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1  Other / Meta / Re: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 07, 2023, 08:52:42 PM
I can't help but wonder if you might be one of them.

But at least I admit it.

As decodx rightly pointed out, can you name a few reasons what Bitcointalk would lose with you gone? To put it differently, can you list what Bitcointalk gains if the admins forgave your violations and unbanned your account/accounts? Those are some of the things the admins will look at. Community support is also important, which is something that is not easy to get as you can see.

Maybe being an active member will do Cheesy

I'm sorry to say this, but from this statement given above by O.P, it's quite stupid and a clear indication that it seems O.P is still not yet fit to be here on this forum, and I don't mind if he should be issued a second temporary ban on this current account and given time to go read back the unofficial forum rules till he understands every bit of what stated in those rule, because from his first conversation, I can sense he still behaves like a "forum Newbie" and ought to be handling a "Newbie" account and not a "Full member" account. Because who knows if this account does not belong to his stepfather, since it seems every member of his family has an account here😀😀.

With all the time I wasted to prove that it was my uncle's, you're still not convinced. Good luck on finding the others Tongue The last time the forum trusts a high merit guy (TYM), becomes a scammer like it was his plan all along.

OP I was trying to figure out your predicament here and still yet your case is very complicated but in all, you appealing for a banned account is not bad but you should have created a fresh new account for the task instead of getting others account involved in this appeal. Do you know that this account might likely cause you another problem or stress of explaining yourself over and over again and again sometime when it is not enough that what you have isuued I kit clear enough.

It was hard to get a merit. I have other important stuffs to do rather than collecting 100 merits to be a full member again.

If you're hoping to get the admins to reconsider your ban, you'll need to demonstrate that your contributions have had a positive impact and that lifting the ban would actually benefit the community. But, it seems quite unlikely that you can effectively make a compelling argument in this regard.

Not today but maybe next time. I'm mostly here for bounties with somehow good post. I couldn't post now because of possible permanent ban due to ban evasion. I rather keep this account silent instead of worsening its situation.

If I could request something from the admin, is for him to delete this thread. This would be my last post here. I won't spend my time anymore on explaining myself for a little chance of removing the ban, so goodbye everyone.
2  Other / Meta / Re: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 06, 2023, 07:27:12 PM
I don't think your chances of getting your account or accounts unbanned and reinstated are good. Many people have been banned in the past for plagiarism-related offences and very few are forgiven. Even if it's true that you worked as a bounty manager and ANN poster for that ICO, you still copied their texts and posted them in your name, which makes it look like you wrote them. All that you had to do to not get in trouble was to post a link to the source or make it clear you aren't the owner of those posts.

Even if the admins were to look past those plagiarism cases, there is still the multiple ban evasions. You borrowed and used alt accounts to request loans on the forum, which wasn't allowed according to forum rules. You participated in other activities outside of a ban evasion thread, which is also not allowed.

Admins sometimes forgive users who have greatly contributed to Bitcointalk but made a mistake. If you dodge and don't respect the rules to continue earning on the forum, they generally don't look that lightly on that sort of thing.   

Honest mistake on plagiarism issue. I just do copy paste that time from the stuffs given to me to post it on the ann thread without checking the source. I was shocked that it was from another website that I didn't visit even once.

There are still many users evading bans that do their normal thing without being caught. I admit that I use another account without knowing that it was illegal here, so I tried to appeal again even though it was too late and almost impossible to unban since I already posting on other threads outside meta.

If admins won't unban me then I just move on and focus on trading crypto again.

3  Other / Meta / Re: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 06, 2023, 05:12:54 PM
~snip~

Here I am wondering why your partner, Solarex_ICO, as you claim, has not written anything here. Contact him, let him write something in your defense. Although it seems to me that it is useless in your case.

I wasn't there when the real owner of barlo357 created this account.

Oh, my friend, so your account is bought. I'm liking the way you're tightening the "noose around your neck" more and more Grin


I’m only working for solarex_ico in this forum as bounty manager and ann thread moderator. I have no contact anymore after the project is dead. The last time we made contact is thru telegram where he was sending me the stuffs that I post in the announcement thread.

The account isn’t bought. Have you really read the whole thread? LOL! It was borrowed and later renounced ownership to me by a family member. I just said that I was not around when he created it since we are not in the same house and you just making conclusions that it was bought. The forum was popular back then and I told this to my family members so that they can have extra income too. As a college student during that time, it was really a big help for me to lessen the school expenses.

Are there still any questions you want to ask?
4  Other / Meta / Re: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 05, 2023, 07:43:37 PM
I sent an appeal via email last 2019 but there is no response. I also sent a follow up to know if they are working on my ban appeal but still no response. I still send ban appeals while borrowing accounts but there is really no response. You didnt ask if i appeal before but this was my first time appealing thru posting on meta.

I knew before that the proper appeal was via email and not thru posting on meta back then. I saw ban appeals on meta but I didnt like to address my issue publicly before because people are just shaming the defendant and most of their bans are not getting removed.

Your account was banned about four years ago, during a wave of permanent bans primarily related to plagiarism. Once banned, you cannot use any other accounts on the forum except for one to create a ban appeal thread in the meta section. Creating additional posts in other threads with other accounts is also a bannable offense.

Regarding your claim of being banned for excessive bumping of Solarex_ICO, it is incorrect. Upon reviewing your post history, I found at least two clear cases of copy-paste plagiarism, which you seem to have forgotten.

An example:
According to the Ridge Times, the  Southern part of Africa is facing various forms of electricity theft resulting in an average loss of up to R20 billion ($1.5 billion) per annum. The local publication states that bypassing of electric meters and consumers, mainly in informal settlements, illegally connecting themselves to the national grid are the two types of electricity theft most common in this part of Africa.
<cut>


Source: https://www.smart-energy.com/features-analysis/electricity-theft-south-africa/

Instances of copy-paste plagiarism like yours usually led to permanent bans.

Plagiarism issue:

This was for the announcement thread and the things I posted there doesn't come from my own. I was posting on behalf of solarex since I was a moderator of that thread. I was just assigned to post those shits. I thought there would be some exceptions when it comes to announcement threads since it was for altcoin promotion and updates. If I only knew this would not end well, then I would just reject being a thread moderator and focus only on bounty management.

There is no plagiarism applied on all of my post aside from that announcement thread.

(Honest mistake)

If only the reason for ban was well-explained to me on the messages, then I could make an accurate appeal regarding on my ban. Not just banning along with ambiguous statement like
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You have been permanently banned by a forum moderator, probably due to spam or plagiarism. You may appeal here, but your chances are not good: banappeals...@bitcointalk.org



And, appealing such bans rarely resulted in them being lifted. What complicates your case even further is the fact that you resorted to "borrowing" other people's accounts to continue posting on the forum after your main account was banned. People have also discovered more of the alt accounts you've used in the past, which doesn't look good for you. Even though you deny association with some of the mentioned accounts, especially the ones that are already banned, the evidence suggests otherwise.

For example, you claim you don't know why BTCedgar (alt of btsjimin and btsjungkook) used your BTC address, but the timestamps of these posts clearly show that you copied his message, not the other way around.

Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7 of btsjungkook
Eth Address 0x9E191e57030e1bBaE50Eb164b835b00BA6308942 of btsjungkook

Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7

You two are the only ones on the forum who have ever used that specific phrase: "Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.", and his message came first. So, even if it were true that he used your address, for some inexplicable reason, it is highly unlikely that you wouldn't have noticed it since you copied his message.

Besides, your account barlo357 and btsjungkook (alt of BTCedgar) were created on the same day, which makes this kind of coincidence even less likely.

Code: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1193282)
Date Registered: 	October 07, 2017, 05:11:18 AM
Code: (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1194486)
Date Registered: 	October 07, 2017, 03:13:25 PM


Considering all the factors at hand, as much as I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt, it appears that your case for appeal is quite weak. Sorry.


For example, you claim you don't know why BTCedgar (alt of btsjimin and btsjungkook) used your BTC address, but the timestamps of these posts clearly show that you copied his message, not the other way around.

Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7 of btsjungkook
Eth Address 0x9E191e57030e1bBaE50Eb164b835b00BA6308942 of btsjungkook

Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7

You two are the only ones on the forum who have ever used that specific phrase: "Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.", and his message came first. So, even if it were true that he used your address, for some inexplicable reason, it is highly unlikely that you wouldn't have noticed it since you copied his message.

BTC wallet address issue:

btcedgar was obviously an alt of btsjungkook since he was posting on behalf of his account since the btsjungkook was banned during the bounty campaign of C

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg25633998#msg25633998 (on: December 02, 2017, 11:09:51 PM)
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Join Form:  Signature campaign
Bitcointalk username: btsjungkook
Account URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1194486
Rank: Member
Starting post Count: 93
Date of Join:  Dec 2, 2017
Bitcoin address: 36sihysgLLbHfxzJR1pyrWxEeSquuTRToz

He was the first who joined the C bounty campaign but the bitcoin wallet address was different before he posted using my btc wallet address, 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg25761029#msg25761029 (on: December 05, 2017, 05:29:14 AM)
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Join Form:  Signature campaign
Bitcointalk username: sumangs
Account URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035888;sa=account
Rank: Full member
Starting post Count: 385(INCLUDING THIS POST)
Date of Join: December 5 2017
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7
Eth address: 0x11674eACa0888ab8f36b92EAE15Da75f977E3A42

I was the first one who use that btc wallet for the C bounty campaign and as you can see that the eth address is different from them,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg26406759#msg26406759 (on: December 16, 2017, 01:56:47 AM)
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Edit: my account was already banned in 7days only and i can't not edit my work.
Day 11:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2520981.msg26128245#msg26128245 Post Count : 116
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2043676.msg26141743#msg26141743 Post Count : 117
Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7 of btsjungkook
Eth Address 0x9E191e57030e1bBaE50Eb164b835b00BA6308942 of btsjungkook

My eth address, 0x11674eACa0888ab8f36b92EAE15Da75f977E3A42 is the one that I'm using for most of the signature campaigns that I joined.

Summary:

btsjungkook's btc wallet December 02, 2017, 11:09:51 PM 36sihysgLLbHfxzJR1pyrWxEeSquuTRToz
sumangs's btc wallet December 05, 2017, 05:29:14 AM 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7
sumangs's eth wallet December 05, 2017, 05:29:14 AM 0x11674eACa0888ab8f36b92EAE15Da75f977E3A42
btcedgar's btc wallet December 16, 2017, 01:56:47 AM 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7
btcedgar's eth wallet December 16, 2017, 01:56:47 AM 0x9E191e57030e1bBaE50Eb164b835b00BA6308942

"Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment." issue:

There are 6 post between btcedgar and sumangs:

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btcedgar's post December 16, 2017, 01:56:47 AM

1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg26407838#msg26407838 December 16, 2017, 02:40:50 AM
2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg26408369#msg26408369 December 16, 2017, 03:04:14 AM
3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg26409135#msg26409135 December 16, 2017, 03:33:13 AM
4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg26409439#msg26409439 December 16, 2017, 03:44:21 AM
5 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg26409493#msg26409493 December 16, 2017, 03:46:24 AM
6 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg26409707#msg26409707 December 16, 2017, 03:53:16 AM

sumang's post December 16, 2017, 04:13:48 AM

Before I post a reply, there is a topic summary below where I can check if I'm doing the right thing. I saw a post that quotes this from the OP:

Quote from: Ehrhc on December 01, 2017, 11:38:52 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg25546112#msg25546112

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IMPORTANT: This is optional >>> Because of BTC high transaction fees, you can change your BTC address to ETH Address, we will pay you same amount based on BTC exchange rate to USD the moment of sending.(If you want, else we will send BTC to the address we have.)

from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912.msg26409135#msg26409135

It wasn't there during the initial post, but the OP edited it since the bitcoin's price was skyrocketing that time. The OP might be confused if I want btc or eth as a payment for my bounty work since I stated both btc and eth address on my post, so I was finding someone with the same situation as me where they also include their eth address where I saw one, but he/she didn't state if he wants btc or eth as a payment. Then there is one post that I saw where btcedgar stated "Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment." where I copied it and inserted it on my post so that the OP will know that I also want btc as a payment. I saw the same btc wallet address but I wasn't worried at first since I was the one who posted it before him until you guys used it against me and accused me that it was my alt.

barlo357 and btsjungkook account creation issue:

This is only a coincidence. I really have no idea about btsjungkook's account creation. I wasn't there when the real owner of barlo357 created this account. He just informed me that he created a bitcointalk account and guide him. During the time btsjungkook was on the C bounty campaign where he joined on december 2017, barlo357 was on INS bounty campaign where he joined on october 2017 until january 2018 and joined smt bounty campaign after (ins and smt were under deadley's bounty management).


P.S. This thread made me fucking exhausted from remembering the actions I did before. If there's really a low chance for my main account to be unbanned, then this is not worth trying and just move on from this forum.
5  Other / Meta / Re: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 05, 2023, 05:23:06 AM
As for OP, I understand correctly that your appeal here is not to lift the ban against sumangs and instead to declare and request dissociation from any other previous account, including barlo_and-I-forgot-the-dog's-name so that this current account will not and can not be considered as a ban-evasive account? with these clusterfuck of accounts set aside for now as that is the last thing my head need in between this current hammering migraine

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barlo_and-I-forgot-the-dog's-name
barlo_blake hehe

I create this thread for the mod to reconsider the ban against sumangs because you told me that using barlo357 while my main account sumangs was banned is considered a ban evasion. So, in order for this account to not be considered as ban evasive account, I must remove the ban on my main account by making a ban appeal. Once the ban was removed, this account wouldnt be considered as ban evasive anymore.

For some people, instead of focusing on the main reason why my main account was banned, which is the rule #13, they are more focus on the accounts I was connected to while my main account was banned.

They're focusing on the accounts connected and that you used instead of on rule #13 is because the accounts are quite a pile. It indicated that you're --one may argue-- a prolific ban evader. The decision to lift the ban is completely on the hand of mods, although they'll quite likely listen to the community's opinion and take it to their consideration alongside with the reputation and the contribution made by the account in question.

My apology, but I have to agree with bitcoingirl, you're digging your hole, a massive one, because it is revealed that you're not only utilizing barlo and sumangs, there are couple other accounts you "borrowed" as well. One that came to my mind that perhaps could help us understand you --and from it, you helping yourself with this case-- is probably to explain why you use and borrow those accounts instead of appealing for the ban to be lifted on the first place? Why now? You said and I quote,

I'm going to appeal in few days. I hope they would unban me since it was my first time managing an announcement thread and I don't know spamming would get a ban without any warnings.

So you, finally, already have a plan --in a few days after the deleted post above was made-- to appeal, why didn't this initiative came to you when sumangs got banned years ago?




I sent an appeal via email last 2019 but there is no response. I also sent a follow up to know if they are working on my ban appeal but still no response. I still send ban appeals while borrowing accounts but there is really no response. You didnt ask if i appeal before but this was my first time appealing thru posting on meta.

I knew before that the proper appeal was via email and not thru posting on meta back then. I saw ban appeals on meta but I didnt like to address my issue publicly before because people are just shaming the defendant and most of their bans are not getting removed.

6  Other / Meta / Re: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 04, 2023, 08:42:19 PM

Could you kindly clarify the connection between these accounts and disclose any other accounts you manage? You are under no obligation to do so, but providing this information could shed light on your situation and potentially help the managers' evaluation of your ban appeal case.


my created accounts:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035888 - main account banned
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1180107 - alt but i lend this to a friend (no access anymore)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1373641 - alt but i lend this to a friend (no access anymore)

accounts i borrowed during my main account was banned:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1163354 - my friend owns this. i used this to request a loan for trading purposes, that is why the btc address is same as sumangs when applying for a loan. I didnt use it anymore after the loan request wasnt granted.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1227570 - my friend owns this. i used this for bcnex sig campaign since my main was banned. We agreed to share the bounty rewards after. I didnt use it anymore after the bounty was done. I made one last post regarding to the scam allegations against solarex since my main account that was working for solarex was banned.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1193282 - my relative owns this and the account i currently use

accounts that i borrowed before my main account was banned:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2031561 - my relative owns this. he created this for backup. I opened this only once.

accounts that i neither owned nor a friend:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1361323 - i dont know why he used my btc address
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1194486 - i dont know why he used my btc address
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1199549 - alt or friend of btsjunkook



As for OP, I understand correctly that your appeal here is not to lift the ban against sumangs and instead to declare and request dissociation from any other previous account, including barlo_and-I-forgot-the-dog's-name so that this current account will not and can not be considered as a ban-evasive account? with these clusterfuck of accounts set aside for now as that is the last thing my head need in between this current hammering migraine

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barlo_and-I-forgot-the-dog's-name
barlo_blake hehe

I create this thread for the mod to reconsider the ban against sumangs because you told me that using barlo357 while my main account sumangs was banned is considered a ban evasion. So, in order for this account to not be considered as ban evasive account, I must remove the ban on my main account by making a ban appeal. Once the ban was removed, this account wouldnt be considered as ban evasive anymore.

For some people, instead of focusing on the main reason why my main account was banned, which is the rule #13, they are more focus on the accounts I was connected to while my main account was banned.



I think you have no idea about how the forum work or you would not come to this is my friend, he is friend type of stories.

With due respect to you, I won't spend my time here making stories and I won't blame you if you dont want to believe the "friend" or "relative" thing that I'm mentioning. Of course, I won't disclose any personal details about them that is why i addressed them like that. They're all inactive in this forum and I don't want to bother them anymore to vouch for me. I'm answering your questions with almost full honesty as I don't remember the exact details of the events before, but I hope my answers would make things clear.
7  Other / Meta / Re: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 04, 2023, 12:08:44 PM
I have read the whole post and the replies, but I'm shocked that why have you posted a ban appeal from your uncle's account? You could do it from any new account and if your point was right then you might be given a second chance by the moderators. But, the thing you have done was not a intelligent step and because of that you risked your uncle's account as well.

Even though the account that you are using is legit but still if someone, who is banned from the forum, is using such account to create an appeal thread or join signature campaigns is a sign of ban evading. Because you doesn't seem to be a wrong person and you words aren't in any way of a scammer, that's why I'm not going against you. I will keep silent in the situation and let the moderators decide for you.

It would be better if you had created a new account and posted ban appeal from that account. In that way you won't be doing any form of ban evasion. It's always preferable to appeal for your banned account from a newly created account, and if your appeal is good enough then the moderators might give you another chance.

However, in search of being unbanned you broke another rule by using the forum from another account, or I may say from many alternative accounts. In such case only a moderator or administrator knows that either you will get unbanned or you might lose you current account if you continue using it because it will be considered as ban evasion.



Because i admit it using my uncle’s account. Making another account for appeal would be hassle since i need to make another email for it (as far as i know, bitcointalk account requires a working email). I decided not to make another account for making an appeal post again. I’ll just follow what the other forum member said where I should not make a post on other threads aside from meta.



So that people can better understand what you are talking about, OP, it was worth adding a link to the beginning of your story.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233790.msg62313258#msg62313258



The perma ban isnt a solution for all offense. Every offense should has different punishment. It has been 4 years since the ban of my 1035888 account and i think a ban for a certain number of days should be a fair punishment for the offense that my 1035888 account made.

You are a cheerful guy. I think that you have amused many here with your rules

I think let’s not make this complicated. I make an appeal for my account 1035888 here. Instead of talking about it, you are redirecting on this account’s ban evasion offense in which it doesn’t help on my account 1035888’s situation.
8  Other / Meta / Re: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 04, 2023, 11:57:51 AM
As if im the only one that was doing it in this forum. Have you already purge all of them? I think no. At least i was honest about having another account and willing to fix it.

Did you actually read what i wrote?

Here's a quote from my post:
--snip--
I know it looks like people don't make a big deal out of ban evasion most of the time... I don't really mind... But to my understanding (after being here close to a decade) those are the "official" unofficial rules.
--snip--

I don't care what you do, i'm not the one banning people or tracking offenders down... It just that after reading your posts, i was under the impression you thought that because the account wasn't originally created by you, you weren't evading a ban (which you are).

I see people breaking the law on a daily basis (usually traffic laws). It's not because everybody is doing it that it's ok to break the law yourself... Neither am i going to stop other people from breaking laws since i'm not law enforcement.
But if they would come to the forum and said: "i was riding 90 km/h on a road where the speed limit was 70 km/h, but it wasn't my car and everybody else was doing it, so that's ok. I should have never gotten a speeding ticket": i would never ever agree with you... Maybe the law is stupid and 90 km/h is perfectly fine at a certain spot: it doesn't matter, you still broke the (traffic) law. If you wanted to ride 90 km/h you should have petitioned the local governement to change the speed limit before going 90 km/h.

Any other offense aside from ban evasion in barlo357? I’m appealing for uid:1035888’s offense and that will be my only focus starting now. Once the offense of my banned account was lifted, there would be no reason to throw allegations about ban evasion here.

Your analogy isnt targeted on the banned account but on this account which will be voided once the ban issue on my 1035888 is fixed. I will also refrain posting on other threads until the ban was lifted to prevent the situation becoming worse.

The perma ban isnt a solution for all offense. Every offense should has different punishment. It has been 4 years since the ban of my 1035888 account and i think a ban for a certain number of days should be a fair punishment for the offense that my 1035888 account made.
9  Other / Meta / Re: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 04, 2023, 11:34:40 AM

Wow! Lets make an example:

What if some troll will use your details and the mod will find that a troll account was mistakenly accused as an alt account of someone doing an honest work here?

Or the real owner borrows another forum members wallet address?
Just making conclusions of only the things u see and disregard what’s on the background?


What data are you talking about? In account
Solarex_ICO I did not find any data that could point to your account. But what about the other account that you gave three merits to? Is this also a relative?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2031561

How many more accounts are there that we don't know about?

Someone points me i used btcedgar and btsjungkook even i didnt open it once on any of my device. He just made a conclusion just because my btc wallet was in btcedgar and btsjungkook’s authentication post.

The other accounts wasnt really mine but it shouldnt be count as an alt account just because i have access to it. People can share authentication to someone they trust and it wasnt said on the rules that it was prohibited.

I didnt use solarex_ico’s account and never had an access to it but i worked for him.

The merits are given to barlo_blake for no reason and it was a good excuse to not give theyoungmillionaire a merit back then.
10  Other / Meta / Re: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 04, 2023, 10:55:27 AM
Oh God, I see that the OP's honesty in this example borders on stupidity.
Maybe I don't understand something, but why create a topic in the meta and talk about a blocked account when you don't have any matches with it? Nobody would pay attention to you. Are you so paranoid that you think you will be followed? Or do you need a newbie account and are ready to part ways with a higher-ranking account?
I don't understand what you want to achieve here. Now, according to the rules, you must leave the forum from this account.


Bristlefront, alt account but already gave it to a friend. (Not account selling)
Btcedgar, i dont know that account. That wasnt mine or my friends
Btsjungkook, i dont know that account. That wasnt mine or my friends
Dyswv, my friend account. I used it only for few weeks.
Selectaselectine, my friend account, i used only for few weeks



Talking about friends and girlfriends will not work here. All found accounts belong to you, and everything you say is just words in the air. Nobody believes this.

Wow! Lets make an example:

What if some troll will use your details and the mod will find that a troll account was mistakenly accused as an alt account of someone doing an honest work here?

Or the real owner borrows another forum members wallet address?




Just making conclusions of only the things u see and disregard what’s on the background?
11  Other / Meta / Re: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 04, 2023, 10:43:51 AM
Just to chime in on (my understanding of) ban evasion:

If you get banned, it's you (as a person) that gets banned, not (only) your account.

So, it doesn't matter if your account is a hand-me-down of your uncle, or if you found the credentials on a piece of paper laying on the street somewhere. If an account under your control gets banned, you (as a person) are no longer allowed to post using any other accounts for the duration of the ban. The only exception is making a new account (or using an existing account) to create a ban appeal in the meta section for discussing your ban. Everything else is considered ban evasion (which is a bannable offence).

It doesn't really matter why you got banned in the first place... If you don't agree with your ban, the correct order of doing things is: using a new or existing account to create one topic in meta to appeal your ban and ONLY post in this topic whilst your ban is still active. If your ban gets reversed (and only if) you can start posting again outside meta. I got banned once for participating in a raffle in the wrong subforum, and that's exactly what i did: i stopped posting and asked for lenience from the admin since it was my first offence after years of being a member... My sentence got reduced, and i only started posting once my bantime was over.

I know it looks like people don't make a big deal out of ban evasion most of the time... I don't really mind... But to my understanding (after being here close to a decade) those are the "official" unofficial rules.

As if im the only one that was doing it in this forum. Have you already purge all of them? I think no. At least i was honest about having another account and willing to fix it.
12  Other / Meta / Re: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 04, 2023, 10:38:36 AM
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Which account was banned?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035888



This was not really my alt. I didn't create this from the start, and it has a different owner before. The ownership was renounced to me since the first owner (my uncle) wasn't interested in the forum anymore.

You seem to have uncles and aunts and nephews on this forum Grin

bristlefront
BTCedgar
btsjungkook
DySWv
selectaselectine

Joined Telegram
@sumangs
0xc94a2301B0cbD9c247C1fc34911Dc77160A7210c

#Proof of authentication
Bitcointalk username: sumangs
Telegram username: @sumangs
ETH address: 0xc94a2301B0cbD9c247C1fc34911Dc77160A7210c



Join Form:  Signature campaign
Bitcointalk username: sumangs
Account URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035888;sa=account
Rank: Full member
Starting post Count: 385(INCLUDING THIS POST)
Date of Join: December 5 2017
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7
Eth address: 0x11674eACa0888ab8f36b92EAE15Da75f977E3A42
~snip~


~snip~
Edit: my account was already banned in 7days only and i can't not edit my work.
Day 11:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2520981.msg26128245#msg26128245 Post Count : 116
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2043676.msg26141743#msg26141743 Post Count : 117
Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.
Bitcoin address: 36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7 of btsjungkook
Eth Address 0x9E191e57030e1bBaE50Eb164b835b00BA6308942 of btsjungkook

If he quotes the btsjungkook account, then he owns it too.

Amount you need : 0.07 BTC (ALMOST 500 USD)
Repayment amount : 0.1 BTC
Repayment date : After 10 days (SHORT TERM)
A signed message using a very very old bitcoin address that you have used here.

36FyRqBPxZDjeJsFLsYubVrqbnexxXVMh7

This is my one and only bitcoin address since I joined on June 2017.

I will send additional info on a cc copy on your another account, GreedyBitcoiner.



#Proof of authentification

Bitcointalk Username: sumangs
Bcnex Email: juanlorenzo.sumangil@gmail.com        
Telegram Username: @CaptainAllMight
Campaign: Signature

#Proof of Authentication
Bitcointalk name: selectaselectine
Bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1227570
Telegram username: @CaptainAllMight
ETH address: 0x4CAf8D3035173061d9a515555c0CcA5a96090E00

Bristlefront, alt account but already gave it to a friend. (Not account selling)

Btcedgar, i dont know that account. That wasnt mine or my friends. Reference for real owner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2408654.msg25563510#msg25563510

Btsjungkook, i dont know that account. That wasnt mine or my friends. Alt of btsjimin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1199549

Dyswv, my friend account. I used it only for few weeks.

Selectaselectine, my friend account, i used only for few weeks.

13  Other / Meta / Re: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 04, 2023, 10:32:27 AM
I already leave a neutral feedback because your account is evading ban and was changed hands, I hope the moderators will taking an action ASAP.

Well the ban happen since 2019 and I don't really know what was the reason, but getting permanent banned due to bumping post is high unlikely IMO, the moderators usually merge the post and then leave it.

You should explain what have you contributed in this forum, but I don't see any contribution you've done, you're only run a campaign, become a moderator and ask a loan.

The loan thing was properly resolved even I didnt get a loan. I was almost became a victim of a scam website if it wasnt for those people that I talked on that thread. That thread was a good example to what other kind of scams out there during that time.

If you disagree on the appeal, then try to find a reason why I got banned other than breaking rule 13. Clue: not on because of the loan. The bumping of a thread is the only reason I can see why the account was banned. Like I said before, it was my first time moderating a thread and merging the updates on a single post was not in my mind that time because in my perspective back then, the updates are time sensitive, so I lost my sense to follow the rule regarding bumping threads.

Why finding a contribution? Does being not a nuisance in the community not enough?

14  Other / Meta / Re: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 03, 2023, 09:28:35 PM
I think this is the first case I have come across where a user was banned for bumping a thread. At first I thought maybe something else occured that Op was unaware of that led to his account being banned I searched ninjastic.space to see if any of his post was reported for plagarism but I couldn't see any.

If unbanned, I won't be using my original account. If I will use it, I won't be using barlo357. I just want to clear my name regarding to ban evasion.
You sound innocent and the mistake seems innocent mistake. I am with you and just hope that others don't make it a big issue. There are people who might protest since one of your alt is ban, so this account should be banned too and you are evading ban when you are making posts on other boards accept appealing for your ban on the Meta board.

According to what I've seen in several ban appeal threads, there must be a user who wants Op's account to be banned as well, and because this is an anomaly (to me), I'd love to see his banned account unbanned, I also give Op my support, and I hope this topic yields the desired result.

Op now that this thread has been created please refrain from your signature campaign so that you won't make matter worst for yourself.

Okay, I will wait my main account's ban to be uplifted before posting continuing my signature campaign.

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I think this is the first case I have come across where a user was banned for bumping a thread.

I didn't receive any notice about it. I just saw on my homepage that my account was perma banned and the only reason after I read the rules is the rule about bumping threads in which I knew that the only thread I was bumping is the announcement thread that I'm working on.

I was hoping that my appeal thru email would make a difference. I do some follow ups when there is no reply within 24-48 hours until I lose hope. I was still a silent reader even though I was banned, searching some good altcoins to trade which made me money last bull run.
15  Other / Meta / Re: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 03, 2023, 08:42:58 PM
You are again breaking a rule (unofficial rule). You are not allowed to make more than one post in a row. It takes time to build a full member and on the way to achieve a full member rank one must know at least some of the rules. I wonder why are you still ignorant.

I thought the rules on announcement threads are different back then. I was my first time handling an announcement thread too. I was unaware that I'm following the rules until I posted too much in a row. In my perspective, the updates should be on time and it shouldn't be late. I tried to appeal via email, but it was ignored.

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No sure what to tell. Normally when one person manage more than one account then the account they first created except that account, all other accounts should be his alt account. Since you managed that account, that was your alt too. However, I hope no one will make it a big deal from it.

If unbanned, I won't be using my original account. If I will use it, I won't be using barlo357. I just want to clear my name regarding to ban evasion.
16  Other / Meta / Re: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 03, 2023, 08:17:24 PM
It seems that moderators banned some accounts recently, many van appeals are showing up in meta


Op, I am not a moderator but it seems that it's difficult for me to understand you. If I didn't understand, it's likely that the moderator who will handle your case will also not understand.

Which account was banned?
Could it be Solarex_ICO?, if yes, why didn't you create a new account with Solarex_ICO_appeal  for the appeal.
The thread you referenced that you were bumping was last updated 2019.
I don't want to believe that the banned profile is not mentioned here.
Then barlo357 is safe because you posted with it.
What exactly I'm I not getting right?

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Which account was banned?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035888



If ever the account was unbanned, I will now continue using this account (barlo357) and contribute some of my thoughts in this platform.

In my understanding, it is generally not permitted to create or use additional accounts if one of your accounts is banned.
By using this account you are essentially breaking the ban evasion rule:

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]


This was not really my alt. I didn't create this from the start, and it has a different owner before. The ownership was renounced to me since the first owner (my uncle) wasn't interested in the forum anymore.

17  Local / Pilipinas / Re: May Mga Influencer Ba Tayo Na Tutok Sa Cryptocurrency? on: June 03, 2023, 07:44:47 PM

Bakit mo sinali si Marvin Favis sa top 3 mo par? HAHAHA! Mas ok pa si Wanderer Trader (https://www.facebook.com/WandererTrade) kaysa dyan. Walang pinagkaiba si Marvin Favis sa mga shiller sa crypto twitter eh iba lang yung platform niya.


Sa tingin ko si Marvin Favis ay isang shiller ng crypto. Nakita ko siya sa TikTok noon nung 2021, madaming fake influencer ang nagsisilabasan at meron ding mga fake mentors pero ngayon wala na sila. Magaling kasi magsalita si Marvin Favis, tapos yung mga trades nya ay most of the time tumatama kasi yung market bullish, alam natin na basta bullish ay madami ang kumikita. Hindi ko sigurado kung malaki ba talaga kita nya kasi yung losses nya hindi pinapakita. Hindi ko masasabing magaling magtrade si Marvin Favis kasi di katulad kay Wander Trader nagti-TA talaga, pero naniniwala ako na maraming nahihikayat na pumasok sa cryptocurrency dahil sa kanya.


Tingin ko kahit sino naman madaling magkaroon ng profit kapag bull market kaya mataas talaga yung chance na tatama si Marvin Favis pero siya lang halos yung napapansin kasi madami siyang followers.
18  Other / Meta / [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 on: June 03, 2023, 07:41:31 PM
The reason for ban is mostly due to rule #13
and plagiarism (updated: June 6, 2023 4:20AM Philippines Time)

Ban appeal request for the account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035888

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13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours per thread. Bumping multiple threads at the same time is allowed if it's not annoying.

The thread that I'm bumping is "https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4290632.0" and I posted more than one updates per 24 hours resulting for the announcement thread to be bumped so that many bitcointalk users can see the thread.

I was working for Solarex_ICO as a bounty manager and announcement thread moderator. At first, even though I don't know the rules for bumping, I was blindly following the rules by updating the announcement thread one post per day until I already broke the rule #13. I'm not aware that I'm already breaking the rule without being noticed until the month of May 2019 where I update too much and one day, I just saw my account banned after I logged in.

It was my first time moderating an announcement thread and it was my bad where I didn't read the rules before doing some actions. If I only knew from the start, then I will comply to the rules. I'm doing updates for it to show on the first page and hoping to get some views to create a discussion with my boss answering their inquiries. With this, the discussion will continue bumping the thread without me posting too much. Unfortunately, my account got banned and what can I only do is update the spreadsheets weekly for the bounty campaign. The bounty campaign was also short-lived since there are only few people interested with the project.

If ever the account was unbanned, I will now continue using this account (barlo357) and contribute some of my thoughts in this platform. After being a full-time trader for a year, there are many lessons that I've learned and make sure to utilize the forum to share my knowledge and opinions about crypto.


Addressing plagiarism issue: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5455005.msg62360421#msg62360421 (updated: June 6, 2023 4:22 AM Philippines Time)
19  Local / Pilipinas / Re: May Mga Influencer Ba Tayo Na Tutok Sa Cryptocurrency? on: June 01, 2023, 07:50:09 PM
May mga Influencer ba tayo na tutok sa Cryptocurrency, pwedeng artista o content creator na masasabi natin na malaking impluwesya sa Cryptocurrency adoption sa ating bansa kung meron post kayo dito para makita at makilala ng ibang mga kababayan natin na supporter o nag uumpisa pa lang sa Cryptocurrency.

Madami ding rising content creator sa bansa natin ito mga fino-follow ko na content creator.

Kookoocrypto https://www.facebook.com/kookoocrypto?mibextid=ZbWKwL
Luis Buenaventura https://www.facebook.com/helloluis?mibextid=ZbWKwL
Marvin Favis https://www.facebook.com/marvingozonfavis?mibextid=ZbWKwL

Sa kanila maganda manood pero do your own research parin kung ano yung pinapakita nila or sinasabing mga impormaston mas mainam parin na may sariling research tayong ginagawa para mapatunayan sa sarili natin na maganda ba talaga ang mga nasagap natin at hindi lang ito pang ha-hype lang.

Bakit mo sinali si Marvin Favis sa top 3 mo par? HAHAHA! Mas ok pa si Wanderer Trader (https://www.facebook.com/WandererTrade) kaysa dyan. Walang pinagkaiba si Marvin Favis sa mga shiller sa crypto twitter eh iba lang yung platform niya.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do Anyone Think Luna Will Recover? on: June 01, 2023, 07:35:24 PM
it's even worse than meme coin right now honestly, it's just a remnant of scam coin where many of the one that seeking profit from it just actually trying to go against the wave fighting against manipulation and usually just lost their money.
this is just shitcoin that have really bad history right there that people should avoid, i also still wonder to this day why many are so eager thinking that this coin will recover, no it wouldn't and will never recover ever again.
this coin just pure abomination that should be avoided thats it.
even if this coin could somehow recover gaining fraction of its former all time high, eventually this just gonna scams again.

It still has a marketcap of 500 million USD and decent trading volume. I don't know why people still risking their money on Luna Classic. It will neither go back to $1 nor burn its supply. The one who benefit there are the whales who convince people to FOMO on it. Some are lucky to catch the bottom and profit very well from it, but it won't happen to anyone.
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