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881  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin price will keep down or will rise this day on: September 15, 2017, 01:20:58 PM
we see bitcoin price low more than 1000$ this week specially yesterday so share what you think about price this day and this week

The main problem is that the Chinese users might have difficulties selling their bitcoins and this will drive the price to decrease even more.We need some big whales to start mass buying bitcoins.
This will stop all the panic selling and balance the market.I guess that the big whales are waiting for cheaper bitcoins.We all should HODL and refuse to sell. 

That's possible that bigger whales will buy bitcoins from china people at a lower price for now, so it's expected that bitcoin will immediately rise not later that October. We will see that $5000 or even greater price will be upcoming for several days this September, and people will be gaining another confidence to invest again and hold for another long time investments.
882  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: regret by not believing in BITCOIN? on: September 14, 2017, 11:43:37 PM
first time I saw news about bitcoin was mid 2012 but back then I thought its some kind of scam/ponzi. after 1-2 years that even I saw BTC price was increased to 200$-600$ I still didnt believe in BTC but now here we are...
Yes. I regret that. I stop earning bitcoins before thats why i stop for awhile and then when i get back, the price increases a lot. I regret that day that i thinks bitcoin is not good thats why i am working hard right now so that i can save more bitcoins and i will be having so many money someday.

Most people regret after all specially if they see good results in the future that may touched their ego, while those days that bitcoin is cheaper they don’t grab the best opportunity to catch it. That’s right we should really have to work for bitcoin jobs now and earn it together with holding it to our wallets, and by the time it’s value becomes higher. If that happens everyone will be profitable in the future somehow.
883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: September 14, 2017, 10:42:39 PM
There is no need to give up gambling and if you can't afford your losses then you have to reduce your monthly budget or play with play money.

Everyone has its preferred activity and I can't see why it shouldn't be gambling, except you bet more than you can cope with.
To give up from gambling, reducing the monthly budget can work. As long as we continue to reduce the budget each month, reduce the budget every month, the monthly budget of our gambling is 0. It is difficult, but it all depends on you.
That is an interesting approach, most people try to leave gambling suddenly but it may be a good idea to do it slowly so by reducing your budget gradually you will not suffer from the effects of withdrawal that are so common among those that are addicted to something.

This is no difference in controlling yourself.  I do not think reducing budget monthly is better way, after all it comes to the person decision alone.  I agree it is hard and harder than we thought but isn't it much better to get a diversion than exposing ourselves to the tempatation?  Anyway, I am not saying that this one is not effective but I guess exposing ourselves to the temptation will certainly make it harder to give up gambling.

Controlling temptations from gambling could not be done all alone, maybe you could find comfort form family members and turning some diversions like engaging with trading platform. This will help you develop a sense of open mind toward changes on the activities you had from most cases that you been failing from gambling, most specially the money that you’ve wasted for so long. You cannot be tempted to play gambling again if you decide to leave that habits and have a new ways of life, stay away from gambling related activities and you’ll be successful.
884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: September 14, 2017, 08:45:21 PM
This season probably will become another great hype since last year. A lot of unforeseen trades and unexpected outcomes especially in the playoffs. Probably this year new playoff contenders will shock the fans. Wolves now has packed a lot of veteran players and sixers has a least 3 number picks in just 3 years. Lot stars was traded to other teams including cavs, celtics, thunders and even the bulls.

Yes I am also confident that this season will be greater that of previous years, and I know there will be more stars to rise to show what they've got. This will amazingly be revealing great talents and expect those new waves of players assists, to show nice and entertaining scenario of the entire NBA court. Both cavs and cerltics had their great player, and hopefully their new recruits will be contributing to the teams workmanship to defend the name of the team and go for the wins.
885  Economy / Speculation / Re: cheap coin is coming??? on: September 14, 2017, 04:03:54 PM
should I buy now? won't miss the last opportunity to the moon. I want to come with you
Rit is tred market now then you have the opportunity its up to you if you really want to buy but nake sure that you accept the risk however if i were you i'll buy those alternative coins that has very potential to increase with in a week to guaranteed your profit.

Well that's not certain if cheaper coins for now will be rising soon, because the current situations could not be predicted due to current effects of some speculations coming out. This was just the same old stories like what had happened lately last August 1, but if those positive people wanted the price to increase I guess it's profitable if ever there's possibility.
886  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Becoming a Global Currency on: September 14, 2017, 03:02:24 PM
Arguably, BTC is already global, as it can be used all over the world, by anyone and easily transferred anywhere in the world.

How come it's a already global while other countries seemed to be hesitant of accepting it as their legal currency? Even everybody is already transferring it worldwide, but it doesn't guaranteed it's globally accepted. Right now this moment as we can see bitcoin price is undergoing sudden crash of price, well   maybe investors were still in doubt and still affected of those negative speculations behind.
887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling with altcoins on: September 14, 2017, 02:25:58 PM
I usually gamble with those free coins on yobit and simply dice it them. I have read this tip before here on forum and I just tried it recently, it's like unlimited gambling but it's only good for those people that doesn't into profit but just want to enjoy dice game since it is freecoins, don't expect too much with it.

You play on yobit and simply dice because you get free coins. But mostly gamblers like to play gambling with their bitcoins, the reason if we win then we get more bitcoin, and online gambling sites easily accept bitcoin than other altcoin. But if you are playing gambling with free coins it is also save way from your lose of bitcoin.   

I know that fact that most of the gamblers wanted to gamble with their bitcoins. It's like an alternative if you just don't want to gamble with your bitcoin we have a choice and that is by gambling with your alt coins. Easily accept bitcoin? Can't you see that most of the casino's does have an option to gamble with alt coins?

That seems to be right, and I also think fiat casinos doesn't have those options now specially at our local places in the country. But if we have that alternative using digital money whether altcoins or bitcoin as long as it's digital currency, then we will come to a certain system that casino gambling is an advanced type of gambling game that uses altcoins. For that to happen this type of gambling application must be adopted in the future of gambling, not even with online but also with legit offline casino houses.
888  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin is not supported in some countries? on: September 13, 2017, 11:01:17 PM
I have heard that bitcoin is not supported in some countries. But why ? Is it because bitcoin is risky ? Some countries even declare 6 months jail if her people use bitcoin. Is it fair ? I mined few cryptos and have left mining. It was fun and challenging too. But I never got any clear answer. What does my gpu actually do ? I pay electric bill, my room temperature goes high and I get paid. With actually no skill on pc hardware and software. Whole thing is still pretty unclear to me
I think the bitcoins is not supported in other countries because they know that bitcoin has many disadvantages and also the government of they have are not yet full informed to what is bitcoin.

I think it's probably because of business that's the one of a reason why other nations is not yet supporting bitcoin.And  as fas as I know, most countries do not yet have well-defined regulations regarding the use of Bitcoin, so I could not say that Bitcoin is not supported by most countries, nor would it make much sense to say that such countries are supporting the use of the currency.They think bitcoin can affect their business economy, consequently they're doing everything in which bitcoin can't enter to their country.

Yes I agree that some countries were not positive witbmh the visions of bitcoin and it's a conflict to their economic growth. That's the main reason why they're not recognizing nor accepting bitcoin as payments and this currency isn't stable, so the're afraid that it might crash the economy due to bitcoin's price volatility.
889  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin price from 1000$ to 4000$ on: September 13, 2017, 09:07:18 PM
it can be happen because of the halving,
in 2016ish Bitcoing halving reduced rewards from 25 Bitcoin/block to 12,5 Bitcoin/block.
the difficulty keep increasing and the reward decreasing that is why the price is keep surging at the moment.
other than that we also heard about segwit,
i think that is the reason the price increasing a lot,
but,it doesn't matter because Bitcoin will always steadily increasing in term of price.
there're a lot of room to grow for bitcoin and it has not yet implemented by people.
so no matter what,the price will surging from time to time.


Price surging can be possible all the time and for the past years of digital currency fluctuation is not an the basis of everything. Our holdings is very unpredictable and you didn't even know when that better price will happen. Sometimes you'll become tired of checking moment by moment due to price volatibility, but think that price previously from small value of $1000-$4000 range is an amazing record since it's now coming back to $3000 plus. No matter what will happen with the price, we already given a chance from previous days and no regrets at all and it's a better idea to just hold the funds that you have and waiting time is starting now.
890  Other / Archival / Re: Do you think that you're addicted to gambling? on: September 13, 2017, 08:06:52 PM
As the title says, do you think that you're addicted to gambling? or you just don't realize that you're addicted Roll Eyes
If you ask me, i used to addicted to gambling but stopped after suffer big losses even though i'm still in profit.

I don't think that  I can count my self as a gambling addict. I occasionally gamble, and when I gamble I just gamble to have fun and to socialize with people. Gambling helped me relieve stress, but I don't really have any urge to gamble when I have nothing to do. And, I also think that gambling is created for entertainment.

You should be careful for that occasional gambling activity, because some people I heard of they make those activities became more successive and eventually being addicted to gambling lucky profits. I know it's one way of socializing, but you can make it just an occasional just to prove that you've been part of the social activities of other gamblers. If we have nothing to do, then we can start other fun activities like for our fitness activities for health purposes, engaging athletic sport or some sort of family bonding. There's a lot more to divert all those activities in order to prevent of being addicted with gambling.
891  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Offline Wallets Vs Online Wallets on: September 13, 2017, 07:23:31 PM
Which of the Bitcoin wallets between the Online and Offline works best?
Actually, you can use both of them and using offline and online wallet will help you to keep your bitcoin safe and secure. In addition to that, I prefer to use online wallet because it is very easy to use and you may also use it in any different kind of transactions. I know that its much safe to use.

Maybe I can prefer offline wallets, and to have both of them is an optional choice to have. Using myether is the better choice to do and you can really prefer what's the best for you, so you can access it both local and online. It's much safer that other online wallets, private keys and other security filled confirmation is needed in order to view your balance in the wallet.
892  Economy / Gambling / Re: Quit Invest INC WebSite Trading Investment on: September 13, 2017, 01:45:49 PM
why would you post your shitty scam invest in gambling section dude ?
just move it to other section.
it was created for gambler and gamble/casino site.
not for fooling people and scamming people.
get the hell out here dude

That's really a non sense offer from that guy mate, and he shouldn't be here for this gambling section. I think it's helpful if he praises gambling ideas and not that trading ideas with unpleasant thoughts from him. He can't fool anybody here and I am certain that many will block those attempts that's kind of obvious about his fooling act in this sections, so it's better that he can move to off topics and not here.
893  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What to do when prices are falling on: September 13, 2017, 05:26:20 AM
just check some trade group and see people say about that then if they say hold we sell. they say sell we hold  Grin

That's purely a human instict mate, if you only depend to that some trade groups I don't think it's reliable much because you don't know actually how the bitcoin price behave. Furthermore it attracts more demands but sometike loses it's value that's why many were into panic sells. As we can see price falls down, many panic sellers also have rattled decissions and couldn't decise what's better so they are selling at an earlier time and don't care for another pump of the price.
894  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will it fall? on: September 09, 2017, 12:00:24 AM
It's been on a high lately, and I would've guessed that it would've fell already, but it keeps climbing. When will it fall? When should we sell? Or should we hold through the next fall?
what comes up must come down.

I will guess that bitcoin may lose some value in October due to the fork coming in November, however there are news that the F2Pool is withdrawing his support to the hard fork and if other pools do the same then it is possible that the fork segwit2x is a lot smaller or it does not happen at all and in that case I think the price of bitcoin is going to be unaffected.

Before the plug, which occurred in August, bitcoin almost did not become cheaper. Everyone was waiting for this to buy even more coins.
I think that in the softer price of bitcoin will not fall because of the coming fork
But that was because at that point the danger of a split was already solved, the price fell because people thought there was going to be a fork between segwit and segwit2x when this was solved by BIP 91 everyone was happy and things went back to normal, the bitcoin cash fork was the one that did not affect the price, but now we are talking once again about the possible split that may come from segwit2x, so I think a dump in the price is coming if the fork keeps going as planned.

Of course this fork will happen as always, but in my own opinion this will go a lot of challenging moments right now and we can't control those people to feel bad at all just for that speculations. But if we felt advantages that them, then let's just respect their decisions as they dumped their holdings with a specific purpose. Forking normally happened and you can't prevent it.
895  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you see trading as fun and games? on: September 07, 2017, 11:54:52 PM
Trading is not a game but it is your future on the line. To make Fun while trading might appropriate than thinking of it as just a game. Desperation is not effect from too much seriousness but might be lack of knowledge about what he is doing and what coin he is investing with. Maybe anyone who treated this as a game are those who have much money or bitcoin and never really rely on profits and their investments.
trading is not something game, but may think can add a little game so that at the time of trading we can feel relaxed and not too panic. may be used as a serious 70% merge and 30% games. so that at the time of trading we can feel enjoy.
Some people consider trading is as a game it's because they don't really master the techniques,
but if we can master all techniques in trading then we can make trading as a main job.
Yes others might think that way because who wants to be serious all the time on something? So it's better to think that trading is a game for it can help you to live healthy in terms of making yourself enjoyable. In addition, you won't be worried of the things that is going on right now. Strategies in trading are being posted in social medias so it will be easier for you to trade wisely. Therefore, bitcoin trading is both for fun and games.
896  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin huge fees on: September 07, 2017, 11:32:05 PM
now i make a transction For 9$ i pay 3$ fee in blockchain.info
shapeshift charged me to change 20$ from ethereum to bitcoin 10$. 50% commision ! nasty greedy company.
the fees in bitcoin are way higher than banks

yup in my country also there is a huge if when i always cash out my money. almost 2$, its very expensive i cant take it anymore. next time i will save more money before having a withdraw with a low amount of money. Bitcoin transaction is very expensive nowadays.
I guess it is possible to happen now that many people are using bitcoin for business purposes because they can see brighter future coming from bitcoin and that's even more profitable for them and they can handle things well with the business that they are putting up and at the same time they can gain more of coins from different resources.
897  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Turn $10,000 into 1 Million on: September 07, 2017, 10:54:20 PM
That is possible guys, i think that if someone invest $10k in 10 coins wich are below $0.50 at the moment, it can be turned into one million in a few years. It will only mean x10 in some years. It looks like it is too difficult, but i dont think it so.
The same scenario will happen if someone invest $1000 in one of those coins, that type of altcoins suddenly go up and make 20% - 40% at least at every dump.


That's not impossible to happen because at the very beginning bitcoin is soaring higher and higher and get even more fame coming from people who have been investing for so many years now. That only proves that bitcoin could expand bigger and brighter future ahead of the industry wherever it may go. Consequently,that amount will go for more and the rest of the demands of people will continuously soaring high.
898  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin or other coins on: September 07, 2017, 10:25:49 PM
what make bitcoin better and incomparable to the other cryptocoins  ?

In my own opinion, bitcoin is in demand as of now and bitcoin is the most popular among the rest (altcoins). But I will buy some altcoins for investement purpose, because I really believe that other coins has a potential to be pump near in the future.
We have the same bet. Of course I would choose bitcoin because it is the main source of everything since from the beginning. It all started from that coin so forever I will be grateful on this coin compare to other coins which varies the price. And for me if coins have different prices,I will be more confused. So I'd rather choose bitcoin instead of other coins.
899  Economy / Economics / Re: Bank on: September 07, 2017, 01:09:04 PM
Bank Indonesia bans double swiping to prevent data theft
Is this bank intended to banks in every countries? You are referring to Indonesia banks so when did it happen about the double swiping ban? My country hasn't encountered any issue yet but I guess that's a nice rule to obey for the benefit of workers,professionals or non-prefossionals. As you can see now scammers or hackers are like viruses that spreads in every way. We are always thinking for a quarantine if it has because it's difficult to handle such things like that.
900  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen if BTC was Banned? on: September 06, 2017, 11:48:48 PM
What do you guys think it would happen if all the governments in the world declared bitcoin to be illegal?
How do you think the community would react? What could be the possible solutions?
People will continue to trade, only in the shade. What gives a small profit can never be crushed by anything, will find ways to solve this problem. They will not completely disconnect the Internet or crawl into users' computers, even traffic is difficult to track.
That's going to be hard for us and if people will continue to trade then we will surely not gonna see the same volume like we are having today.
Bitcoin is popular now because of it's usefulness but when the government will declare it's illegal to use it then it's not safe for us anymore and we will make sure we will not gonna make problem and be in jail so probably we will have no choice but to stop.
We have similar thought mate! Why do you think that we will put into jail if geoverment declares the legalization of bitcoin? I don't think so because they can also get profit from bitcoin fairly if they allow themselves to invest on their own but if it's still the same system like corruption occurs under the table,it will be very hard tp monitor. It would be very difficult for us if bitcoin was banned. As one of the sources of income bitcoin plays several roles in our lives and I think it is really satisfying for us because it has helped us through thick and thin. Though the coins vary with value but considering it's usefulness makes it worthwhile. So please don't ban bitcoin.
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