Wise as usual Phillip.  I wish I'd bought in with 1080tis like you did, miss seeing them for <$700.  Missed some good deals but at the time 1070s and 4/580s were available and still seemed like the sweet spot.  I've sold one of my first 480 rigs off to buy a few 1080tis now.  Hope there's some decent sales/rebates on them in the near future.

I figure if anything will have a decent resale price after the next ice age it'll be the tis.

There's actually more than a few different options out there.

Staking coins, obviously work well in an interest yield fashion like:
1337
DMD
BlockNet
Espers

Masternode coins mostly need a substantial up front investment but yield better than pure staking, like:
DASH
ChainCoin

There's coins with unique node types in development but I don't think any are fully developed at the moment, thinking of:

ZenCash (secure nodes)
XtraBytes (static nodes)

Then there's different tokens that have various profit sharing schemes:

TAAS
Etheroll
Peerplay

Lastly, there's coins with potential earnings either in splits/snapshots/or unique token distributions:

Spreadcoin - will have a 1:1 distribution of Helium at the end of this month for holders
Waves - simply holding WAVES tokens in your wallet earns certain payouts, as well as being eligible for various (usually worthless) airdrops

and there's always the intrinsic value growth by simply holding coins/tokens of valuable and developing projects that plan to offer real world applications.

ZDASH/HUSH has been a long play for a while.  They certainly have committed devs and a solid network, both of which are strong indicators of success.  I wish I hadn't flipped as much as I did in the past but certainly holding strong for now.

EXACTLY what he said.

PIVX has shockingly fast deposit confirm times.  I knew the "I" was supposed to stand for Instant, but I never realized just how quick they do transfer until I moved some around last week.

I'm seriously considering shedding some AMDs now, the prices are still decent and with summer electricity prices it's depressing.  Not going to ditch my nvidias though, and will probably flip the money I get from the AMDs into a few 1080tis.  There's definitely still profit potential, and we're probably losing in the long term by selling now even at these inflated prices, but I want to downsize my footprints and consolidate into cards that will be more viable long-term, plus having 1080tis in rigs plus my main desktop will make me feel less bad whenever I want to play a game.  I feel dirty knowing I'm losing money just to be entertained for a few hours.

Are BB distributed yet from the last drop?

This is sadly, probably one of the best current applications for a smart contract token.  Awesome and depressing at the same time.

boom!  Was waiting for a bag to hit to get some BTC for tomorrows byte drop.

Thanks Sparky, you beat me to it

*facepalm* *headdesk*

mBTC correlates DIRECTLY to fiat (r=1 actually)

mBTC earning is proportional to market prices, usually translated to USD

with price volatility AND ever increasing diff earnings CAN'T be predicted for any amount of time

earnings per card are VIRTUALLY GUARANTEED to steadily DECREASE over time only

there's plenty of auto-converting pools that do the same as nicehash you seem to be missing (you could provide miners with a pre-configured .bat and achieve the same simplicity)

a member already offered to help set up your own pool if control was a concern

there's other profit switching multi-algo miners available



Spend time to read the info out there, learn the intricacies, ESPECIALLY if you're going to have a fiduciary responsibilty

Has this been vetted for legality in the US?  There's some fairly sticky regs surrounding fundraising and share ownership that makes ventures like this dangerous, as I understand it.

Cool idea regardless, also I think drone racing has some serious potential.

I'd anticipate to see a steady rise in SPR through July until the helium snapshot, it'll probably look a lot like what happened with Zen/ZCL.

I'm trying to envision ANY scenario where you'd want to do that which would be good for the dPOW coin holder but can't think of any, is there something I'm missing?

Only if people buy them over standard cards too though.  Newbies and farms might but more well researched folks will probably avoid them.  As such I expect to see a very slow ramp up to production on them because the manufacturer's don't want a glut of inventory sitting on their hands, so they'll only push them out as much as they can forecast demand.  I think we'll see them boom, then taper to a niche segment and will probably continue to see some price pressure on standard GPUs.

There's little manufacturer's can do to truly dissuade people from using a standard GPU over a "mining" GPU, unless they start to hobble the "standard" cards in hardware against mining, which would (I'd think) cause a massive loss of reputation from the manufacturers.  Although knowing how corporate thought processes go, I could see that being a next step.

They obviously don't want to pay the increased RMA costs associated with mining stresses, but I'd think they also don't want to lose a massive customer base that's making them considerable profits.

I suspect rising difficulty and an eventual larger scale price correction will have more to do with sane pricing coming back over the impact these (for now) very limited power and quantity cards will have.

And a giant MOON decal on the ceiling

Something I've never been able to really understand why there's two different names, and what they represent, the "Est. Rewards" and "Est. Rewards 24h", the numbers vary somewhat signifigantly at times and I can't seem to intuit what each is really trying to represent.  The 24h number is always higher than the non-24 estimate.

The best I can figure is one is a spot check of nethash and diff, and the other is a 24h average of nethash and diff.  Is that accurate, or is it something else?

Seems unless you have bios modded or hardware modded the cards they'd be pretty hard pressed to say/prove it was used as such.  Also many states/countries have pretty tough laws around modifying warranty terms and what doesn't void a warranty.  At least for cars in the USA technically modifying your car still doesn't void it's warranty, i'd think there's an extrapolation to be made to other warranties from that too.

I think we need to wait for the consumer cards to get into the wild so the programmers can play with them before we know their real potential.  By all accounts it seems it will be incremental instead of revolutionary anyway.

That's not far off.  I checked what I'd paid for some cards back in Jan/Feb a little while ago and saw 470s @ $150 and 480s @ ~$200 but those included rebates on top of that, so the prices listed are on the high side.  A 580 is probably retail value for gaming about $200 so they're running at about 250% markup IF you can find one for sale, which is insane.  I've bought a few 1080tis since the surge because their prices have stayed pretty stable and they were for my main desktop anyway so I justified it that they were for games as well, during downtime, although I find it hard to bring myself to play a game now knowing that i'm losing money by playing