Is there an ETA on its return?
Probably they will just wait for the new forum. Also, this should go under the Meta section.
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blockchain is a part of bitcoin, like death is a part of the life
Death is the absence of life. Are you saying that the blockchain is the absence of bitcoin? Or otherwise?
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Why would you want to use a separate blockchain when you have an existing, extensible technology? All these kind of "projects" will give bitcoin more worth and intrinsic value.
Use the existing blockchain for EVERYTHING - it makes it more powerful actually if everyone is involved with everything.
I don't get how smart contracts working on top of Bitcoin (but not being Bitcoin themselves) will give Bitcoin “more intrinsic value”. Bitcoin is already worthy by its own merits. We don't need a savior project (or a “killer app” as these people like to call it, or whatever) to give Bitcoin value. Also, about everything using the same blockchain... Well, it can be both. You can either use Bitcoin's blochckain for this, or create a new one (I'm not sure if that would be an alt coin or not). I guess it doesn't matter. It is just my opinion (and nothing else) that the blockchain should be exclusively used for money.
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I agree there's not much confusion now.
But imagine developing upon a protocol called the Dollar and you spend dollars. It'll become a more confusing term in the future if bitcoin ever becomes a mainstream currency. The blockchain is MORE than just a currency.
I want to create contracts, social media, and various apps (anything that needs ownership) using this ledger/consensus technology. The actual world-changing protocol should not have the same name as the currency that stems from it.
Just my $.02
The problem is that Bitcoin was designed as a currency, nothing more. Yes, the concept of the blockchain is a great invention that can be used for smart contracts and the like, but the blockchain used by Bitcoin was meant to log currency transactions. It's cool that people are using Bitcoin's blockchain for things such as Proof of existence, but I think an independent (i.e. not Bitcoin's) blockchain should be ideal for these kind of projects.
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I'm sorry, but I fail to see the confusion here.
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You compare the blockchain to the Internet, but I think this is wrong. The blockchain is an implementation detail (a very important one, but just implementation), while the Internet is just the idea. The implementation of Internet relies on TCP/IP. So, as I see it:
Bitcoin = Internet Blockchain = TCP/IP
And, no, we shouldn't talk about “Blockchain” (which will create confusion with Blockchain.info, which is kind of brand now).
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Bitcoin 2.0 is just a buzzword ... I look forward to Bitcoin 0.9.4
The BTC foundation has very little to do with the bitcoin ecosystem and is becoming more and more obsolete everyday.
It did came out as far as I know [citation needed]
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Actually we already have many Bitcoin2.0s like NXT Ethereum that are much more advanced than Bitcoin, however , as we can see, the Bitcoin2.0s are not popular, obviously we don't need a new Bitcoin , the Bitcoin is perfect enough .
These are NOT Bitcoin 2.0, they are separate projects with no relationship with Bitcoin whatsoever. People really need to understand what “2.0” actually means: it's the second major version of a program, protocol, etc. Bitcoin is not even in version 1.0, so asking what will happen with it is like asking what you will be doing with your life in 2050.
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If you're testing, you should ask for TestNet coins and send them yourself. That way you control everything that's going on
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Paper money is fine but COINS suck. Was in a long line at the movies and, you guessed it, some a-hole insisted on digging through his pockets to pay with exact change. Seemed to take hours.
What should we do, then? Have 1˘ bills?
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If an update to Bitcoin 2 meant the loss of all bitcoins, not a single person would update.
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“Mark my words”, as everyone here likes to say.
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Some are equally distributed throughout users
How does this even work? Again, every altcoin uses different method of doing it. Some of them let you register on their site and it gives you out pre-set ammount of coins etc. I mean, how can this logically work? How do you determine who is “everyone” so you can distribute money equally? People are being constantly born every minute. Do they already get their amount, without even knowing it? How can you prove that nobody tries to claim another person's amount?
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You still need to explain how is Gavin's hard fork proposal evil or otherwise not good for us.
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Some are equally distributed throughout users
How does this even work?
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This really could be a good thing if controlled properly.
That ended a world war! I think it started it, in fact.
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It was never intended to be used on the massive scale that it is today, admitatly still small.
What makes you think this?
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The movie Gattaca is relevant to this discussion. You should watch it.
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I honestly don't know why people suggest we can't buy much with Bitcoin. Especially easy if you live in North America. http://www.overstock.comBut most people don't live in North America. I live in Mexico (still North America, but still not the USA). I can't do much here yet.
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