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8721  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin growth trend on: November 25, 2017, 10:28:05 AM
It seems to me that bitcoin could reach 10K by the end of December, but after that it drops to 5K. IMHO

Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Ok I agree with the bunch of shitposts in this thread that bitcoin price is being pumped at this time of the year because its close to Christmas now and people are buying bitcoin for future trading and hence price is crossing 8.5k USD. But where are you getting this idea that it will drop after this? There may be a dump but that dump is never strong enough to bring it down back to 5k obviously.

I think that's the great news about bitcoin if he can reach 8k this month maybe this next month he can also reach 10k, it is really possible that can happen maybe I have to double my work to earn a bunch of bitcoin in the next year.

I think the work you do pays in fiat and not bitcoin? 99% of work - in this forum tends to be signature spamming as seen in this thread.
8722  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Suggestions for trading on: November 25, 2017, 10:22:27 AM
Hi guys, what is the best coin for trading . Give me your suggestions Smiley
I think everyone has their own best coins so I suggest you to find your own best coin. and I think the best coins for trading are coins that have high volume in the market.

Not every coin which has high volume is "trade-worthy" or say profitable. A high volume does indicate that even if the price falls in future there may not be a continuous dip but soon the price will rise. It makes the coin good for hodling and keeping aside from day-trading. On the other hand those coins which fluctuate a lot in price are worth buying in smaller volumes and sell at the next pump. They are good for day-trading.

I think the cheap coin with huge volume is the best coin for trading. It will help you easy to buy and sell.
A cheap coin with a huge volume is not always good to trade. Again the important thing is to check the team and the goals of the coin before buying it.
8723  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Important for those who have trading TOKEN on future. "Just be careful" on: November 24, 2017, 08:19:17 AM
In the past there have been some similar scamming attempts with this EDO token. It seems that the person in this scam was not actually looking for a loan but was trying to sell their collateral. This is a type of scam often seen in the lending section of the forum. I would personally never accept any newly released ethereum token as a collateral but only stable renowned altcoins.

Sorry for the loss but would have been better if the OP could provide the screenshots of the skype conversations, the scammers bitcointalk profile and then the DT members could take proper steps against this person as well.
8724  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which is more profitable trading sites or mining sites and why?? on: November 24, 2017, 08:14:26 AM
Don't use mining websites, they're not doing mining, they're like HYIPs. If you're interested in mining, do it on your own.

Honestly I would agree and disagree to you at the same time. I agree that HYIPs are very attractive to newbies (who are their prime targets) and they end up losing their money in the process of the scam. Again a mining rig may not be cost effective for everyone. There a lot of costs associated with it and they may not be always profitable. So research on mining is important and the ROI must be considered if they are mining on their own.

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With trading websites, I think you mean exchange platforms such as Bittrex, Binance, HitBTC etc. You better start trading after learning it well
Trading should be done once a person has got enough of a captial of bitcoin and some altcoins and have learnt about it properly. Be careful of pump and dump schemes and stay away from the "trollboxes" of the exchange sites. That is the place for all shills of the world.
8725  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Continue my losing streak on: November 24, 2017, 08:10:09 AM
I just have 572 red streak (100x payout) in dice game  Angry
Not a single green. Still keep the same server and client seed because I
will still continue if I has enough bitcoin.
Well maybe if there any big whale or investor who want to continue my bet,
we can talk about terms, conditions and profit sharing  Smiley

Feel free to PM me or ignoring me

Thanks in advance
I think you're chasing the loss and that will make you broke if you keep chasing it.

Do consider reading the post properly before posting the same padded posts to increase your post counts and spam your signature.

The OP is asking for literally help to continue their wins if that ever happens. He is on a losing streak and my suggestion would be stop it and not gamble any more because that would have the same outcome. Again he is asking for some help from investors to invest for him. This is like asking for a loan without any collateral that too in some case where the money is being put into gambling which is a risky thing to.
8726  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: About Bitcoin Bad Rumors on: November 24, 2017, 07:58:10 AM
Don't listen to rumors. Your actions should be based on facts, not rumors. No matter what they say. Just watch Bitcoin price and use the moment.

I would say people should learn to differentiate rumors from facts and not consider every news as a rumor. There are fake news and FUD everywhere but the places where they are spread are obvious and if you buy into those then you are a fool.

The reddit subreddits are full of shills and scum who pump every shitcoin and promote those. The Poloniex/HitBTC trollboxes are called "trollbox" for a reason. I have seen all types of conspiracy theories going on there and I really fell those people need treatment.
8727  Economy / Reputation / Re: Who is judging the judge? The Lauda problem. on: November 23, 2017, 08:36:14 AM
Well ladies and gentlemans, I really do not promote BCH or whatever, you can see it in my history, I am more XRP fanboy. But I personally believe that BCH is better choice for several reasons.

And I got negative trust, for just what I think: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg25045924#msg25045924  Roll Eyes Not that I care much about this trust thing (I even do not know what it for?), but:

- Why not give Ethereum believers negative trust, because it is a way to create a scam ICOs
- Why not XRP believers give negative trust, because it is "centralised", "bank owned" asset
- Why not ...
Honestly speaking the new altcoin BCH has simply "copied" everything from BTC and the so-called devs have been promoting it to the "real bitcoin". The crypto world is not happy about it neither do they seem legit. On the other hand there have been other altcoins with legit devs and real code behind their blockchains. To me and to most people here BCH is a pump and dump and I am sure it will continue like that.


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I think Lauda has just personal big issues against BCH, which most BTC purist will ignore and promote, but well, wake up guys. You will not stop or change people mind by putting "trust" to minus, because in reality trust has no value in this form where every second is a bot.

Stop this muppet show, do not insult / disrespect others believe.
It not about personal issues but about making the community aware of the issues behind something. In this forum there is a shitload of scammers spammers and shitposters shilling away like anything at any and every shitcoin they can find. Let it be any shitcoin airdrop or any shitcoin bounty.
Thanks to DT members shitcoins like DeepOnion and BCH are getting purged soon.

You are free to believe what you want - but if you are promoting some scam or potential scam then get ready to face the red paint Or like I have often said - make you own forum and preach about Lauda and DT members there at your own will.
8728  Economy / Economics / Re: Might not be a bad idea to sell off 5% of your stash.. on: November 23, 2017, 08:26:39 AM
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when it  comes to selling to get the profit out, in my opinion it doesn't matter if you sell at $100 or even less, what matters is what you are going to do after you sold.
Why does that matter do you think? I think that depends on the trader's idea of trading and method of trading. They many be looking to get some decent profits and cut losses and then hodl the rest. A common method by most traders.

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for example in case of buying at $10 and selling at $100, how much did they sell? did they buy back after the correction or after seeing $100 heading towards $200 and $1200?
these may seem like obvious actions that anyone reading this may say they will do the same. but in reality most people who sell after a rise and rise continues don't buy back because they think price will fall down so they wait a long time and miss out on a lot.
I will say one thing on this - Most early adopters of bitcoin were not happy when prices did not rise much. The prices have skyrocketed only recently if you check the graphs. Hence it is evident from the analysis that at that time people sold all the bitcoin say for example like you said at 100$ and banked that profit. They totally exit market and never came back - unless of course they came to know that recent price in bitcoin has seen a huge upsurge and then realized their mistake in not hodling.
8729  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how can bitcoin survive with 26 USD transaction cost? on: November 23, 2017, 08:19:11 AM
I was worried about this problem a long time ago. To me it seems that every blockchain which is not centralized in some way is headed down this path. Yet the absolute euphoria about Bitcoin's future and disruptiveness continues. What gives?

Mate you need to understand that you use wallets which allow custom fees like electrum and then leave the transactions going on. They will take time to confirm but that does not mean that they will forever be static in the blockchain. If you have a bunch of transactions going on everyday then its another question - use bulk transactions (send to many feature) for that.

This has nothing to do with blockchains being centralized or not. I dont know where you got that idea from. Care to share the source with us?
8730  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin income strategy guide 200-300$/month on: November 23, 2017, 08:12:23 AM
You are telling me to buy and buy. I cannot even buy a pack of cigarettes. And even if I had money, I would not spend it on buying bots that could lead me to my downfall. I am not trying to sound clueless, but I do not even know how to create "a bot supported bitcoin poker room account".

I think this post is as complicated as ever. If you have tried it and it worked for you, then congratulations. But I am not going to risk my coins and give them to the so-called "Bot.

Agreed, a so called bot is worse than a drunk person. One cannot expect to get earnings in Poker form bots. A poker game needs skills and practise to win. Sure a bot can be programmed to play like that but still its a bot and lacks the characters that a human has. Again its makes me sick to see people trying out every shortcut to win. Like they say there is no shortcut to success but they fail to understand the essence of this statement. Everyone I see is just looking to automate their earnings - be it a casino or trading.
8731  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What kind of cryptocurrency is easier to obtain ? on: November 22, 2017, 09:28:01 AM
What do you mean to obtain? If you are talking about coins that easy to mine you can see it here https://whattomine.com/  you can use that website as reference to learn what coins is fit for you in mining good luck.

That does not totally determine that coin the OP should if at all, mine. Mining also needs to other factors to be taken care of including some electricity costs, engineering costs and the cost of the rigs. Now there are some pump and dumps which a person can join - to pump up a volume of the coin by mining it and the dumping it to the exchange as soon as it hits there. Then move on to another coin.

With easier do you mean cheaper?
If you mean that, then you can visit any exchange site, like Poloniex, Bittrex, Kraken etc. and find some cheap altcoins, that maybe in the future can grow 50-100x their original cost, so you can make a profit
I think the OP means coins which are cheap and they are willing to invest in them. OP can check the coins on coinmarketcap.com and get an idea of the top crypto there. Dont believe every ICO thats happening because majority are failing to reach their soft caps. But yes bounty hunting is something you can do in the forum.
8732  Economy / Economics / Re: Might not be a bad idea to sell off 5% of your stash.. on: November 22, 2017, 09:23:54 AM
I do this from time to time. But usually itīs just big headache. I prefer to go slowly changing my Europapers into BTC. And do this kind of play with the part of my stash that is a hobby...mainly alts but some satoshi as well.
Well speculating the market is not something I like. I prefer to HODL when it comes to btc and then sell it slowly at times making profit and reinvesting that profit when price is low. Be careful which altcoin you buy though. Most altcoins are good for day trading and short-middle term holdings. I am not hodling any altcoin other than ethereum and ripple for long term.


Yeah. It hit an all-time high of $7998 a few hours ago. It would have been really tempting to sell at that price and then wait for a drop to spend that money. If anything though, it just showed how much higher btc can go.

Idk man. Yes if you have been holding for more than 3 years, but that's rare. If you have been holding recently just hold a little while longer as you are going to start seeing crazy gains because the demand is huge right now, but the supply is becoming more and more limited which is going to drive the price up extremely high in the not so distant future.

People from 3 years ago are probably in the same situation as us now. "OK, I've already held this long enough, would this go higher or this is before everything collapse and I should leave now?"

Max I would hold would probably be a year and then check how much I can take out.
It is true that many people who bought btc at 10$ had sold it when it reached 100$ - it because for them its 10times the original investment and most investors are not willing to take risks for more than 6-7 years specially when it comes to crypto.
8733  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Ethereum Dark is a SCAM ! on: November 22, 2017, 09:19:49 AM
sometimes i think why dev pay the fee to cryptopia to list ethd on it after 1.5 month of its dev disappearance..
To attract potential customers to invest in their project after shitloads of spamming on social media about how this new coin (read shitcoin) will revolutionize the crypto economy and come to the top beyond bitcoin. Also they promised their ardent bounty hunters to be able to trade the coin after they got their shitdrops in the beggar hands.
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may be dev team working silently on the project.
Most devs are silent about future work and slowly release more news. But tell me honestly is there any dev/human being at all or it is just vaporware?

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but the people made a handsome amount who get this token from airdrop..the price was around 5$ and
its much pretty that time.. dumpers lucky on this coin :p
Thats who most shitcoin airdrops progress in the exchange
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on the other hand investors are regreting who bought them at high price..
Sucks to be them.
8734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Continue my losing streak on: November 22, 2017, 09:16:06 AM
Where are you playing?  (I want to invest and take home some of the BTC you are losing).

You must be trolling the OP right? That person really seems butthurt because he thought that putting in money into the casino would make it double. Now these delusions that people have are natural since we all want to be rich and all. However the casino is not a charity and potential addicts dont understand it. Some friend tells them that they made a thousand dollars in that casino and they join it - possibly with their referral link too.

End of the day we have another addicted gambler who wasted money into a casino hoping to multiply it but the actual person who earned was the referee and the casino and its investors.
8735  Economy / Reputation / Re: Who is judging the judge? The Lauda problem. on: November 22, 2017, 09:12:13 AM


Thank you, you are the only one that try to explain your point of view and ask serious question.
Thekool1s is a stupid guy. He posted a picture and I stopped reading from that point.
theultralite bla bla bla bla make your own forum...who forced him to read my message?
Being a member of this forum we can participate in conversations and state our own opinions. Just like you did in your OP. Now the question is will people like it or not? But that depends on the discretion of the person commenting and the not the person reading. If someone has a view respect that and you may have your own view but that does not mean that others will agree with you.

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Probably most of you don't fully understand what I mean because a few months ago I was like you. I Never had thought that I could be involved in this thread. I am a legendary member tagged from Lauda that never had any discussion, never sell or bought account, never scam people.
I highly doubt this. Most of the threads in this section of the forum are made by butthurt signature spammers, scammers and shady people trying to run potential scams. Also account sellers and potential criminals. If none of that happened to you then why are you here?


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Now I feel disgusted, I feel the sensation of something deeply unfair. I feel I have no way to defend myself because the only things you can do is write to DT1 members.
So I thought about asking to every bounty manager to put ~Lauda. It could be an alternative way of defend against Lauda.
Thats the decision of the bounty manager. Its their choice and not something you can enforce upon people.
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I did a lot of research and asked to a lot of user tagged by Lauda.

I hate scammers and users that have multi accounts too, but here we are beyond the limit: a member tagged because Lauda hates bitcoincash, another member tagged for the intention to do something and not for something really proven.

If tomorrow Lauda decides to tag someone because she doesn't like the nickname, you don't really have a procedure to recover your trust status because "trust is not moderated"
You are getting it wrong. At one time when I was new to the forum and was doing signature campaigns for the first then I also had this idea that Lauda was neg tagging everyone he thinks he can. It gradually turned out that this was not the case and that I was also wrong. It seems that without the DT2 members this forum would be a shitload of scammers.

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Remember that Lauda isn't Mother Teresa or a charity organization. She told that she spent a lot of her time doing this for free but if you think how is important reputation I see a conflic of interest (I see an avatar selling something).

I asked to a lot of moderators about some case and all of them told me that they didn't tagged those people but they aren't surprise that Lauda did.

I discovered that Lauda was removed from staff member because she did an extortion/blackmail  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1761133.20

Probably the exclusion from the staff member cause her to be angry with the entire world. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1761133.20

This is the post where she is red tagging anyone that supports Bitcoin Cash. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2420291.0

And this is the incredible thread. I can't believe:Lauda, Sold bitcointalk accounts, Giving neg for others for same reason. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2410318.0

To be honest I think that 99% of people tagged by Lauda deserve that negative trust, the problem is if you are in that 1%.

I prefer an unpunished guilty rather than an innocent punishment and Lauda doesn't act in this direction.

My two cents.

This proves nothing but that you are butthurt and are willing to throw everything that has happened in this section at people whose work you dont know.
If you really have something to prove that you are innocent then put in front of the public and come out with your original account. If they are solid then steps will be taken.
8736  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Continue my losing streak on: November 21, 2017, 08:09:37 AM
I just have 572 red streak (100x payout) in dice game  Angry
Not a single green. Still keep the same server and client seed because I
will still continue if I has enough bitcoin.
First of all server seed and client seeds have no relation to the fairness of the roll. Every roll is fair if the game is provably fair and this can be verified by the roll verifier system of several third party websites as well. If you are on a losing streak then let me tell you its your luck that you need to blame and not the website.

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Well maybe if there any big whale or investor who want to continue my bet,
we can talk about terms, conditions and profit sharing  Smiley
Feel free to PM me or ignoring me
Thanks in advance
Ok so you are actually asking for some patron to pay for you while you go on rolling dice? No proof No trust on your account and you are still junior member here. I guess this can be thought of as a loan that you are asking? But be warned that asking loans without collateral (valid ones obviously) is not allowed in this forum unless you are having some green trust already, otherwise get ready for some red paint on your trust.
8737  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how can bitcoin survive with 26 USD transaction cost? on: November 21, 2017, 07:59:14 AM
What wallet are you using for sending transactions? Maybe it does have something to do with and I'm thinking about xapo, I'm currently using blockchain.info and you know what the lowest sats per byte that I paid is only 15 sats. They are working on it and seems that many miners are now back to mine bitcoin. When I have a $20 fee for a transaction what I did is I cancelled it and just wait for the dust to be settled, that time is during the war against bitcoin cash. I let it calmed so now I have less than $1 to pay for each of my transaction.

I agree with you point. The mining dilemma of bitcoin and bitcoin cash has been bugging people for the last few days. Transaction fees are high and people have to spend more on fees than actual funds sent. It complicates things even more for people who are doing daily business and have to do more than 10 transactions every hour. Think about the amount of fees that would need. Luckily I dont have this issue and I barely send one transaction per day and I am happy to have it confirmed in 2-3 days.
8738  Economy / Economics / Re: How to train your money for costly bitcoin? on: November 21, 2017, 07:54:29 AM
we, we can wait until the price drops before or after hard fork and buy more bitcoin me. and while we are going to invest in altcoin to do trade that can generate a lot of bitcoin for a short period of time to get good results
There is nothing hard on how you can handle your investment during high price rate times. Okay, according to the op, he bought lots of bitcoins at the time when price was very low, which is a very good thing that he did, he was really lucky.

If he really bought much, then there is no need to invest now at this high rate, he better wait and earn profits from his first Investment while he waits for a price decrease.

i think the op now is one of the richest person in his city because when he withdraw his money, i am sure he can make a lot of profit and he can do right now while the price is at a good price. i think he can withdraw several bitcoin and saving the money into his bank account while he can do another trading to increase his bitcoin again and i am sure that the profit will be bigger than now. he can buy another bitcoin when the price is decrease and then sell for higher price later.
OP's strategy is pretty good, we'd better imitate it if we can, and it's also true to buy the coin at the lowest price and sell at a high price. it is an opportunity to achieve high profits.

Imitating someone else's methods may or may not be a good idea. You never know how much truth the person has spoken and how much of their investments are actually true. Many investors often get paid for companies to shill for them. Now this attracts other potential customers. The one who invests with their own brains and thinks of the next step is the real investor.

Keep spending the same amount you were. The USD value is the same, just see the bitcoins you purchased at a cheaper price as "discounted coins".. You just have to think that in X years, what you're buying now will seem very cheap in comparison to the actual price.
Agreed! If you want to increase the worth of the bitcoin which you are having in your pocket, then you have to for sure go for holding of bitcoin and that too for quite a long period of time. It is the only way of increasing the worth of your money.

In fact, this will also help you in having more amount of money and that too without putting in lot of efforts. All you need is to remain patient.

You can try selling bits of that bulk amount you are hodling. I often sell fractions of it when price rises and buy more when price dips.
8739  Economy / Reputation / Re: Who is judging the judge? The Lauda problem. on: November 21, 2017, 07:49:51 AM
I think we have a serious problem in the forum.
Lauda and other members put negative trust without any rules. They created their own rules.
No one asked you to join the forum. Go away. Simple solution and it will save a lot of other people from the trouble of reading your shitposts and garbage just to get an answer in the forum.

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Sometimes they punish the intention. They don't have to report any proof.
The reference is not a proof.
I told you - go make your own forum and be the MVP king of that forum. Apply your own rules and watch how it unfolds.
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They decided to apply  their own rules but they don't understand that the problem is the possibility to create multiple accounts.
Does that make any sense? Anyone can make an alt account here for any reason whatsoever. But if done for cheating campaigns and so on they should be negged - which I am sure happened to your original account.

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Why Lauda doesn't ask theymos to link the account to an Id card or to a cellular phone number?
Oh come on now, this is a bitcoin forum not Paypal.
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Lauda giving the neg trust, force you to create a new account.
Does not imply that. Neg trust would be a punishment for you.It is now your decision if you want to use that account or not. If you were a legit person you would swallow your pride and use that account itself. But since you are shitposter/bounty cheater your obvious decision is to make a new account.

Wait did I just reveal your real intention? Grin Grin

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Why Lauda doesn't ask Theymos to lock the  "Invites & Accounts". (remember that buying accounts is legit)
It should be very happy but doing this he would not have his game anymore.
Selling account other than bitcointalk accounts are happening here. It seems you have not visited that section yet since you mostly watch those sections where posting gives you credit for your signature.


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So I ask to all of you to do something against this problem.
I think that we can ask every day  in every thread for a bounty campaign to the bounty manager  to put ~Lauda in his default trust list ignoring Lauda trust.
On the other hand all legit bounty managers depend on DT2 members to neg tag cheaters.
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Maybe we can create a Signature asking for ~Lauda in the default trust.
We could create every days tons of account (remember it's not against the rule) posting this message in every thread and reporting this problem to DT1 users.We have to do something, they put red trust to legit users without any rules, without anybody that told them to do, they punish the intention, this is witch-hunt.
Like I said go make your own forum and preach.

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So the fact is:
There are no rules
You can buy and sell account
You can ask to everyone to ignore Lauda putting ~Lauda in the default trust list.
More shitposting

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Remember that Lauda can't be judged by anyone and ignoring him is the only weapon we have.
Forum admins discuss potential issues with DT2 members if necessary. They are human after all.

If you were educated enough, you would stop shitposting and get a job and a life and leave the forum since you got negative trust. No use hanging around here. It will save the forum from ya shitposters.
8740  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Read This Before Joining Any Shit Token Air Drops on: November 20, 2017, 10:18:47 AM
I get bored and just fill out air drop forms for shit tokens. I now have a colletcion of shit tokens - but most would cost more to send than what they are worth - so they are DEAD ON ARRIVAL. Never buy shit tokens - there is no developement team - the contract is just copying and paste from other contract and renamed etc.  Some shit tokens are soo shitty - you can not even send them as they fail.

True that and I have seen majority of the shitcoins in that part of the forum to be copy pastes of other such shitcoins. Its funny how people join these airdrops even after realizing that the last one was a shittoken and the next one is another clone-copy of that shitoken. It a pile load of shit if you ask me  Grin

Could you please give an advice about when is the most advantage time to sell those shit coin? Right after the tokens distributed or we should wait like one or two days first?
If you have got some airdropped shittokens you might have to wait - because the early birds will dump it on some decentralized exchange like EtherDelta and the price will drop. However sell them as early as you can or wait for the next pump and then dump it all. Never ever think about looking back to that asset again.

B2X Bitcoin Segwit 2x: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2425179.560

As You Can See This Low Life Scammer (B2X Bitcoin Segwit 2x) Has His thread " Moderated " Deleted My Post Couple Minutes Later from Exposing His SCAM:
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Yeah I saw that yesterday and as usual some shitposters have be flocking that thread already with begging hands hoping to get some shitdrops.
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