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9561  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: March 29, 2017, 02:54:29 PM
There's no wrong in gambling but if you doing such abusing to the people that surrounds you because of gambling then that's wrong.

No matter what happens with your gambling career as long you aren't hurting your parents and relatives out of this addiction.

Then you are just doing it fine.
True , but gambling identical to something destructive , something that could make you doing crazy thing.
Especially when you have reached the limit of your emotion , you do something out of your mind.
In most case gambling is wrong but not always.

It will be destructive if you are not going to limit yourself playing it. Because the problem is coming from the gambler itself and not from the gambler.

People tend to say that gambling is the wrong thing but they aren't realizing that it's wrong because of wrong treatment to gambling.

They are treating it as their main source of main source of income which is very wrong.

I would say that being greedy desperate and lazy and thinking that gambling will make you rich in a very short time with minimum amount of work involved is wrong. People wont do charity with you and neither does your luck work out a proper times. If you think gambling in a casino will make you rich then you are very much addicted to it and are probably losing more than winning.

We must not forget that to gamble or not to gamble is totally our own personal choice and the concept of right or wrong rests totally in our hands.
9562  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: March 29, 2017, 02:51:20 PM
Hardly would I recommend some other investment besides Bitcoin, but if you can afford to take bigger risks, you can play with some altcoins, not putting too much money into it, of course.

I agree that bitcoin is very safe and sound for any average investor in trading. The current price fluctuations in bitcoin make it a good source of income for the traders and hence its recommended before any other altcoin. Altcoin trading is there but its risky and not recommended. If you know some altcoin is not going to turn scam you are free to invest in it, but there have been many cases of altcoins being pump and dump schemes and pure MLM schemes. So we must be careful about investing in altcoin trading.
9563  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: March 29, 2017, 02:44:41 PM
Bitcoin Casinos are a good source of income, you can automate the process rather easily but it will require an initial investment of about $15-20,000



You cant just declare and initial investment like that. It depends on several factors and its totally a personal opinion what one wants to invest and not.

Bitcoin casino bankroll investments are good, they pay low but they are good for long term benefits. But there is a big risk of websites getting hacked as well. Though most of the reputed sites here have proper security and emergency measures.

However people casino bankroll investment is not gambling. Many people here seem to misinterpret the two and think both to be same.
I don't think casinos or gambling in particular is a way for steady income. I mean the risk you are taking in gambling is high to know that you are really having a steady income. Even if you have an automated betting system it does not give you assurance that you will win all through out your bets. Also the investment you are saying is not appropriate because there is no such thing as investing in a gambling site.

This shows that people dont read what is written in the post before quoting it and answering in this forum.

First of all if you read the last line of my post - "However people casino bankroll investment is not gambling. Many people here seem to misinterpret the two and think both to be same." - means that gambling and casino bankroll investment are totally different.

In case you dont know you should look into the internet for it before commenting that such things dont exist - they do exist and are very popular in the market of bitcoin investments. Crypto-games.net is an example of one such site.
9564  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: March 29, 2017, 02:39:11 PM
Two kinds of people usually come back.
1. winners, they want to make more money, simple logic.
2. losers, they want to win the losses back, sometimes they are lucky enough to make them back, but most cases are losing all money and broke.
These sort of logic really does not work when it comes to gambling,if you are coming back and you want to extract more money i would call that greed because you really do not know when your luck will run out and the biggest mistake in gambling is coming back to recover your loss,i would rather restart once again rather than try to cover my losses.

He is just pointing the usual reason why gamblers keep coming on gambling. Actually this is the summary for all the post here on this thread. This is actually the real thing that happened on gambling. He didn't mean that this logic will gonna make you success on gambling.

I belong on the losers people that keep coming to recover my loss ATM. But soon i will recover it. Just waiting for the right time and money

No logic works as far as gambling is concerned in casino games. In poker and sports betting there is some chance of winning on your own skills and knowledge as you can analyse the games and predict.

I dont understand why people want to do such charity to the casino owners and gamble more and more. Its a marked loss of money if you try to chase your losses because they will just add more losses and with every win there will be more loss than wins.

Anyway good luck on you trying to win back your money.
9565  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: March 28, 2017, 02:55:01 PM
I feel that I can't live without gambling, and that's because I do it for fun. I know that everyone have their own purpose of doing it, and I have that.
I try to gamble I know that what if I lose, it won't affect my life at all and keep doing it because I sometimes win something that nobody can even think about and winning is also a reason that keeps attracting me to do it in a repetitive manner.
i am wondering how can you survive keep gambling in regular time but did not get addicted?

a lot of people have tried it out to gamble for fun without have to care about make profit/money. but still sooner or later it makes them chasing for profit in the end , mostly can not accept the fact they have spent a lot of times / money and all of them just wasted , that is why they come back to play.

Most of them dont survive. Period

Those who gamble away their money for fun and keep the deposits to a minimum without being greedy do survive and manage to enjoy their time. But many people are desperate and greedy for money. They want more and more - never are they satisfied with anything - which is the nature of human greed.

They end up losing a lot and going broke. However many do reform themselves and work hard to earn back their debts as well.
9566  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: March 28, 2017, 02:51:59 PM
Bitcoin Casinos are a good source of income, you can automate the process rather easily but it will require an initial investment of about $15-20,000



You cant just declare and initial investment like that. It depends on several factors and its totally a personal opinion what one wants to invest and not.

Bitcoin casino bankroll investments are good, they pay low but they are good for long term benefits. But there is a big risk of websites getting hacked as well. Though most of the reputed sites here have proper security and emergency measures.

However people casino bankroll investment is not gambling. Many people here seem to misinterpret the two and think both to be same.
9567  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: March 28, 2017, 02:48:46 PM
Previous days had been good enough for alts when a strong fight between Bitcoin and BU spotted fire, but as it is now a thing full of bugs and unable to come into existence soon and may be launched anytime, alt days have gone currently and everyone is getting their investments out of them to put back into Bitcoins because the price will pump back to $1200 level soon. So, I think that it is better to stay in bitcoins itself than moving them into anything and risking your portfolio.

I think there is still life in Altcoin market because the uncertainties surrounding Bitcoin scaling debate is still hanging in the air. I think Altcoin bull market will reached Q3 of this year

So I guess the people can invest in altcoin at the moment. Only those which are going to rise in price in future though. Bitcoin will remain strong and safe as usual even after hard forking. People can invest and trade in bitcoin for many more years to come and it will still be worth it.

Be careful of hyip sites and MLM sites which claim to know a lot and are actually just ponzi schemes run to steal our money. Many altcoins have run scam too so be careful of what you invest in.
9568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: March 28, 2017, 02:45:28 PM
Gambling is wrong when you over played and when you lose tone of money on it using and asking for debts just to play and fulfill your addiction in gambling. This is why gambling turning into wrong activity but you can avoid it by playing every other week or maybe just control emotion.
failure to control emotions is one of the mistakes when we play gambling. due to emotional instability, we can not play well. we will always fail when it could not cope with it all right.
yes and one of the most difficult job in gambling is to control your emotions, i think most of the people are losing money because they do not have control over their emotions if a person will have control over their emotions then i am sure that they will remain successful in gambling.

If they have control over emotions they can reduce their losses and make sure they dont go broke in the heat of the game. Knowing when to stop and call it a day is important for a gambler. Every gambler has that day once a while they lose a lot and cant make up, but that does not mean we must gamble to chase our losses which in turn leads to more losses.
9569  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: March 27, 2017, 02:38:32 PM
I do not think that gambling make a person lazy as it is not a source of easy money but it only provide some entertainment and if someone will seek for money in gambling then he will fail and only a few lucky people become millionaire in gambling. The main purpose of gambling is to play games for fun and enjoy.

It doesnt however some people do treat it as that. It happened to few people and they lose common sense of their life. It is crazy to see how people are that desperate for money. When you lose your common sense you will do things that you are not supposed to do such as treating gambling as a way for an easy source of money

Desperate for money is one thing and being greedy for money is another thing. Those lazy people we are talking about are the ones who are greedy and wont work hard for the money rather try to use their luck to earn it for them while they take rest on a couch.

Problem is many people do understand the fact that gambling wont bring them much earnings but are still lazy enough to not try to get a job or learn some skills to try to get a job.
Yes but if someone is lazy and doesn't want to work than how will he get money for gamble? Loan maybe and than try to win? It sounds more stupid to me than greedy. IMO opinion greedy person will continue to gamble even if he wins something, it has nothing to do with laziness or job. Many greedy gamblers are actually working hard and than lose all money which is also stupid. 
Its just really stupid for people to work very hard and then spend all and lose all the money they have on playing gambling and i dont know what are the things they do have to their minds to do such act.its just like a suicide thing specially if you do have a family.

In most cases if you go into to look into the lives of such people, you will encounter some broke dude who does not even have a proper income. Maybe they come from some country where GDP is very low and they can even feed themselves twice a meal per day. Its the way they see in trying a desperate mode to try to earn something. Its the pain of the tummy - they say which is unbearable and makes you do all sorts of anti-social stuff other than gambling as well.
9570  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: March 27, 2017, 02:35:10 PM
I suppose into altcoins if you don't already think your Bitcoin is enough of an investment in itself. Coins like Litecoin, Dogecoin, Ethereum, and the like are examples.

First of all be careful about any altcoin that you encounter before you invest in it to trade. Many ICOs here and there have been pure scams and people have lost millions in them by buying it and then prices are so low that they cant even sell for any profit. I wont name any but there are several coins which also just became "dead" and hence not worth investing in them. The remaining few are worth investing in and can give you profits. But even then I still consider altcoin trading to be a very risky job and bitcoin is much safer than that.
9571  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: March 27, 2017, 02:30:48 PM
If you want a steady income then you need to work for it. Your skill and smart ways can make you successful. Bitcoin is being treated as a business because it use for online investments. Investing on the bank roll is better than just playing all around.

Only a job can ensure a steady income. Otherwise whatever method you try to earn from is risky and not "steady". A steady flow of coins? most likely impossible without you doing any hard work.

Bitcoin selling and buying is good and its risky but worth it. If you want to play safe you can trade by buying low and selling high. Mostly you can make profits that way but that is less than daily earnings.

Casino bankroll investing is good, but it is also a long term investment and not for the people who want to make money in a quick manner - which is the majority of this forum.
9572  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: March 27, 2017, 02:25:24 PM
The winning that happens unexpected keep users come back and participate into gambling activities even if failure occurs after a continuous participation.

This is another reason why people get addicted to gambling. When they win big amounts they think their luck to be on their side and that false sense of euphoria which makes them bet more and more. But suddenly that luck is nowhere to be found they end up losing all that they won and back to square one. Then either they deposit more money to gamble more or they walk away. Most of them do the first path and this leads to addiction.
9573  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: March 26, 2017, 10:11:06 AM
I do not gamble to much but it always seems that when I do, I take the loss big time.  For example, I have lost over 3 BTC in the BustaBit game online.  It is fun and I like to play but I always get greedy with it.  I have won about 2.2 BTC back, but I lost more than what I have won.  For some odd reason, I keep coming back over and over.  I do not know why I do it, why do you?

It's 100% gambling addiction, and if that's the case it wouldn't be so easy to surrender it because it may take due process of time. Or the other reason why keeps you coming back over and over is maybe it give satisfaction or fulfillment to the gamblers.

I agree this dude is totally addicted to gambling. 5.5+ BTC lost is a huge amount in my local currency and I cant even think about doing anything but crying if that would have happened to me.

I do not know what type of fun/fulfillment this gives once a person loses everything. Are you doing charity for the casinos? like seriously you should get a job and get a life and stop being addicted since its only going to kill you and your family in the long run.
9574  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: March 26, 2017, 10:08:28 AM
Signature campaign can really give you the steady income especially for the higher ranks and for me this is the easiest way. For just posting and joining dicussions you could already earn money plus the learnings you will acquire about crypto world.
Participating on a signature campaign is a good option ,you only need to post constructive and periodically in each day. usually weekly earnings will be paid by manager. and it was included in steady earnings.


It is a steady earning I agree. However many people here get greedy and end up spamming the entire forum. This is detrimental to both the users and the forum and a big headache for the moderators. Hence not everyone should get into it unless they have had a first hand experience in the forum yet.

Getting a job that pays you in bitcoin - freelancing for such work is the best way for a steady income. You can always supplement this earning with signature campaigns and trading income.
9575  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: March 26, 2017, 10:05:24 AM
What are the best investment opetions for bitcoins to be put into?
Please post here!
You can invest in genesis cloud mining.But its monthly income is less and it would take some months for you to even recover your investment.Better,hold your investment in bitcoin itself in a long term basis.

On this day I dont think even genesis mining is good or worth investing in. They are using discounts and promos to get more users into their system but I highly doubt that this is going towards a  masked ponzi scheme unless they find a way to make proper earnings to get the cash flow done properly.

I agree that holding bitcoin is currently the way to go. Better if you buy some bitcoin at the current state since the prices have dropped and you as a trader should invest in some more coins at this stage. Then keep patience and hold them until you feel you reach a target to sell them.
9576  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: March 26, 2017, 10:01:10 AM
I do not think that gambling make a person lazy as it is not a source of easy money but it only provide some entertainment and if someone will seek for money in gambling then he will fail and only a few lucky people become millionaire in gambling. The main purpose of gambling is to play games for fun and enjoy.

It doesnt however some people do treat it as that. It happened to few people and they lose common sense of their life. It is crazy to see how people are that desperate for money. When you lose your common sense you will do things that you are not supposed to do such as treating gambling as a way for an easy source of money

Desperate for money is one thing and being greedy for money is another thing. Those lazy people we are talking about are the ones who are greedy and wont work hard for the money rather try to use their luck to earn it for them while they take rest on a couch.

Problem is many people do understand the fact that gambling wont bring them much earnings but are still lazy enough to not try to get a job or learn some skills to try to get a job.
9577  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: March 25, 2017, 03:02:53 PM
Gambling will be a wrong thing to do if we rely on it to fulfill our daily needs and we ignored other things in our life like family, job, study etc. There is a chance for us to be a very lazy person because of gambling if we can't control it.

It's really hard for so many people to understand this gambling is not a way to rely on it for our needs. If we take it just for fun than it is nice option available to make at any time when we want to get relax on weekend.

If we keep gambling to be a pastime and not rely it on as a source of money we can have fun and not lose a huge portion of money in doing so. If we become greedy and get tempted to waste money on gambling here and there we will soon run into empty pockets and in debts if done too much. Problem is that gambling addiction is a vicious cycle and we cannot accept the fact that we lost our own hard earned money. However this should be considered beforehand before even thinking of gambling.
9578  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: March 25, 2017, 02:59:41 PM
Best to invest right now is to buy bitcoin as price is continously
rising. You can also trade some altcoins seems price right now
is cheaper, the best time to invest also and hold it. For sure,
price well increase though. Thus, hold your bitcoin seems
increasing its demands.
Right now bitcoin dropped at below 1100$, but no worries it can still recover we just don't know when Smiley
However, investing in some altcoins was a good idea also to take the chance then hold it for a long term.
There is nothing strange about price touching below $1000 mark. In fact, it was long coming and that goes to show what bullish pressure is at work on Bitcoin. At any rate, drops in price like these are actually good sights for smart traders, because they present another opportunity to buy Bitcoin at reduced price. We all know by now what Bitcoin is capable of in terms of appreciation in value!

Real traders who have been with bitcoin for sometime now know about these drops in bitcoin price very well. These are times to buy more coins because prices are low and then hold it for the next rise in price. Rises will happen and are bound to happen in the future. So people should not worry about selling pressure low price but rather focus on consolidating their assets for future tradings to be done.
9579  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: March 25, 2017, 02:56:58 PM
best in what way? if you're talking about risky but profitable then holding cryptocurrencies that have strong support. if you want something with minimal risk but far less return you're better off going with mutual funds.

There is actually nothing called "best" investment. Every investment carries its won risk and if you cant handle it you should steer clear of it. Trading bitcoin/fiat and altcoin are profitable according to me. Mining used to profitable at one time and not so at this point.

People in this forum also earn by using their skills and knowledge to work for others - freelancing. You can also try joining signature campaigns which are very popular, but make sure not to spam the forum but rather make proper constructive posts.

For the time being, there is more unity in the altcoins such as Ethreum or the Monero, that is the people people are buying them.


Don't plan for today, you have to plan for the long run. I dont want to comment about altcoins but i want to tell more about btc to you is it is very secured than other investment options, here you can earn by doing investments, trading, selling and mining. according to me more than any other way of investment btc is good.

I agree that altcoins are always in a state of fluctuation, which is good for the traders and risky as well. However they do tend to end up as dead coins soon after initial hype of investing goes away and then the developers abandon the project and people start calling it a scam coin.

Im saying in general this is the scenario for many years now and hence bitcoin is more secure and worthy as an investment if you are into that type of trading.
9580  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: March 24, 2017, 03:07:25 PM
best in what way? if you're talking about risky but profitable then holding cryptocurrencies that have strong support. if you want something with minimal risk but far less return you're better off going with mutual funds.

There is actually nothing called "best" investment. Every investment carries its won risk and if you cant handle it you should steer clear of it. Trading bitcoin/fiat and altcoin are profitable according to me. Mining used to profitable at one time and not so at this point.

People in this forum also earn by using their skills and knowledge to work for others - freelancing. You can also try joining signature campaigns which are very popular, but make sure not to spam the forum but rather make proper constructive posts.
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