The difference is the files themselves are contraband, making it a crime within the US for them to exist there. Discussing and coordinating ponzis within a country that it is legal IS NOT A CRIME, even if the server is hosted in the US. One simple question for you. If you really believe the forum is itself operating illegally, why hasn't it been shut down? Do you think no one has tried to report the forum before to authorities or regulatory agencies? You are very naive.

One more time, for reference: https://ilt.eff.org/index.php/Copyright:_Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act#DMCA.E2.80.99s_Safe_Harbors_for_Online_Service_Providers

^ mostly refers to civil liability

http://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1838&context=btlj

^ Applies to criminal liability

Have you simply logged out and tried to log back in with your new password? As far as I understand it there are no password change confirmation emails, because if an attacker got into your account he could just change your email anyway. I might be wrong about that last part. Can anyone confirm that BCT does not send pw change confirmation emails which need to be clicked to change the pw??

Nope. Your scenario would mean actual illegal images were hosted or displayed on the forum, which would remove the question of jurisdiction.  Furthermore child pornography is illegal in most of the world, not just the US. If there is a legitimate use for the section ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, then it is legal by default. If staff are notified of any activity that is criminal in any of the participating users jurisdictions, they do take efforts to stop or remove the offending posts, satisfying the requirement of due dilligence. Furthermore as it exists the ponzis are just discussed and coordinated on the forum without the direct assistance of BCT, the actual ponzis operate in the individual's home country, not on the BCT host. If BCT actually hosted the ponzis you might have a point, but your example fails when examined closely.

I was under the impression that this forum did not use email confirmations to reset passwords.

Sorry but your "understanding" of law leaves something to be desired. You are mistaken.

The forum is not necessarily hosted in the US for one (not sure where it is). Second US law has provisions protecting service providers for the illegal activities of their users as long as they are not directly involved in the activities of course, beyond being a service provider like hosting a forum. Otherwise, how could any international corporation operate ever? There will always be conflicts of national law between an individuals country of residence and the country they operate within. Jurisdiction is a very important legal foundation of criminal law.

Second, if 2 people on Pluto want to plan a ponzi on the forum, and ponzis are legal on Pluto, then it really doesn't matter what the law is anywhere else, because as residents of Pluto, no US laws were violated, meaning there is no legal liability. There may be some newer exceptions to this as the UN and Interpol wrestle jurisdiction away from national governments and begin imposing the laws of every other nation upon individuals in their own home countries.

I have done my research, long ago. That is how I know you are mistaken.

I don't remember. If you really wanted to know, criminal records are public domain. Shouldn't be too hard to find out if you really care. IMO the OP is mistaken, and he is referencing another M. Marquardt. As my posting history indicates I am not the biggest Theymos fan either, so I have no reason to cover for him. His documents are out there if you bother to look. I will not be providing them though, so don't ask.

This is not him. I have seen his mugshot. For one, he is much younger.

Just wanted to make a note here for anyone I am in contact with.

I made this post talking about how Quickseller is likely feeding information about sold accounts to Badbear: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065045.msg11417614#msg11417614

The next day he was removed from his trust list.


Now I am making posts in the thread about the trust system changes: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066857.msg11437948#msg11437948

suddenly I am off topic and I am getting warnings from Badbear, and he has blocked me from sending messages to him. Draw your own conclusions. Just wanted to have this recorded in case he arbitrarily decides I am too off topic to be allowed to use the forum any more.

He hasn't offered anything but words. Now thanks to Theymo's new trust modifications, my trust of over 3 years is effectively null because of Vod's negative rating. He has the ability to remedy this situation, but refuses. His words are meaningless when he takes no action.

So in effect, what you are saying is that the trust system is no longer about who trades and who is trusted with what, rather it is now about a popularity contest, and who you can convince to join your own circlejerk club. Can you explain to me why I deserve to be excluded from the entire default trust tree over one rating while Vod can negative rate me (and lots of others) without repercussion negating my entire trust over the fact that he doesn't like what I have to say about him? Every time you "improve" the trust system it becomes more and more arbitrary and able to be manipulated from the top.

He has one hand outstretched while the other twists the knife he stuck in me. This is not the kind of freedom I am looking for.

To bad there is no standard of evidence any more and instead it just becomes a popularity contest of who can build the best speculative story.

Unfortunately it DOES need rebooting, only not like you are thinking. In order to bring it up to current Bitcoin protocol security and other update standards we will need to completely rewrite the code and likely do a burn and exchange. I have NO plans to change the number of coins, or otherwise make other drastic fundamental changes to the protocol beyond implementing standard protocols for security. IFC has done well but it can do much better if we can find a dedicated, trustworthy developer, and funding to keep him around. I see the path to Infinitecoins success, but I can't (and won't) keep dragging this ship by myself.

I need the community to step forward and help make this happen. I know some of you are making a lot of money right now. Do you want to make a whole lot more? Set some aside and reserve it for helping move development of this coin forward, and I believe we can go way past even the tops we had before at #8 market cap. The IFC fundamentals are strong, I don't want to fix something that isn't broken. I do however know we have room for improvement, and should focus on the infrastructure of the IFC network first as always. I know everyone wants the quick shot in the arm of marketing because it sends the price up, but what goes up must come down. If the system is not secure enough or robust enough to support the traffic that marketing brings, what happens to your price then along with the entire Infinitecoin name? After all this is supposed to be a MEANS OF EXCHANGE, not a stock. In order for it to be a means of exchange it needs to function efficiently and securely.

Seriously? You have the nerve to say I am the one seeking drama here when that is literally all that Vod does all day? He is averaging about 5 negative trust ratings a day now. All I am seeking to do is have my trust ratings restored and or have Vod removed from the default trust list because of his abusive actions, something other members have to deal with, but not Vod for some reason. Get a life and stop being Vod's buttboy shill.


It is oh so gracious of you to speak about reconciliation when you are the only one to have caused harm, and you have the ability to remove that harm. What did I do to you? I was critical of your behavior in public! Wow! How will you ever recover from that? You are a hypocrite, and this is nothing but a childish tactic to try to put me on the defensive over abuses YOU perpetrated. Its real fuckin easy to say lets all just put this behind us when you have done your damage and refuse to even fix it.

Hey everyone, there is a problem with trust! Instead of solving the problem, lets make a new subforum to bury the symptoms instead of focusing on the cause. Sounds like a good plan.

You did ask me to give something, you asked me to give concessions to some one who has not only perpetrated this abuse to begin with, but has refused to make any concessions of his own.

When you get Vod to take some action let me know. Until then save your friendship speech, because the whole concept is nothing but a decisive strategy for him to appear to be taking the moral high ground when he perpetrated this to begin with. He is not interested in restoring anything, he is just flapping his lips and finger tips trying to obfuscate his actions.

Just speculation, especially considering Badbear is the one who added quickseller to the default trust list. But there is motive, means, and opportunity. No it wouldn't hurt his sales, because as I stated this creates a situation where MORE of a supply is needed. Scammers probably steal enough to make up for the cost anyway. Also I am sure they keep it on the downlow. They probably wait a few weeks to make it look less suspicious. Of course it is a breech of trust, but so would the admins reading pms randomly fishing for information wouldn't it? Quickseller has already demonstrated questionable morals, why put this past him?

I don't owe any of you anything. He is in the wrong. He is the one that needs to take reconciliatory actions. [/end discussion of your little diplomatic mission]