Okay, then how do you think of the [current] policy of interviewing and assessing parents before they are allowed to take a child into adoption? Reasonable or not? The policy is reasonable, it would be stupid not to evaluate the home you give a child. The criteria, on the other hand, often leave quite a bit to be desired. So what kind of an organization should be in charge of such a thing? A government institution paid by taxes or some sort of an orphanage funded by voluntary donations? |
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EDIT: I remove some adjectives and decide it's a better idea that if any couple wants to adopt a child, they have to somehow prove that they can do things right, at least when it's somehow competitive, like more than one couple are looking to adopt a child. Trust me, there is, if anything, an over supply of children needing adoption. Look, the simple fact is that the single most important thing for a child growing up is a loving home environment. Two dads, two moms, four moms and three dads, IDGAF. As long as the child is cared for, loved, and not abused, they will grow up to a well-adjusted adult. And in those environments, probably a lot more tolerant than average, except, perhaps, of bullshit. Okay, then how do you think of the currency policy of interviewing and assessing parents before they are allowed to take a child into adoption? Reasonable or not? |
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You cannot really "feel" it, because you don't grow their parts, and there are many things which can only be learned with experience, like the difference between science and engineering. And this is, after all, only the most shallow of things, have you ever wondered why you can't figure out what a woman has been thinking all day?
Fun fact: Gay men's brains are actually structured similar to a woman's. There's reason to believe a gay man might make a much better mother than a straight man in the same situation. And certainly you wouldn't support taking away a single straight man's daughter, simply because he doesn't have a wife? No, absolutely not, I just think since it's uncharted territory, we need to tread on it very very carefully. One way to do it, that I can come up with, is to set up a qualification program, so if a couple want to somehow bring up a boy/girl, they need to learn things and pass all the tests until their instructors are satisfied, otherwise they will need to find their daughter a "mother substitute" somehow when she is old enough. Yeah I know it sounds a bit silly, but the atmosphere here is that people sometimes are really relaxed, and sometimes full of hostility, so...whatever. EDIT: I remove some adjectives and decide it's a better idea that if any couple wants to adopt a child, they have to somehow prove that they can do things right, at least when it's somehow competitive, like more than one couple are looking to adopt a child. PS: I think at least in the U.S, the law somehow favors the mother's right to take custody of her children, right? |
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Are gay men somehow incapable of reading instructions?
FFS, man, I know how to put in a tampon, and that's just 'cuz I got bored one day in the bathroom, and the only reading material available was the tampon box. Incidentally, that's also how I learned about TSS.
Haha... Hi, where did I say this is a strict "no-go"? Do you like to go all scientific on one hand, and make a lot of assumptions about others on the other hand? Re-read what I really said, OK?
Besides, it's important to point out, that very lengthy and elaborated assessment is already required in nearly any nation for a couple to adopt any children, whatever your approach is, it has to be a very complicated approach, as human emotion is a very complicated thing. But I guess for most of the geeks it's not that easy to understand.
Relax, don't take it too seriously. I exist in a bubble of sarcasm, which I am told is the lowest form of wit, so I'm probably very stupid. I don't take anything I say too seriously, and neither should you.  BTW, I count two assumptions in your statement about me: That I didn't understand what you wrote; and, that I am a geek (based on your personal assessment that I went "all scientific" I presume). You then used circular logic to conclude that it is because I am a geek that I could not understand what you said, which I believe is probably a fallacy, but I'm not really all that quick, so I'll let the rest of the crowd judge that one. No you misunderstood, these are two separate things I somehow happened to put together(I said "Besides" and I didn't even straightly meant you are a geek), may confuse you a bit, I am sorry. |
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You may ask your wife/mother.  No, I'm honestly curious what things you think only a woman can teach another woman. I am not in a position to answer(I said "maybe") in detail because I am not one. But I doubt all those industries catering their special needs are created for no reason.  Are gay men somehow incapable of reading instructions? FFS, man, I know how to put in a tampon, and that's just 'cuz I got bored one day in the bathroom, and the only reading material available was the tampon box. Incidentally, that's also how I learned about TSS. You cannot really "feel" it, because you don't grow their parts, and there are many things which can only be learned with experience, like the difference between science and engineering. And this is, after all, only the most shallow of things, have you ever wondered why you can't figure out what a woman has been thinking all day? |
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What is the bad policy? Government recognition and protection of marriage contracts?
What does the government care of your personal life? For that matter, why should it? And why should Joe from Arkansas even have a say in whether or not two people he's never met can get married? They shouldn't. And they should recognize a legal contract for anyone who wishes to sign into one. An issue that is a bit complicated, is the couple's adoption of a child, the child cannot make a decision for himself/herself. Can any child pick their parents? At the very least, I would think that parents that picked their kids, no matter what (or who) they do in the bedroom, would be better off than the average, especially these days. The problem is, let's say a gay couple adopting a girl, there would be some problems as there are definitely a few things no one but a mother can teach her daughter, so maybe the girl will need a "mother substitute" somehow. LMFAO. Come on now. Really? Ok. I'll see your perceived issue (that two caring gay parents is worse than no parents) and raise you a few more. (1) What should be done about orphans? As I pointed out above, presumably you believe they are better off remaining orphans with NO mother (in the case of a daughter). (2) Mother dies in childbirth, daughter survives. Single father. What do? Set a legal maximum time before remarriage? (Forced marriage, why not... so long as the government knows best, just about anything can be done if it's "for the children"!) (3) Two lesbians adopting a daughter. Is this okay? Two mothers to teach a daughter the things that only a mother can teach, has to be better than one! (4) Two gay men raising a son. Under the same reasoning, presumably, this is a good thing also. Still unclear what these "things" are that only those of biologically-identical sex can teach, but we're in your world, so let's run with it. (5) Corollary to #3: Two lesbians with a son. Worse? Or better? (6) Corollary to #4: Two gays with a daughter. Wait... okay, we already said that's bad, hang on. Okay. Guess that answers #5 as well, unless you're completely illogical and hypocritical...(6) Corollaries to #3 and #4, rethought: Can we enforce gender roles? Maybe two lesbians or two gays is okay, as long as one agrees to "wear the pants" and one to be he "bottom". Then the masculine ones can teach the son football and misogyny and the feminine ones can teach daughters to cook and clean, and properly use feminine hygiene products, etc. Hi, where did I say this is a strict "no-go"? Do you like to go all scientific on one hand, and make a lot of assumptions about others on the other hand? Re-read what I really said, OK? Besides, it's important to point out, that very lengthy and elaborated assessment is already required in nearly any nation for a couple to adopt any children, whatever your approach is, it has to be a very complicated approach, as human emotion is a very complicated thing. But I guess for most of the geeks it's not that easy to understand. |
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You may ask your wife/mother. No, I'm honestly curious what things you think only a woman can teach another woman. I am not in a position to answer(I said "maybe") in detail because I am not one. But I doubt all those industries catering their special needs are created for no reason. |
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What is the bad policy? Government recognition and protection of marriage contracts?
What does the government care of your personal life? For that matter, why should it? And why should Joe from Arkansas even have a say in whether or not two people he's never met can get married? They shouldn't. And they should recognize a legal contract for anyone who wishes to sign into one. An issue that is a bit complicated, is the couple's adoption of a child, the child cannot make a decision for himself/herself. Can any child pick their parents? At the very least, I would think that parents that picked their kids, no matter what (or who) they do in the bedroom, would be better off than the average, especially these days. The problem is, let's say a gay couple adopting a girl, there would be some problems as there are definitely a few things no one but a mother can teach her daughter, so maybe the girl will need a "mother substitute" somehow. Like what? You mak ask your wife/mother. It's a complex business to be a woman. |
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Chinese are going crazy buying gold. Grannies and grandpas queuing up to buy any gold they can get their hands on... necklaces etc.
Hope it lasts, I want to print off flyers for Bitcoin and sprinkle them around the gold shops. Bit of a high-risk endeavour though.
Poor gun fodders. Too bad I can't stop a few of them. im buying gold and silver as part of a diversified portfolio. everyone should have 5 to 10% of their wealth in gold and silver. Which is a given if you are from a Chinese family. |
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Chinese are going crazy buying gold. Grannies and grandpas queuing up to buy any gold they can get their hands on... necklaces etc.
Hope it lasts, I want to print off flyers for Bitcoin and sprinkle them around the gold shops. Bit of a high-risk endeavour though.
Poor gun fodders. Too bad I can't stop a few of them. |
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What is the bad policy? Government recognition and protection of marriage contracts?
What does the government care of your personal life? For that matter, why should it? And why should Joe from Arkansas even have a say in whether or not two people he's never met can get married? They shouldn't. And they should recognize a legal contract for anyone who wishes to sign into one. An issue that is a bit complicated, is the couple's adoption of a child, the child cannot make a decision for himself/herself. Can any child pick their parents? At the very least, I would think that parents that picked their kids, no matter what (or who) they do in the bedroom, would be better off than the average, especially these days. The problem is, let's say a gay couple adopting a girl, there would be some problems as there are definitely a few things no one but a mother can teach her daughter, so maybe the girl will need a "mother substitute" somehow. |
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Guess what, watching American politics actually helps me to understand the "Network effect" better.
If next time people ask me why can't someone just make a Bitcoin clone and render Bitcoin worthless, I'll lead them to think why can't someone create a political party with a similar campaign platform to Democrats/Republicans and win the election.
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What is the bad policy? Government recognition and protection of marriage contracts?
What does the government care of your personal life? For that matter, why should it? And why should Joe from Arkansas even have a say in whether or not two people he's never met can get married? They shouldn't. And they should recognize a legal contract for anyone who wishes to sign into one. An issue that is a bit complicated, is the couple's adoption of a child, the child cannot make a decision for himself/herself. |
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It's always good to see EFF coming back, but unfortunately instead of 1 BTC, I can probably only donate 0.1 BTC to you now, and I think others are thinking the same. |
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@oakpacific:
i'm in complete agreement with you. The scam doesn't consist in his denial to repay the IOUs, althought, as you said, he was ambiguos on purpose.
The scam is done by tricking people who don't understand how ripple works to give him trust; this is exploitable from others (and maybe himself) to change reliable ious (as bitstamp's ones) with his worthless ious. Say, to steal bitcoins to the gullible.
We should emphasize that the gullible ones are not the only victims. Also people who know TF, or see his status as a member of this forum, can't imagine that he would have put them in the condition of lose real bitcoins, instead of receiving a gift. Betrayed trust, scam... as you want.
Watch the denunciation posts and how many people are thanking me and other guys for the explanation.
I've not lost faith: TF, would you answer the last 4 questions?
The problem is not what you think scamming is, it's what the mods think. As long as they are consistent(their standard obviously includes "breach of enforceable terms"), they do not apply a double standard and are faultless. In fact, if they apply a scammer tag to TF now, they could be in doubt for using double standard. |
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Since many here talked like they have never signed a contract in their life, I decide to chime in with some common sense.
The fact is that even if the mods want to do something to TF(like, giving him a scammer tag), they could not, for exactly the same reason why an IOU is not enforceable legally: an IOU does not specify repayment terms such as the time of repayment. Without the super important set time, TF can always claim something like:"Yeah, I do want to pay back, but I never said when I will pay back, and I actually meant a thousand years later." It may sound ridiculous but if you use your brain, to say a thousand years here is not different from saying one month or one year, the mods can not give him a scammer tag because there is no condition upon which they can judge if he indeed defaults. Unlike MNW's case, where the condition is "if pirateat40 defaults", which he did, or any other unpaid loan for which a payback date was specified in the terms.
A minor point is that TF wrote in the post title that he will give away a "Ripple BTC", rather than a "real BTC", although he was actually a bit ambiguous with that.
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So the way Coinlab operates is perfectly acceptable I guess? Just buying a large amount of bitcoins from a variety of sources, then sell to customers at whatever price they deem to be profitable?
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Thanks, I can read French a bit, but not listen.
Yeah, the document I linked basically says "we'll settle it on September 13th", can't seem to find the document for that though, I had it at some point, if you want I'll have a look. Thanks, if its not too much trouble(a serious "if"). So based on your personal understanding of MK, it appears to you that it is possible that this is not entirely due to bad foresight? |
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To help a stupid guy understand better, can you confirm to me using my analogy: would you consider a multi-currency platform buying/selling(matching orders between different customers) apples, with the apples possible to be delivered at any time by the instruction of the customer, to be a money transmission service? If not, what's the difference?
Yes, if it worked like mtgox (escrowing the funds in the middle) it would qualify as a money transmission business. It's not specific to Bitcoin at all. It could have been the exact same with Magic the Gathering playing cards. Keep in mind that this issue is more specific than that, it targets only the US subsidiary, not MtGox itself. About the only thing showed up for "CIC v MACARAJA" is the Bitcoin talk post in which MK tried to explain why they have done nothing wrong.
There are other resources, mostly in French though - http://www.fs-reboot.eu/static/2011/09/Ordonnance-de-Référé-31-août-2011.pdf If you find a way to read French I'll help you find the other available documents. That time they got out of it OK because the plaintiff was the bank, not the government, and they simply ended up kicked out, not with funds seized/frozen. And it was exactly for the same reasons, like really exactly, Macaraja argued that they were simply an "intermédiaire commercial" and not a money transmitter which the judge found to be nonsense according to the facts presented. Thanks, I can read French a bit, but not listen. It does seem to me Mark somehow believe what he said though, but since you know him... |
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This question I think you can answer: do you take bitcoins?  |
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