Strategy of buying all the time on a regular basis works really well, so long as you have had a long investment time horizon of 4 or more years...

So, just continue buying, and then you do not have to worry about the many things that you list, TitanGEL... The only thing to worry about is merely getting your financial situation in order so that you are not buying more than you can afford to lose.. so that you do not get worried if the BTC price goes up or down. and surely if there happens to be some kind of BTC price dip, then just having a bit of extra cash on the side to buy more... and HODL through the matter, if you run out of cash.. which can take a while to get into profitability, and so far in bitcoin's history, no one has lost any money as long as they have been able to hold at least 4 years (which should also include some amounts of continued and prudent buying along the way, too).... but if you keep buying, then whatever you buy has at least a 4 year time frame before getting worried about whether that purchase was profitable or not.


Huh?  You seem to be lost... eg. in the wrong thread, reliable.  No one, here, is suggesting to fuck around with trying to stack more sats by selling.. but instead focusing on buying and HODLing.. as the title of the thread says..  Go figure.

Fair enough...

And better than pumping some nonsense shitcoin... how about HEX?... I have been getting a lot of spam e-mails about that nonsense, recently... for some strange reason...   

Surely, you are not the ONLY one devolving into politics..

It's been a long time divergence practice here (you know as well as me), even though I would also prefer to stick to talking about bitcoin..

Sometimes, though, peeps just cannot help but to bring up the topic and other peeps cannot help but to respond when other members are presenting such topic of the day issues and some of those members even reasonably believe that there is some kind of connection with bitcoin... sometimes there is...

I am thinking:  "This too shall pass."  

In other words, we just seem to be going through a kind of moment in which a lot of people are thinking and talking about such red headed political topic... Hot topic, yes, and hopefully soon NOT to be so hot, amiNOTrite?  

On the other hand, probably there is going to be some other HOT/political topic in the near future.. cannot completely write it off, seems to me.

Lauda already gave him red trust, before she exited, herself.

Personally, LFC, I would not be giving him (Bossian) any kind of out...

His feet need to be held to the fire... that fucktwat.

Not gonna happen... You cannot uncover some thing that is a fantasy, unless you plant such evidence.. or just make the shit up out of pie in the sky wishful thinking, which seems to be a lot of what has been happening in Trump's framing of such non-existing issue...

It's like the Ethereum folks making believe that they have an actual decentralized coin... Sounds good in theory.. but really there is hardly any evidence for such a phenomena in the wild.

Fraud in voting in the USA does not take place on the micro-level, it is more of a macro-problema... to the extent that such macro-level problems are investigated... or have tools in place to investigate... take voting machines for example, they have been designed in such a way that they cannot be audited.. get real.. They have a similar design as an ATM, but would any half-way intelligent ATM owner/operator choose to run an ATM that could not be audited?  We should be considering the extent to which fraud is taking place, and it is not regular Joes committing fraud... as much as fantasy thinkers would wish such to be the case.

I will quibble with your assertion of your own entering a mindrust moment - even though I can appreciate what you are suggesting about being in a similar "overleveraged" position and playing it in a non-cracking way, as opposed to mindrust's now emblematic cracking way.

In other words, well played sir! 

Sounds like you were in a bit of a tense situation, and that you had gambled a bit much in a way that ended up paying off decently well - use of leverage, which is usually NOT recommended (but if so, to attempt to accomplish, sparingly), and better to lock those gains (in order to pay off the debt that you incurred instead of gambling on UP that might end up petering out.. NOT saying that such UPpity is going to peter out, but many of us recognize that it is NOT good to risk your luck too much and don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.


Welcome back, Hairy dee party poop wannabe.   

Sure, even though we are not scheduled to hit $20k for this here calendar year, surely any of us can appreciate that such ATH vicinity numero is surely within fair strikening distancia, given some of the macro dynamics of the current times....

In udder wooords, should not be a total slave to the 4-year fractal, smacktal!!!!      #nohomo.

Who knows exactly the balance of whether taking such extreme stances cost Republican votes or inspire democrat votes.. and in the end, the same results in which the democrat votes outnumber the republican votes in the key battle states that cause the tipping of the electoral college towards the democrats and against the republicans.  

In other words, overall, Trump did seem to receive a large number of votes.  Lots of muricans don't seem to mind sabotaging of the postal service and some other strange actions, including publicly proclaiming that votes should not be counted and other unappealing kinds of ideas..

He also said a lot of stupid stuff in regards to the virus not existing and failing to take responsibility for the inadequacy of his herd immunity strategy, but lots of muricans did not seem to mind that either.. I mean, he still got a lot of votes despite such seemingly retarded ideas.

You have to live.  I mean you have expenses.  You cannot measure the mere fact that BTC has passed through your wallet as if you had any kind of reasonable and/or prudent ability to hold onto such BTC and to have been able to have lived a reasonable and respectful life.

Let's say that I could have been a multi-millionaire by the time that I was in my early 30s because I had millions of dollars pass through me.. but I happened to have spent the vast majority of such monies, just to live and some of the money passing through me had been to pay expenses in order to have been able to have earned such gross income.

What would have I done?  Lived with other peeps and had them pay for all my expenses.. How long could that work?  Not very long for normies who are not born with any kind of silver spoon in their mouths.  

Anyhow, my point about BTC passing through your wallet does not mean shit, and it even means less than shit if you have a business that involves earning in BTC.. Now if you have a business that earns dollars and you purchase BTC with those dollars, then it might be a bit more meaningful to expect that a higher percentage of the BTC that pass through your wallet would be within your reasonable and prudent ability to retain for the longer term.


Do you promise no speaking?    


I have heard of "orange" friend and I feel as if I know "orange" friend decently well, but as far as I know, I never have known a "yellow" friend, so far.

What is such mysterious, "yellow friend"?

Would it be to my advantage to be introduced or to become acquainted?


Yep... exactamente!!!!  Go figure.

 

For some strange reason, Bossian has not been very active in recent times.

Maybe he is not feeling so confident about his previous nonsense theories?  Not that he likely had believed such crap that he had been posting, previously, even though he placed bets (or was it just one bet?) that he is most likely NOT to pay.. but hey.. place a one-way bet, and collect upon such longshot bet if you win on the longshot, otherwise disaparecerse.

Nope.  I don't find that strange. 

Inner cities tend to have more people who lean democratic because they tend to be of traditionally underrepresented groups - and accordingly conclude that there could be a purpose for government in their interest to protect them from some of the extremes of rich-person focused politics that tend to be the direction of republican representatives.

Furthermore, republicans tend to target these kinds of inner-city areas in a variety of ways to cause more encumbrances on them - not only in terms of attempting to suppress the vote, but also in terms of causing more and more difficult to actually count votes that had actually been cast. 

The myth of corruption in counting votes tends to be overplayed, and there have been a lot of evidence that corruption in vote counting tends to come from black box voting dynamics from the various inauditable machines and things like that, and maybe in recent times there has been some more attempts to cause more audit-ability, by causing those counts to be more accountable to actual votes.

Greg Palast (and sure, there are others, too) has been investing the various forms of black box cheating dynamics since at least around the 2000 election time-frame.



If you had not noticed a pattern that has gone on since about the time that Clinton (Bill) got into office.  There had been gross overspending and sending of moneys to republican buddies (kind of trickle down aspirations) then when the democrat gets into office, there are pushes towards tightening up the belt.. so then by the time the next republican gets back in, then they can go crazy again... that happened for clinton and for obama and likely to happen for biden, too..  Sure, democrats have tended to get beat up by republicans so many times because they tend to try to play nice.. and republicans tend to take advantage of such niceness and engage in ruthlessness irresponsibility when they are in power...  and surely how does all the craziness end with more and more craziness in the money printing arena.. and perhaps this time, the democrats will try to continue with printing of money --- which seems irresponsible at this time, but the available solutions do not look good - especially when there is a likely a need to bring back production to the USA in a variety of ways, which could be helpful if it could actually happen.. but I have my doubts, too..


Actually, it is likely that the potential policies of Trump (to the extent that you could refer to them as policies) would be more friendly to bitcoin, but the fact of the matter seems to be that bitcoin does not give any shits about the president, including whether a Biden administration (to the extent that he is lucid at all) might be more hostile to bitcoin than the red headed self-absorbed twat... by the way, Lambie.. you would likely get along better with Trump, no?   Both of you seem to have strong exaggeration inclinations, no?

It is quite surprising that so many people vote for such a narcissistic self-absorbed dweeb, especially when his main duties would be to represent people and the public interest, which he seems totally incapable of carrying out such duties.  I suspect that there has been a decent amount of regular peeps who believe that it is in the public interest to diminish or destroy government, and for some reason, they believe that trump's self absorption actually ends up accomplishing their objectives.. Seems like a lack of actual introspection from a lot of normies to actually believe such a corrupt (and unwilling (more likely unable) to focus on anything beyond his own interests) person (referring to trump) actually is good for either the country or for the serving of their own interests.


Edit:  whoops, I got ahead of myself, and responding to your post below this one

Price goes up.  Price goes down.

Sure, we could continue going up.. Has happened many times; however, any of us should not be surprised by some kind of significant correction at some point, and the mere fact that such correction happens to coincide with some worldly events, so fucking what... does not mean that they are related exactly, even though they are happening at the same time.

We have not had any kind of meaningful correction since around early September and that was when we were dipping into the four digits.

I personally had been expecting some resistance after $13,880 (our previous local high) and then additional resistance in the sub $17,250 arena.. which would have been one of our bounce highs from December 2017.. but also significantly sub $17,250 would be within a certain reasonable percentage of our ATH --- 15% or so... which would represent entering into no man's zone.. or whatever proper name for such price area around previous ATH...

I have been kind of wonder too, if there may have been some movement of BTC price discovery from exchanges to OTC type avenues, especially if we have BIG institutions such as Square and Grayscale sucking up a lot of the coin supply.  From where are they getting their coins.  

I believe that Saylor had admitted getting a decent amount of his coins from various exchanges, but he did not really detail with any precision his sources of his BTC and/or exactly his methodology - even though he disclosed that he (likely involving some agents) had made 10s of thousands of BTC buying transactions over a relatively short period of time prior to October of this year..

Actually not even sure about when he started acquiring coins, exactly, but based on his purchase price disclosures and some other of the details that he disclosed, it seems to be that he likely had some somewhat clustered purchasing activities of BTC at least three times in the months of July (his own stash) August (his first acquisition of MSTR coins), September (his second acquisition of MSTR coins).

In any event, changes in on-exchange trade volume might not always give great indications regarding ongoing measure of sentiment, which seems to be part of what you are suggesting, hossamdz.


October 25, 2019 we had nearly $3k in less than 24 hours from $7,400 to $10,300.  I used to remember (seemingly incorrectly) that we had accomplished that BTC price move in a bit over 12 hours, but when go back and look at the one minute charts it seems that my memory is not what the historical charts are showing.

See this link to play around with the timeline:

https://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg60zig1-minzczsg2019-10-25zeg2019-10-26ztgMzm1g10zm2g25zv



By the way, as many of you more astute Wall Observers may recall, we shot up from $7,400 to $10,300 in less than 24 hours  on October 25, but then we trickled back down to $7,400 and even below $7,400 in the next month.. and then had a kind of mini-bear (feeling at the time) BTC consolidation in the upper $6ks/lower $7ks for a bit more than a month before entering into a beginning of 2020 mini-rally for a bit over a month.. to peak above $10k again before experiencing our movement into our March 12 rapid crash.  


Yes... see above.

Trump is no whipper snapper, so he may well be dead, or near dead in 2024... but would not put it past him to attempt some drama, even in his more elderly years... absent the various criminal charges that he is likely going to have to battle in the coming years because I doubt that democrats - or even regular peeps are going to be tolerant of the various ways that he abused his power in terms of financials and other eccentricities that go beyond the pale of the regular corrupt politicians in the USA.  There may be some allowance to sweep his extremes under the rug - but really would likely not be in the best interest of the country to allow him to get away with his various narcisistic and likely non-productive self-dealings and reckless with the public finances interminglings.

Huh?  You must have learned your lesson from your March 2019 call that the "bottom was in?"  Or more accurately your assertion that we might not see sub $3,900 BTC ever again.

Hey, you were almost correct about that one.. very close.. that's for sure.  



Call me a pussy.

I would be scared as fuck to fly in that thing.

Because you are a negative nancy... that's why.    


2017 was a good year.

Actually if you look from about October 2015 to December 2017... it was a good period of time in which BTC prices appreciated in the 28x to 78x arena.. depending upon how you count it.... NOT bad.. that's for sure.

Thanks for the well wishes, JSRAW... It's been a lovely day.. including in corn activities.

Did have to go back through my order books a bit today, a couple of times... so much UPpity action, and so many sales without buys.... My last buys were around September 3, when we dipped to the four digits.  Remember that?

It may start to be safe to proclaim that the bottom is in, right?  also we might even go so far as to proclaim that four digits are never to be experienced again... perhaps?  Perhaps?

In any event going up from $3,850 in mid-March has been a lot less stressful than going down... whichever DOWNity that we might have chosen to consider during the past nearly 3 years.  Was filled with opportunities to get more coins along the way... for sure..

We are not in 2017.. we are still in late 2016...   What would the numbers be for late 2016... not sure, which month, but let's say about December 2016...

We reach 2017 when we breach the old ATH. that is $19,666...

We have not even come close to that, yet... but we did breach the June 2019 high.. so there is something in that.

Regarding mining.. seems like a death spiral going on... we got a 16% reduction a few days ago, and mining hashrate is still dropping and targeting another 14% drop, or so?  Go figure.

Of course, I don't know your situation with any kind of precision, but you could still be quite well off without even selling close to 50 % of your BTC stash... Just cash out BTC from time to time whenever you might need it, and I suppose it is better if you do not have highfalutin tastes.    

I maintain a spreadsheet that I adjust from time to time based on price movements and changes to the actual quantities of my BTC stash.  Sure of course, I had to make some BIGGER adjustments to the projections based on some incidental and unintended losing of BTC along the way... but still, even my projection out to nearly 1.5 million still shows that under my current tentative plan, I would still retain nearly 82% of the quantity of BTC that I hold today... and that is kind of presuming that the BTC price shoots straight up.. which, it likely will not.  

Sure, it also presumes that I won't lose anymore which is not exactly a sure thing or that I won't shave some extra BTC off the top along the way - but even from the numbers that I am showing, I don't really see any need to be shaving extra off the top... but maybe I just have to learn to live richer and blow some BTC on higher level luxury goods.  

I think that the point that I am making is that there does not seem to be needs to sell high quantity of BTC in order to live quite well and that should be especially true with BTC HODLers that have been in the game longer and especially true if BTC does anything close to its earlier escape velocity performances.. ONLY needs to be a fraction and still cause a lot of longer term HODLers to become quite richie without any major needs to cash out large portions of their BTC stashes... my thinkening..


Of course, if you have not been into BTC for very long, then it takes longer to build the stash... So you have to keep building your stash, and then at some point you will likely realize that your stash has been built enough.

I speculate that she was looking at your eye colors (maybe getting tinglies too.. if she could see that you had a lil fiend secret contained therein), and then looking at your ID... and since your eye color had not changed, therefore, probably your blood type had not changed, either... Go figure.


Missing 2016 - which is the four-year fractal comparison year...

Go figure?

You better get ur lil selfie MOAR active!!!!!!!