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9561  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: March 18, 2017, 02:37:13 PM
I recently invested my bitcoin HIP and suffered a loss (((
Therefore, I do not advise investing in it.
Now I want to invest in something more reliable. Or just have extra money in bitcoins.
each investment has a different risk. hyip include investments with a large risk with the possibility of quick and large profit. before you berinvestasu you should know the risks you're going to face

Yeah right, I think HYIP is very risky, one years ago I lost about 5 btc from scam HYIP. I'm regretI let alone price bitcoin is currently reaching over $1.000 or 4 times that of a year ago. If I hold of course can buying a new car.

I agree HYIP and MLM schemes have been there since a long time and they are always scam. People think about making money with them but end up getting scammed and cry about it. I think the best way to earn is to work for bitcoin.

Investing bitcoin can be done in bitcoin itself by trading bitcoin. Also altcoin trading but that is very risky. Some people might even find buying a miner is a good investment if the other costs are minimal. Another good thing people do is invest in casino bankroll for long term profits.
9562  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: March 18, 2017, 02:33:41 PM
I don't gambling is wrong at all unless you are gambling in limits as you should always know what are your limits and should know when to withdraw and if you can successfully do this then there is no harm in gambling and even you can make quick bucks from it.

Though this is technically how people can make profits in gambling, it does not work in practice. People are too greedy and they want more and more, so they just keep on gambling and forget about all limits even if they had already set a limit.

Again losing money at casino makes then play more and more. That is why we should never chase losses. Losses chased leads to more losses and stacking up of losses.
9563  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: March 18, 2017, 02:31:09 PM
actually there is always very little risk if you have invested your money in gambling and specially if you have if you are running your own casino as there is always edge to the house to make money.

There is always a risk involved and no matter how small the risk is, risk is still risk. From investor's point of view, it is risky as some lucky gambler might be able to bust the house. You can also however make your own site however keep in your mind that not every site is going to be successful around here.

One lucky gambler may win a lot, but another 1000 unlucky people will lose an amount equal to or greater than that lucky person. If we keep thinking of consequences we can never win the situation and build something new. A gambling business is a very profitable one and worth it if you are willing to make one.

To be a successful site here maybe tough. That is why I suggest people to make a physical casino and not an online one.
9564  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: March 18, 2017, 02:27:48 PM
I already lose my bitcoin from playing all the time i go to gambling website where i put my 0.2 bitcoin trying to doubled it when my new strategies in the first im winning the game trying to make more profit but then i already doubled up my bankroll and continue playing then i bet more bigger bets till i get greed and lose everything.

You should not go for profit if you are going to gamble or find some good website that you want to double that amount. It's better if you are going to trade that amount and grow it with yourself. And the main reason why most of us are not getting successful in gambling is that we are greedy. You should take the chance to be not greedy anymore in your next try.
yeah it's actually a common case where someone actually have managed to doubled their money but can't handle the desire to keep playing to get more money. it's indeed the worst mistake , yeah a worst common mistake. i bet everyone have experienced something like this , but there's worse case when after your losing you force yourself to gamble with other people money and get a lot of debt.

That's why most of us who gamble this way are just making a mistake. Because those casino's are even showing their leader boards, sometimes we want our names to be displayed as one of those high winners. But before to be on that board we need to go through with hardship and a lot of mistake that's why we keep on losing.
people always want to make money in gambling. and for that they always make try to invest more and more money in gambling and for most of the time they lose their own money.

Investing money in casino bankroll and gambling that money is totally different things. We can invest our money in the casino bankroll and that money will be taken into the total balance of the casino. Then the people losing would lead to an increase in the share we have and this is a long term investment.

Again gambling our money is mostly a loss unless you play some EV+ games like poker and sports betting.
9565  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: March 17, 2017, 12:24:42 PM
My worst mistake has always been "if I knew I would win I would have increased my bankroll ". I normally rue not staking more whenever a game turns out my way and I think those are just the little things that I consider a mistake in my gambling life.

Thats exactly what the casino owners want you to do. If you bet more there are high chances for you to lose more and hence they will profit. It all goes that way because they are owners. The players are the losers if they dont realize that the casino owners are out to rob them and not do charity to throw money at everyone. The owners would otherwise would have gone bankrupt and that never happens.
9566  Other / Off-topic / Re: How are you earning BTC? on: March 17, 2017, 12:20:53 PM
Trading is the primary source of earning bitcoins for me and next thing is from signature campaign as this are the most popular ways of earning bitcoins at a moment I guess and majority of people are earning good amount of bitcoins from it and sometimes I prefer to gamble but that is rarest of rare and never depend on those earnings as I am not sure what will be the end result.
Earning through Trading is difficult you must have knowledge and time to learn what you need in Trading, Also. Earning through the signature campaign is popular since you only need HQ posts to ear. Well, almost people here is using the signature campaign to gather some money and start in Trading.

Trading is not difficult and in fact no investment is difficult. It just needs practice and hard work with determination. In order to get started with trading we must have the basic skills and how to buy/sell. Then as you trade you will learn from mistakes.

I agree signature campaigns are good as well. But its mostly quality posts that need to be made in order to earn from them. The forum is also full of shitposters and the campaign managers are doing a good job maintaining a blacklist against them.
9567  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: March 17, 2017, 12:16:19 PM
It's very easy to turn gambling into a profitable activity. There are more ways to do it but just choose what suits you. The first thing, I did know is by being an owner of a casino and that will make gambling as profitable for your part. And another thing is nothing but being an investor to a bankroll casino that will give you an advantage too.

Indeed by becoming the owner of one of the existing gambling is a greater advantage over having to play in the gambling, but I need to know if you would like to be the owner of the gambling Centre then things you should do is heavier compared to the players in the gambling. One of them is making a very safe system to avoid hacking and also make a game system that fit and suitable for everyone, and the most important thing is promotion, and your Ministry
 
Everything is possible if you have the money, the sad thing is we are gambling because we do not have that kind of capital to start on our own. We are hoping someday we will be able to win a big amount from gambling to be able to realize our dream to run a business and because we are living on that dream we will not be profitable in gambling as our chance of winning is low compared to a gambling site who's continually making good money.
Thats why those person who have money really plans to create their own gambling site because they do know that there are lots of people would really play because they do believe that they could able to make money on playing gambling but in reality that not how it goes and it directly went on opposite way which is always losing.

It's good for them if they have the ability to start their very own gambling site. As it is one of the fastest growing industry in the bitcoin economy. With bitcoin's popularity for being anonymous those people that in real gambling when hearing this will absolutely try it out and that's why the vast creation of new gambling sites are happening.

Its very profitable industry and worth setting up if you have land and proper positioning. People are bound to come because of their greed and thus profits are sureshot. Just cheaters and botters are the ones you need to be careful about and also legal department. Make sure to have proper promotional content as well, banners for advertising and you are all set.
9568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: March 17, 2017, 12:10:23 PM
Gambling. Is It Wrong?
for me it is wrorg wrong wrong
i lost 2.05btc
ihave 0 btc now

I agree it is wrong when you have lost money and then you will always feel that. Sorry for your loss but let this be a lesson for you and dont ever think of gambling again. In the mean time try to get your skills to work and earn the money that you have lost. Make every drop of sweat count and dont stop until your earn that amount in a hardworking manner.
9569  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: March 16, 2017, 12:32:57 PM
Personally, I dont think gambling is wrong, gambling is not wrong
only you can't control yourself to play it. Remember, dont think that gambling is easy way to make a lot of money.

I agree that it is self control what people must enforce in order to stop gambling. But this thread is about the right or wrong of gambling. Our religion considers gambling as a sin. Its also considered as one of bad karma. So for us it is wrong.

I think its tough to make money in gambling. Since it totally depends on luck and not any skills we can never keep on making money - we will lose it if we keep playing more and more.
9570  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: March 16, 2017, 12:29:40 PM
Do you think if BTC had a stable price which could only be altered by $0.01-0.10 it would still be as popular and as used?

Bitcoin has been already  popular a couple of years past even up to now it became more popular because of the demand of the people who'll get interest to use bitcoin. Moreover, there are big whaler investors are adopting the concepts of it too.

It has been popular at a high rate since the release of bitcoin. People have been using it and understanding all the benefits of using it above fiat currency. As acceptance grows, so will the price increase. The investors are important to pump the price as well. They are the ones who are also profiting from it. So the price is important but there are other factors as well.
yes it is a fact that it is already a popular currency and now people are getting benefit from bitcoin. people are mostly investing their fiat in bitcoin as they are expecting that the price of bitcoin will increase more and more.

Many people have put away a lot of savings in bitcoin. This in turn made them profitmakers because prices were bound to increase. Then again rising prices means ore traders who are attracted and join and invest more into it. So all this leads to even more increase in price. Anyone who invests in bitcoin trading is now bound to make profits.
9571  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: March 16, 2017, 12:27:11 PM
create income continuously in gambling can indeed make your activity becomes better. in addition, you can also practice how to control themselves from gambling. but, all the risks are inversely proportional to the advantage that you can.

From all my experiences , I can tell that there is no way to get profit no matter how many experience that we have. I have been gambling for years however that doesnt really make me a better gambler. In fact I still lose and sometimes win depends on how my luck goes so everything is still depends on luck
yeah basically gambling can only rely on luck , having a strategy to make money steady in the long run through gambling seems like a tough job. it's a -EV , and you have to make it profitbale , really you can't do it easily. i agree that the only thing can save your ass from losing and get a winning streak are your luck, a lot of knowledge in sportsbetting and tons of experience in poker still wouldn't guarantee you anything.
Once you have really tried gambling, you can't really expect the positive expected values, it's all random. Try to be positive always so you can see that there is a chance in winning. It's like what you said, it's not a guarantee.

There is no guarantee in gambling and people already know that before gambling. But it is also true that many people do make money in it and so many people may find it profitable but I never found it to be so. I always rather lose more that what I win and so I consider myself unlucky at gambling. I rather prefer to use my skills and knowledge to earn money.
9572  Other / Off-topic / Re: How are you earning BTC? on: March 16, 2017, 12:24:37 PM
I am earning BTC form fill through. And many other
Softwere through earn.

What you mean earning BTC by filling forms? I have never heard of such methods to earn and that someone will just throw money at you for free if you fill a form. Do explain us on this situation. As much as I can see, I think you are talking of offers that pay you to sign up. Pretty lame in my view.

Softwares to earn? Wow that nothing new, except the fact that those softwares are malwares to infect your computer and not let you earn a penny but rather lose a lot of money. Get a life and job people.
9573  Other / Off-topic / Re: How are you earning BTC? on: March 15, 2017, 12:26:44 PM
Signature campaigns and flat fiat. Trading doesn't work for me, I always seem to lose.

Trading is not that tough, though I accept everything is not for everyone. All you need to be careful is the prices and then buy low and sell high. Hold coins till targets reach. Also never panic about buying or selling, use your logic to decide before you trade.

Altcoin trading is very profitable but risky as well. You can always try bitcoin and fiat trading. I use my signature campaign earnings to trade and am making good profit.
9574  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: March 15, 2017, 12:23:48 PM
There is no such a better way to play in gambling that will turn into a profitable activity. Unless you a type of a veteran gamblers, it would be possible due to they use some sort of analysis in the games like poker, blackjack and sports bet.

It requires practice above all for the EV+ games like poker. And months of training as well. However I think most casinos are rigged to favor the casino itself and not the players. I cant make myself believe the algorithmic methods of fairness proving.

Again in sports betting the analysis of teams may be helpful, but only if the game is not fixed from beforehand. In most cases the games are fixed and not worth betting on.
9575  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: March 15, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
Do you think if BTC had a stable price which could only be altered by $0.01-0.10 it would still be as popular and as used?

Bitcoin has been already  popular a couple of years past even up to now it became more popular because of the demand of the people who'll get interest to use bitcoin. Moreover, there are big whaler investors are adopting the concepts of it too.

It has been popular at a high rate since the release of bitcoin. People have been using it and understanding all the benefits of using it above fiat currency. As acceptance grows, so will the price increase. The investors are important to pump the price as well. They are the ones who are also profiting from it. So the price is important but there are other factors as well.
9576  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: March 14, 2017, 12:24:03 PM
I'm using bitcoins for safety so the price doesn't affect me and yeah bitcoin wil still be used by many even if it had a steady price.

I agree many people use bitcoin just for the advantages it offers over fiat and not that price is high. However that is the part of the population who transacting on bitcoin. The larger community of bitcoin are the traders and for them the price is everything and without the rising and falling price they would never exist. That would lead to the economy being affected badly.
9577  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: March 14, 2017, 12:20:40 PM
All gambling requires a little luck but if you going to sports bet do your homework compares the teams and always factor in the home team has a advantage

Gambling requires shitloads of luck if you ask me. All casino games need luck as the only factor and that luck is very slippery.

I agree that sports betting needs knowledge of games, teams and analysis of past performances. However I have seen many games to be rigged and fixed - where the bookie and the teams are working to make the gamblers lose. Is very common. So its not really fair game at all, in fact it ruins the sportingness of the game.
9578  Other / Off-topic / Re: How are you earning BTC? on: March 14, 2017, 12:14:55 PM
i earn BTC on my ways

1. Capctha solver
2. microworkers , etc


and i used all for gambling  Sad

I dont know how much you earn by captcha solving and all, but I am sure its not more than a few pennies. Faucets, ptc, captcha are good for the newbies to get started into bitcoin and watch their wallet collect the first few bits. However it is important to understand that they are not worth spending time on in the long run.

Try to get a proper job and not gamble - gambling mostly leads to losses if you ask me.
9579  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin is a good investment now, because... on: March 14, 2017, 12:12:12 PM
Bitcoin is a pretty good method of making money if you know how the whole thing works. The only reasons why someone would lose money is if they don't know what Bitcoin is and they just don't know how to hold their coins when the price goes up small percentages.

I am pretty sure that everyone that purchased Bitcoin on the most popular Bitcoin Exchanges before the year of 2015 has made money with Bitcoin if they were holding their Bitcoins.
Yes those people who bought bitcoin before or late 2015 already made a lot of money from their investment in bitcoin but it is not too late for newbies who want to start an investment on bitcoin because it is always good for long term and it already have different proofs on the price chart so i think even you buy bitcoin now, you can still make profit by holding it for long term.

Price has gone very rapidly to higher level in recent few months so even who have bought their coins 6 months back would also be enjoying great profits at a moment and if you are a long term holder then you can even afford to buy at current price as in long term price will sure touch new heights which can give best returns on investments.
Bitcoin is thriving to many, and equally also struggling to me, I believe It would have gone pass this, if not for some factors. A lot had worked to bring it down, from china PBOC to SEC rejection but the reaction to it shows the acceptabilityof so many. The more acceptability the better for the value. I believe it will hit a stable value between 1500-2000 by december

Yeah everyone is hoping to see the price of $2k at the end of the year as bitcoin is gaining more popularity and many new people are showing their willingness to invest in it and if demand continue to goes higher in coming days then we will definitely see much better and higher price of bitcoins in near future and I think its really worth to invest in bitcoins at this stage.
in fact there is still good potential in the price of bitcoin. there people are expecting that the price of bitcoin will increase more and more and hope that very soon will touch 2000 USD level.

I hope it touches that mark of 2000USD soon. Many people are looking forward to it. Bitcoin prices have leaped from time to time and stabilized at new prices as well. That is why it is look up to as an investment and people who are buying bitcoin at any price are bound to get profits in future. They must not panic and hold it long enough.
9580  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin is a good investment now, because... on: March 13, 2017, 09:41:11 AM
I'm sure that buying bitcoins now is very reasonable. We all see how the price is growing rapidly. And we all noticed that the price of bitcoin has become resistant to negative news. I'm sure that by the end of the year we will see 2000 dollars for bitcoin

Yes there had been many negative and fake news as well with propaganda in mind in order to manipulate people's mind into buying or selling bitcoin. However the price has not come down much in recent days and rise is good and well noted.

I do hope acceptance of bitcoin is more widespread in the next few years so we can all use bitcoin easily and convert fiat and bitcoin seamlessly whenever and wherever we want.
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