I wish you all luck with your endeavors, I am going back to the real game and that is BTC, I hope we all can one day look back at this and wish that we did not cause the damage to all Crypto that we have done over the last few months.
This vendetta against GAW and Josh has made the whole crypto community look like a bunch of fucking amateurs. Only 6 months ago Crypto was getting excellent main stream press and was looking good. However the in fighting, scams, and crap coins have now made it look like a joke.
Asic mining has killed scrypt, it may even kill BTC, coins like Dark Coin and Black Coin will not take off due to their names.
I will not be posting here or on hash talk as all the negativity has shown me that the crypto community will keep fighting each other and keep calling all new coins or innovation a scam.
The people on this forum and others have done more harm to Crypto than good, so be proud of yourselves as you may find that you are the ones stopping crypto getting wide spread acceptance, it is only a matter of time before the Banks and Governments of the world centralize the technology and all Crypto will go down in the history books as a fad.
So pat yourself on the shoulder and say well done as you are the guy's who supposedly want to see Crypto be a success have actually made it look like a fools paradise.
You all need to rethink what your agenda is here and start thinking about the bigger picture, so step away from your key boards and start promoting Crypto instead of tearing it down.
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The turd is still getting flushed check out Cryptsy, will break .01 tonight
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well as I have no empty stakers cant try to find out but @tankjr on HT think it was him sold me some,best idea is ask on HT
I think the only way to get rid of them is if you held onto the code when you fist bought it and didn't activate it still have the original code, you can sell off the code otherwise I'm pretty sure theres no way to revert an active staker. I dont have a staker so I can't test it but I'm pretty sure I'm right.
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Can we please do something to slow this train derailment for the next 160-ish days?
I have staked coins that I need to cash out, and need the value of XPY to stay about the same.
puwaha - looks like your keeping up on HT - How do I sell a Staker- I have 1 that I would like to get rid of. If at all possible You can't sell a staker. You'd have to sell your whole account. I'm going to opine that you will eventually be able to sell a staker that is empty of paycoins on the market, but only if it's empty. If it has a paycoin in it... it will not be within this first 180 day staking round. They will wait until the next round for that. It's too messy. I'm sure a lot of people are in this guys situation. Seems to me the time to get out was before Paycoin went live and the Zens were still worth 11 dollars on the market. You're locked in now because of forced 2fa. Or as Captain Hindsight would put it.
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(because my chief responsibility is to perform my duties as a CEO), I look forward to our debate. What duties does he have? He moderates and bans people from hashtalk all day and answer shill questions. I suppose he has to entertain GAWmanda.
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Remember when they did the cheesy video of painting on the floor or something to that effect around the time of that Q&A chat or whenever I guess... Not sure what that was all about but it looked like in that same data center.... maybe I am confused lol
Yeah it was re-uploaded here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZpZdeJNSV0
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Its not a poor copy and paste, its just how the back of the vest and most vests are. Black back on the vest. No idea I have no opinion on it either way, I was searching for the original pic and just happened on that thought it was funny.
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Just tried xpy never tried btc but think its both
well if its btc too then thats a big deal it could mean its collapsed i'm pretty sure there's a .001 fee on the transfers and it doesn't automatically deduct it you have to do the math
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Zencloud blocking all withdrawls one way of making sure you dont cash out
Including BTC or just XPY?
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See my post 20 minutes ago where Josh clearly stated that out of the 12,000,000 block zero coins, 60% went to customers (for hashpoints) and 40% to investors...
Is that plausible? That would be 7.2 million XPY to customers for hashpoints. They were talking about 400 hashpoints per XPY. So that's 2.88 billion-with-a-b hashpoints! http://gawminers.eu/news/hashcoin-ico-customer-round-qa-transcript-yesterday-evening/[By the way, there's some good stuff in that link. I'll come back to it.] I first heard about XPY when it was Hashcoin, and it sounded like not just a scam but an audacious scam so I kept an eye on it. But I don't know a lot of the GAW details. What I remember about hashpoints is people on HT talking about picking up only small numbers of Hashcoins that way. The big investors boasted about having tens of thousands of hashpoints. In this thread: https://hashtalk.org/topic/15040/how-much-could-your-hp-be-worth-after-the-ico/8(comment number eight, upvoted by GAWCEO) someone estimates that the "champions" have around 4 million hash points total. (He's arguing that because there are so few hashpoints, then based on the projected market cap each hashpoint should be worth closer to a dollar than a penny.) So is it even plausible that 60% of the premine went to customers for hashpoints? From when it was still code named Hashcoin. The clipping is from an old but interesting article (more of a warning). https://ounce.me/blog/is-gaw-miners-on-the-brink-of-going-full-ponzi/
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I got a perfectly logical explanation for the blockchain activity. I doubt anyone will believe me but here goes.
They receive fiat from the CC transactions and it takes time to transfer fiat to any exchange so for speedy transactions they use their own reserve then transfer the fiat to an exchange to buy BTC and buy XPY with BTC. The XPY/USD market is almost non existent so it makes no sense to buy XPY with fiat.
This may be far fetched but that is the way I would set it up.
Originally they said they didn't even premine. https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/532173907718332417So you'll have to forgive the skepticism. Seems to me (in the spirit of their past business ethics so far) they're just getting two birds stoned at once. Delivering the illusion of speedy transactions while dumping premined caca coins on the customers. Doing it your way who's to say they don't send the transaction off to the bots and end up getting a better rate than what they gave the premine to you for. Do they pass that on to you or does it go in Kim Josh Uns coffers leaves it open to all kinds of manipulation with the odds in favor of the house.
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@redacted answered my question on premine sales on HT
"You can tell they are NOT the premine, since those coins sit in prime controllers, and those prime controller addresses are are known and shown on the richlist. Believe me, there would be lots out outcry if any of the coins in prime controllers started moving out of thier wallet addresses and showing up for sale on exchanges."
well then where are the 1000S of coins sold on paybase coming from???
one guy alone posted a buy from paybase of about 488,000 xpy
This again should be trivially simple. There has to be a true believer somewhere who bought a coin on paybase. Follow that coin back to where it was created. This coin isn't very old, it shouldn't be too hard. Not a true believer, just testing the CC to see who the processor was. If you want to spend some time tracing it, here are two purchases I made: TXN: 5c3c2efa1cd2abb0e384ed5ce15ef041903d992fe94d13531186f6185f93dfaf Address: PVGy8a4Ai2jUFVnWg4sowxzKNM2LdpCwmr Amt: 25.698324 XPY TXN: a80127b3756b88c4f9e3fb594fd99d7f0c3f7d8598b3e42a2e2bf43404c4cb18 Address: PVGy8a4Ai2jUFVnWg4sowxzKNM2LdpCwmr Amt: 27.090858 XPY Important note, the second purchase I just made now. What was different from the first: 1) I was asked to confirm my address (which was prefilled) 2) I was asked to confirm my credit card (including CCV) was was all prefilled 3) I was asked to type in my phone number. I INTENTIALLY put in a bogus phone number 4) The transaction was processed (again with a 10% fee), but the XPY was deposited immediately to my account (no hour wait this time). 5) The charge on my CC appears as the same "ONLINE SAN FRANSCISCO", which I believe is Stripe (so looks like CoinFire might be correct, that they just changed the merchant account, but continue to use Stripe for purchases). Went ahead and just did a transaction excavation on: TXN: a80127b3756b88c4f9e3fb594fd99d7f0c3f7d8598b3e42a2e2bf43404c4cb18 Starting from the premine block: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?1.htmTo the premine block movements out to a 1,750,000 block: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?167.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?186.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?190.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?194.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?9616.htmFrom that 1,750,000 premine dispersal to a 50,000 block: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?83905.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?139249.htmFrom that 50,000 block through more dispersal to an almost 25,000 block: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?139351.htmttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?139867.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141151.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141698.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141698.htmFrom that ~25,000 block through yet more dispersal to two approx equal blocks just over 12,000: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141732.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141761.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141767.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141796.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141858.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141932.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?142048.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?142177.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?142362.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?142787.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?143015.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?143187.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?143275.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?143377.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?144745.htmFrom one of those ~12,000 blocks to two approx equal blocks just over 6,000: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?146064.htmFrom one of those ~6,000 blocks to two approx equal blocks just over 3,000: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?147619.htmFrom one of those ~3,000 blocks through even more dispersal to two approx equal blocks just under 1,500: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?148159.htm GAW sending coins to Bittrex? https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?149033.htm Bittrex again? https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?151682.htmFrom one of those ~1,500 blocks to two approx equal blocks of around 740: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?155845.htmFrom one of those ~740 blocks to two approx equal blocks of around 370: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?160085.htmFrom one of those ~370 blocks to two approx equal blocks of 185: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?164542.htmFrom one of those ~185 blocks to your transaction: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?a80127b3756b88c4f9e3fb594fd99d7f0c3f7d8598b3e42a2e2bf43404c4cb18.htmAnd... that's how we prove they're using pre-mined coins to fulfill their PayBase orders... The blockchain never lies. Damn this is hot stuff! People need to understand there's a reason they premined and it wasn't to just sit on them. Hope this gets lots of attention.
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For entertainment purposes only. There is no concrete evidence that Kim Josh Un is in fact the dear leader of the XPY army.
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Stop the presses! I did some quick calculations concerning creating a scam coin to pay lawyers to track down coin scammers: According to my calculations, this could cause a rip in the Space/Time Hyper Flex continuum and suck the entire Crypto Universe into it!!
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Never obsolete always profitable.
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I would suggest that if you want cheap XPY buy now, some whales and large customers have put buy walls in, I follow the money and so should U
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