Trump is the candidate of the low info voting crowd that don't take a look at a range of issues a candidate either stands for or has stood for. While I agree w/ him in wanting the illegals out of here, there's no fiscal responsible way to deport them other than cut off welfare payments and let the losers of the bunch self deport and the rest can stay and do what they're doing. This whole immigration drama is based upon Obama and the left fast-tracking illegals to citizen status so they can be used to vote for bigger government and complete the transformation of the US, permanently. People are sick of this as well as the crime that is associated w/ many of the druggie illegal types, not to mention the anchor baby issue. Rand Paul hasn't pushed his immigration plan like he should and that's why Trump was the first to go off on it. At least he mentioned in the debate the other day that he had put up a Senate bill back in 2011 to stop the anchor baby issue but he should've said that a while ago.

“It’s not about changing who you are, it’s about adding a new chapter to your journey… and to our journey as a nation of immigrants,” Obama narrates in his two-minute video urging almost 9 million resident migrants to sign up for citizenship so they can vote in 2016.

Obama’s deputies will award citizenship to 36,000 over the next few days.

But federal law — and reality — contradicts Obama’s progressive-style denial of Americans’ sophisticated, evolved and unique society, and contradicts his support for a chaotically diverse “nation of immigrants” devoid of any unique and shared loyalties and obligations.

“I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen,” says the first sentence of the citizenship oath.
[...]
Bush, like Obama, views the United States as “a market, not a country,” said Krikorian.

“Their sense of America is that it is a happenstance, that we all happen to be in the same place and anyone else can come and live the same place… that the nation merely is a geographic or economic unit rather than a cultural and emotional community.”

Imposed cultural variety, or diversity, is good for the elites, Krikorian said. “The weakening of a strong sense of the common American identity goes hand-in-hand with the growth of strong identity politics and grievance culture, where people are divided into various [competing genetic] groups… that requires the state to take a bigger and bigger role in life because groups have to be measured and represented,” he said.

“Without a strong sense of unifying patriotism that relegates those [racial, ethnic, national, genetic] differences to a secondary status, you end up with ‘Leviathan’ — a big government to manage and negotiate the differences between those groups,” he said.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/18/no-assimilation-needed-u-s-obama-tells-millions-migrants/

How about just spend money on neither and let the productive members of society keep the money they earn to make better lives for their families which will foster a much better economy for the lower classes among us. If you're able bodied, then you have no excuse to not be working at something and I don't mean shelling out more kids for the productive to foot the bill for. Granted, the fascist oligarchy and their government and media pimps have helped rid the US of true middle class and other upwardly mobile jobs for those that desire them. DC needs their budget slashed w/ a meat cleaver ASAP. That's where Rand Paul for President comes in. If people want to see this happen, then donate to his campaign.

Here's another poll to vote in and I hope yall really go at this one. We need to go bulls on parade w/ these Fox fuckers that are trying to pimp out Fiorina as the next greatest thing for the viewers to fall for. The main takeaway that I got out of Fiorina during the recent debate a few nights ago was her willingness to start shit all over again in the middle east as well as spending hundreds of billions more for more carriers and other military hardware as if we didn't have enough already. That alone should get you to vote for Rand over there.

http://nation.foxnews.com/poll/2015/09/17/who-do-think-won-2nd-republican-2016-debate/

Rand Paul: Why I'm Different

RENO & CARSON CITY, Nev. (MyNews4.com & KRNV) -- Republican presidential hopeful Rand Paul hit the campaign trail hard in northern Nevada just one day after the second GOP Presidential Debate.

He made stops in Carson City and later spoke with students at the University of Nevada, Reno.

He spoke with News 4's Terri Hendry, who spent most of the day with the candidate. When asked on how he thought he did in the debate, he joked that Donald Trump seemed a bit upset with him, but he smiled and said he thought he did well because he was able to show how he is different.

That difference became clear regarding his position on additional military force in the Middle East. Paul said, "I'm not going back in to Iraq. Frankly, we've been there and done that. I'm not sending our young men and women back, and I hope that's something that's different but I hope that's something that will appeal."

Later that afternoon, he told students at the university, "When it comes to our involvement regarding ISIS and Iran," he added, "Iran and ISIS are fighting each other. Why do we need to get involved? Why not just pop some popcorn?"

He refers to himself as a Libertarian. He was also asked to explain the difference between a Libertarian and a Republican. He said, "You know there is overlap between Libertarians and Republicans. In fact, Ronald Reagan said the very heart and soul of conservatism is Libertarianism. Libertarians believe you have the right to do most things if you're not hurting someone else."

He gave the example of marijuana. He supports de-criminalizing it, particularly medical marijuana.

He supports limiting and shrinking the federal government. He also believes in giving more power back to individual states. Paul believes in government that strictly adheres to powers granted in the Constitution.  He said he is also a staunch supporter of protecting your rights.

Local video footage located here...http://www.mynews4.com/news/story/Rand-Paul-in-Nevada/J_eYV0unT0e4ouiI7J3BSQ.cspx

300 students showed up to Rand's Rally in the university of Nevada

https://www.facebook.com/studentsforrand/photos/a.905476772881013.1073741830.483190015109693/918065228288834/?type=1&theater

That is 10 percent of the 3k goal in Nevada! Rand is driving home the message from the debate. It is a message that resonates with young voters. I am very excited. The libertarian message came at a great time!

Yahoo News says says Rand has the best line of the night

and that's a surprise. they give a brief blurb on how all of the candidates did in the debate. For Rand they say:

Standing at far stage right, Paul had the best line of the night on the Iraq war and the fight against the Islamic State. "If you want boots on the ground, and you want them to be our sons and daughters, you got 14 other choices. There will always be a Bush or Clinton for you, if you want to go back to war in Iraq."

http://news.yahoo.com/scorecard-gop-candidates-fared-2nd-debate-072543923--election.html

Via the Chicago Tribune

Kass: Rand Paul won the latest debate without flashiness, and Trump may be facing his twilight.

Donald Trump wanted to kick him off the debate stage. Fox News ignored him. CNN limited his time, then called him a loser.

But Rand Paul won the Republican presidential debate.

It wasn't even close.

Is he perfect, or some savior on a white horse? No. Yet the others on the debate stage talked like angry children determined to show the world how tough they'd be. They promised to rip up the Iran deal and either push Vladimir Putin around or ignore him completely.

But Paul, the senator from Kentucky, spoke like a thoughtful grown-up, overshadowing them all on foreign policy, explaining that intervening in Middle East civil wars is a recipe for disaster.
Issues, too: GOP candidates debate more than Trump this time

"If you want boots on the ground, and you want them to be our sons and daughters, you've got 14 other choices," Paul said during the debate. "There will always be a Bush or Clinton for you if you want to go back to war in Iraq."
Clearly the media don't like him. And Trump doesn't like him, singling Paul out for attack at the outset.

Trump is the front-runner. So why attack Paul, who's been so starved of media oxygen? Because New Hampshire approaches, and Trump will fade eventually, having demonstrated to Americans that he lacks the requisite depth for the job.

The GOP establishment can afford a Carly Fiorina, pretending to be an outsider, or even a Marco Rubio, thrilling a few of the TV talking heads by morphing into some Leonidas of Sparta from Miami, eager to kick those insolent Persian envoys down the well.

But what the Republican establishment cannot afford is Paul as their nominee. That would expose the neocons and the war party, and the security surveillance state.

And it might help remind Americans that conservatives once opposed foreign adventures, meaning wars, because wars by definition lead to the aggrandizement of federal power.

It is the universal law of political arithmetic that as the government gorges and muscles up, individual liberty fades.
Paul doesn't have buzz, but buzz is overrated, as is snark and hair.

Former President George W. Bush had buzz when he plunged foolishly into Iraq and that led to the terror of ISIS. President Barack Obama had buzz, just about the time he drew that "red line" in the sands of Syria, and before the dictator in Libya was toppled.

Obama began to lose buzz with the growth of ISIS, which he dismissed as some kind of terrorist junior varsity.
The flood of refugees from North Africa and Syria —the forerunners of a larger stampede threatening Europe — has both Bush and Obama's name on it.

But you won't hear that on CNN (the Democratic network) or Fox News (the Republican network), or from other establishment Democratic or Republican candidates.

"I've made my career as being an opponent of the Iraq War," Paul said. "I was opposed to the Syria war. I was opposed to arming people who are our enemies.

"Iran is now stronger because Hussein is gone (from Iraq). Hussein was the great bulwark and counterbalance to the Iranians. So when we complain about the Iranians, you need to remember that the Iraq War made it worse …
"We have to learn sometimes the interventions backfire. The Iraq War backfired and did not help us. We're still paying the repercussions of a bad decision."

Yet it was obvious from their flexing and posturing and saber rattling that the other Republicans insist on not learning a thing from Iraq.

And so, they'd love to face Hillary Clinton. She never met a war she didn't like.

If Hillary is in the finals with Jeb! or Rubio or even Fiorina — our new Joan of Arc who talked of building warships and recruiting brigades of U.S. Marines — the Republicans will be saved from having to confront their past.
Ted Cruz is a smart man, hated of course by liberal newspeople, and I've always thought he might best serve his nation on the Supreme Court.

But in the debate, Cruz was so ostentatiously fierce about shredding the Iran agreement that he might as well have worn some leopard skin costume, a circus strongman in a Fellini movie shredding the Palermo phone book in his bare hands.

Dr. Ben Carson was reasonable but inexperienced in foreign affairs and it showed. Mike Huckabee is a nincompoop. The others pandered like pros. And the talking heads said it was wisdom.

Paul took a different tack.

"Sometimes both sides of the civil war are evil, and sometimes intervention sometimes makes us less safe," Paul said. "This is real the debate we have to have in the Middle East.

"Every time we have toppled a secular dictator, we have gotten chaos, the rise of radical Islam, and we're more at risk. So I think we need to think before we act, and know most interventions, if not a lot of them in the Middle East, have actually backfired on us."

There is no buzz to such rhetoric, no bloody gusto, no King Leonidas abs of steel, no Joan of Arc with a sword.
It's just grown-up talk, and so, quite likely, not entertaining at all.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-debate-wrapup-met-0918-20150917-column.html

It's behind a paywall so I just posted the whole damn thing as this is probably the most widely circulated positive piece on Paul's debate performance and the bigger picture writ large in this GOP Primary. Read the whole thing, it's worth it.

If you ain't buyin a certain amount of bitcoins w/ your money, then you'll be poor in the future. Channeling Back to the Future on this one in a different way. The flux capacitor is gonna pass you by and so will the sports book.

If Only the Fed Would Get Out of the Way

By RAND PAUL and MARK SPITZNAGEL

The recent tumult in U.S. equity markets has prompted many analysts to urge the Fed to postpone any increase in interest rates. This advice assumes that rock-bottom interest rates are balm for a weak economy, with the only possible side effect being price inflation. Yet it is the Fed’s artificially low interest rates that set up the economy for the 2008 crisis, not to mention previous crises.

The “doves” are right to point out that higher interest rates will lead to a repricing of many securities, aka a crash. But years of near-zero interest rates have made this inevitable. Continuing on the current course will only allow structural distortions caused by these interest rates to fester and an inevitable reckoning that will be much worse than seven years ago.

The master fallacy underlying so much economic commentary is to imagine that a handful of experts in Washington should be setting the price of borrowing money. Instead, the Fed should set markets free.

In their theory of business cycles, the Austrian economists Ludwig von Mises and Friedrich Hayek explained several decades ago that artificially cheap credit misleads entrepreneurs and investors into doing the wrong things—which in the current financial context includes making unsustainable, levered investments in risky assets, including companies loading up on debt to buy back and boost the price of their stock. Low interest rates may create an illusion of robust markets, but eventually rates spike, assets are suddenly revealed to be too highly priced, and debt unpayable. Many firms have to cut back production or shut down, unemployment rises and the boom goes bust.

...http://www.infowars.com/if-only-the-fed-would-get-out-of-the-way/

Rand Paul on Fox News w/ Bill Hemmer 9/17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWHimNglR8

"Trump's pitiful shtick coming to an end"

Rand's post debate appearance on the Sean Hannity show on Fox News

He predicts the poll numbers for all candidates will be reshuffled after last nights performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Su9U6kCPI

The Slate's take on Foreign Policy in the GOP debate

"It’s a strange debate where Sen. Rand Paul comes off as the most sensible contender on the stage.

The shockwaves sounded three times during the GOP debate’s testy phase on foreign policy Wednesday night. First, after Carly Fiorina said she wouldn’t so much as meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin for the evils he’s committed, Paul noted that Ronald Reagan—in whose library the candidates and their audience were gathered—talked with the Russians throughout the Cold War, to the world’s benefit.

Second, after hearing his rivals blast President Obama for not bombing Syria two years ago after pledging that he would if President Bashar al-Assad crossed the “red line” of using chemical weapons, Paul said, “If we’d bombed Syria, ISIS would be in Damascus today,” adding, “Sometimes intervention makes us less safe.” The specific claim is debatable (though no one debated it), but the broad point is indisputably true.

Third, contrary to almost all of his rivals (and his fellow Republicans on Capitol Hill), Paul said that he would not “tear up” the Iran nuclear deal upon entering the White House. “Let’s see if the Iranians comply with it,” he said, in a tone suggesting that he was making an obvious point—which, indeed, he was.

...http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2015/09/republican_party_s_presidential_candidates_on_foreign_policy_gop_contenders.html

Unlike Trump, Rand Paul Actually Made Some Sensible Points During the Debate

The Kentucky senator cut through the “childish, silly back-and-forth” to present reasonable alternatives on foreign policy, drug reform, and mass incarceration.

Donald Trump does not like Rand Paul.

In the weirdest non sequitur of a often-incoherent second Republican presidential debate, the billionaire front-runner for the party nomination declared, “Rand Paul shouldn’t even be on this stage. He’s number 11. He’s got 1 percent in the polls. There’s too many people onstage already.”

As he has been on so many points, Trump was entirely wrong on this one.

Paul distinguished himself with coherent questioning of mass incarceration, calls for criminal-justice reform, and aggressive referencing of the injustices that extend from a failed drug war. The senator from Kentucky had one of the best moments of the debate when, during a back-and-forth over Jeb Bush’s youthful inhaling of marijuana, Paul put things into perspective for the former Florida governor: “Kids who have privilege like you do don’t go to jail. But the poor kids in the inner city still go to jail.”

...http://www.thenation.com/article/rand-paul-made-some-of-the-few-sensible-points-of-the-whole-debate/

Rand Paul on the Glenn Beck radio show yesterday, which has millions of tea party type listeners. Earlier in the day before the debate. Discussing taxes and term limits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbMrFCLsAsU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E54HxJqPJFI

All of Rand's responses in last night's CNN debate from the Reagan library in California.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxnq9lhH1x4

Post debate polls

dailycaller.com/2015/09/16/trump-rand-paul-shouldnt-even-be-on-this-stage-video/

www.drudgereport.com

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/second-gop-debate

http://fox5sandiego.com/2015/09/16/poll-who-do-you-think-won-the-cnn-gop-debate/

time.com/4037510/poll-second-republican-presidential-debate/

Constitution Day Moneybomb today

Rand is coming off of a great performance at the debate, now let's get him some dough to keep spreading the message of Liberty.

Rand showed up big tonight, let's show up big for him!

https://secure.randpaul.com/

Bitcoin accepted of course.

Thanks for your insight, fontas aka lamb's crotch. Please, go help a charity where you can actually do some good for mankind instead of making a mockery of yourself. Cool!

As she likes to say, "At this point, what difference does it make!" She has her foundation chock full of foreign money to the tune of over a hundred billion so even if she is indicted for something, it will eventual get her a slap on the wrist just like the fraud of an impeachment her old man received. In the off chance that she actually gets a real prison sentence then I'll have a little faith restored in justice. But, "Just us" doesn't apply to the in-crowd.