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961  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - $500 Daily Race! 30% Rakeback! DICE with the best autobet mode on: July 13, 2020, 05:46:21 PM
The major flaw on martingale is the player getting greedy or relying too much on autoroll.  That is when martingale become very risky to the point of devastating to someone's bank roll

Greed has ruined many a gambler indeed

However, I don't agree that autobet is the major flaw of martingale, or a flaw at all. Again, it is how you use it and for what purpose exactly. If you are going to beat the house edge through variance, autobet is a blessing as the more rolls you can make per unit of time the better. Metaphorically speaking, you are not going to catch the cat by its fat tail after 10 rolls. Fortunately, the larger the number of bets you account for (that's the crucial point), the more reliable martingale becomes
962  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Pun & Fun Thread on: July 13, 2020, 04:58:09 PM


Life is full of complications, even when you're born, there's a string attached
963  Economy / Economics / Re: The positive impact ~ on: July 13, 2020, 03:57:05 PM
Home owned businesses + Local business are flourishing, due to Quarantine import and export is definitely not working as efficiently , therefore each country is working towards making their own markets more valuable. Which inturn for the long run means a lot since most of the people are involved in home owned businesses which was ignored previously.
In the case of home owned businesses, I can’t really tell if they are flourishing in my country, maybe because I have not looked into that. But I have seen a few home owned businesses that have died off during this pandemic because they were not able to carry on with the bad situation

These businesses are extremely vulnerable on their own, even without the coronavirus pandemics

They are balancing on break-even most of the time, and they are the first to die if something goes wrong. Unlike international corporations, they can't relocate, they can't easily get loans from banks, they typically don't have spare money, they don't enjoy the benefits of mass production etc, and for them laying off people most certainly means closing doors. Indeed, there are exceptions and certain areas in which local businesses may gain something from the current situation (e.g. delivery), but overall they are suffering most. They are just too specialized (like dinosaurs), and this is a pronounced disadvantage in times like these
964  Economy / Economics / Re: Fiat is a Digital currency without Value on: July 13, 2020, 11:55:06 AM
There's a value if people are using it. In the end people are the ones who give value, we create supply and demand. Now you can control the supply or the demand, depending on your position, and governments have a strong position! Depending on the country and how strong position it holds, it can manipulate with the prices on certain markets

Money as such has only transactional utility

All other value comes from the goods and services which can be bought with it. In simpler terms, it is not money that people value but the benefits they can acquire through it. If you couldn't buy anything with it, it would instantly lose all its value, specifically as a means of exchange or payment. If we are talking about fiat money, that would mark its demise. In case of hard currencies (e.g. gold), it would turn back into a commodity that propped up its value
965  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: July 13, 2020, 09:07:21 AM
Is KYC now required for pure crypto accounts/transactions, especially withdrawals? Or is it still only forced upon you once you want a bank transfer?

No, it is not required

Just checked Litecoin withdrawals and nothing KYC-related came up. Actually withdrew some EOS a week or so ago, no questions had been asked. Usually, Bitfinex warns about introducing such features beforehand via email (e.g. when they made 2FA mandatory), and I didn't see anything to that effect recently, either
966  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - $500 Daily Race! 30% Rakeback! DICE with the best autobet mode on: July 12, 2020, 07:16:02 PM
If you want to keep making money, even if it takes months or years, you will eventually reach that much wagering and you will hit that big loss in a row

Martingale is definitely a losing strategy on an infinitely long timescale

But as soon and as long as we are talking about finite timeframes, you can set your variables in such a way that your chances of busting will be in single digits for that timeframe. You would say that the profits would be tiny as well, and I would agree with you but for one thing, which is outliers. So you can decrease your bust threshold even further, and then roll patiently until you hit an outlier. And how is that not beating the house edge? Even if your profits are small, they are still profits, right? Set your bust streak to 100 rolls on a 50% win chance, and there you are
967  Economy / Gambling discussion / The odds of seeing a series of n outcomes on: July 12, 2020, 03:26:22 PM
Let's toss some coins here

And start with tossing a coin for once only. We know that our chances are 50/50, i.e. we get either heads or tails in a series of just one toss. As simple as it gets. Let's now consider a series of two tosses, either all heads or all tails. We also know that the odds of such a series are 0.5x0.5=0.25. Seems as simple, right?

What it means is that if we toss a coin a billion times, we will see around 250 million series of at least two heads or two tails. So far so good. Let's then increase the length of a series to, say, 10 heads or tails. Now, the odds are 0.510, which is 0.0009765625, and this is where things start to get complicated

Again, if we make a billion tosses, we will see a streak that long (or longer) every 1/0.0009765625=1024 tosses on average. And here comes the interesting part. What are our chances to see this series in the first 1024 tosses? It should be evident that the chances are not 100%, i.e. we are not set to encounter such a streak in the first 1024 tosses at all

But what are the odds then? I think it is impossible to tell exactly due to the random nature of tosses. So we could simply say that the odds are 50% but only to show that there is no certainty, while any other percentage would effectively tell us something about the distribution, thereby violating our assumption about the randomness of tosses

What's your take on this?
968  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Physical Casinos Decoded : on: July 12, 2020, 02:43:34 PM
That's the main goal of casinos, to rekt the players as much as they can

Personally, I don't think this is a viable business model

Casinos are interested in a sustainable cash flow, first and foremost, and that means retaining their customers (as the poster you replied to hinted at). I don't think you are going to come back after having been rekt. Therefore, casinos are not in fact interested in you losing all your money. Instead, they are interested in you receiving satisfaction in exchange for your precious shekels, as any other legit business out there
969  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we rely on Bitcoin and cryptocurrency? on: July 12, 2020, 10:15:06 AM
If you need a hedge you're going to have to use cash or precious metals (gold, silver or platinum)...

I don't think bitcoin yet has a reputation not to crash bad... Its probbay better than some stocks but not all, some places like the utilities and commodities should do well I wouldn't put all of my faith in crypto it'd be a bit like buying an airline stock...

That's the best way to do it, never put all your faith into just one asset and diversify your portfolio to different assets of different markets, for example you can use 50% of your portfolio and buy Bitcoin and Ethereum and you can invest the other 50% in valuable metals like gold or silver

For this to work out, you need to buy physical metals

But not many people are actually willing to go that far because physical metals are pretty cumbersome to buy and store (not even speaking of the hefty premiums you would have to pay). If you are investing in paper gold (under whatever name), you are not actually diversifying your portfolio as a way to mitigate economic risks since you are still vulnerable to a systemic collapse (read, all paper will burn)

That way if gold crashes for example you have still crypto to make up for the possible loss, but keep in mind that crypto and gold/silver tend to follow each other sometimes so it's not 100% safe strategy but it's definitely better than just investing all in one asset

Gold is unlikely to crash much and for long. But if that, nevertheless, happens (without any viable reason), it will be a good day to buy hard
970  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - $500 Daily Race! 30% Rakeback! DICE with the best autobet mode on: July 12, 2020, 08:06:42 AM

But let me guess, you haven't seen it even once. So what makes you think you can easily see them? Did you check the odds? If you didn't, I did. The exact odds are 0.0000002384185791. Put in more layman terms, you need to roll around 4 million times to have a 50% chance of seeing that long streak. With 30 losses in a row you would have to roll a billion times. To keep things in perspective, if you roll nonstop 1 roll a second 24/7, it will take you 30 years to get there

I seen 23 reds 2 times for last 3 months.  And if you ask players in chat of some dice they can tell you about higher, 26, 30

On exactly what win chance?

I've seen a few losing streaks over 30 losses on a ~40% win chance, and it didn't kill me because I was ready for them. Moreover, I in fact waited for them since it is through them that I profited handsomely. Anyway, the odds of seeing 23 consecutive losses with a 50% win chance are given above. So if you were able to make around 100M rolls within 3 months in a real casino (it's hard but possible), this is what you should reasonably have expected

Martingale is not-working strat

Indeed, it is going to be a non-working strategy if you use it mindlessly and without accounting for the above. But that's the same with any complex strategy in any area
971  Economy / Economics / Re: Biggest winner during COVID? on: July 11, 2020, 09:20:53 PM
We are aware that most of the countries economy has gone for a toss and many are at the brink of collapse but who has been the biggest winner of this pandemic?

"Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked"

As Warren Buffett would say, we will see who will come out on top of all that. Nation-wise, it is hard to tell (read, too early as it will take years for the effects to fully develop and clearly reveal themselves). Industry-wise, information technologies and anything related seem to be the primary benefactors of the virus. Yep, that sounds a little ambiguous, and that's the irony of it (like going viral ain't what it used to be)
972  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Pun & Fun Thread on: July 11, 2020, 06:57:41 PM


Dear Autocorrect! No one uses the word "ducking", absolutely no one
973  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - $500 Daily Race! 30% Rakeback! DICE with the best autobet mode on: July 11, 2020, 03:32:58 PM
But let me guess, you haven't seen it even once. So what makes you think you can easily see them? Did you check the odds? If you didn't, I did. The exact odds are 0.0000002384185791. Put in more layman terms, you need to roll around 4 million times to have a 50% chance of seeing that long streak. With 30 losses in a row you would have to roll a billion times. To keep things in perspective, if you roll nonstop 1 roll a second 24/7, it will take you 30 years to get there

I myself have played dice many times on 1% house edge but never got 23 losses in a row. 
Can you give this calculation if the house edge is 1% which if offered by most of the casino's

The math is actually quite simple

When you bet on a 50% win chance, your chance to lose in a series of one roll is, well, 50%, and on average you will have to make 2 rolls to get there (which is 1/0.5). Then the odds of losing two times in a row are 0.5x0.5=0.25, so on average you will have to make 4 rolls to encounter it (1/0.25). Consequently, the odds of losing 23 times in a row are 0.523, which is 0.000000119209289 (it seems that I have missed one roll in my previous post). And it will take you 1/0.000000119209289=8388608 rolls on average to see so long a losing streak. The house edge itself doesn't change the odds as such, but what it does change is the amount you win or lose, i.e. on a 50% win chance you will lose more and win less than if it were a totally fair play (i.e. real 50/50)
974  Local / Трейдеры / Re: доллар соскамят on: July 11, 2020, 01:32:34 PM
Сколько лет кричат уже одно и тоже, доллар рухнет, доллар рухнет. Пока нет такой силы чтобы доллар рухнул, скорее всего будет все по другому, все валюты как развитых, так и развивающих стран рухнут, а доллар будет живее всех живых. Думаю скоро мы это увидим, даже на примере рубля

На примере рубля как раз и увидим

Вся эта спешка с поправками "в Конституцию" для того, скорее всего, и затеяна, чтобы под шумок обвалить рубль раза в два-три в ближайшие месяцы, в крайнем случае, год. Вопрос в другом, а именно начальницу ЦБ "уволят" до или после. Полагаю, что козой отпущения она сама быть не захочет, поэтому условным сигналом к началу девальвации можно будет считать ее "переход" на другую работу
975  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Why does Bitfinex ignore Dogecoin? on: July 11, 2020, 11:30:29 AM
It's time to update the thread!

As they say, never say never, and the breaking news is that Bitfinex has finally added Dogecoin to the list of supported coins you can trade on the exchange. So far you can only take a long position in this coin (read, no margin trading is currently available) but, as I hope, it won't take long till you will be able to short Dogecoin as well. And then it will likely become a new vehicle for ruthless and relentless speculation worth looking into (if you are interested in that)
976  Local / Трейдеры / Re: доллар соскамят on: July 11, 2020, 10:18:51 AM
Вот сколько живу столько и слышу о том, что доллар скоро рухнет, а вселд за ним и сша, но что то он все сильнее и сильнее. Это кстати очень похоже на биток, его тоже постоянно хоронят

Хоронили тещу, порвали два баяна

Или пока толстый сохнет, худой сдохнет. Доллару не нужно быть сильным, ему достаточно лишь быть сильнее других. Ну это как в том анекдоте про двух туристов и голодного медведя -- должен остаться только один турист. Пока экономика Штатов будет самой мощной мире, ничего доллару не грозит. Если, конечно, в американском Конгрессе не сидят экономические самоубийцы. Но за последние 200 лет там таких не было, так откуда, спрашивается, им взяться сейчас? Трамп не в счет, хотя и он тоже на самоубийцу не похож
Так я о том и говорю пока у США первая экономика мира, сильнейшая армия и огромное политическое влияние по всему миру, разговоры о крахе доллара это просто ниочем. Вот еслиб все их козыри сошли на нет вот тогда уже можно говорить о крахе доллара

Я про последовательность отдельных фаз процесса

В утверждении о том, что "доллар скоро рухнет, а вслед за ним и Америка", телегу ставят впереди лошади и путают причину со следствием. Другими словами, доллар рухнет только после того, как Штаты начнут разваливаться или придут в экономический упадок, ибо это следствие развала, а не его причина
977  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - $500 Daily Race! 30% Rakeback! DICE with the best autobet mode on: July 11, 2020, 08:26:45 AM
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In the long term we are talking about house edge and as long as there is a house edge the gambler is doomed to lose money. You can make a quick buck, and maybe you could make a quick buck back to back, that seems like the only possible method to make money honestly.

In a sense it is clear that no matter which casino you got to and which strategy you use as a gambler or an occasional player you're deemed indeed to lose at some point even if you probabilistically happen to win at first. The reason for this is simple - house edge.

Of course, this doesn't apply to casinos whose algorithm can be exploited and manipulated such that you always win even after considering the house edge.

what is that  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  a joke?  or you never played dices at all?
Even with 0% house edge you will lose with martingale, on 2x payout can be 23 red easily

How many times have you seen 23 losses in a row on a 2x payout yourself?

But let me guess, you haven't seen it even once. So what makes you think you can easily see them? Did you check the odds? If you didn't, I did. The exact odds are 0.0000002384185791. Put in more layman terms, you need to roll around 4 million times to have a 50% chance of seeing that long streak. With 30 losses in a row you would have to roll a billion times. To keep things in perspective, if you roll nonstop 1 roll a second 24/7, it will take you 30 years to get there
978  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there any successful and relatively new casinos? on: July 10, 2020, 07:23:02 PM
The lack of promotions primarily indicates that the project is saving money.
Then the question arises whether the project will be able to pay rewards bonuses, and what happens if they don’t have enough volumes for payments on deposits.
Given that crypto casinos are not regulated, it is not difficult to imagine the classic situation when the conclusions are closed for an indefinite period, and various checks are introduced.
Each marketing step would really have lots of consideration first before on making it happen.They wont really just throw away up some promotion if they do know that they are attaining sufficient revenue.

Its just suicide for them to do so on launching out something that they arent capable to do so thats why we do see that new sites arent really that much active when it comes to bonuses and perks

I don't think this is how most small businesses operate in general

Especially when we are talking about startups. Put simply, it does in fact border on financial suicide in many cases, but the point is you don't know that for certain in advance. Moreover, you can't even know that beforehand at all. But seriously, how do you picture that in your mind's eye? I refer to "having lots of consideration first before on making it happen". What considerations do you think of? What is there to consider if most of the factors that you should base your considerations on are unknown to you and can only be learned in the process, i.e. any valid considerations can only be made in hindsight when they are already less than useless for the business in question?

All right. Most startups do not know exactly which paths will be most effective and will give the greatest result. You can find out only by doing something, checking one of the ways

Well, it is not actually just about startups and small businesses

Any business, be it huge or small, global or local, exists in essentially the same conditions. The difference is that international corporations can plan further ahead, i.e. their planning horizon can be much longer due to their sheer size and the amount of factors they have under their control or bear upon. But they are still not omnipotent or invincible. History is littered with the remnants of many now-defunct business giants (e.g. Pan Am Airways)

Nevertheless, you have to make a choice, and often too careful steps lead to the death of the project

That's the point. Doing nothing is generally a losing strategy overall versus doing something. Even if you do something wrong and it doesn't kill you in the process, in most cases, given the power of introspection and reflection, you will see where you failed and can then change your ways to avoid the failure next time

This is called experience
979  Local / Трейдеры / Re: доллар соскамят on: July 10, 2020, 06:42:34 PM
Вот сколько живу столько и слышу о том, что доллар скоро рухнет, а вселд за ним и сша, но что то он все сильнее и сильнее. Это кстати очень похоже на биток, его тоже постоянно хоронят

Хоронили тещу, порвали два баяна

Или пока толстый сохнет, худой сдохнет. Доллару не нужно быть сильным, ему достаточно лишь быть сильнее других. Ну это как в том анекдоте про двух туристов и голодного медведя -- должен остаться только один турист. Пока экономика Штатов будет самой мощной мире, ничего доллару не грозит. Если, конечно, в американском Конгрессе не сидят экономические самоубийцы. Но за последние 200 лет там таких не было, так откуда, спрашивается, им взяться сейчас? Трамп не в счет, хотя и он тоже на самоубийцу не похож
980  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Pun & Fun Thread on: July 10, 2020, 06:03:15 PM


My great grandfather was on Titanic, and as far as I know, he still is
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