So I have a possibly dumb question. I have all my XMR stored in a wallet from the prior version. I DON'T want to convert it to the GUI as it's too much XMR for my liking (sorry I trust it, but not that much, yet). I have noticed that opening existing wallets using the GUI leaves new files called wallet.name.unportable... Can anyone explain what that's about, and if I should just use the monero-wallet-cli.exe instead for larger amount of funds using the beta monerod.exe included with the GUI, or should I just keep waiting longer for a newer release? Thanks! Also, what's the default location for wallets created in the GUI, I can't seem to figure it out? Why don't you just keep 2 instances and send to the gui address you created what you want there from the old instance?
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You idiot
Can we tone down the personal attacks? ThanksSometimes I can't just restrain myself with these uneducated trolls that just spout complete lies. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Besides haven't seen red in awhile! ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Looks like bitcoin grabbed this anonymous sucker in a headlock and applies the force of the whole body to suffocate its victim.
Ek charts aint looking sexy. All signs are that it gets steadily smothered by bitcoin, and I would expect prices to hit 280K basement. Someone also messes up with FCT lol. I wish bitcoin bull
had more arms to take FCT down in headlock, too.
I don't see XMR as a legitimate challenger to BTC, XMR is for those who want to take one specific feature of bitcoin (anonymity) and take it a step further ROTFLMFAO! You idiot, BTC is completely traceable and not even remotely anon.
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It seems like XMR and BTC will break out at the very same time. How could you prepare if you only have XMR and some cash? I'm still resisting the temptation to sell all the cash for XMR and most probably I'll be sorry for that decision, but still wondering what you guys think about that?
Apparently GUI is here, if that factors into your decision. From monero-dev on freenode this morning: [06:17:27] <medusa_> hyc: win x86, x64 are good. os-x is good too [06:17:32] <hyc> so that means we can finally do a public release? [06:19:15] <fluffypony> yes [06:19:24] <hyc> yay [06:19:47] <fluffypony> we've been able to release for a few days, just been finalising environmental stuff and so on [06:19:55] <fluffypony> (beta release) Honestly I think there is going to be some dumping when the actual release is available and announced. Seems like that is always the case for some crypto release that has been built up for a while, and this is like that times one hundred. But, I'm typically wrong, so there's that, too. WTF, always a day late and a dollar short. Lost all my play money playing poker last night. My timing is always the worst. Lol BTC may break out, I am just not so sure about the direction of the breakout. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I agree, I think there is gonna be alot of profit taking soon and then another bear.
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No we don't, the ability to have and hold value without monitoring is an inalienable right afa I'm concerned and i think everyone should hold that belief.
I agree. In addition privacy and anonymity are needed in order to ensure fungibility in crypto currencies, and fungibility is is a necessary requirement of money. Then there is of course the adaptive blocksize in Monero which ensures that there is no arbitrary limit on the number of transactions per second. People in this scene don't know how important and rare this is. People in the Monero scene dont know? I wouldnt think so. Quite a few appreciate the whole package. Even Satoshi is proud of it but cant say (;-) LOL, the crypto scene as a whole.
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No we don't, the ability to have and hold value without monitoring is an inalienable right afa I'm concerned and i think everyone should hold that belief.
I agree. In addition privacy and anonymity are needed in order to ensure fungibility in crypto currencies, and fungibility is is a necessary requirement of money. Then there is of course the adaptive blocksize in Monero which ensures that there is no arbitrary limit on the number of transactions per second. People in this scene don't know how important and rare this is.
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@TrueCryptonaire. How can you say that if growth starts to accelerate, the risk of a correction will be imminent? That is counterintuitive. Should it not be the opposite? If the growth is growing, the risk of a correction will become smaller and smaller.
I also want to ask how is the growth of Monero use in the darknet market place? Are more vendors using it?
I refered to the speculative bubbles which often pop. That being said, the bubbles pop at higher level than started initially. In case of organic growth it is exponential indeed (if there are 2 people using it and each convince 1 people, the userbase is 4. But if 4 uses and convinces 1 user each, the growth is twice as high as it was 2 preachers preaching the good news). Monero is far far from being a mature project in order to dumps being eaten by the markets. Bitcoin has reached closer to that point but even it is still too small for being stable. However, chances are good Monero will develope at faster rate than btc thanks to the second mover advantage. I have no idea how much vendors use XMR but unfortunately we cannot prevent the junkies and criminals using the best alt. Ok I get it now. Thanks for clarifying. That is natural in any market and we have to try our best to be in right side of it. In the topic of junkies and criminals using Monero, is it not exactly that where its real, organic value comes from? We have to accept that the perfect use case for anonymous cryptocoins is exactly for the darknet. No we don't, the ability to have and hold value without monitoring is an inalienable right afa I'm concerned and i think everyone should hold that belief.
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Haha, taking shorts is expensive these days. Lol
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I have no idea how much vendors use XMR but unfortunately we cannot prevent the junkies and criminals using the best alt.
What is considered 'criminal behaviour' is very very relative in time and space, depends on who's in charge, societal climate etc etc... And yes, these people, whose behaviour has been outlawed will seek the best way to hide said behaviour... This is not something which anyone should seek to prevent, at least not by diminishing anonimity/privacy and thus fungibility in a currency Criminal = outlawed. If you live in Somalia which has no law and order there is obviously many things possible but if we look at the majority of countries, most of them has outlawed drugs and certain type of pornography for instance. The criminal activity has partially ruined the reputation of bitcoin (many still think it is a currency of criminals) so it may not be good for the reputation in the beginning. Therefore, being accepted by the D.N.M. is kinda double edged sword: on the one hand it is nice that XMR has some real use case, on the other hand, it might create reputation to the XMR of being the currency of the bad guys. This is the largest criminal asset of all time. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fst.depositphotos.com%2F1007959%2F3442%2Fi%2F950%2Fdepositphotos_34426059-Black-Eyed-Ben-Franklin-on-New-One-Hundred-Dollar-Bill.jpg&t=663&c=AUeHoCh56ZRwSg) It has such a bad reputation no-one will accept it, right? Well to be fair maybe gold is larger but the point still stands.
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LOL, this is funny. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) For Core/Unlimited/Classic haters: This statistic means almost nothing if you don't know how GIT works. (merged commits are counted)
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Guys, using Wolf GPU v10 (i think that was the proper version). miner, on a R9 290 Sapphire Tri-X (non-unlockable).
Drivers are 16.12.1, using per profile overclock for the miner, with 1050/1500 clocks (stock voltage) and manual fan control at 2000rpm. Speeds are 840H/s for 82*C.
Config is: no CPU use at all, 800 raw intensity, 2 threads, worksize 16.
I do not think its possible to run it any faster without touching voltages and increasing clocks (and power consumption).
According to GPU-Z, average Power In is 120-130W. With the rest of the system on idle and 85% power efficiency, this comes to maybe around 250W from the wall.
Does this looks good?
I believe 290x alone's peak power is > 300 watts. You should ask this in the xmr mining thread.
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LOL oh man that is one weird-ass gif!!! And, "HoneyPony" LOL LOL --- I think you just invented the next Major Monero Meme there Because: 1. XMR is not a BTC clone like most other shitcoins 2. Refer to number 1. 1. XMR is not a BTC clone like most other shitcoins 2. Refer to number 1. 3. Profit...!!! FTFY ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) MAN, I'm never gonna get to profit if this is true. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) 1. XMR is not a BTC clone like most other shitcoins 2. If Profit > Pry from my cold dead hands level goto 4. 3. Refer to number 1. 4. Profit...!!! Fixed that for me. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Many of us warned it would die a slow drawn out death months ago. You will see a few little pumps but it is going to die, period. Just decide when you cannot afford to lose more and bail on a mini pump.
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I think the situation is good.
Looking back at when I followed your advices or sayings, I would say you have a far better "backtesting" on long term choices than short term trading... (best decision I take reading your posts and others during 2014 and later: invest in monero long term, worst one : selling a significant part when you predicted capitulation a few weeks ago). I do believe I warned against this and even opened a long.
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So do you guys think Jaxx having Monero integration is enough to push up the price, or do we need to wait for an "official" wallet to really raise the price? (Or are we already priced-in to the anticipation of a wallet?) I've never used Jaxx wallet and I'm wondering if anyone has extensive experience with it, and if adding a GUI will prompt more places to accept Monero. (Which is all I think we really need to break the $10 price point.)
I think Jaxx gave up. Scuttlebutt is they wanted the XMR devs to write it for them. Correct me if I'm wrong guys. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Monero is completely shit coin, as nobody know how to use private keys. One year ago someone asked on reddit how to use private key and nobody answered. same situation here on forum.
HOW TO USE FU**ING MONERO SPEND KEY?
MY GOD!!! You right it's a state secret that no-one knows! Thankfully I am a serious hacker that can find things others can't, here this should help you. https://goo.gl/6eVQDp
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How about a little TA on this 'speculation' thread?
Good support has turned up for the 0.01 level - and buy side on Polo is at above normal and exceeds sell side comfortably, implying a reluctance for hodlers to sell.
This is bullish - especially when BTC has broken the 750 level. Anyone looking back would say (normally) a dip to under 0.01 was to be expected, but the support is surprisingly good.
So - TA gurus - pipe up, what do you see in your crystal balls? December lows are historically the norm, as is an inverse relationship to BTC price too.
Are we in a new paradigm?
The support is also natural for the lifespan of renewed interest (Monero is almost like a new coin for holders who bought or mined in the last few months) so add that to the unsurprising December slump and corresponding drop to bitcoin's rise and you have pretty much a textbook response for XMR. Now if we think the textbook is still accurate, then we see Q1 2017 for a renewed climb to 0.02 but only if it can breach significant walls in between. I do think it's held up pretty well, though. If we make it through this month at this kind of price level, walls or no walls Spring will be rather good. Announcements and developments can easily wreck anyone with overly ambitious shorts when the buy side is this strong. Minor whales beware.... ;-) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reactiongifs.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F09%2FBilly-D_Approves.gif&t=663&c=CBYs0SGCh8ARDQ)
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0.01000000 668.25945239 6.68259452 going down boyz Cheap accumulation with that suppression going on don't fall for it. As soon as they're full it's going back up fast. Here's my margin. Est. Liquidation Price 0.00807476 Called it the whole way hope you guys listened. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) You racking up some good dust, or has your luck at the tables changed enough to play deeper in XMR :?) Lots of dust but made $1300 last night and been winning last few weeks. I'll be going again mon-wed. But I'm not putting anything into crypto but my sig payments. BTC is overpriced IMO. I only margined 48 (which was all i have on the line).
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