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961  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinobit - no house edge, 100% payout on: December 10, 2012, 11:08:40 AM
The amount of flame/fail/anger/promoting/smart-asses in this thread is too damn high!



Couldn't have said it better myself and yes there will be zero house edge blackjack and roulette, problem is we are losing money so far, hope that will change when poker/bitcoin exchange will be implemented.
962  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinobit - no house edge, 100% payout on: December 09, 2012, 08:58:58 PM
since they know the secret list ahead of time.
You are wrong again! It is impossible for the SatoshiDice to know a Transaction ID ahead of time.

Secret list! List! Not the transaction ID.

I swear it's like people keep repeating what others said instead of thinking for themselves.

This is troubling.  I'm not much of a gambler, and haven't ever played SatoshiDice, but someone bringing a casino to the Bitcoin community is really not doing their homework to not understand how SatoshiDice's hashing works and why knowing the secret list ahead of time isn't a problem if it's being hashed with the transaction ID.  The algorithm is too simple for someone willing to build a casino website to not understand, and the overconfident attitude is highly misplaced.  Sorry, but I must apply my stamp of disapproval to this one.

Just to make it clear, I have no interest in anything gambling-related whatsoever.

Just to make things clear, I am just an administrator, not the owner or the support team or the programmers. I think you tend to get them mixed. If knowing the list ahead of time wouldn't be a problem it would be public wouldn't it?
963  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinobit - no house edge, 100% payout on: December 09, 2012, 08:13:30 PM
Lol at all the people bashing this so hard.  Take the stick out of your ass and move on.

Competitors trying to bash us I guess.

No house edge, 100% payout!

Nobody asked the real question, which I'm sure is the basis for all the skepticism. If your payout is 100%, how do you make money? How do you even pay the transaction fees?

Currently we do not make money, the transactions fees are paid on behalf of the users. (Thus no house fees because the transactions fees are paid to the house)

In the near future we will have a third party operating as an exchange, this is where the profits will come from.
964  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinobit - no house edge, 100% payout on: December 09, 2012, 07:56:58 PM
just a note, if you're veryfying the password length, I can assume that you're storing the passwords in the database as plain text.

Man, it's a high security flaw, passwords in a database MUST be hashed and salted. I'malmost sure you don't know what I'm talking about, so take a time to learn more about it, and you should start reading here:

http://blog.moertel.com/articles/2006/12/15/never-store-passwords-in-a-database

and also see this site:

http://plaintextoffenders.com/about/

Are you kidding me?
965  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinobit - no house edge, 100% payout on: December 09, 2012, 07:22:12 PM
I'm also a little confused.  Why do I need to register and provide an email address if you're

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the number 1 online anonymous casino site and online poker in the world.

?

The game that appeared when I finally got logged in seems to be a little like satoshidice.  I send coins to an address to bet, and you return winnings to the address I sent from.  Why even ask for registration if that's the game?

Finally, is this how the game is meant to look?



It looks like there might be some small text in those green boxes.  If you chose a colour that contrasted with the green I might be able to tell for sure.

The game on the main page doesn't require registration, you can send an amount and receive back at your address. The captcha is meant to be that way and the email is for opening support tickets on the site, if we value our customers anonimity it doesn't mean that we never contact our players. It isn't at all like anything, it gives you a sense of community and brings people together, a whole new experience.

And we do not have support for the color blind at the moment sorry  Wink
966  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinobit - no house edge, 100% payout on: December 09, 2012, 03:53:58 PM
I have a gambling problem and i wouldnt touch this site with my worst enemy's bitcoins

Maybe currently you wouldn't but soon we will have commercial quality Texas Holdem, also no house fees  Wink

(Not that I encourage your terrible gambling addiction in any way)
967  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinobit - no house edge, 100% payout on: December 09, 2012, 02:59:59 PM

No house edge, 100% payout!

Key ideologies:
  • No house edge, all games are free!
  • No spamming the bitcoin network! We pay generous transaction fees!
  • High quality HTML5 games.
  • Anonymity is always a priority, we never save more information about you than what is necessary to operate, after which we securely dispose of it.
  • Mental games that don't use a TTP are always better than ones that do.
  • Responsible gambling.

HTML5, multi-platform poker is soon to be added, deadline is somewhere in the near 2 week. Casinobit will be the first Casino to use such technology.
Try http://www.casinobit.net you won't be disappointed!

Drop dead, you and all other gamble providers.

Hi there you must own stocks of one of our competitors and no, we will never go away.

The concept is liberating not just to the bitcoin community but to the gambling community as a whole.
968  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinobit - no house edge, 100% payout on: December 09, 2012, 01:22:24 PM
And I don't agree with the 3rd statement, we put more effort than 95% of casinos currently (if not all).

You may be putting in *effort* but you are not producing quality outcomes.  TradeFortress is correct, if you are even using mysql instead of mysqli you are behind the php curve by a few years.  Languages evolve for important reasons, developers don't just deprecate the interface to the single most popular amateur database for no reason.  For example, you must not be using Prepared Statements... that's a structural issue, not a "beta" issue.

It is irrelevant, don't tell us how to handle our business please, we have had numerous attacks on our services, the last one happened ~10 minutes ago, never was there any data or bitcoin loss.

All the bugs reported by dooglus have been fixed.
969  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinobit - no house edge, 100% payout on: December 09, 2012, 11:04:21 AM
Are you serious? This is *horribad* programming.

1. You are using mysql, NOT mysqli. Mysql is deprecated.

2. You don't buffer headers, which is why you get the second error.

3. The architecture of your code is pretty bad. Why's that important? Because it shows you are not putting effort in development.

4. YOU ARE NOT SUPPRESSING ERRORS.

Watch out for pen testers.

This is why it is a beta of sorts, try to hack it, I dare every player.

And I don't agree with the 3rd statement, we put more effort than 95% of casinos currently (if not all).
970  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinobit - no house edge, 100% payout on: December 08, 2012, 10:01:29 PM
Secret list! List! Not the transaction ID.

I swear it's like people keep repeating what others said instead of thinking for themselves.
You are writing bullshit! Really!

Quote
LUCKY NUMBER
The lucky number used to determine the winner of games is simple. It is simply the first bytes of hmac_sha512(secert,txid). That would be the secret string as the key and the transaction ID of your bet transaction as the data.
http://www.satoshidice.com -> Verification

Quote from: Verification
SECRETS
So that is all well and good for the hashes but those are just hashes, not the actual secrets used. After a day has been over for at least 24 hours the system will release the secret used. Then you can verify that the hash of the secret matches the published hash in the hash file. This demonstrates that the system used the secret it promised it would use. A list of secrets for previous days can be found here: secret list

This thread isn't about putting down any other website, it's about putting ours up, but it is possible for them to cheat you. You can open a different thread and discuss it there, please stop hijacking threads and backlinking from them.
971  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinobit - no house edge, 100% payout on: December 08, 2012, 09:51:46 PM
since they know the secret list ahead of time.
You are wrong again! It is impossible for the SatoshiDice to know a Transaction ID ahead of time.

Secret list! List! Not the transaction ID.

I swear it's like people keep repeating what others said instead of thinking for themselves.
972  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinobit - no house edge, 100% payout on: December 08, 2012, 09:42:37 PM
I'm confused, why don't you just determine the games ahead of time and release the proof that you didn't cheat?  You are asking players to trust you because way after the fact you can estimate whether you had an edge or not.  That's kind of shaky evidence when you could just as easily release the order of your outcomes and we can both determine that you didn't change any outcomes and that there is no house edge.

To be completely frank, I am skeptical of a house that claims to have no edge.  Players don't care if a casino takes 1% (or whatever percent).

At the moment I doubt there is a casino in the world which is provably fair let alone one which accepts bitcoins anyone who claims otherwise is throwing around statements which are way too strong for him to comprehend and the 1% might not seem like a lot but in the long run it's the 1% that gets you.

Thus any casino which claims to be fair/provably fair while having a TTP are liars
I will believe your words if you are able to describe in details how to cheat for the SatoshiDICE operator.
Contrary, it is very easy to cheat for you as I have wrote in my previous post.

It is possible for them to rob their investors by sending selective transactions to themselves since they know the secret list ahead of time. The casinos you keep mentioning don't even have contact information when in our casino you can always open a ticket and someone will get back to you, even if you ignore the fact that they are detrimental to the bitcoin community.

I will much rather think how we can really prove that we are trustworthy instead of proving that others aren't, we are in the creative business, not the competitive one.
973  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinobit - no house edge, 100% payout on: December 08, 2012, 09:07:09 PM
Please, be honest... Wink You offer to play against the house and winner is being determined by your own random number generator. Therefore you can change outcome of any game or to know the results before it completes, so your house edge can magically climb from 0 to 100%.

Players, be cautious!
Is there some verifiability in your games?  Do you release information so that we can prove wins and losses?

Currently the game on the main page is a beta of sorts, with bitcoin being a public P2P network you can estimate the house edge yourself plus there isn't any casino which is more secure. It has come to our attention that some casinos are unauthentic:

Haystack answer
A haystack answer (or statement) is a volume of false or irrelevant information, possibly containing a true fact (the needle in the "haystack"). Even if the truth is included, it is difficult or impossible to detect and identify. In this way, the legendary Leprechaun hid his pot of gold,[4] even after it had been found.

Lying by omission
Also known as a continuing misrepresentation, a lie by omission occurs when an important fact is left out in order to foster a misconception. Lying by omission includes failures to correct pre-existing misconceptions. When the seller of a car declares it has been serviced regularly but does not tell that a fault was reported at the last service, the seller lies by omission.

Some casinos claim to be fair and some even claim to be provably fair when in reality they lie somewhere between the two definitions above since:
A) Nothing stops a casino from disconnecting from a player in the event of the player receiving a hand which is likely to win.
B) Nothing stops the casino from bruteforcing different keys incase a TTP is used to get an outcome which is the most profitable for the TTP.
C) Even such casinos which are considered 100% secure and use the last transaction or the hash of all transactions as means of determing a winning hand/number/player can still bruteforce the outcome by sending small amounts to themselves.
D) People that own shares of any competing casino don't state that clearly in their posts when bashing us to not make their personal gain obvious which is unethical in the real business world.
Thus any casino which claims to be fair/provably fair while having a TTP are liars at best and we are at least as trustworthy as them if not more since we are more serious regarding the matter and ready to invest a lot more funds into our casino.

Since having no TTP at all seems to be the only real answer to having a truly verifiable casino this has been our milestone and will always continue to be, until we get enough interest/investors/funds to support such a project.
974  Economy / Gambling / Casinobit - no house edge, 100% payout on: December 08, 2012, 06:07:19 PM

No house edge, 100% payout!

Key ideologies:
  • No house edge, all games are free!
  • No spamming the bitcoin network! We pay generous transaction fees!
  • High quality HTML5 games.
  • Anonymity is always a priority, we never save more information about you than what is necessary to operate, after which we securely dispose of it.
  • Mental games that don't use a TTP are always better than ones that do.
  • Responsible gambling.

HTML5, multi-platform poker is soon to be added, deadline is somewhere in the near 2 week. Casinobit will be the first Casino to use such technology.
Try http://www.casinobit.net you won't be disappointed!
975  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: November 23, 2012, 06:27:05 PM
This account was made on the behalf of Casinobit.net, so we are definitely not newbies!  Tongue
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