I would like to be a Chinese-English translator to get the information about mining-industry in China, especially about Asicminer. Donation are welcome  Would the donations be for language lessons? Wo buda hui shuo niminde hwa  |
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I meant if they were 18, but since everyone wants to be assholes and chastise instead of help...
Here's the next help I offer anyone in here:
The pessimistic, troll-infested, non-helping, bash-box is all yours, enjoy.
Your offer of help is reminiscent of my KNC refund. I may have to hop a flight to Sweden and protest outside of headquarters soon. Anybody want to say how long they've been waiting?  |
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The other 6 PCI-e cables included with that particular PSU are 18AWG and NOT useful for connecting to your Neptune.
This is why Tulip_wanna_be does not recommend the AX1200i PSU.
Rather than fighting over the details, why not cooperate with one another so that we can all live in safe and fire-proofed dwellings?
So, photograph the other 6 PCI-e cables that came with your PSU and let us see if they also have 16AWG wiring (or not). That would be helpful.
If they do have 16AWG I will personally write a rant about Two_lips spreading misinformation.
No need, covered it ages ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg7508465#msg7508465You clearly don't need five cables with your AX1200i because you will need more than one (ideally three) anyway. With two cubes per AX1200i I'm getting very good efficiency and 100% stability to date; not to mention OCP which may very well prevent my house burning down given this KfC "design". This guy recommends AX1200i with splitter cables; you should be using splitter cables anyway since I have seen those EVGA boxes without OCP melt PCI-e plugs at the PSU end. u27 Thanks! Still a little argumentative but more informative |
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I am using the 16AWG cables that came with the AX1200i; the fault is clearly with the KnC "design" and not the cables.
What makes you think the AX1200i comes with 16AWG cables? I've never seen one with anything other than "type3" 18AWG cables. I've seen quite a few of them as well. I've also had them melt/smoke/burn spectacularly: http://imgur.com/a/UUpEGditto.... the 1200i's we have all have 18awg, while the regular ax1200's we have all have 16awg. The "i" must stand for "inferior" "Need to know" Basics... Plugging in the pci cable fully can be tricky, as most of the cubes have the pcb mounted about 1mm too low, and the plug tends to catch on the bottom of the hole in the cube. In order to get them to fully plug in FULLY, you must slightly LIFT UP and push in on the pci plug after it first gets a bite for it to fully slide into the plug socket. If you miss it, and it fails to fully latch, it may indeed melt; especially if your psu employs 16awg wires. Seeing a single wire on the pci plug begin the meltdown is a sure sign of a poor connection... and if you use a dab of conductive grease on each pci connection, it will also help make good contact, and avoid all this. power delivery is 95% on these imho Plugging and unplugging the pci plugs too much or not gentile can also quickly loosen the connections. I am always impressed with how civil and polite tolip is with regards to you guys. You say "especially if your psu employs 16awg wires" so are you running 14AWG? You are arrogant and wrong wrong (as usual)... I understand that reading is not your strong suit but here is a photo of one of my AX1200i PCI-e cables:  ...and now with zoom:  You can't argue with this photographic evidence but I look forward to seeing you try. u27 I will argue with your photographic evidence. Nice crotch shot by the way... You didn't show us ALL of the cables that came with your PSU and while you DO get 2 ( but only 2) cables that have 8-pin connectors on one end and 2X 6-pin AS WELL AS 16AWG wiring, you need 5 to get your Neptune running. The other 6 PCI-e cables included with that particular PSU are 18AWG and NOT useful for connecting to your Neptune. This is why Tulip_wanna_be does not recommend the AX1200i PSU. Rather than fighting over the details, why not cooperate with one another so that we can all live in safe and fire-proofed dwellings? So, photograph the other 6 PCI-e cables that came with your PSU and let us see if they also have 16AWG wiring ( or not). That would be helpful. If they do have 16AWG I will personally write a rant about Two_lips spreading misinformation. Thanks |
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I'm going to assume the TSMC news is fake?
It was fake. You can see the value of TSMC here and also news about it - http://goo.gl/1IB0Fo |
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this pic was posted a while ago.
iirc the guy with the red shirt is fc.
THANK YOU! Much appreciated. No, that is Rockminer. I thought friedcat was the one with his pants rolled up. No that's just the guy who sets up the immersion cooling rigs! |
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The threats were against Yifu (Avalon), not FC. And that was just a stalling tactic by Yifu since he double-sold chips and people were pissed.
Some have seen FC on a very early Skype call, I think. No photos that I know of, but I might be wrong. There is a photo floating around of rockxie (RockMiner) that some people confused with FC but it wasn't really FC.
 This photo is purported to be Sam Cole, BFL_Josh, Friedcat and Yifu. Are you suggesting that Sonny Vleisides is Friedcat? No. You need to look up the work "purported". I haven't seen an image of Friedcat or Sonny. Are you suggesting that the purported photo of Friedcat is actually Sonny? well whoever is 'purpoting' that pic has friedcat in is either trolling or mentally deficient. fc is skinny, wears glasses and shock horror..asian, if you don't beleive phinneus' suggestions you can copy the name into google, just a few seconds later you will have some confirmation . the internet truly is a wonderful thing Who the hell is phinneus? Anyway, I was being facetious. As for the internet... it sure is isn't it: https://forum.btcsec.com/index.php?/topic/2036-foto-razrabotchikov-asic-mainerov/page-2Now shut down your computer and retire from the interwebz, you fail big. I knew I was too old to figure out this interspace dot com thingy... |
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this pic was posted a while ago. iirc the guy with the red shirt is fc.  THANK YOU! Much appreciated. No, that is Rockminer. my bad, i just saved the pic last august and some user said it is him. nevermind. Well, you made me laugh now anyway. One would think a simple internet search would turn up all the information we need... After all it is purported (by AnotherAnonlol) to be a wonderful thing. |
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this pic was posted a while ago. iirc the guy with the red shirt is fc. THANK YOU! Much appreciated. |
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The threats were against Yifu (Avalon), not FC. And that was just a stalling tactic by Yifu since he double-sold chips and people were pissed.
Some have seen FC on a very early Skype call, I think. No photos that I know of, but I might be wrong. There is a photo floating around of rockxie (RockMiner) that some people confused with FC but it wasn't really FC.
This photo is purported to be Sam Cole, BFL_Josh, Friedcat and Yifu. Are you suggesting that Sonny Vleisides is Friedcat? No. You need to look up the work "purported". I haven't seen an image of Friedcat or Sonny. Are you suggesting that the purported photo of Friedcat is actually Sonny? well whoever is 'purpoting' that pic has friedcat in is either trolling or mentally deficient. fc is skinny, wears glasses and shock horror..asian, if you don't beleive phinneus' suggestions you can copy the name into google, just a few seconds later you will have some confirmation . the internet truly is a wonderful thing Who the hell is phinneus? Anyway, I was being facetious. As for the internet... it sure is isn't it: https://forum.btcsec.com/index.php?/topic/2036-foto-razrabotchikov-asic-mainerov/page-2 |
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The long and short of it is that AM is switching from self mining to chip sales. It is hard to adequately summarize the last... 500 pages of this thread, but this change in AM's model along with holding profits for re-investment is what is likely the cause. August 2nd should provide us with more answers, I would stay away from speculation and just wait till then for more info.
Ah. I see thanks. I'll make a note of this date. So far I have 0.045 BTC for a 1.24 BTC investment. Not good. Actually, your 1.24 BTC investment is bidding at ~0.65 BTC so your return is actually double what you thought as a percentage |
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The threats were against Yifu (Avalon), not FC. And that was just a stalling tactic by Yifu since he double-sold chips and people were pissed.
Some have seen FC on a very early Skype call, I think. No photos that I know of, but I might be wrong. There is a photo floating around of rockxie (RockMiner) that some people confused with FC but it wasn't really FC.
This photo is purported to be Sam Cole, BFL_Josh, Friedcat and Yifu. Are you suggesting that Sonny Vleisides is Friedcat? No. You need to look up the work "purported". I haven't seen an image of Friedcat or Sonny. Are you suggesting that the purported photo of Friedcat is actually Sonny? |
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The threats were against Yifu (Avalon), not FC. And that was just a stalling tactic by Yifu since he double-sold chips and people were pissed.
Some have seen FC on a very early Skype call, I think. No photos that I know of, but I might be wrong. There is a photo floating around of rockxie (RockMiner) that some people confused with FC but it wasn't really FC.
This photo is purported to be Sam Cole, BFL_Josh, Friedcat and Yifu. |
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AFox, did you file in Sweden? How long did the whole process take?
I hired a lawyer in my country (France) specialized in European law. It took two weeks. I don't know how the lawyer did it. He just asked for the invoice from KNC, my IBAN (account informations) and my identity card. The interesting thing, is that I paid in BTC, but KNC issued me an invoice in USD and paid me back by bank transfer in USD. So you basically made money? Paid 11 btc or so, and got $10,000 back (which would buy 16.6 btc now)? Brilliant, instead of buying a machine that makes bitcoin, you invented a refund process that makes even MORE bitcoing the machine. No he did not make money. He paid $10k and got back his $10k in another form. Not true. He bought a machine that produces bitcoin not dollars (and he bought it with btc). His refund of the machine produced 5.6 BTC more than he paid. His refund produced 3x more bitcoin than the machine will over its life. He did a great trade. All right, I give. He's as sly as AFox. Wouldn't it have been easier to sell the BTC when it was worth $1200 and buy it back at $600? You know, cut out the middleman, the lawyers, the stress etc... |
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AFox, did you file in Sweden? How long did the whole process take?
I hired a lawyer in my country (France) specialized in European law. It took two weeks. I don't know how the lawyer did it. He just asked for the invoice from KNC, my IBAN (account informations) and my identity card. The interesting thing, is that I paid in BTC, but KNC issued me an invoice in USD and paid me back by bank transfer in USD. So you basically made money? Paid 11 btc or so, and got $10,000 back (which would buy 16.6 btc now)? Brilliant, instead of buying a machine that makes bitcoin, you invented a refund process that makes even MORE bitcoing the machine. No he did not make money. He paid $10k and got back his $10k in another form. |
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That is just 2 R3s wrapped in metal. Multiply the R3 specs by 2 to get the specs. I sent an e-mail to Rockminer about the specs on the R4 because while the specs were incomplete (or non-existent), they were reported as having 96 BE200 chips in them. The reply stated that someone else would answer that question and after a couple more days with no reply, I went back to the site and saw it had been corrected to 48 BE200 chips. So in reality, it is NOT 2 R3s wrapped in metal. It is one R3 wrapped in metal. |
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I'm weeks into an RMA for two cubes and a controller card that didn't function. I finally received the controller card but absolutely no news on the cubes.
I'm getting the same crap from KfC; not as bad as you but I have a dead die on a cube so it's running at 75% speed. KfC admitted that it's not working properly but refuse to do anything because they say the malfunctioning machine is over 3TH anyway. I'm now planning to dump it in my buddies Novec and see if I can kick it into action with massive over voltage. So I'm not really going to agree with "Terrible early yields" just because our dreams of a 6th/s Neptune didn't come true...
Yeild, as in number of usable chips out of the number on the wafer... not the speed of the chips that do work. you might find your posts being deleted, proving him dense like that. watch how quick mine keep getting duh-leted nothing to do with that... seriously.... Here I thought it was you because mine were deleted ...  user27... yeah it looks like they did no binning  I don't believe they would have skipped that step after fabbing "an industry-first" 20nm ASCI chip. That would have been downright negligent. More likely the binning was done and most of the chips ended up in the bin. |
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Points taken...
Fact remains... if they hadn't had to re-submit the code, Neppies would have been ready sooner.
That's an assumption, not a fact. Okay, fair enough... For those of you running a shitload of miners, and going long term, this will help.... http://www.galco.com/circuit/harmon.htm Good find Phoenix. Not only will it save a bit of money but it should prolong the useful life of the miners by making them slightly more energy efficient. |
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That is just 2 R3s wrapped in metal. Multiply the R3 specs by 2 to get the specs. |
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Many accurately predicted delivery date exactly including what appears to be a pause. Few predicted accurately at the time, future diff. We were, all of us in this thread, equally informed of their calculations and invited to do our own. In fact we were re-reminded more than once. Still got your homework? How many were graded incomplete? Of the accurate diff predictors, fewer still that also ordered Nep in the first place. My recollection is that 'last second 1 box shipped @ 3.001T' was the consensus. YMMV  I think a great many were hoping for a surprise. It didn't happen. Hopefully the Neptoon penta-miner can be run at a higher rate than shipped. |
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