You mean would negate that. There is no guarantee it will be higher 

Though I do believe value will continue to rise.

You should be using stratum to the server and stratum to the proxy rather than getwork to the proxy.

Thanks, I guess 

I see nothing has changed while I was away... not that I expected anything more  . Fortunately, I predicted well that 2.10.4 would be a cracker release and it has lived up to my expectations.

Yes Kano we know, enough already... wait till hardware materialises and then we'll see.

Don't underestimate the amount of inertia on the part of miners. A large chunk of miners simply start mining and once everything is working they never touch it again till it breaks.

In the larger world of linux kernel development for example, when developing original novel code for new hardware all we need to do is ask the manufacturers nicely for some sample hardware and provided the developer is a known developer for code in the past they are often given samples of hardware that isn't even available for sale yet. This is always going on with the manufacturing from Intel, AMD, IBM etc. They are aware that having software available for their hardware is only beneficial to their hardware sales and the cost of sponsoring the software development directly versus giving away a few hardware samples is a simple equation that works in their favour. Indeed the developers are often invited to pre-release talks from the manufacturers regarding the hardware development and their input valued and can often change hardware development direction before release because these are the people who know what they're talking about and the manufacturers realised this long ago. Great hardware is only ever made when the software developers are involved in the development process and the software that goes with it is shipped at the same time.

Thinking us software developers just want "freebies" is just a short sighted view of the world. It's only on this round of bitcoin hardware development (with ASICs) that the manufacturers have even begun to embrace what the massive manufacturers have been doing for years, and not remotely on the scale that Intel and AMD would since we're largely in the dark about the hardware and communication protocols until virtually the release date. Of course the scale, timelines and profit margins are completely different, but the variables remain the same.

EDIT: Trust me, you don't want to actually contract me to do software work. It's prohibitively expensive - just ask coinlab who did contract me. Or, you can rely on me coding free software instead.

Jeff Garzik was the original author of minerd which evolved into cgminer which I now maintain. There are most definitely still remnants of his original code still in cgminer today which is GPL licensed. Given that fact, I think it highly likely he will have an interest in making sure the code for a customised cgminer for avalon hardware is made available. I very much doubt given Jeff's history with free software that he will just ask for the code and just look at it himself without making it available for everyone else.

Yes that's right. It's largely of historical value when the getwork protocol was often the rate limiting step and means less and less with both stratum and variable difficulty.

No, these are now "diff hoppers", people on the brink of profitability who wait for the diff to drop, then mine until the diff rises, then stop. They did so numerous times on the LTC chain which changes more frequently, but they're doing it now to the BTC chain.

#define CL_OUT_OF_RESOURCES                         -5

Some driver and/or device problem and the new cgminer version was purely coincidental. Reboot, reinstall drivers etc...

No crazyates, you understand perfectly well. Value going up will bring more mining, but the reverse is not true - more mining will not increase the currency's value. Trade, transactions and perceived value based on those determines the price of the currency. Far too many people in the bitcoin community are here purely because of mining and are totally detached from the concept that it's a cryptocurrency trade system we're trying to create here, and are only focused on mining profit. The best thing the miners can do to increase the value of their chosen currency is to start offering services or products with that currency to encourage trade in it instead of just concentrating on mining. As the profit margins of LTC mining whittle away the reality will eventually dawn on them, and people will switch off mining hardware for LTC as well. One could always have a belief that long term the value of their currency will eventually rise and then go on mining at a borderline loss, seeing it as some kind of long term investment. But then you could do the same with BTC too, since its price could also rise much more. Despite that, there is clear evidence that people invest in mining hardware and turn it on when price rises, and sell hardware and turn it off when price falls.

Thought I'd give you all a heads up warning.

I'll be away overseas, enjoying Japan from the 5th to the 23rd of January.... While this is the time frame that perhaps one of the first ASICs comes into existence, the fact is that I really couldn't care less while travelling. Thus I wish to inform you that my right hand man, Kano(i), will be the only person around who will be producing officially sanctioned cgminer code while I'm away. So if and when the hardware does appear, and you wish to use cgminer to mine on that hardware, please use source and/or binaries provided by him.

There are hundreds of pages of forum entries outlining his behaviour, not just to me, but to the whole bitcoin community at large. Do you really need me to elaborate?

Here's a vague reminder that didn't even involve me:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62037.0

I can save you the trouble of waiting for him to answer. Whenever there's a valid objection to his actions or claims his response is "it's not true" and/or "you're just trolling", and whenever there's a valid question asked of him where he doesn't like the answer, he never responds since he never says he's wrong. If you say something that might involve him being shown to be a liar, he gets a mod to delete your post.

Pool issues. I know ozcoin has had issues with its getwork pools lately, but I have no idea about coinlab.

Don't forget that by default, there is a fee attached to mining with p2pool unless you disable it. I'm not advocating or passing judgement on that fact, just pointing out that people seem to forget or not even know the fee is there.

There is nothing about stratum support that precludes mining on regular getwork pools. If they support both getwork and stratum and they specify the stratum header, cgminer will automatically switch to stratum, unless you add the "--fix-protocol" option. But if the pool does not support stratum, like coinlab, it will just use getwork.

The usb on rpi is known to be really flaky. The addition of a powered usb hub usually fixes most problems as it acts as a usb filter as well as running more usb devices better.

It's still supposed to work with older curls. Somewhere it is thinking you have a later version installed which you don't. Anyway I usually install libcurl4-openssl-dev