarket and we would jump into bull market soon but not all coins will perform the same.

[sarfield]

It is difficult to be accepted but this is the reality, and we learn for each coin for the investment we will choose. BCH is learning to be the best but still needs a process for that development. Let healthy competition always exist and this will be an interesting one to consider.

[hv_]

Nice tweet from Trace Mayer:

Would you rather have: ProofOfKeys or ProofOfRoger (MtGox)?

https://twitter.com/TraceMayer/status/1080641800967213056


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP1YsMlrfF0

ProofOfRoger  no no no

1 more day left for Proof of Keys event.
Interesting to see what will happen.
https://www.proofofkeys.com/

Ask yourself, why is name calling needed at all here? What does this proof?

Go and find out yourselve what tech is working and due to Bitcoin's honest purpose..

[jbreher]

BCash is having some extreme issues this sort of asset can fall to really new lowest because it cannot get any support from lightning network.

You need to rethink your assumptions. Bitcoin Cash -- neither ABC nor SV -- want anything to do with LN. However, if they did, it would be a simple matter to add support for 'Lightning Cash Network'. But what would be the point? What with LN currently unable to transact in anything more meaningful than a bumper sticker.

Roger Ver has been rejected for the support from the opennode

Support? You really do have a simplistic view of the world, don't you? Turns out Roger's offer of $1.25M USD (or whatever the sum) was insufficient for OpenNode to totally scrap their business plan, and revector entirely to a different infrastructure layer. Oh well.

this asset is next to 0

Especially funny given your username. Bitcoin Cash is not the market cap leader at the moment. But it certainly is not 'next to 0'. You know what it's next to? At #4, it is next to #3 -- XRP -- which really isn't even a cryptocurrency in the true definition of the word. So it's kind of next to #2 Ethereum - which having an unbounded supply, also fails the 'money' test. Which kind of makes it #2, which would be kind of next to Bitcoin Segwit.

You know what Bitcoin Cash is not 'next to'? Bitcoin Cash is not 'next to' Bitcoin Diamond, which seems destined to always be a fourth-rate also-ran.

roger ver has even sold most of the BCash

I would like to see evidence of that assertion. That is, if you're not just pulling shit out of your ass and throwing it. Just stop. It's unsanitary, and it just stinks up the place. Of course, that's obviously your intent.

[Odeoke]

Is the war has been over between ABC and SV? I converted my coins into ABC which looking more strong and now from last few days ABC is still head and in more strong position which is so relaxed for me.

[BTCIR]

It can still go either way.  It's a matter of time until we find this out.

[alevlaslo]

new year gift:

Snapshot at blockheight #563865 for $BCH successfully TAKEN https://mobile.twitter.com/BitcoinCashZero/status/1081237615553273857

[theymos]

It's amusing that grin is going to out-cash BCH, using real science instead of dumb parameter fiddling. grin can scale costlessly, and it's also reasonably private like physical cash.

In the far future, I see either a BTC-only ecosystem using various off-chain systems to scale (maybe a grin sidechain), or BTC as digital gold and grin as cash. But there's really no place for BCH's strictly inferior tech.

[Mrpumperitis]

^ is this another alt that has no unmoderated thread on Bitcointalk, so it was posted here instead lol

(wait it does have its own thread ...lol)

[nutildah]

roger ver has even sold most of the BCash

I would like to see evidence of that assertion. That is, if you're not just pulling shit out of your ass and throwing it. Just stop. It's unsanitary, and it just stinks up the place. Of course, that's obviously your intent.

Never stopped you, did it?? 

If anything I think Ver sold his BTC for BCH, as did CSW sell whatever BTC he had to buy SV. Both are now sitting on tremendous losses in their war for ego dominance. What a shitshow. There were no winners, only losers.

It's amusing that grin is going to out-cash BCH, using real science instead of dumb parameter fiddling. grin can scale costlessly, and it's also reasonably private like physical cash.

In the far future, I see either a BTC-only ecosystem using various off-chain systems to scale (maybe a grin sidechain), or BTC as digital gold and grin as cash. But there's really no place for BCH's strictly inferior tech.

[Notin2]

Damn! this thread is full of controversial post   the argument is endless in here, how long will this pointless argument go on for?
BCH came will huge bag of confusion, disagreement and argument
what is the point of trying to prove a point about a technology that pave the way for other egocentric project - BCH to exist ,
Blockchain is big enough to accommodate all sort no need to claim supreme or try to put another down simply because of personal selfish interest,
there is room for all to grow, no need to try and paint btc bad now, already to late for that