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8701  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Think Its One Too Many on: June 23, 2022, 05:02:01 AM
I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

Two things are very important here, firstly, when a casino is accused of fraud here in the forum by important members like DT, for me it is synonymous with respecting them and staying well away, for various reasons, there are people here who are dedicated to searching and hunt scammers, I don't know how in the world they still want to make money by harming others, but such a thing still exists and I think that's one of the reasons why humanity doesn't advance, and the other reason is that anyone has the freedom to put money wherever you want, if there is a reputation that speaks badly about any casino, you have to pay attention to what they say, it is not bad, it is for protection, especially for novices and those investors who do not know much about gambling and are entering.
8702  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: June 23, 2022, 03:45:16 AM
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Actually I am glad that Australia managed to qualify. This adds more diversity to the world cup, as Australia represents the Oceania continent (although technically they are part of the AFC). If New Zealand is able to defeat Costa Rica today, it will add more diversity to the world cup. Bad news for CONMEBOL and CONCACAF, but it is good to see teams like Australia and New Zealand playing in the world cup. BTW, Australia will be placed in a group alongside France, Danmark and Tunisia. Quite a tough one, if you ask me.

Costa Rica ended up winning against New Zealand, with an early but not beautiful goal. So Oceania will be represented by Australia only.

After watching the New Zealand vs Costa Rica match, they both look a bit weak to be honest. Not sure how much will Costa Rica advance in the world cup.

It's a shame, I couldn't see the match between Costa Rica vs New Zealand, New Zealand is a country that I have always wanted to know and I think it is also worthy of going to a World Cup, on the other hand Costa Rica has already been to a World Cup and they did not do so badly, what surprises me is that both the Peru vs Australia and the Costa Rica vs New Zealand games were classified as bad, boring, without contribution, without emotions, it is strange, for me these matches must be most exciting in the world! I mean, if I were a player there I would leave my soul, I would sweat that shirt like there is no idea, I don't see why they are boring, it's not like the playoff games when URUGUAY goes or any other team that comes out is to kill the riva, it's Well deserved for those who go, I hope that in the world cup they do a good job.

Only 5 months to go for the World Cup 2022!

The Qatar 2022 World Cup will start in November 21, and will end in December 18.

There are no more qualifications, every group is defined already, now we just wait to see what happens outside of the field. Things like selling beer in the stadiums is being played right now. Let's see how that will end up for Budweiser, who is the sponsor of the event.
I myself can't wait for the start of the world cup this time. because in my area football lovers will gather and watch together the world cup match which will be broadcast live on the big screen provided. what an exciting moment. there may be some while betting and drinking. and food vendors will also benefit from this world cup.
Well, the best of all this is that we will have a very exciting Christmas, this December will be very active, especially for those of us who like football, I hope that this World Cup will make a difference, Qatar is undoubtedly a country that never disappoints.
8703  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you Considered a Career in Betting Consultancy? on: June 23, 2022, 01:36:23 AM
I have never raised something like this, also because I am sincere and in my betting history there are more failures than achievements, and I consider that I would feel like being a professional if I handled an amount equal to or greater than $1M and that for me is practically impossible , I consider that a whale can give or offer this type of service, in addition the person or persons who want to be part of this service have to demand that they show them the history of their bets, and if the number of victories is greater than the number of failures I think that is enough, it is something like those who trade and show a millionaire's life in videos, I will never believe them because for me that is a cliché that only catches newbies to take their money with lies.
8704  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [CHESS] World Championship 2021: Carlsen Vs. Nepomniachtchi on: June 23, 2022, 12:53:28 AM

lately I feel that being able to master the finals is even more important then the openings, you can get along well with the same opening and the same defense until advanced levels, probably
but knowing how to go to the midgame and checkmate when the  board is almost empty is art!

The truth is that I'm very bad at finals, I'm good at openings and keeping the game in dominance, but when I see that they start to beat me a lot, I don't know, I don't have that ability to recover like the others have, I don't know. if it is that I get tired of thinking or simply how my plans are knocked down, I can't think of another way to get out of trouble, that is why when I play I try to dominate the whole game so that the end doesn't have to think much, there are others who they are experts, who even losing and entering the final stage are capable of turning the game around, I say this because it has happened to me and it really makes me very angry, although I end up accepting that this is part of the game, my anger is with myself.
8705  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io ⚽ São Paulo FC ⚽ Prediction Contest (Thursday) on: June 22, 2022, 10:09:28 PM
Game 1:  74' SPFC 0 - 3
8706  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io 🏒 NHL Stanley Cup Final 🏒 Tampa Bay vs Colorado 🏒 Game 4 on: June 22, 2022, 10:07:44 PM
A) Tampa Bay
B)  Over
C)  Yes
D)  Tampa Bay
E)  Tampa Bay
F)  Tampa Bay
G)  Colorado     
H)  10' 
8707  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io "UFC on ESPN 38 Multi Master Challenge" (Saturday) on: June 22, 2022, 10:06:48 PM
12) Arman Tsarukyan         
11) Shavkat Rakhmonov           
10) Josh Parisian
9) Thiago Moisés
Cool Umar Nurmagomedov           
7) Rodolfo Vieira
6) Carlos Ulberg
5) Shayilan Nuerdanbieke
4) Sergey Morozov           
3) JCody Durden           
2) Mario Bautista           
1) Vanessa Demopoulos

Total: 104
8708  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: June 22, 2022, 08:14:52 PM
Ronaldo can be appointed as the new captain of Manchester United, but he is not the best choice for long-term captain because his time with Manchester United is not long. Ten Hag should try to put faith in Ronaldo, as he is capable of leading his team-mates on the pitch and is very influential in the dressing room. De Gea can be trusted as vice-captain, when Ronaldo is not on the field, De Gea will take his place as captain.
 
That's true , Ronaldo will be good to be appointed the captain of Manchester United but since he won't be in the club for long it won't work out. Whosoever  Manchester United want to make the captain it should be one who will be able to do it well, a captain who can bring everyone along to strengthen the team, this will make them to perform very well at the end of every game.
I don't know if you remember, but when CR7 was at Real Madrid he wasn't very good at the title of Captain, because some claimed that what he wanted was to play and not get into trouble all the time (Being Captain is synonymous with fighting all the time with the referees) he is captain for Portugal because he is already an emblem and out of respect and because he is really representing his country, but when it comes to teams like clubs, I think he will run away from him, I don't know if now He has changed his position regarding that, maybe, but I think that is his way of thinking, a captain requires much more responsibility than any member of the team.

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in my opinion Arteta must be able to revive the winning mentality in each of the Arsenal players and maybe with bring in some experienced players who have leadership qualities that can be a solution for Arsenal next season.
It's tough and I can totally imagine it's really tough for Arsenal. 18 seasons not being able to win the Premier League title is a very bad end result for Arsenal. They may play well, but what does it mean if they can't win the title? Apart from just staying in the Premier League and having a good business from selling players, I don't know anymore what Arsenal's determination is to be in the Premier League every season in the last 18 seasons.
Surely it's a tough job and need some strong person to change this all as we have Liverpool after few decades they won their first title under Klopp which is great achievement for them after watching last season I have feeling Arteta is also person which can bring some great changes, and he is already doing his work which can give good dividend to Arsenal recently they added few very good and quality players which is surely going to give some strength.

Arteta need some strong back from management for having success like Liverpool in this season we have good change in them, and now they are spending good amount which is surely going to give big changes and this is good for Premier League as we have too many strong teams at top.
What happens is that Liverpool also cooks with Salah, and even if things did not go well against Real Madrid, but they have a winning mentality, or they would say a very high self -esteem and this is what makes Arsenal lack.
8709  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 (September 17) on: June 22, 2022, 05:41:30 PM
I'd say the first match is more controversial rather than the second, I watched the replay and see GGG should won on the first match, but the judges make it as a draw. Imagine GGG was won the first fight and Canelo was won the second fight, the trilogy will be interesting. No offense to GGG, but Canelo will win.
According to GGG the second fight was more dominant for his victory but he was disappointed with the jury decision, so in the trilogy fight then GGG hoped for an absolute victory, but Canelo is now a strong opponent since the second fight finished and Canelo has dominated many matches with a proud victory, so the fight The trilogy is a fierce battle to determine which of the two is more deserving of the real victory.

I watched the first match live and I will tell you this - there was no chance that the match ended as a draw. GGG couldn't win the match only because of some horrendous scoring from Adalaide Byrd. This individual just stole the match from GGG. I will tell you this - I have watched dozens of boxing matches and this is the worst incident of scoring that I have ever seen. The second match are more like a draw and third party observers were split in their scoring. But once again, the jury sided with Canelo and awarded him the match. So many years have passed.. and I still feel bad when I look back. Hopefully this time, we will get a clear winner and the controversy will be put down once and for all.

The fight really has a lot of discussion, from the point of view of the bvoxeo that the best boxer seeks to have control and the other point of view (which for me damages everything) is when they go to the technical aspect and let the fighters enter the fight. judges, trusting the judgment of a judge in boxing is currently something that has to be considered, because even in the Olympics it was shamelessly seen how the judges made a boxer who was from home win and practically took out the best, damaging the future of the boxer and going over the preparation of years, this is a lack of respect, now, with these fights it is much easier for them to intervene to bias.
8710  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 22, 2022, 04:56:31 PM
Dani Alves was very worried for his future in Barcelona because his contract will be ended at the end of this month but until now Barcelona still hasn't offering him new contract however Dani Alves arrived to help this team while Barcelona had a hard time and admitted or not he loved this team so i think he deserved to get new contract for at least one year and i know he hasn't in his prime age anymore but he can used as substitutions player because i think his performance still decent to play in LaLiga
What happened to Marcelo at Real Madrid happens to Dani Alves, only out of heart they will not admit these players, they are players who still have a lot to give, but the mentality of these teams that are "big" prefer to let them go and not offer them a contract if they don't prefer young players who are famous and trending at the moment, I think that is a vision that these teams have, I would appeal to hire them even so that they help advise young players, because the experience they they've had can't be put aside, and in games that are very important and difficult you need to have the mentality of these experienced players.

Barcelona star, Memphis Depay is presently in Ghana spending his holiday. He's helping the less privilege in Ghana and have seen the Ghana club, Asante Kotoko. It's really a nice stuff he's doing over there. It's not an easy work for a player of his standard to stoop low to visit an African country and providing financial aide to the country.  The Dutch player visits Ghana on a regular base and also provide social amenities for the communities he visited. Perhaps his father is a Ghanaian, that's the reason he's giving a helping hand to his roots.
That is a great gesture by him, and yes, the important thing is to do this heart, no matter if his father is Ghanaian, the important thing is that it can be an incentive for the most needed, in addition social programs even if it seems incredible Fill a lot to a person, seeing that you are making many people happy is something very rewarding.
8711  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is it so hard to win at gambling? on: June 22, 2022, 03:56:43 PM
Hello good day to all the members in this forum, Did you know that even if you win at gambling, you lose as well? Don't you think that's how it happened? and that’s the thing that I'd like to tackle about this topic, Because it’s hard to win at gambling, now if you want to know why?

The fact is that the house always has a basic advantage over the players, in addition, there is not a single really successful game strategy in practice. In addition, our craving for excitement and the inability to stop at the right moment is another additional trump card of the house.
In the end, the house will always win a large amount of money even though some gamblers can win some money, too but still cannot beat the amount of money the house gets.
Maybe if we can win, we need to calculate how much money we have spent to get that win and how often we can win that amount of money.
That way, we can see and calculate how likely we are to win the money next time and if we can be wise, we will always try to control our spending.
This is what we as gamblers need to realize so that we don't really lose in gambling but just want to have fun playing gambling.
It's true, we must always clarify that the house will always have the advantage, that we are fighting against that advantage and apart from the advantage that it can have within the same game, sometimes the games that can favor us are the PVP and yet the which is random, and that is already something that is impossible to fight, however some people in games like poker can attest that strategies are very valuable, strategies can work if and only if you play in PVP mode and in a tournament, I think this is something that we all have to face, and the casinos know it, also the other possibility that a person can win more is with sports betting, because there is no way, the result is what it is and that's it.
8712  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Japanese man gambled away a huge Covid-19 relief funds mistakenly sent to him on: June 22, 2022, 03:03:11 PM
just as the title states, a man in Japan mistakenly sent 46.3m yen to his bank account which was supposed to be shared among 436 people in their town. the article says that the man gambled away the money by withdrawing 600k yen daily for two weeks and gambles it in online casinos and when the authority finally contacted him the money has already been gambled and gone. initially the man refuse to pay back the money that was mistakenly sent to him but after some time he decided to pay it back bit by bit. the town is also suing him for this incident.

you can read the full story here
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61490436

now, I have a question, do you think the man is entirely at fault or someone should also be responsible?
This is a case where I am inclined because the man was not to blame, well he was to blame for betting and losing what he lost, but I am in favor of something, if a person receives money, that money is already of that person, the error was on the part of the person who sent it, when the money enters a person's bank account, I see it as entering private property, no one has the right to enter without the full consent of the person who owns it, In this case, he had the decency to return all the money, which I admire, but I think he did it because he is a very correct and ethical person, but in the case that he had been a person who did not work or have any income, how would he have done it? done then? pay with jail? I do not think so.
8713  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: June 22, 2022, 05:54:44 AM
Clever Costa Rica because at the beginning of match they can utilized the weakness of New Zealand defense and score goal and after that Costa Rica defense was playing well because until second half there is no good attempts to score goals from New Zealand and seems New Zealand situation became so difficult for them after Barbarouses get red card and after final whistle ended the score hasn't change 1-0 for Costa Rica and after this result they has filled last spot for world cup tournament

I really agree with what you describe, really Costa Rica is a team that surprises me, I don't know if you remember the very famous player from Costa Rica called Wanchope, he was a striker and he really was an exceptional player, he made the difference and When Costa Rica went to the World Cup for the first time, that player always had many fans, I really hope to see one more Wanchope in this World Cup, however I could only see the summary of this game, I would have liked to see New Zealand in the same way in the World Cup, but here only the best wins, as happened with the case of Peru and AUSTRALIA, really Australia is a team that can give us surprises in the World Cup.

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Germany is one of the best teams in this group. But Germany have already won the World Cup trophy several times. In the group that Germany is in, I think there is no doubt that Germany will win all the matches from this group and they will qualify in the next round as the group champion.
I think, Germany is in good position to win this season trophy because their players are fully prepared to defeat any team in this tournament to embrace victory at the end of the tournament. Based on what Germany players demonstrated in their past matches showed that they will definitely win their remaining matches to prove to their country that they have what it takes to win this season title by using 2014 strategies to win this season title because the strategies really helped Germany to won 2014 trophy.

The German team is quite strong. And they have a number of star players in their squad. Germany has a good chance of winning the title if the players of the team can play consistently well. Germany has experienced players like Thomas Muller and Warner. Although Warner has a bad record, he is experienced enough. Germany is also strong enough in defense and midfield.
That is correct - Germans are good. They are strong and surly they have good defence too.
But one thing is for sure - those teams which reaches to final are the best of best. But they lucky one wins that days. The good teams have to be lucky as well.

But finally I can say that the Germans are very strong when it comes to playing football, they are people who have an exquisite technique in football, I think that this World Cup Germany can become the protagonist, and they can lead the way as they have always done I would like to see how Portugal will perform, since it cost them a little more to qualify, it is a pity not to see Sweden with Ibrahimovic.
8714  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: June 22, 2022, 05:25:08 AM

I remember there was a time when bitcoin was cheaper each RP priced more than 1 satoshi, although I don't remember exactly the maximum ratio it has reached. Once bitcoin became too expensive the ratio was fixed in 1:1.

I also remember that time but I think it dates back from 2018; the highest I have known it was 1 RP equalled 2 satoshis. So unless the BTC price keeps crashing and would stabilize at around 5000$ or lower, I doubt the ratio RP to satoshi will be changed.
I can't imagine how regret it would be if users kept saving it when the RP rate was 1RP = 2 Satoshi and now it's 1:1. That's why if it reaches 100K I prefer to directly exchange it to satoshi because it is not impossible for freebitcoin to lower the exchange rate so that the value of the RP will be cheaper, to adjustable their business expenses.
I remember that time and it was spectacular, I have been on freebitco.in since 2017 and not only that was good, the faucet was also something spectacular, also with only the faucet claiming every hour you could play in the multiplier quite a lot, of course in At that time I remember having accumulated a lot by giving the roll, and then the deposits of 1mBTC was enough to increase the balance and have good profits, the RP and some other things like the bonus if a certain amount was bet, it would put the roll higher, these things they were very good, at that time the btc was at a price of $10k-$12k, then over time specifically in the months the price rose to almost $20k.

For me today is the luckiest day so far in Freebitco.in with just 20 spins I won 50 GT tickets,I got enthusiastic and bought near 100.000 lottery tickets to give a try for the weekly lottery meanwhile the GT-s add up to 68 in total which is not a bad number at all.Looks like today is the day for me here  Grin.



Wow this really is what I call having very good luck, I congratulate you friend, here at freebitco.in the chances of winning are always open and with that golden tickets you can have more chances of winning. congratz.
8715  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ SicoDice.com⭐ 200% Deposit Bonuses 2% House Edge ⭐High Faucet ⭐Daily Contests on: June 22, 2022, 04:41:54 AM
I think the site is very good, apart from that I am surprised that they still have a fixed faucet, and I admire their ability to detect cheaters, very few casinos have the ability to have a faucet where users use them to play , in fact, the platform that does this is still freebitco.in and they have control over the price of BTC, and thus they do not abuse the system, of course, it should be noted that this platform has been in this field for many years, and they have grown so much that They offer sports betting and make millionaire contests even with Lambo and everything, that's where you see that the platforms when they do things well, they do well, and I see that this one is on the right track.
8716  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can a new sportsbook gain trust? on: June 22, 2022, 04:11:42 AM
There is no big deal in gaining trust as long as your sportsbook remains honest with their users. It’s simple trust formula, you give us trusted ecosystem we play and enjoy. Considering other factors, you should have amazing staff support, huge publicity and social network presence which can create enthusiasm between the players and then mouth to mouth publicity also starts. That’s slow and steady process but I have already seen small casinos becoming the mega rollers around the forum. Go for it with proper roadmap and keep entertained audience to gain the trust.

It's a big deal for me, even if a gambling site claimed that they are honest but without the feedback of the people I would still hesitate to gamble on a certain site. The thing is, they build their reputation so they'll become popular as that's the best recipe in order for them to be successful.
That is why many of us above says this needs time , People must learn first to try this site and understand their behavior for the players .

Some uses money for better outcome on how? by conducting many events, advertising and even give away.

so never just deposit instead wait for some good feedbacks before playing .
Whenever there's a new gambling site or bookies then the first thing i would do is to wait up for some valid feedbacks or real time experiences from other users which would really be my main basis

whether i would really make out some deposits or not because once i do see some issues or problems within this area then i would simply halt out my plans and look for another one.

As a new platform its really hard to get community trust and as a business owner then this would or should be you primary goal.
Yes, it is true, although sometimes there are more possibilities of being able to do our own research, even being there and putting our own money to test the sites is a risk that is sometimes taken, but you have a unique experience and with the bases and necessary arguments to say if the site is legitimate or not, for me it must comply with the most common standards, the most basic and they are deposit and withdrawal, that as a first option, we can also observe other characteristics, if in fact the game is fair or no, how much percentage of advantage does the house have, how much is their traffic, when they are new sites their lack of traffic is evident, however it can be taken with a good marketing regimen.
8717  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲 StarBets.io 🎲 || A Crypto-based iGaming Platform 🎲 on: June 22, 2022, 03:39:57 AM
The truth is that the prize for the 50,000 TRX is very interesting, the platform is actually quite fast, at least for me it runs excellently on my PC, I must say that my favorite game for now is slots, but I have been playing more look at the site and I like their games, they all have something that catches my attention, the truth is that their environment is very good, understandable and friendly, I think that they can improve every time, in the case of stake.com they make live presentations For all the players, I think this is an excellent way to attract players, I would like to see this initiative here, anyway it is just a suggestion for them to keep growing.
8718  Economy / Gambling / Re: Question for regular casino players. Will you use Lightning if available? on: June 22, 2022, 03:02:18 AM
My answer is yes I will gladly use the lightning network on gambling if that is allowed, that will make my transaction fast with lesser fees. this will be a good development to see gambling using a lighting network to process player transactions.

Whenever we are going to make a deposit in a casino we see the options to spend less fee, one of them is to use other cryptocurrencies, such as trx, ada, among others, because we always want to pay less to use that money in the casino, however when we put money in BTC it is more difficult, both to leave an exchange and sometimes to enter a platform, there is always an associated fee that is considerable, however now with the price of BTC that is not so low it may be something that It doesn't stick so much, but in context if it has something of value, if BTC when it was worth almost $70k a BTC fee was quite strong, for my LN it is the perfect solution, especially for players who only use BTC.
8719  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: June 22, 2022, 01:22:23 AM
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But at least you are not a competition against high roller rank.

The good thing about "BK8" is how their Leaderboard Contest. They spread the rank and game, so example your rank is Bronze you will compete against Bronze member while most casinos don't filter the user based on their rank and game.
What I see from the advantages of BK8 casino is that they make equal opponents so the level of fairness looks so transparent. The concept of applying this filter is clearly very effective, bronze against bronze, platinum also with platinum so there is no reason for users to complain about the higher Competitors.

I did not notice that there is such filter in BK8, if it is true then it is basically a nice feature and I can say that it is the first time I hear about filtering in house competition based on user's level. Perhaps it is also the only site that has this feature since I've played in various site but I've never seen similar implementation for the competition.
I really think that BK8 with that filter system is something spectacular, with that there is equality between ranges, there is no advantage for anyone, this makes it unique, how long has it been working like this? really for players who are not whales they always somehow complain about the sites that there are many whales, they say that their chances of being able to have a hope of winning vanishes because they cannot participate against the big whales, and in part they are right, however, with this system everything is fairer and so those who go up the Silver, GOLD hierarchy will be under the same measuring instrument.
8720  Economy / Gambling / Re: I miss the old OnChain gambling on: June 22, 2022, 12:46:58 AM
And with the current situation in gambling, players are more comfortable in centralized casinos.
It seems that they are not attracted with the onchain gambling these days.
There are benefits with onchain but in this today's situation, I don't think they will patronize onchain.
There are features in centralized casinos that gamblers want, even if some of them are asking kyc.
Maybe, because they are trusting these casinos because most of them have licensed to operate.
At least, an organization is looking after them, even if we say, very rare occasion that you truly see a casino sued by a player.
I don`t sure that it is so. The DeFi support by the common users grows up everyday. And the same situation in the gambling. The classic casinos will lose clients or they need to include some features that makes possible to choose what do you prefer - old style or modern.
I think that if we can compare percent of gamblers in classic casino now and a year later - it will grow down.

I agree that most people prefer centralized casinos because they believe that there is more security with their money, however there are many more ways to be able to trust with KYC, I know that the KYC requirement is enough for some, especially for those who love privacy and anonymity, normally many take care not to leave their data on any platform, because their data can be vulnerable and easily shared in the face of any attack or hacking, but not everything is bad, the fact of doing a KYC allows to the casino to have its good license and apart from providing good protection to them. In any case, we cannot close the doors to the new, although for many it turns out to be: "what is known is safer than what is new to be known."
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