Jebus IE, you appear to be both a blessing and curse on Blackcoin. You're extremely pro-active and have some great ideas, but your aggressive posts since the really great initiative by the BlackCoin foundation are really painting yourself in a highly hypocritical light. They're trying to do something great for the community, try to embrace that without any backhanded compliments or snide posts. Like your own projects, this will only do good for the coin and your really undermining yourself by reacting the way you do. Let's keep it positive people!
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Stop arguing about which projects are more awesome!Man, BC is silly sometimes, but in a good way?  This is not the point....all project are welcome and useful... the question is is it wise to use funds that way..? mostly amount wise.. for example why there's no more effort put in development of Android Wallet... This will join many ideas already posted here; - like the one; you want to pay for half of the pizza, etc - might completely skip usage of cards, terminals, etc.....Android mobile platform is capable of handling all of that... I just feel that few persons want to get hold of the control of the coin.....and what scares me is their agenda... if they truly pro BC it will be good..but so far they didn't proved anything.... but what if their agenda is destructive ? simple answer is if you don't believe in it don't donate to it. you have no obligation to support the campaign by donating. The issue is the priority of the core group and their ability to run a multi-million dollar project. I haven't seen them do one thing that didn't involve the community. Like some have pointed out we do not have an Android wallet and the site isn't localized, but we have thousands of international users. To add injury to insult they posted a plan and refused to give the name of the PR firm. I will repeat...they are asking for $15,000 but are withholding the name of the PR firm...and that doesn't require concern?...What if the PR firm isn't a good one? Why was this PR firm selected? So basically they are asking people to donate $15,000 and be quiet... How is this any different from all the times you've posted for donations (most recently asking for ~$10,000) expecting people to believe you will come through with your projects? Don't get me wrong you have gone through with all your projects so far, but there was no way people knew that beforehand they just had to trust you and they did. So now you are throwing the same distrust at the devs that you got rather upset at other people for throwing at you in the past? There is a huge difference. I have always provided detailed information on where the funds are going and how they are being spent. I never tried: "Hey I have this project and it will be awesome! I cannot tell you exactly what the project is but I promise it will be awesome! I am sorry but I really can't tell you anything else because I do not want the awesomeness to leak out! However, please trust me and donate $15,000 towards my idea"... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxRStrx8xtc#t=30 |
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My concerns have nothing to do with my event or my "ego", people will donate to whatever they like. However, there are people who are concerned with this idea of you asking for a significant amount of BTC with very little transparency. Never have I witnessed a dev team and/or foundation ask a community for donations and not provide detailed information about where the funds are going. There is literally no accountability at all. Why would the firm not want to disclose their name until the funds are paid and the contract is signed? This sounds familiar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTHlXb0PXh4#t=78It as at your discretion if you would like to donate prior to us revealing the name of the firm. Again, we are withholding their name at their request. I am sorry I cannot be of any more assistance here...
Remember, the ideas are not mutually exclusive and in fact work really well together. A Wall Street event makes for a perfect PR article that our firm can help distribute. Please, give as much as you can to both funds.
Goodnight all.
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Stop arguing about which projects are more awesome!Man, BC is silly sometimes, but in a good way? This is not the point....all project are welcome and useful... the question is is it wise to use funds that way..? mostly amount wise.. for example why there's no more effort put in development of Android Wallet... This will join many ideas already posted here; - like the one; you want to pay for half of the pizza, etc - might completely skip usage of cards, terminals, etc.....Android mobile platform is capable of handling all of that... I just feel that few persons want to get hold of the control of the coin.....and what scares me is their agenda... if they truly pro BC it will be good..but so far they didn't proved anything.... but what if their agenda is destructive ? simple answer is if you don't believe in it don't donate to it. you have no obligation to support the campaign by donating. The issue is the priority of the core group and their ability to run a multi-million dollar project. I haven't seen them do one thing that didn't involve the community. Like some have pointed out we do not have an Android wallet and the site isn't localized, but we have thousands of international users. To add injury to insult they posted a plan and refused to give the name of the PR firm. I will repeat...they are asking for $15,000 but are withholding the name of the PR firm...and that doesn't require concern?...What if the PR firm isn't a good one? Why was this PR firm selected? So basically they are asking people to donate $15,000 and be quiet... |
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IE, we were waiting to post this after a conference call we had this morning. We then realized we wanted to add the .pdf but didn't have permission. I emailed them and they said they would look at altering it so we could put it in the public domain. They said they would have it by COB today. At 6PM EST I emailed our rep asking where it was and she emailed me back at 7:30PM with the .pdf we posted. After I sent it to soepkip he posted it. This is the culmination of weeks of work. And there is so much yet to come! I can't wait.  Fantastic job guys, keep up the good work. Don't worry too much about IE, you can easily see by his posts since the announcement he's a little butthurt the attention has been taken away from his project for the time being. I personally think everyones projects has their place, the more, the better! Love your professionalism morituri, keep up the good work buddy. I am for anything that will make my portfolio value increase. If spending $30,000 would send BlackCoin to $1.00 per coin I would be all over it. But all it is going to do is become an expensive lesson in why you should never let people who have never run a business be in control of a multi-million dollar project. PS: I do not need attention from people online, I get enough attention from my wife and kids. |
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Hello BlackCoin Community As the BlackCoin Foundation we have worked hard in the past weeks and I am proud to present to the community at large one of our most ambitious fundraising ventures to date. As most of you know, BlackCoin is a phenomenal alternative cryptocurrency with substantial REAL advantages over its competitors. We are a greener, faster, coin that is ready for retail adoption and worldwide use… Only the world doesn't know this... That is hopefully about to change…
BlackCoin will be the first CryptoCurrency to hire a legitimate, brick and mortar, Public Relations Firm!
For several weeks the BlackCoin Foundation has been engaging PR firms in order to find one with the right technical expertise to help promote BlackCoin through various target media (think wired.com, theverge, wsj, financial times, and social media as well). After much deliberation we have decided on a company and are in the process of finalizing things contractually speaking. We are not going to release the PR firm's name until things are finalized, but they have a great deal of experience and are truly excited to be working with us. You will not be disappointed.
BlackCoin is Bitcoin 2.0. But spreading this message comes at significant cost. In order to secure a 90 day PR campaign (with options to retain services month to month after the initial 90 day period) the foundation has already raised over $15,000 USD! This has got the ball rolling, but we need help from the community! To finish paying for this venture we need the community to help raise an additional $15,000 USD.
The funds raised by the Foundation have allowed us to get things started, and over the next few days and weeks we will providing more and more information about the strategy, including key messages and timelines. Our strategy meetings will be 100% transparent and we will be updating the community about our every move. In the meantime, we need two things:
1.) Come up with suggestions! We have a powerful PR firm to bounce ideas off of and now is the time to brainstorm. What do you think is an important message? What is an important venue? Give us anything and everything you got, but please do your best to list your ideas in a concise and coherent manner.
2.) Please donate to the addresses below! This is a monumental and revolutionary undertaking that could very well shape the cryptocurrency landscape for years to come. Every little bit helps!
Linked below is a very high-level and preliminary overview that the PR firm provided to us in our most recent conference call. Some information has been redacted and the formatting has been altered (worsened) due to proprietary images (e.g. anything that could identify the PR Firm).
The Plan
The cryptocurrency world is having trouble competing with BlackCoin as is… With a capable and professional PR firm on our side, the sky is the limit.
Thanks and please donate today!
BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3Q
BTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQV
LTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvR
Doge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1
Make sure to check the addresses in the original post!
Be the change you want to see in the world.WE NOW HAVE: 1082$ Donated! This is really great guys and brings even more genuine confidence in the long term success of BlackCoin. Great to see the foundation stepping up and putting their money where their mouth is, will be great to see even more future projects from you guys. Keep up the good work! you ain't seen nothing yet Yup you are 100% correct...we haven't seen anything yet. All of the press and attention we have been getting over the past 4 weeks have been because of the community efforts. What exactly has the foundation done noteworthy? I read an article from Asia that generated no buzz. Why should the community donate $15,000 and we have yet to see the foundation do anything noteworthy? I have seen this so many times before and I sincerely hoped BlackCoin was going to be different.... |
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Let me paint this picture for you...My move put them in a very bad predicament...if the community funds the event and it goes off as planned, the community would realize they no longer need the core team or the multi-pool. So they they got Gritt to comment on the CoinTelegraph article: " I want to point out that the march on Wallstreet is not officially sponsored or endorsed by Blackcoin Foundation" to delegitimize the event and slow down funding. http://cointelegraph.com/post/blackcoin_s_smooth_and_sexy_nyc_charm_offensive who this Gritt guy is anw ? any credentials ? I'm in Blackcoin since the beginning...never heard of him before the comment he made I think he has to much influence and probably his own agenda.... people like that usually bring destruction and nothing else.. and Gritt a mess for you.... Think ahead and don't bite the hand that feeds you......if you want to become important and make history with BC, maybe become rich in the same time be very careful what are you doing.....all this is very fragile and might collapse any time..... Unfortunately it is not just Gritt. That is why I proposed earlier that the dev team work on the tech side, and the community handles the business end. |
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I have personally been working on solidifying terms with a PR firm since 4/13. This was not done hastily or in response to anything happening over the last 2 weeks.
Timing is everything...people behind the scenes are not stupid. They noticed the post came hours after my plan and the CoinDesk announcement. They also noticed all the "new" people posting here. This is not how you run a multi-million dollar project. But like I said...good luck with the PR firm.  |
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WE DON'T NEED AN GOSH DARN FOUNDATION, IS THIS WORLDCOIN 2.0? SERIOUSLY PISSES ME OFF CENTRALIZATION, AND ALSO PUTS OFF PEOPLE TO NOT DO ANYTHING TO HELP.
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, RETHINK THIS FOUNDATION. GO SEE HOW WORLDCOIN PANNED OUT WITH THERE FOUNDATION IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME.
+1  Our friends from IRC got the great idea to start the almighty multi-pool. They realized if they can convince the community the multi-pool would be able to sustain the BlackCoin price, everyone would mine there. The plan actually worked and now the multi-pool is earning a lot of BTC, but mostly for the people running it. So to keep that BTC flowing in they keep offering prizes and all kinds of wonderful stuff. I came along and started shifting focus from the multi-pool/dev team to community initiatives. I started getting way too much attention and that made a few people very nervous. I was asked to "stop posting as much". When people from this community realized the core group were not focusing on what they should be focusing on, the core group viewed me as a "threat". I originally went to the dev team and the "foundation" to fund Wall Street event and they were all for it until I wouldn't back their "Meet Black" campaign. They felt the only way this community would go along with the Meet Black campaign if I presented it. When I decided to decline, they snubbed the Wall Street event. So obviously I came to the community to fund the event. My move put them in a very bad predicament...if the community funds the event and it goes off as planned, the community would realize they no longer need the core team or the multi-pool. So they they got Gritt to comment on the CoinTelegraph article: " I want to point out that the march on Wallstreet is not officially sponsored or endorsed by Blackcoin Foundation" to delegitimize the event and slow down funding. http://cointelegraph.com/post/blackcoin_s_smooth_and_sexy_nyc_charm_offensive When I realized what was going on and I proposed we make BlackCoin less centralized that made quite a few people nervous and upset. When the CoinDesk article went live today http://www.coindesk.com/things-alt-ponzi-schemes-blackcoin-usbs-time-warp-attack and had no mention of the BlackCoin foundation or the BlackCoin dev team, they realized they had to do something fast. So someone came up with the " brilliant" idea to post the PR firm announcement and got everyone from IRC to come here and post to pump up the community. Half the people posting now I never seen post here before... They figured if they can generate enough buzz maybe they can stop the plans to make BlackCoin decentralized.... It reads like something out of a novel and sadly it is true...So while I am here genuinely trying to get this community together and accomplish big things, this small group of people are trying to keep control purely for greed.... "Hey we have a PR firm and we want you to donate $15,000 so we can secure their services. We can't tell you the name of the firm but trust us it will be awesome"! |
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IE this has nothing to do with control. The BlackCoin Foundation is a group of investors. None of the coin devs are in our group. We have no control. Think of the BlackCoin Foundation like you and your wife. We are a family that just wants the best for BlackCoin...
Your concerns are noted and we discussed them at great length, truthfully. It was not an easy decision. We were concerned about timing, how far along the coin was currently, are we ready in terms of coin features and coding...
At the end of the day we decided to at least get the ball rolling. We are going to try this for 90 days, and if it doesn't work the BlackCoin Foundation will be the hardest hit. But if it does work, the COMMUNITY has the most to gain.
I look forward to it. I think its exciting and I consider it a once in a lifetime opportunity to be here with this community right now.
I vowed I would conduct myself with decorum and civility, and I will stick to that vow. I raised valid points and the response was cheap shots and juvenile responses. I asked legitimate questions, but instead some resorted to personal attacks. But hey...I wasn't expecting you and the boys from IRC to sit back and watch it slip away....so no need to explain. I suggest you and the boys from IRC think realistically for a moment. March 23 is when I first started posting here after watching this thread for a few weeks. April was when I started taking the initiative to help the community. At that time I wasn't focusing solely on BlackCoin. In less than 2 months I issued two successful press releases, got us 2 major articles, and launched the BlackCoin card all while handling my other projects. Do you really think it is wise to take a shot across my bow? Anytime half of your IRC channel comes out to the forum shows me how bad things really are. As they say...desperate times calls for desperate measures... But once again good luck with the PR firm... |
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Sorry, but me too I have to admit that maybe it's too expensive for now, it's a great idea but each has to go with it's own capacities/capabilities.....and what is going to be worth if we don't have money to execute the plan.. and I'm pretty sure we can find ideas or find someone skilled to do so.... its pretty much the same price as that wall street promotion but instead of 2 hours of talking to random people in the street, this promotion will last 90 days and target the people that will actually be interested in this. they have already raised $15000..seems like a much better deal Finally someone making sense.. Who ever goes against this Idea clearly has no idea what they are talking about. This plan targets specifically the media outlets that we need. Mark Cuban the Multi Billionaire doesn't know what he is talking about? http://www.businessinsider.com/why-startups-shouldnt-hire-pr-firms-2012-1#!Htx93Can't say I would ever quote Mark Cuban in anything related to business. Mark Cuban is an incredibly lucky guy who sold his .com to one of the stupidest, biggest .com's at the peak of the .com bubble. As much as he thinks he is, he's no Warren Buffett and given the choice of having PR advice from the Ogilvy's of the world or Cuban, I suspect most wise and experienced business-folk would go the way of an Ogilvy. With that said, I'm absolutely amazed and astounded that you can't step back and see how BlackCoin hiring a PR firm is NOT a good idea. Look at the facts: -Will all due respect after watching yesterday's BlackCoinCast the BlackCoin team, for all intents and purposes, is made up of ultra-nerds to the power of 10. Their forte is coding and crypto's. -BlackCoin does not have the capital to hire and pay the ongoing salaries of a Marketing/PR Director and team. Yes, taking BlackCoin to where it should be requires a team with years of social media experience to wrangle the message of why the ordinary man/woman/child needs BlackCoin. -There are many marketing plans going every which way here on BitCoinTalk, creating a massive amount of noise which is becoming indecipherable, chaotic and overall causing massive disorganization. Over a month ago when the forum was pushing the one message that BlackCoin would be the first, and only (at that time), crypto with a self-made BC-buying multipool the result was a ridiculous panicky buying spree which luckily resulted in a much higher price plateau than from where it had been before that message spread. We need that organized one-mindedness again. -No crypto has ever hired a PR firm before because no other crypto (maybe with the exception of Evan Duffeld with Dark Coin) has had developers who have taken their coin so seriously as these guys. These guys are willing to test the suppose 'crypto boundaries' that exist and they have been rewarded for it so far. Iconic, if you truly had an ounce of business experience you'd either donate your 'Wall Street meets BlackCoin' to this cause or sell all your holdings out and move on because pretty soon you will be coming off like a troll. JL With all do respect but I doubt you have real world business experience. If you did you would know what I posted is correct. I shared 4 or 5 links to reputable sources all stating hiring a PR firm is a bad move. Anyone with Google and 5 minutes could find that out for themselves. I am not going to back something I think is fundamentally flawed because a few people from IRC is trying to ram it down the throats of this community to "keep control". This reminds me of the "Meet Black" campaign that I advised not to do. An idea that was also fundamentally flawed, and how did that turn out? If not agreeing with a bad idea makes me a troll then I am a troll. |
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Hello BlackCoin Community As the BlackCoin Foundation we have worked hard in the past weeks and I am proud to present to the community at large one of our most ambitious fundraising ventures to date. As most of you know, BlackCoin is a phenomenal alternative cryptocurrency with substantial REAL advantages over its competitors. We are a greener, faster, coin that is ready for retail adoption and worldwide use… Only the world doesn't know this... That is hopefully about to change…
BlackCoin will be the first CryptoCurrency to hire a legitimate, brick and mortar, Public Relations Firm!
For several weeks the BlackCoin Foundation has been engaging PR firms in order to find one with the right technical expertise to help promote BlackCoin through various target media (think wired.com, theverge, wsj, financial times, and social media as well). After much deliberation we have decided on a company and are in the process of finalizing things contractually speaking. We are not going to release the PR firm's name until things are finalized, but they have a great deal of experience and are truly excited to be working with us. You will not be disappointed.
BlackCoin is Bitcoin 2.0. But spreading this message comes at significant cost. In order to secure a 90 day PR campaign (with options to retain services month to month after the initial 90 day period) the foundation has already raised over $15,000 USD! This has got the ball rolling, but we need help from the community! To finish paying for this venture we need the community to help raise an additional $15,000 USD.
The funds raised by the Foundation have allowed us to get things started, and over the next few days and weeks we will providing more and more information about the strategy, including key messages and timelines. Our strategy meetings will be 100% transparent and we will be updating the community about our every move. In the meantime, we need two things:
1.) Come up with suggestions! We have a powerful PR firm to bounce ideas off of and now is the time to brainstorm. What do you think is an important message? What is an important venue? Give us anything and everything you got, but please do your best to list your ideas in a concise and coherent manner.
2.) Please donate to the addresses below! This is a monumental and revolutionary undertaking that could very well shape the cryptocurrency landscape for years to come. Every little bit helps!
Linked below is a very high-level and preliminary overview that the PR firm provided to us in our most recent conference call. Some information has been redacted and the formatting has been altered (worsened) due to proprietary images (e.g. anything that could identify the PR Firm).
The Plan
The cryptocurrency world is having trouble competing with BlackCoin as is… With a capable and professional PR firm on our side, the sky is the limit.
Thanks and please donate today!
BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3Q
BTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQV
LTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvR
Doge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1
Make sure to check the addresses in the original post!
Be the change you want to see in the world. A few questions. 1. $15,000 is not small change, why not release the name of the firm so members can do their due diligence? Why not be more transparent now? 2. What does the $30,000 cover? Most well known PR firms charge a minimum of $40,000 - $100,000 just to retain their services. It does not cover the expense of ads, commercials, events...etc..etc. That is extra. +1 I just read the plan and as I pointed out for $30,000 you basically get a custom tailored marketing plan and a few press releases. $30,000 does not cover ads, radio, TV, or events. The firm will advise you on what you need to be doing. The reason why I asked my previous questions because PR firms are the worst ROI, especially for a start-up. Any experienced entrepreneur knows never hire a PR firm unless you have millions of dollars to waste, in this case millions of BlackCoins. This is is commonly known fact, but you do not have to take my word for it. Here are links from some of the top business websites confirming what I just wrote:http://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/8-reasons-you-should-not-hire-a-pr-firm.htmlhttp://www.businessinsider.com/why-startups-shouldnt-hire-pr-firms-2012-1http://venturebeat.com/2013/05/03/how-to-hire-a-pr-firm-dont-do-ithttp://www.fastcompany.com/3028922/why-startups-shouldnt-use-pr-firms-to-pitch-their-businessI just hope that "Blackcoin foundation" is not as "Wolrdcoin foundation" a tragedy, I think centralize a lot is a serious error in crypto because this is a market designed to be decentralized, some leadership is always welcome. I think we should focus on finalizing the donations to the project of "Wall Street of ICONIC", because if not we will be left with a lot of projects only on paper, and it will be very frustrating, BELIVE ME .... For to spend 30K I would like to see Blackcoin in news programs, radio and newspapers. I particularly already donated over 18K BC for all kinds of projects here, so before someone criticize me please know that I love this coin, but if and to make a marketing, it must be agrecivo, viral! In the last two weeks the only time BlackCoin has been seriously written about was: 1. The Wall Street Event: http://cointelegraph.com/post/blackcoin_s_smooth_and_sexy_nyc_charm_offensive 2. The BlackCoin Card: http://www.coindesk.com/things-alt-ponzi-schemes-blackcoin-usbs-time-warp-attackAnd all that attention cost me $0 You would think that CoinDesk would write about the multi-pool, or all of the cool stuff the dev team is doing. However, they wrote about the BlackCoin card. Interesting indeed.... |
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Not at all... I like challenges and you are making just a little too easy for me. Let me walk you through what will happen. For the next day or so you and your friends from IRC will continue to post about the PR firm here on the forum. Half the community will be very excited, they other half will see it as a desperate ploy. With luck you will raise all of the funds to hire the firm and you will get a lot of pretty charts, stats, and a few press releases. The community will then realize how little business experience the core group has and then....well...you know the rest. In your haste to come up with a "solution" you didn't quite think it all through. A Hail mary is not a business plan, and a $30,000 hail mary just speeds up the inevitable. But good luck with the PR firm, I sincerely hope it works out. |
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Sorry, but me too I have to admit that maybe it's too expensive for now, it's a great idea but each has to go with it's own capacities/capabilities.....and what is going to be worth if we don't have money to execute the plan.. and I'm pretty sure we can find ideas or find someone skilled to do so.... its pretty much the same price as that wall street promotion but instead of 2 hours of talking to random people in the street, this promotion will last 90 days and target the people that will actually be interested in this. they have already raised $15000..seems like a much better deal Finally someone making sense.. Who ever goes against this Idea clearly has no idea what they are talking about. This plan targets specifically the media outlets that we need. Mark Cuban the Multi Billionaire doesn't know what he is talking about? http://www.businessinsider.com/why-startups-shouldnt-hire-pr-firms-2012-1#!Htx93 |
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Sorry, but me too I have to admit that maybe it's too expensive for now, it's a great idea but each has to go with it's own capacities/capabilities.....and what is going to be worth if we don't have money to execute the plan.. and I'm pretty sure we can find ideas or find someone skilled to do so.... You pay PR firms to tell you what you need to do, and then you have to pay them again to actually do it. There is never a ROI, that is why startups should never hire a PR firm. But when you have never run a business before unfortunately mistakes like these happen. |
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Hello BlackCoin Community As the BlackCoin Foundation we have worked hard in the past weeks and I am proud to present to the community at large one of our most ambitious fundraising ventures to date. As most of you know, BlackCoin is a phenomenal alternative cryptocurrency with substantial REAL advantages over its competitors. We are a greener, faster, coin that is ready for retail adoption and worldwide use… Only the world doesn't know this... That is hopefully about to change…
BlackCoin will be the first CryptoCurrency to hire a legitimate, brick and mortar, Public Relations Firm!
For several weeks the BlackCoin Foundation has been engaging PR firms in order to find one with the right technical expertise to help promote BlackCoin through various target media (think wired.com, theverge, wsj, financial times, and social media as well). After much deliberation we have decided on a company and are in the process of finalizing things contractually speaking. We are not going to release the PR firm's name until things are finalized, but they have a great deal of experience and are truly excited to be working with us. You will not be disappointed.
BlackCoin is Bitcoin 2.0. But spreading this message comes at significant cost. In order to secure a 90 day PR campaign (with options to retain services month to month after the initial 90 day period) the foundation has already raised over $15,000 USD! This has got the ball rolling, but we need help from the community! To finish paying for this venture we need the community to help raise an additional $15,000 USD.
The funds raised by the Foundation have allowed us to get things started, and over the next few days and weeks we will providing more and more information about the strategy, including key messages and timelines. Our strategy meetings will be 100% transparent and we will be updating the community about our every move. In the meantime, we need two things:
1.) Come up with suggestions! We have a powerful PR firm to bounce ideas off of and now is the time to brainstorm. What do you think is an important message? What is an important venue? Give us anything and everything you got, but please do your best to list your ideas in a concise and coherent manner.
2.) Please donate to the addresses below! This is a monumental and revolutionary undertaking that could very well shape the cryptocurrency landscape for years to come. Every little bit helps!
Linked below is a very high-level and preliminary overview that the PR firm provided to us in our most recent conference call. Some information has been redacted and the formatting has been altered (worsened) due to proprietary images (e.g. anything that could identify the PR Firm).
The Plan
The cryptocurrency world is having trouble competing with BlackCoin as is… With a capable and professional PR firm on our side, the sky is the limit.
Thanks and please donate today!
BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3Q
BTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQV
LTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvR
Doge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1
Make sure to check the addresses in the original post!
Be the change you want to see in the world. A few questions. 1. $15,000 is not small change, why not release the name of the firm so members can do their due diligence? Why not be more transparent now? 2. What does the $30,000 cover? Most well known PR firms charge a minimum of $40,000 - $100,000 just to retain their services. It does not cover the expense of ads, commercials, events...etc..etc. That is extra. +1 I just read the plan and as I pointed out for $30,000 you basically get a custom tailored marketing plan and a few press releases. $30,000 does not cover ads, radio, TV, or events. The firm will advise you on what you need to be doing. The reason why I asked my previous questions because PR firms are the worst ROI, especially for a start-up. Any experienced entrepreneur knows never hire a PR firm unless you have millions of dollars to waste, in this case millions of BlackCoins. This is is commonly known fact, but you do not have to take my word for it. Here are links from some of the top business websites confirming what I just wrote:http://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/8-reasons-you-should-not-hire-a-pr-firm.htmlhttp://www.businessinsider.com/why-startups-shouldnt-hire-pr-firms-2012-1http://venturebeat.com/2013/05/03/how-to-hire-a-pr-firm-dont-do-ithttp://www.fastcompany.com/3028922/why-startups-shouldnt-use-pr-firms-to-pitch-their-business |
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Hello BlackCoin Community As the BlackCoin Foundation we have worked hard in the past weeks and I am proud to present to the community at large one of our most ambitious fundraising ventures to date. As most of you know, BlackCoin is a phenomenal alternative cryptocurrency with substantial REAL advantages over its competitors. We are a greener, faster, coin that is ready for retail adoption and worldwide use… Only the world doesn't know this... That is hopefully about to change…
BlackCoin will be the first CryptoCurrency to hire a legitimate, brick and mortar, Public Relations Firm!
For several weeks the BlackCoin Foundation has been engaging PR firms in order to find one with the right technical expertise to help promote BlackCoin through various target media (think wired.com, theverge, wsj, financial times, and social media as well). After much deliberation we have decided on a company and are in the process of finalizing things contractually speaking. We are not going to release the PR firm's name until things are finalized, but they have a great deal of experience and are truly excited to be working with us. You will not be disappointed.
BlackCoin is Bitcoin 2.0. But spreading this message comes at significant cost. In order to secure a 90 day PR campaign (with options to retain services month to month after the initial 90 day period) the foundation has already raised over $15,000 USD! This has got the ball rolling, but we need help from the community! To finish paying for this venture we need the community to help raise an additional $15,000 USD.
The funds raised by the Foundation have allowed us to get things started, and over the next few days and weeks we will providing more and more information about the strategy, including key messages and timelines. Our strategy meetings will be 100% transparent and we will be updating the community about our every move. In the meantime, we need two things:
1.) Come up with suggestions! We have a powerful PR firm to bounce ideas off of and now is the time to brainstorm. What do you think is an important message? What is an important venue? Give us anything and everything you got, but please do your best to list your ideas in a concise and coherent manner.
2.) Please donate to the addresses below! This is a monumental and revolutionary undertaking that could very well shape the cryptocurrency landscape for years to come. Every little bit helps!
Linked below is a very high-level and preliminary overview that the PR firm provided to us in our most recent conference call. Some information has been redacted and the formatting has been altered (worsened) due to proprietary images (e.g. anything that could identify the PR Firm).
The Plan
The cryptocurrency world is having trouble competing with BlackCoin as is… With a capable and professional PR firm on our side, the sky is the limit.
Thanks and please donate today!
BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3Q
BTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQV
LTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvR
Doge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1
Make sure to check the addresses in the original post!
Be the change you want to see in the world. A few questions. 1. $15,000 is not small change, why not release the name of the firm so members can do their due diligence? Why not be more transparent now? 2. What does the $30,000 cover? Most well known PR firms charge a minimum of $40,000 - $100,000 just to retain their services. It does not cover the expense of ads, commercials, events...etc..etc. That is extra. |
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well coin has been out for a little over 60 days. they are going to start seeing the name blackcoin more and more. Last time we hit critcal mass we almost topped dogecoins market cap. next time we double or triple that and could bounce of 100 million marketcap. Nobody ever did a card for cryptos, this should be an headline by its own, just about the card and BlackCoin. The next time they will talk about BlackCoin now is only if the price eventually soars to a level that they cannot avoid or we have to wait for the Wall Street event... So it was kind of boring for me, but better than nothing... It is better than nothing. One step at a time.... |
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BlackCoin Community Plan
As promised I came up with a basic plan that we all can build upon over time. I think as a community need to be on the same page to achieve our common goal to make BlackCoin #1.
Before starting I was going to put this into a PDF and I decided to post it here so everyone can add whatever suggestions and comments to the plan. This is very long so please take a few minutes to read it.
Introduction:
Over the past few weeks this community has accomplished some amazing things in the name of BlackCoin, but lately we have lost focus on our main goal of making BlackCoin #1. Some of us have been conducting ourselves like juveniles on this forum, including myself. The first thing that needs to change around here is our decorum. We cannot continue to act the way we have been acting. There are some very talented and intelligent individuals here , and we do not have to attack each other to get our point across. We can have intense debates and still be respectful of each other. If and when trolls do enter our thread, we have to adopt a no tolerance policy. Do not quote them and kindly ask them to refrain from posting FUD. Do not aggressively engage or argue with them. This thread is key to attracting new talent and investors, and it needs to remain open but it also needs to remain fairly professional.
Mission:
Everyone keeps making the mistake of suggesting we can be the next Bitcoin. I do not want to be the next Bitcoin. In the eyes of the world Bitcoin doesn't exist. Yes we know about Bitcoin, and maybe 1 or 2 million people know about Bitcoin. However, if you ask 20 random people on the street if they know what Bitcoin is, I am willing to bet at least 19 of them would not have a clue what Bitcoin is. So although Bitcoin was the first, there is a very good opportunity to become the standard crypto-currency everyone knows and uses. There have been many examples in recent history when the first product to market is overshadowed by the newcomer because the newcomer had better marketing and branding.
Our mission is to strive to be the most recognized and used crypto-currency in the world.
Structure:
This is a hard one. BlackCoin is not a corporation and it will never be a corporation. It is a community funded project with many moving parts. However, it seems to have turned into a central organization with a community that has limited say. There are major issues with this approach but I will not address that now. Moving forward I propose we decentralize BlackCoin and turn it back into a community controlled project.
1. The development team focuses on development and the technical aspect of BlackCoin
2. The BlackCoin foundation focuses on supporting projects and whatever else they feel passionate about.
3. The community focuses on building the brand and handling the business side of BlackCoin. No one person or small group should decide the fate of BlackCoin.
I own the domain GoBlackCoin.com and we can turn that into a community hub for discussions, new ideas, projects, events, and everything else related to BlackCoin. We can have tutorials, market info,...etc..etc. Senior members of the BlackCoin community can be admins and mods. it will be a complete social network for the BlackCoin community. I can have that up and running by mid June.
Technology:
The current BlackCoin client is based off the original Bitcoin client. We should begin to move forward with a more unique design that is tailored more for BlackCoin. Every wallet client is pretty much a carbon copy of the previous client with little differences here and there. It is hard to portray unique and innovative when the software for the wallet is similar in design to every other wallet.
Using BlackCoin at retail locations will be made easier using CoinKite, but I must admit I think cypto is going backwards with this approach. Using cards and terminals to make purchases is 20th century technology, and I have no idea why the currency of the future needs to use redesigned 20th century technology. Google has it right with their technology using an ordinary smart phone to make purchases.
We need to make it easier and cost effective for any merchant to accept BlackCoins without the hassle of extra terminals and cards. There are tons of locations that already support Google's technology, and maybe we need to tie into that network somehow.
Marketing & Brand Awareness:
We have already proven that press releases have a positive effect on getting investors excited and garnering the attention of the crypto-community. But there is so much more we can be doing
a) Social media should be a top priority. We have members who have graciously offered to Tweet regularly and upload photos to Instagram. We must utilize every aspect of social media.
b) Events will be crucial to building brand awareness. The Wall Street event is just one example of how we need to be creative and think out the box. We need to sponsor small concerts, raise money for charities, and sponsor high profile non-crypto related events
c) Traditional print ads in magazines is an option we will need to explore. Bitcoin placed an ad in Wired Magazine. That was a good idea but I would have opted for one of the financial magazines first. We need to go where the money is, and financial magazines is where we need to be.
d) Times Square billboard! Yes we need to go big! At this time it is not feasible to buy a billboard in Times Square, but as the marketcap of BlackCoin increases we can have a BlackCoin billboard in the middle of Times Square.
e) Radio is also an option we need to pursue. Radio is not expensive at all and can be effective with the right ad and audience.
f) Celebrity endorsements. A-list celebrities are expensive, but there are very popular celebrities that are not exactly A-list but have a huge following. Their fees are significantly less than an A-list celebrity but can be just as effective at making BlackCoin popular.
g) Sponsor poker tournaments and have the players paid in BlackCoin.
Infrastructure & Partnerships:
We have been very lucky to have been added to some of the top exchanges and services in such a short span of time. I think as a community we have been very effective in this area and we just need to keep contacting services and keep requesting they add us.
Coinbase is a Bitcoin only service but I think they are rethinking their position on that. If we can show how powerful and innovate BlackCoin is, maybe in the future we can convince them to add us.
Every time I send BTC to an exchange it takes a lifetime to confirm. However, when you compare that to BlackCoin it seems almost instant. This is a major advantage and we need Bitcoin only services to understand Bitcoin is yesterdays technology.
Recruitment:
We need the most talented people onboard to help with this project. Talented and knowledgeable people are priceless, and we need to establish an environment that welcomes and nurtures talented people.
BlackCoin will succeed or fail based on the efforts of the community. Without a passionate and active community BlackCoin will slowly die like many coins before it.
"If you do what you have always done you will get what you have always gotten".....
In my haste to post I forgot to mention two other initiatives. 1. BlackCoin is a global currency and it needs to cater to our Non-English friends abroad. 2. One of the best ways to promote products is by word of mouth. Most people will use a product if someone close suggested it. I propose a day when we buy a small amount of BC each (This is not a pump) and give the BC away to friends and family. I was thinking mothers day, but it could be any day. |
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