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9401  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 24, 2014, 06:37:59 PM
Is this normal???



same on both S3. Both with default frequency: 218.75

why so many discarded??

strangely enough, yes, but SOMETIMES rebooting from the webgui (not by power cycle) helps somewhat. Also it seems that discarded shares ## are higher on ghash and btcguild than on eligius (personal observation on the same miner by rotating pools).
9402  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 24, 2014, 06:04:32 PM
I have four 0.075BTC coupons and two 0.074 coupons.
Anybody wants all four (I think that I can only donate all at once)?
minimal fair price is 0.23 for all four (your savings would be 0.3-0.23=0.07 BTC)
If you want two (apparently, it is possible), then the cost is 0.1155 BTC
pm me, but i won't accept anything less than 0.23 for all four or 0.1155BTC for two
two 0.074 I will get rid of ONLY if price is even higher
9403  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 24, 2014, 03:22:27 AM
Re firmware flashing: it gives the checksum before flashing, but what I supposed to compare it to?
also, "image size 7.5mb (8.1 mb available)"-what is this supposed to mean?
The firmware hash should have a corresponding hash on their site. The two should match ensuring integrity. The 8.1mb available is the space available on the system disk. I ran a 'df -h' on the files system and this is what it showed 29M available in /tmp.

I've also been trying to track down how to turn off the system bell (beep) and haven't found anything. It's loud and annoying. I'll let you know when I find out how to disable it completely through software.



thanks, but why size discrepancy-when I download, it shows as a 8.1 mb file, but once I upload to s3 , then it says that it is 7.5mb.
besides, i don't see the checksum posted anywhere on their site.
9404  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 24, 2014, 03:01:48 AM
Re firmware flashing: it gives the checksum before flashing, but what I supposed to compare it to?
also, "image size 7.5mb (8.1 mb available)"-what is this supposed to mean?
9405  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 23, 2014, 10:45:26 PM
bitmain has gained greatly in value from yesterday up to today.  the sp30 is a bust.  no one knows had big of a bust yet but it is a bust.  the ceo the the company admitted so on the sp30 thread.

 so will it hash at 4th and pull 2400 watts.

 it is not going to do the promised 6th.

we also do not know what the efficiency will drop to.  .6 watts  .7 watts?

 this means the s-3 has jumped up in value.  How big a jump depends on how bad the sp30 turns out to be.

As a s-3 owner this will also help with the diff.



This is a very big deal and has serious consequences for the home miner.



unless knc will get off their buttocks and make something competitive price-wise.
But, I agree, suddenly Bitmain has the best product (when up to specs) for a reasonable price.
I am enjoying lower jumps and feeling great about not selling the S2.
9406  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 23, 2014, 10:32:03 PM
1. why is your pool info repeated twice?
2. remove stratum+tcp://, just keep stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334
3. maybe add a second pool

save and apply

wait until it beeps, then check

Sorry, pasted twice by accident...

I tried removing the stratum+tcp://, no change... no beeps either...

Also, when I try diagnostics, tracert and ping both fail.  reports Network unreachable...


My WAN shows activity, my LAN shows no activity and is set to DHCP...  Should I be changing this to a static IP address as well as the WAN address?  (two different IP's???)

is your router on 192.168.1.1?
do you have other miner that might be on 192.168.1.99?
bold numbers should be the same for router and miner, but could be different from standard
9407  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 23, 2014, 10:15:07 PM
I just received my miners and am very excited.

I was able to connect them to my network and I am able to access the web interface.

I only changed the WAN settings to:

IP Address:  192.168.0.250
subnet:       255.255.255.0
gateway:    192.168.0.1
broadcast:  192.168.0.255

(I did not modify my LAN settings from DHCP)

I added eligius to my #1 pool and removed the others...

Pool 1:  stratum+tcp://stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334   stratum+tcp://stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334
Worker:  Wallet ID
Password: N/A


Click Apply & Save...

Now when I view the Miner Status, everything says "This section contains no values yet"... and is empty.

Any idea why my pool is not being displayed here?  Previously, it had Antminer's pool there and it looked fine...



1. why is your pool info repeated twice?
2. remove stratum+tcp://, just keep stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334
3. maybe add a second pool

save and apply

wait until it beeps, then check
9408  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: July 23, 2014, 07:53:27 PM
The problem I see is as follows:

Lower hashrate (!and power efficiency) entitles to compensation. This could come in the form of:

- additional delivered hashpower (complicated due to leadtime, fractual compensation ie 1/4 sp30 impractical)
- additional hosted hashpower (leadtime, but higher flexibility ie 1/4 sp30 equivalent can be awarded)
- refund of an appropriate amount, alternatively discounts for additional units (choice of the customer)

aswell as hybrid solutions:
- hosted units could be billed the same 310$/ 6TH hashrate regardless of efficiency, compensation only needed for possible lower hashrate but not efficiency



discounts for additional units is NOT a proper compensation, unless it is just one of multiple choices, but we should just wait-it is all guesswork for now..
9409  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 23, 2014, 07:35:49 PM
Huh Has anyone figured out how to fix the seemingly random beep  Huh Everything seems to be functioning properly on my set of S3's, except for the random beep. I've seen breadcrumbs of others experiencing this issue and some novel band-aid repairs, but no serious fix yet.

Symptom:
Unit randomly sounds a single notification beep; similar to p.o.s.t beep when booting a desktop PC with a missing keyboard.

Issue:
Unknown.

Troubleshooting:
Reviewed and verified settings on unit.
Reviewed network settings.
Reviewed unit and network logs.
Flashed firmware.
Used traffic monitor for disconnect notification.

Resolution:
Unknown. A few (novel) band-aids have been offered, but no serious fix to date.

re beeps:
1. did you try to switch it off in web gui?
2. In my case(s) there is a perfect correlation between pool switching difficulty setting and a single "beep"


Excellent! How did you verify the correlation between pool difficulty increase/decrease? I'd like to do the same. I didn't switch off the disco notification setting because I want to know when there is a legitimate connectivity issue.

I was looking at the web gui, saw the diff change and heard the beep a fraction of a second later- and it happened 3 times already.
9410  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 23, 2014, 07:10:07 PM
Got both units today and happily hashing on defaults at 450Gh/s for each unit. No issues at all.

Thank you, Bitmain. I am a very happy customer.

my ups is always coming after 6:30pm here. 2 more units expected today as well.
450 at the pool or in web gui?
9411  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 23, 2014, 06:57:30 PM
Huh Has anyone figured out how to fix the seemingly random beep  Huh Everything seems to be functioning properly on my set of S3's, except for the random beep. I've seen breadcrumbs of others experiencing this issue and some novel band-aid repairs, but no serious fix yet.

Symptom:
Unit randomly sounds a single notification beep; similar to p.o.s.t beep when booting a desktop PC with a missing keyboard.

Issue:
Unknown.

Troubleshooting:
Reviewed and verified settings on unit.
Reviewed network settings.
Reviewed unit and network logs.
Flashed firmware.
Used traffic monitor for disconnect notification.

Resolution:
Unknown. A few (novel) band-aids have been offered, but no serious fix to date.

re beeps:
1. did you try to switch it off in web gui?
2. In my case(s) there is a perfect correlation between pool switching difficulty setting and a single "beep"
9412  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: July 23, 2014, 06:22:02 PM
WoW>   I wonder how hard the fucking will be in this case.

I am hoping  that 5th  at .6 watts will be the end result.  

To all  that ordered I hope that you get your gear quickly.

 I also hope that   you get 5th and .6 watts.   good luck to all

Maybe 4TH at 1200W but we get two of them Smiley

he already said-no
9413  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: July 23, 2014, 06:15:51 PM
Notice the title of the thread change from the best W/GH, best price to
-carrier grade, data center ready
9414  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: July 23, 2014, 05:52:44 PM
We shall see what the final results will be.
I would withhold commenting before that.
9415  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 23, 2014, 04:03:00 PM
moderately beeping ants-found at least one cause: when pool switches difficulty setting-they beep.
100% correlation (>3 occasions). At least mine only beep for this and also when mining commences at reboot.
9416  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 23, 2014, 03:46:47 PM
Found out why one of my units was not hashing and having X's on the chips. Paste was everywhere on the inside. Even the screws holding the heat sink on had thermal paste on them.
images removed


Messy paste wont effect anything but poor cooling, unless your units are overheating, that's not the problem
His look far better than mine did... lol.  I had paste on the chips, on the pcb, on the connectors... everywhere.

correct me if i am wrong, but if others suggest that paste is there to provide a thermal connection between a chip and a heat sink, then with heat sink sitting on the top of the chips in s3, I don't see how it could be done by anything other than having paste on the top of the chips (but not necessarily on connectors, I get that).

not sure what you are asking there...

are there other ways to have a thermal connection between chip and heat sink? sure, you can buy thermal pads. search ebay. youll see in the specs that they are massively electrically resistant. need 1000's of volts to make them conduct. Same goes for thermal paste. Its very unlikely that swimming in thermal paste (even on connectors) would cause any problem at all...

yep, but the OP said that cleaning paste improved his machine. If what you are saying is 100% correct about swimming in thermal paste not causing any problems, then why his S3 was improved by removing excess and reapplying some? I just want to understand and from what I heard here, it seems that paste should be on the top of the chip in S3.

After cleaning all the paste off the chips and surrounding PCB, the unit is working at 440 GH/s after 6 hours. All that extra paste can mess with the voltages on a chip and cause hardware issues. Thermal paste should always be on top of the chip with none running over the sides. On a full sized CPU an amount the size of a pea should be applied. On a small ASIC chip the paste should be just a tiny amount and let the heat sink spread it out. If mine is not that bad, all I can think is some dude with a Taco Bell sour cream gun filled with thermal paste is shooting this stuff on.  

what ?? your saying taco bell uses thermal paste ?? you are right the thermal past should not be gooped on the chip covering the entire chip connectors and other nearby electronic components. i always replace stock thermal paste on pretty much everything anyways: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835426035

Best practice to ensure you don't get too much is to put a small amount on the chip then spread it evenly with a business card, drivers license or the like. The layer of paste in most cases only needs to be a couple mils thick. It's only intended to take up any air gaps between the chip and heatsink, nothing more. Additionally, thermal paste such as Arctic Silver have silver particles in it so yes it will conduct electricity.

what is the point of thermal paste to conduct electricity? I think that you are incorrect. silver is there to conduct heat better. Because silver particles are surrounded by non-conductive filler, electricity is NOT conducted.
see:
http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm
9417  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 23, 2014, 03:41:39 PM
I have a bit of a problem. Hoping someone can help, I'm fine with computers but have no clue when it comes to network addresses etc.

To start with, I couldn't change the routers subnet so I went through a direct PC connection. Logged into the Ant fine & changed to DCHP. The Ant still had 192.168.1.99/24 as the IPv4 address at that time.

Here's where I went wrong perhaps, I had to connect to the internet again to get details for my pool (having to disconnect from the Ants), and since then I haven't been able to re-login to the Antminers. I've tried resetting them and trying to find them via the router, but they are not there. Anyone have any idea what went wrong/how I can login to them again pls?

Download Advanced IP Scanner and run that. It should find your Ant.

thanks for your reply.  Funnily enough I had just run that software, but Ants are not found :/  Which is weird because the lights are happily flashing away & I'm sure they're mining to Bitmain's account no problem over my network somehow.

my ip scanner reports ants as Paragon technologies
9418  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 23, 2014, 12:29:51 AM
Time to do my happy dance!!

My S3's from Batch 1 just arrived....now to go to work and get them up and running

Congrats now you will make 8usd per s3,money well spent huh?

That's $7.83 btw - .50 for electric = $7.33/Day (for now). I spent $430.55 (0.69225BTC after 7.7% refund, not received yet) for 1 S3 miner. Raw math puts ROI @ < 60Days, BUT.. we all know difficulty will have an affect. Averaging difficulty increases @ 10% stretches ROI (including electricity) to 83-85 Days, with a NET profit of .10BTC within 100 Days. .1 / .69225 = 14% PROFIT in 100 Days, anything out there doing that legit? Outside of cash cropping in a few states I think NOT!!

wow, interesting, this is exactly what I hit in 100d on S1 (on average). they must have some formula to predict this.
14% in 100 days is 60% a year. Don't tell me you get this on the stock market or pretty much anything else.
9419  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 23, 2014, 12:14:24 AM
Looks like 1 of 3 is a winner:


Just play with each setting and leave it for a few hours these S3s take a while to even out.

you have 25 times more discarded shares than accepted. I am not sure that it means anything, though.
9420  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 22, 2014, 11:49:13 PM
Found out why one of my units was not hashing and having X's on the chips. Paste was everywhere on the inside. Even the screws holding the heat sink on had thermal paste on them.
images removed


Messy paste wont effect anything but poor cooling, unless your units are overheating, that's not the problem
His look far better than mine did... lol.  I had paste on the chips, on the pcb, on the connectors... everywhere.

correct me if i am wrong, but if others suggest that paste is there to provide a thermal connection between a chip and a heat sink, then with heat sink sitting on the top of the chips in s3, I don't see how it could be done by anything other than having paste on the top of the chips (but not necessarily on connectors, I get that).

not sure what you are asking there...

are there other ways to have a thermal connection between chip and heat sink? sure, you can buy thermal pads. search ebay. youll see in the specs that they are massively electrically resistant. need 1000's of volts to make them conduct. Same goes for thermal paste. Its very unlikely that swimming in thermal paste (even on connectors) would cause any problem at all...

yep, but the OP said that cleaning paste improved his machine. If what you are saying is 100% correct about swimming in thermal paste not causing any problems, then why his S3 was improved by removing excess and reapplying some? I just want to understand and from what I heard here, it seems that paste should be on the top of the chip in S3.
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