ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread

[Ilan1]

I have just received my 3 Antminers and plugged them in, they have all powered up OK but my SKY Router wont detect them as a device, its like something is blocking them from being detected, I tried 192.168.1.99 but nothing happens and when I try 192.168.0.1 and ask my router to find the attached device it will not detect the Antminer  can anyone help? is it my router that's the problem?

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[CryptoGuy]

For those of you in B3, I ordered 7/6 and received my tracking info late last night. Hopefully they'll make it by the end of the week but I think that might be wishful thinking.

[wpgdeez]

I have just received my 3 Antminers and plugged them in, they have all powered up OK but my SKY Router wont detect them as a device, its like something is blocking them from being detected, I tried 192.168.1.99 but nothing happens and when I try 192.168.0.1 and ask my router to find the attached device it will not detect the Antminer  can anyone help? is it my router that's the problem?

Your router is on a different network. 192.168.0.x is different then 192.168.1.x
If you have a ehternet cable and a spare PC set the PC to a static IP in the 192.168.1.x range, connect to the antminer and change the IP info so it is on the 192.168.0.x network.

[Duce]

What are everyones discarded shares figures like? Mine seem very high at least double the accepted shares.  This is the same on 212.5 and 218.75.

Does not seem higher than S1 units. I kept some screen shots for comparison before I sold my S1 units just for this reason as I thought the same.

[Ilan1]

I have just received my 3 Antminers and plugged them in, they have all powered up OK but my SKY Router wont detect them as a device, its like something is blocking them from being detected, I tried 192.168.1.99 but nothing happens and when I try 192.168.0.1 and ask my router to find the attached device it will not detect the Antminer  can anyone help? is it my router that's the problem?

Your router is on a different network. 192.168.0.x is different then 192.168.1.x
If you have a ehternet cable and a spare PC set the PC to a static IP in the 192.168.1.x range, connect to the antminer and change the IP info so it is on the 192.168.0.x network.

Hi thank you, I have a spare PC and Ethernet cable, sorry but how do I set the PC to a static IP in the 192.168.1.x range?

[spazzdla]

I have just received my 3 Antminers and plugged them in, they have all powered up OK but my SKY Router wont detect them as a device, its like something is blocking them from being detected, I tried 192.168.1.99 but nothing happens and when I try 192.168.0.1 and ask my router to find the attached device it will not detect the Antminer  can anyone help? is it my router that's the problem?

Your router is on a different network. 192.168.0.x is different then 192.168.1.x
If you have a ehternet cable and a spare PC set the PC to a static IP in the 192.168.1.x range, connect to the antminer and change the IP info so it is on the 192.168.0.x network.

Hi thank you, I have a spare PC and Ethernet cable, sorry but how do I set the PC to a static IP in the 192.168.1.x range?

Control Panel > network and sharing > Change adaptor settings(Network connections) > doulbe click on our either net conneciton > Properties > Douple clikc on INternet Protocl Versign 4(TCP/IPv4) > Change to use the folloiwng address, enter 192.168.1.130.

You will lose internet connection but then type 192.168.1.99 into web page and program miner.  ONce done re-open IPv4 Properites, put back to obtain IP addres automatically.

For your DNS server on the miner I highly recommend 8.8.8.8 it's googles.

[atledenin]

I have a bit of a problem. Hoping someone can help, I'm fine with computers but have no clue when it comes to network addresses etc.

To start with, I couldn't change the routers subnet so I went through a direct PC connection. Logged into the Ant fine & changed to DCHP. The Ant still had 192.168.1.99/24 as the IPv4 address at that time.

Here's where I went wrong perhaps, I had to connect to the internet again to get details for my pool (having to disconnect from the Ants), and since then I haven't been able to re-login to the Antminers. I've tried resetting them and trying to find them via the router, but they are not there. Anyone have any idea what went wrong/how I can login to them again pls?

Download Advanced IP Scanner and run that. It should find your Ant.

Good advice, but if you do find the IP address is still .1.99 and you can't log into it try a factory reset and plug directly in again.  I had a similar problem with my S1 when I first got it.  Played around with the settings and couldn't even connect directly to my lappy.  I could see it using IP scanner, but couldn't get to the login page because of the different subnet.  

I just changed the IP on my miner after to suit my routers subnet (.0.99)

Now doing a factory reset on an S3, I'm a B3'er so I have no idea if this is possible.  On the S1 there was a tiny button on the logic board.  I'd press it, then turn off at the power supply about 5 seconds after, power back up and it would be back to factory settings.

Hope that helps  

[contactlight]

Did anyone notice that their miner was already configured to mine at peculiar IP addresses or just antpool? My miner even had a name, suggesting that they were at least mining with 500 of these miners.

[bobsav2121]

Wow it really looks like Bitmain dropped the ball on these.
ALL the S1's were rock solid and everybody got the same hash rate. Plus everyone could overclock if you so desired.

These S3's have hash rates all over the board.  Some work right some dont.

My units are running at 440 GH right out of the box with stock clock.
Guess I was lucky, but luck shouldn't have anything to do with it.

Wonder if they will fix these problems or just keep pumping out defective units ?

Bob

[CryptoGuy]

Wow it really looks like Bitmain dropped the ball on these.
ALL the S1's were rock solid and everybody got the same hash rate. Plus everyone could overclock if you so desired.

These S3's have hash rates all over the board.  Some work right some dont.

My units are running at 440 GH right out of the box with stock clock.
Guess I was lucky, but luck shouldn't have anything to do with it.

Wonder if they will fix these problems or just keep pumping out defective units ?

Bob

They did say they had an issue with the DC/DC converter. To what extent I don't know. With that said, it's better they ship what they have and deal with giving some sort of % refund (which they already have offered) than to sit on the miners and tell us "next week" like other hardware companies do. They haven't opened B4 so one can assume they intend to fix the issue before opening sales again.

[illyack]

All of mine, get from 440 to 470GH, running solid for two days now.

[contactlight]

Luckily both of mine hash at ~450GH/s using the default settings. I haven't tried overclocking them since I haven't received my second power supply yet. I will give that a try when I get it tomorrow.

[aztecminer]

Found out why one of my units was not hashing and having X's on the chips. Paste was everywhere on the inside. Even the screws holding the heat sink on had thermal paste on them.
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Messy paste wont effect anything but poor cooling, unless your units are overheating, that's not the problem

His look far better than mine did... lol.  I had paste on the chips, on the pcb, on the connectors... everywhere.

correct me if i am wrong, but if others suggest that paste is there to provide a thermal connection between a chip and a heat sink, then with heat sink sitting on the top of the chips in s3, I don't see how it could be done by anything other than having paste on the top of the chips (but not necessarily on connectors, I get that).

not sure what you are asking there...

are there other ways to have a thermal connection between chip and heat sink? sure, you can buy thermal pads. search ebay. youll see in the specs that they are massively electrically resistant. need 1000's of volts to make them conduct. Same goes for thermal paste. Its very unlikely that swimming in thermal paste (even on connectors) would cause any problem at all...

yep, but the OP said that cleaning paste improved his machine. If what you are saying is 100% correct about swimming in thermal paste not causing any problems, then why his S3 was improved by removing excess and reapplying some? I just want to understand and from what I heard here, it seems that paste should be on the top of the chip in S3.

After cleaning all the paste off the chips and surrounding PCB, the unit is working at 440 GH/s after 6 hours. All that extra paste can mess with the voltages on a chip and cause hardware issues. Thermal paste should always be on top of the chip with none running over the sides. On a full sized CPU an amount the size of a pea should be applied. On a small ASIC chip the paste should be just a tiny amount and let the heat sink spread it out. If mine is not that bad, all I can think is some dude with a Taco Bell sour cream gun filled with thermal paste is shooting this stuff on.  

what ?? your saying taco bell uses thermal paste ?? you are right the thermal past should not be gooped on the chip covering the entire chip connectors and other nearby electronic components. i always replace stock thermal paste on pretty much everything anyways: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835426035

[Kaega]

Did anyone notice that their miner was already configured to mine at peculiar IP addresses or just antpool? My miner even had a name, suggesting that they were at least mining with 500 of these miners.

Every S1 or S3 I've received has been this way and though some of my S1's were filthy, my S3's so far seem fairly clean.

[Ilan1]

I have just received my 3 Antminers and plugged them in, they have all powered up OK but my SKY Router wont detect them as a device, its like something is blocking them from being detected, I tried 192.168.1.99 but nothing happens and when I try 192.168.0.1 and ask my router to find the attached device it will not detect the Antminer  can anyone help? is it my router that's the problem?

Your router is on a different network. 192.168.0.x is different then 192.168.1.x
If you have a ehternet cable and a spare PC set the PC to a static IP in the 192.168.1.x range, connect to the antminer and change the IP info so it is on the 192.168.0.x network.

Hi thank you, I have a spare PC and Ethernet cable, sorry but how do I set the PC to a static IP in the 192.168.1.x range?

Control Panel > network and sharing > Change adaptor settings(Network connections) > doulbe click on our either net conneciton > Properties > Douple clikc on INternet Protocl Versign 4(TCP/IPv4) > Change to use the folloiwng address, enter 192.168.1.130.

You will lose internet connection but then type 192.168.1.99 into web page and program miner.  ONce done re-open IPv4 Properites, put back to obtain IP addres automatically.

For your DNS server on the miner I highly recommend 8.8.8.8 it's googles.

Sorted, got the IP addresses changed, now I will config the pools, many thanks for your help would not have figured it out without it!!

[iikun]

I have a bit of a problem. Hoping someone can help, I'm fine with computers but have no clue when it comes to network addresses etc.

To start with, I couldn't change the routers subnet so I went through a direct PC connection. Logged into the Ant fine & changed to DCHP. The Ant still had 192.168.1.99/24 as the IPv4 address at that time.

Here's where I went wrong perhaps, I had to connect to the internet again to get details for my pool (having to disconnect from the Ants), and since then I haven't been able to re-login to the Antminers. I've tried resetting them and trying to find them via the router, but they are not there. Anyone have any idea what went wrong/how I can login to them again pls?

Download Advanced IP Scanner and run that. It should find your Ant.

Good advice, but if you do find the IP address is still .1.99 and you can't log into it try a factory reset and plug directly in again.  I had a similar problem with my S1 when I first got it.  Played around with the settings and couldn't even connect directly to my lappy.  I could see it using IP scanner, but couldn't get to the login page because of the different subnet.  

I just changed the IP on my miner after to suit my routers subnet (.0.99)

Now doing a factory reset on an S3, I'm a B3'er so I have no idea if this is possible.  On the S1 there was a tiny button on the logic board.  I'd press it, then turn off at the power supply about 5 seconds after, power back up and it would be back to factory settings.

Hope that helps  

Thanks silverthorne, that was exactly the problem.

atledenin, Both Ants were still 192.168.1.99 but no matter how many times I reset the things I can't seem to log in as I did before.  This is getting frustrating, even GPU mining felt easier than this lol

[CryptoGuy]

Found out why one of my units was not hashing and having X's on the chips. Paste was everywhere on the inside. Even the screws holding the heat sink on had thermal paste on them.
images removed

Messy paste wont effect anything but poor cooling, unless your units are overheating, that's not the problem

His look far better than mine did... lol.  I had paste on the chips, on the pcb, on the connectors... everywhere.

correct me if i am wrong, but if others suggest that paste is there to provide a thermal connection between a chip and a heat sink, then with heat sink sitting on the top of the chips in s3, I don't see how it could be done by anything other than having paste on the top of the chips (but not necessarily on connectors, I get that).

not sure what you are asking there...

are there other ways to have a thermal connection between chip and heat sink? sure, you can buy thermal pads. search ebay. youll see in the specs that they are massively electrically resistant. need 1000's of volts to make them conduct. Same goes for thermal paste. Its very unlikely that swimming in thermal paste (even on connectors) would cause any problem at all...

yep, but the OP said that cleaning paste improved his machine. If what you are saying is 100% correct about swimming in thermal paste not causing any problems, then why his S3 was improved by removing excess and reapplying some? I just want to understand and from what I heard here, it seems that paste should be on the top of the chip in S3.

After cleaning all the paste off the chips and surrounding PCB, the unit is working at 440 GH/s after 6 hours. All that extra paste can mess with the voltages on a chip and cause hardware issues. Thermal paste should always be on top of the chip with none running over the sides. On a full sized CPU an amount the size of a pea should be applied. On a small ASIC chip the paste should be just a tiny amount and let the heat sink spread it out. If mine is not that bad, all I can think is some dude with a Taco Bell sour cream gun filled with thermal paste is shooting this stuff on.  

what ?? your saying taco bell uses thermal paste ?? you are right the thermal past should not be gooped on the chip covering the entire chip connectors and other nearby electronic components. i always replace stock thermal paste on pretty much everything anyways: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835426035

Best practice to ensure you don't get too much is to put a small amount on the chip then spread it evenly with a business card, drivers license or the like. The layer of paste in most cases only needs to be a couple mils thick. It's only intended to take up any air gaps between the chip and heatsink, nothing more. Additionally, thermal paste such as Arctic Silver have silver particles in it so yes it will conduct electricity.

[Biodom]

I have a bit of a problem. Hoping someone can help, I'm fine with computers but have no clue when it comes to network addresses etc.

To start with, I couldn't change the routers subnet so I went through a direct PC connection. Logged into the Ant fine & changed to DCHP. The Ant still had 192.168.1.99/24 as the IPv4 address at that time.

Here's where I went wrong perhaps, I had to connect to the internet again to get details for my pool (having to disconnect from the Ants), and since then I haven't been able to re-login to the Antminers. I've tried resetting them and trying to find them via the router, but they are not there. Anyone have any idea what went wrong/how I can login to them again pls?

Download Advanced IP Scanner and run that. It should find your Ant.

thanks for your reply.  Funnily enough I had just run that software, but Ants are not found :/  Which is weird because the lights are happily flashing away & I'm sure they're mining to Bitmain's account no problem over my network somehow.

my ip scanner reports ants as Paragon technologies

[contactlight]

I have a bit of a problem. Hoping someone can help, I'm fine with computers but have no clue when it comes to network addresses etc.

To start with, I couldn't change the routers subnet so I went through a direct PC connection. Logged into the Ant fine & changed to DCHP. The Ant still had 192.168.1.99/24 as the IPv4 address at that time.

Here's where I went wrong perhaps, I had to connect to the internet again to get details for my pool (having to disconnect from the Ants), and since then I haven't been able to re-login to the Antminers. I've tried resetting them and trying to find them via the router, but they are not there. Anyone have any idea what went wrong/how I can login to them again pls?

Download Advanced IP Scanner and run that. It should find your Ant.

thanks for your reply.  Funnily enough I had just run that software, but Ants are not found :/  Which is weird because the lights are happily flashing away & I'm sure they're mining to Bitmain's account no problem over my network somehow.

my ip scanner reports ants as Paragon technologies

There is nothing icky about that. Looking up the manufacturer from a MAC address is often inaccurate, and on top of that it reports the manufacturer of the network interface controller on the device, not the manufacturer of the device.

[Biodom]

Found out why one of my units was not hashing and having X's on the chips. Paste was everywhere on the inside. Even the screws holding the heat sink on had thermal paste on them.
images removed

Messy paste wont effect anything but poor cooling, unless your units are overheating, that's not the problem

His look far better than mine did... lol.  I had paste on the chips, on the pcb, on the connectors... everywhere.

correct me if i am wrong, but if others suggest that paste is there to provide a thermal connection between a chip and a heat sink, then with heat sink sitting on the top of the chips in s3, I don't see how it could be done by anything other than having paste on the top of the chips (but not necessarily on connectors, I get that).

not sure what you are asking there...

are there other ways to have a thermal connection between chip and heat sink? sure, you can buy thermal pads. search ebay. youll see in the specs that they are massively electrically resistant. need 1000's of volts to make them conduct. Same goes for thermal paste. Its very unlikely that swimming in thermal paste (even on connectors) would cause any problem at all...

yep, but the OP said that cleaning paste improved his machine. If what you are saying is 100% correct about swimming in thermal paste not causing any problems, then why his S3 was improved by removing excess and reapplying some? I just want to understand and from what I heard here, it seems that paste should be on the top of the chip in S3.

After cleaning all the paste off the chips and surrounding PCB, the unit is working at 440 GH/s after 6 hours. All that extra paste can mess with the voltages on a chip and cause hardware issues. Thermal paste should always be on top of the chip with none running over the sides. On a full sized CPU an amount the size of a pea should be applied. On a small ASIC chip the paste should be just a tiny amount and let the heat sink spread it out. If mine is not that bad, all I can think is some dude with a Taco Bell sour cream gun filled with thermal paste is shooting this stuff on.  

what ?? your saying taco bell uses thermal paste ?? you are right the thermal past should not be gooped on the chip covering the entire chip connectors and other nearby electronic components. i always replace stock thermal paste on pretty much everything anyways: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835426035

Best practice to ensure you don't get too much is to put a small amount on the chip then spread it evenly with a business card, drivers license or the like. The layer of paste in most cases only needs to be a couple mils thick. It's only intended to take up any air gaps between the chip and heatsink, nothing more. Additionally, thermal paste such as Arctic Silver have silver particles in it so yes it will conduct electricity.

what is the point of thermal paste to conduct electricity? I think that you are incorrect. silver is there to conduct heat better. Because silver particles are surrounded by non-conductive filler, electricity is NOT conducted.
see:
http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm