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921  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 24, 2019, 08:35:39 AM
If the Nordic conception of the Earth and sky is correct and, if the structure is shaped like a Mandelbrot when viewed from the exterior and, if the the Bible is correct in its various translations regarding the fountains of the deep occasionally sending water sky high then, there's the door. I suspect that if you travel through the land of Hades you'll find a central access point, then you're free to go swim in the abyss (~100% H2O) as you wish.

BADecker wants us to believe Aristotle proved we live on the surface of a sphere thousands of years ago. In reality he said nature abhors a vacuum and like Newton and Eisenstein who came after him, riding in one dick on-top of another, provides all the the tools and information needed to prove that, whatever theory made them famous is false and wrong.






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922  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 23, 2019, 10:21:30 PM
That partially frozen bubble is hanging on nothing; it's supported due to its geometric shape. Even without the surface, the bubble could be made from steel then partially filled with water and submerged, thus making it neutrally buoyant and motionless. A square platform on pillars could be constructed with features rising above the water in the bubble. Finally above the sphere of the earth's dome we could have a smaller sphere with an environment that will support a very intelligent and creative two mile tall dude with a beard; I'm seeing a Mandelbrot style structure surrounded by water.
923  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 22, 2019, 04:10:01 PM




Don't feel bad about using the word atmosphere, it forms a hemisphere in between the flat earth and the concave dome.
924  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 18, 2019, 05:53:08 AM
^^^ A steer is a male cow.






Sargent use to say some annoying things. However, the answers he gives these days are very well researched and thought out.










FYI, it's possible to subvert the forced list of shitty and misleading "flat earth" videos YouTube's search returns and, re-enable filtering to view new and popular videos again.

1. Go to Google,
2. enter "video",
3. click the videos tab,
4. click the tools button [Accessing the search from Google's front-end subverts YouTube's compartmentalized censorship at a point where their CEO has no power to order the technicians to disable filtering, this way you can sort the videos as you wish],
5. enter "flat earth",
6. view any new videos in the last hour, day, week, etc.. or sort by other options [filtering is currently disabled/broken on YouTube's search],



edit:
7. click the tools button again to hide the filter tabs and show the number of hits, a feature YouTube removed to hide the number of FE videos made [there were 2,210 unique "flat earth" YouTube videos made in the last 24 hours].
925  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 17, 2019, 02:13:17 PM
^^^ That ancient poz-chan meme is un-ironic and forced.





In regards to Hollywood productions a lot of people have paid to see Behind the Curve (2018), I have not. What I have seen is from two of the featured flat earthers. The first is shown observing the detection of the rotation of the stars above us, this rotation was also detected in the 1887 M&M experiment; the M&M results were negative (no earth motion). The second had sections of his experiment edited out when the light was seen, and sections where it was blocked by shrubbery shown as some kind of proof.

This is a mock-u-mentary; fake news. They take your money then they mock you for your stupidity, they delight in knowing you believe bullshit.

It's not as anti-FE as you might expect. The movie focuses on the people in the Flat Earth movement, primarily Mark Sargent and Patricia Steere. The only time when it might be considered anti-FE is when it turns to Jeran Campanella and Bob Knodel and their experiments that were not showing the results they expected.

Bob wasn't expecting to see a rotation measured with the "gyroscope". The ultra-sensitive fiberoptic device he was observing was in fact an optical interferometer that measures aether displacement. What was measured, was the motion of the static aether disturbed by the 23h 56m rotational cycle of the stars. The movie producers illegitimately act like it's because the earth's actually globe and Robert is an idiot who didn't expect to observe the earth's claimed rotation. Guess what boys, I'm sorry to spoil your heavenly ball in the sky on Uranus but, there's 24h in a day. That alone debunks your monkey puke without losing the audience to a long drawn-out argument on optical physics.

Jeran was foiled unexpectedly by a shrub running interference in the line of sight. The unethical producer cherry-picked shots that didn't show a light then illegitimately acted like Jeran failed because he was too dumb to accept the claim that earth is globe.

To put it in simple terms this movie is unethical and misleading. They profited from movie sales, supported the globe hoax and, cost Bob thousands in contracts while portraying Jeran as a crazy old cat lady.



926  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 17, 2019, 08:13:42 AM
^^^ The Sun is further away than in height, this creates an extremely shallow angle that allows the rays to strike parts of the clouds on the bottom. When the rays hit bits of the clouds they diffuse the light and glow. If you observe the clouds closest to the camera only bits of the very tips on the underside are lit; the Sun is so far away compared to its height that the rays are almost completely horizontal, they've passed through so much atmosphere only the long reddish wavelengths aren't filtered out. Convergence optically shrinks the clouds with distance and all those bits of light clump together due to foreshortening thus, creating the optical effect of evenly lit clouds in the distance.

TL;DR - Clouds aren't completely flat on the bottom, there are puffy vertical bits that stick out, get lit and cause diffraction.




@badecker, you wanted to explain how the direction of light can be changed by interacting with clouds, now's your chance to explain this phenomenon.

edit:
I'm sure there's hours worth of reading on 'the optical effects of diffraction gratings', Google has a pile of scholarly articles ready for you, all sorted by an AI that seems to have a really good sense for bullshit when its results aren't being dictated to it by brick & mortar jews.


[Talbot Carpets]

edit2, bonus link:
China’s Govt. Corruption-Fighting AI Works Too Well – Gets Shut Down -- https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2019/02/__trashed-14/
927  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 16, 2019, 06:42:15 PM
^^^ We're inside an enclosed system, a high-tech superstructure including a steel dome that holds a pressurized atmosphere over a motionless plain. You're not launching anything but a weather balloon into the jet-stream to circle above the plain of the earth. There's no outer space because there's a solid barrier in the way, you can't put a fucking car into "orbit".



You're gullible fucking moron living in a cartoon universe on an animated cartoon ball. It's not just you either, everybody is fucking loony toons!












In regards to Hollywood productions a lot of people have paid to see Behind the Curve (2018), I have not. What I have seen is from two of the featured flat earthers. The first is shown observing the detection of the rotation of the stars above us, this rotation was also detected in the 1887 M&M experiment; the M&M results were negative (no earth motion). The second had sections of his experiment edited out when the light was seen, and sections where it was blocked by shrubbery shown as some kind of proof.

This is a mock-u-mentary; fake news. They take your money then they mock you for your stupidity, they delight in knowing you believe bullshit.
928  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 16, 2019, 02:20:20 PM
^^^ The globe is an act of war, I'm being lied to with sinister intentions. If you're lying to my face and I can prove it ten ways from Sunday what's wrong with telling you to fuck off and die?



929  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 16, 2019, 10:34:14 AM
YouTube just told everybody who searches "flat earth" to fuck off, it no longer sorts flat earth videos! I get the same list of hand picked bullshit MSM hit-piece videos no matter what. To get around their fucked up list of videos I would sort them by last hour, today, this week, etc.. but now the sort feature doesn't work anymore.

The folks claiming we're on a globe are losing the argument so badly they have to get YouTube to censor both recommendations and now the ability to sort and filter flat earth content. You get their list of shitty hand picked videos no matter what you search.

The fact the globalist have to use dirty tactics like censorship, modified search results and spamming channels to death with false copyright claims is just more proof they're fucking liars, brainwashed morons and cucks. The truth doesn't require protection from criticism!
930  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 15, 2019, 04:46:17 PM
Flat Earth map (1943):

931  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 15, 2019, 12:26:25 PM
^^^ Don't you ever get concerned that you'll sail up, over and off the curve into the great abyss with all your oil?

You know, Columbus almost had mutiny when his crew who believed the church propaganda regarding the Earth being a globe thought they'd sail off the side! Fortunately he was able to convince them the ocean doesn't curve and there was no danger of falling off

The moral of the story here is that you're an idiot who spent 7 years at sea and never learned how a sextant works, oblivious to the fact that water is always flat and level. GG mate.
932  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 15, 2019, 07:16:53 AM
^^^ Well it's a good thing I used the shadow cast by a hot air balloon to prove my point [that the suns rays are divergent and cast by a small close source], your pre-programmed NPC-esque rebuttal doesn't address this situation. You look like a massive fool retreating to the safety of the non-sequitur argument of trying to explain away crepuscular rays with perspective when convergence doesn't splay vertical lines. You're trying debunk the size of a shadow with not only the wrong argument but one that's provably false, because you have no argument.

The jig is up! Space and the heavenly spheres are fake and gay; the world is not a globe.
933  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 14, 2019, 04:45:04 AM
^^^ Convergence doesn't splay vertical lines, if the Sun is overhead shining down the rays are not going to be affected by convergence, that is unless they're coming from a sunset with the Sun a low angle.

In your example using an image of parallel tree trunks, you take a side view then show a 2nd view with the camera rotated 90 degrees pointed up. The fucking tree trunks are no longer vertical, you've changed the perspective so they're all horizontal with respect to the camera you deceptive faggot. The images of crepuscular rays posted above all have a horizontal view, the camera isn't pointed up.

I'm not cherry-picking optical effects here, you guys claiming we're on a globe are deceptive faggots.
934  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 13, 2019, 06:45:01 AM
^^^ It's funny how this globohomo can't understand the optical effects of perspective and convergence when he needs a boat to sail up, over and behind the curve. However, when he needs to explain crepuscular he claims perspective is the sole cause and that flat earthers don't understand science.



What a hypocritical faggot.
935  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 11, 2019, 05:14:49 PM
^^^ You ignore the effect of refraction, take an optical effect it causes, then claim it's proof of a globe; your proof is non-sequitur, "present-day measurement" does not prove a globe. The Earth is observably and measurably flat and motionless.

The first thing the Bible tells us on page one is that we're covered by a dome or firmament, right there the heliocentric model and the globe goes out the window. I can guarantee you 100% the Bible does not support the heliocentric model nor does it support the Earth having any motion. In fact the ESV states point blank that the Earth is a plain.

You better read your Bible again. Your dome was really a water shell around the globe, protecting us from bad radiation from the sun and stars. It was changed and mostly destroyed when the floodgates of the heavens were opened during the Great Flood. That's why people began to age rapidly after the flood. By the time of Abraham, people only lived to less than 200. By the time of Moses, they were down to a little over 100. Today we barely reach 100 because of the damage caused by the radiation that the floodgate shell held back before the flood.

The Bible isn't for proving FE or GE. That's why you can twist its meaning for ignorant people who don't understand what the Bible is there for.

Remember right in Genesis, how God caused the firmament (sky), which separated the waters above from the waters below? He never placed an iron/steel dome there to hold the waters back. It all had to do with gravity and centrifugal force on globe earth.

Cool



^^^ LOL, so now you're going to claim the same geocentric model the RCC held in in 1633, they're full-blown heliocentrists now BTW. The New world order is a fraud, the Earth is not a globe and gravity is a hoax.
936  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 11, 2019, 07:55:21 AM
Galileo Galilei admitted the heliocentric model is bullshit and that he was a liar:

The model of the universe that Galileo was forced to accept by the Catholic church included a spherical Earth. Nobody at that time believed that the Earth is flat. The belief in a flat earth is a recent phenomenon.


The Pope could believe in little green men from Mars for all I care, the Bible says Earth is a motionless plain covered by a dome. The biblical description is in complete agreement with observations made using the scientific method. Galileo's claims were neither inline with the scientific method nor were they inline with the RCC interpretation of scripture; the fact is he admitted in writing that he was lying about the Earth moving around the Sun.
937  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 11, 2019, 06:52:25 AM
The #1 hit for 'flat earth' on YouTube is *surprise* Logan Paul! YouTube has put their faith in Logan Paul to bring globe truth to the next generation, will their investment pay off?







THE FLAT EARTH: To The Edge And Back (OFFICIAL TRAILER) -- https://youtu.be/JmGc8J30Kso


^^^ Currently getting 70.9k views an hour.
938  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 11, 2019, 03:35:54 AM
^^^ You ignore the effect of refraction, take an optical effect it causes, then claim it's proof of a globe; your proof is non-sequitur, "present-day measurement" does not prove a globe. The Earth is observably and measurably flat and motionless.

The first thing the Bible tells us on page one is that we're covered by a dome or firmament, right there the heliocentric model and the globe goes out the window. I can guarantee you 100% the Bible does not support the heliocentric model nor does it support the Earth having any motion. In fact the ESV states point blank that the Earth is a plain.
939  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 10, 2019, 12:47:12 PM
^^^ These people (you) are so blind to the truth they reject actual science, formal logic and direct measurement because they believe a picture in a book or a video on TV is real. They live on a photo-realistic painting in a cartoon fantasy world ruled by a shadowy mysterious force. They see the lights on the ceiling and have fantasies about heavy balls in the sky complete with a saucer shaped tin-cans full lizard monkeys from Venus on their way to a party on Uranus.










Galileo Galilei admitted the heliocentric model is bullshit and that he was a liar:

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I, Galileo, son of the late Vincenzo Galilei, Florentine, aged seventy years, arraigned personally before this tribunal, and kneeling before you, Most Eminent and Reverend Lord Cardinals, Inquisitors-General against heretical depravity throughout the entire Christian commonwealth, having before my eyes and touching with my hands, the Holy Gospels, swear that I have always believed, do believe, and by God's help will in the future believe, all that is held, preached, and taught by the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. But whereas -- after an injunction had been judicially intimated to me by this Holy Office, to the effect that I must altogether abandon the false opinion that the sun is the center of the world and immovable, and that the earth is not the center of the world, and moves, and that I must not hold, defend, or teach in any way whatsoever, verbally or in writing, the said false doctrine, and after it had been notified to me that the said doctrine was contrary to Holy Scripture -- I wrote and printed a book in which I discuss this new doctrine already condemned, and adduce arguments of great cogency in its favor, without presenting any solution of these, and for this reason I have been pronounced by the Holy Office to be vehemently suspected of heresy, that is to say, of having held and believed that the Sun is the center of the world and immovable, and that the earth is not the center and moves:

Therefore, desiring to remove from the minds of your Eminences, and of all faithful Christians, this vehement suspicion, justly conceived against me, with sincere heart and unfeigned faith I abjure, curse, and detest the aforesaid errors and heresies, and generally every other error, heresy, and sect whatsoever contrary to the said Holy Church, and I swear that in the future I will never again say or assert, verbally or in writing, anything that might furnish occasion for a similar suspicion regarding me; but that should I know any heretic, or person suspected of heresy, I will denounce him to this Holy Office, or to the Inquisitor or Ordinary of the place where I may be. Further, I swear and promise to fulfill and observe in their integrity all penances that have been, or that shall be, imposed upon me by this Holy Office. And, in the event of my contravening, (which God forbid) any of these my promises and oaths, I submit myself to all the pains and penalties imposed and promulgated in the sacred canons and other constitutions, general and particular, against such delinquents. So help me God, and these His Holy Gospels, which I touch with my hands.

I, the said Galileo Galilei, have abjured, sworn, promised, and bound myself as above; and in witness of the truth thereof I have with my own hand subscribed the present document of my abjuration, and recited it word for word at Rome, in the Convent of Minerva, this twenty-second day of June, 1633.

I, Galileo Galilei, have abjured as above with my own hand.



940  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: March 10, 2019, 03:18:10 AM
^^^ And he can't even give a logical, on-point explanation of something as simple as watching a boat or ship going over the horizon, when the eye/camera is only an inch above the water.

Cool

Because it's not simple however, at an inch you're going to get blocked by waves.

The horizon line is not at a fixed point, it's optics. With the human eye the vanishing point and horizon line are about 3 miles away for the average person. With a zoom lens the distance to the horizon changes and can be extended. Sitting, standing or on the top of the CN tower the horizon line is always at eye level, it moves with you because its an optical phenomenon created by convergence and perspective on a plain and not some curved surface a ship can sail up, over and behind.








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