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It's February already, and nothing from THCG management. No information about Mongolian facility, or any other one. It's very very sketchy now.
Hello, Please understand that working with anything over 100 MW is already insanely tough to work with politically, add on the fact that it is in Canada which means we can't just skip steps, there are building codes etc we have to look into. We are working hard on finalizing the facility and bringing it up to proper standards. There is a lot of work and a lot of waiting involved not just because of us, but because large corporations move slowly. Believe me, I am trying to push this out as fast as I can because who doesn't want a facility at the moment? You could also say that its very sketchy, but we aren't asking for any payments whatsoever. We have invested nearly all of our time into getting the new facility details locked down and working on it rather than trying to give worse service or take peoples money. We still do offer our Mongolian facility out, but with less advertising because there isn't enough time in the day to do all of these things. If we were to be consistently advertising, trying to push for payments without proof etc, then I would totally understand your guys' doubts but as it stands we are working our hardest. We have complied and tried our best to provide you guys adequate photos, but if this isn't enough then you guys are allowed to wait until we begin our Canadian facility. Thanks, THCG (The Hedge Coin Group) |
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Some partners and I have a 8-12MW requirement in the coming months and would be keen to hear from anyone who could offer this sort of power.
thanks
Hi! I think that you would be interested in our service. We are looking at 150 MW up and running by the end of April. We are opening our new facility in Canada. Thanks, THCG (The Hedge Coin Group) |
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Khem... Will anything we were asking previously, addressed? Photos of Mongolian facility, full photo review, etc...? We don't need new facilities announced, we need only one solid one, checked and vetted.
We will most likely be shifting our operations to focus on our new facilities. These new facilities will have space to hold all of our machines in one place, as stated construction will be posted as it goes on. This will reduce further problems in the future and easily allow for expansion for us and our clients as well. Thanks, THCG (The Hedge Coin Group) Thank you. Which facilities will that be, then? Canada is getting focus, or Mongolian one as well? Because as I understand Mongolian facility is just few months old? Currently, our main focus will be Canada as we have several large clients that need hosting immediately. Mongolian facility will still be running and operational; however, it is a lesser priority currently and we are allocating most of our resources to begin developing our facility in Canada. Thanks, THCG (The Hedge Coin Group) |
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Khem... Will anything we were asking previously, addressed? Photos of Mongolian facility, full photo review, etc...? We don't need new facilities announced, we need only one solid one, checked and vetted.
We will most likely be shifting our operations to focus on our new facilities. These new facilities will have space to hold all of our machines in one place, as stated construction will be posted as it goes on. This will reduce further problems in the future and easily allow for expansion for us and our clients as well. Thanks, THCG (The Hedge Coin Group) |
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My short analyses of TheHedgeCoinGroup: I too have been exchanging a few emails with them looking for a new hosting location. I also spent a bit of time researching anything I could find related to them on the web - looking for indications if it is legit OR fraud…… My conclusion is that there is a medium to high probability this is fraud. Not conclusive, but highly likely. Would love to be proven wrong. Below are my reasons leaning towards being fraudulent: a. Only accepts bitcoins as payment and no wire transfer. b. Domain registered only 3 months ago: Creation Date: 2017-09-08T16:35:42.00Z c. Domain with private registration. d. Elusive with photos/images. e. Unable to verify identify of individuals I exchanged emails with. Very little on linkedin, web searches, china's version of linked in, etc f. Large inventory of many machines types available when I inquired about purchasing machines. No one has inventory like this sitting around. g. Text on web site seems to be copied from other sites. h. Claims to be in China with mining location in Mongolia, but a bit of forensic analyses on source email appears to indicate who ever emailed me did so on a browser from of Alberta, Canada. This is the needle in the haystack. I exchanged emails with Vince and analyzed everything I could in the header, writing styles, etc. The email was generated using Microsoft office 365 and owa. Emails originating from ip: 184.68.199.50 This is visible in the headers we can see: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=info@thehedgecoingroup.com; x-originating-ip: [184.68.199.50] Ip 2 Location lookup on IP 184.68.199.50 indicates a physical location of Canada, Alberta, Calgary, from Shaw Communications Inc. A bit more research -- this is tied to DSL line in Canada from Shaw Communications A bit more search... isp ip also in an SFP record for www.patchingassociates.com "v=spf1 mx ip4:184.68.199.50 include:spf.protection.outlook.com -all" A bit more research... ip 184.68.199.50 is running a public facing ftp server. A bit more search the ftp server is running on plain text, no tls/sftp and appears to be an old version. My guess this is how they got into the server. A very common exploit pattern by guessing a uid/pwd OR exploiting some unpatched vulnerability. This is a good way to cover your tracks...... Conclusion: If I were to guess, they are using a compromised server in Alberta, Canada belonging to PatchingAssociates.com to use Web Mail in office 365 to cover up their tracks. Server in Alberta, Canada belongs to www.PatchingAssociates.com which has nothing to do with mining operations and appears to lack security on their ftp server........too many steps have been taken to cover up and hide identity - private domain registration, cloud flare for web site hosting, using server/pc in Canada for web mail, and only accepting bitcoins for payment. Stay safe out there!!!! Hello, We would prefer that you remove any personal information that you have posted. There are a ton of logistics behind every company that no one sees and we have done our best to please everyone. What you don't know before posting all of this is the following: 1. We have members based in different parts of the world in order to actively respond to messages at all times 2. We are actively building out a data center in Canada that is almost ready to be announced, for which I am assigned to take care of construction and overseeing completion. We will be creating a documentary on this as we continue to develop it. 3. We have lost 3 customers money due to wire transfer and had to remove it as such, we also have a limit to the amount of foreign currency available for receipt in our bank accounts until we get a new one in Hong Kong, which we think is a valid reason to not accept it. 4. We have only recently, as stated before looked into expanding our brand online and to get new customers outside of China so it would be normal to not have to create a domain unless needed to satisfy our new customers, we did this because of the huge increase in interest of Bitcoin 5. We have tried to satisfy as many questions and suggestions posted by forum users, we cannot take a picture every single time that we want to sell 10 units to someone because then the majority of our time would be spent driving back and forth to the facility just to take photos 6. We have a deep supply chain, what we have in stock is not only ours, but our suppliers as well. We have continually done so many things to try and improve our process from hiring a web developer, to getting a new CRM, to getting a new invoicing system, to reaching out on multiple platforms and look for different business opportunities and ventures. We have invested a lot more than any other company and if this were all to be for a small scam, do you think it would really be worth it? I guess this would be a good time to announce our Canadian Data Center: We are opening a new Data Center in Canada! The minimum amount for hosting in this facility is 1000 machines, we have a capacity of over 100 000 machines and will be offering facility visits for people with interest and proof that they have the minimum amount of machines! We realize that there is a lot of discontent within China and this is the reason we have started shifting gears to announce this! We are looking at a capacity of around 20000 machines by the end of February, so message us if you would like more details! Thanks, THCG (The Hedge Coin Group) |
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PM'ed, I know you have a limit to PM's as a newbie so I attached an email address.
Thanks,
THCG (The Hedge Coin Group)
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Hi Guys!
Sorry for the low responses and updates! We are working out a large project currently and we may have exciting news soon!
This facility, we have plans in place for someone to visit at the end of January.
Please be patient as we work on this project and can have more details for you ready!
Thanks,
THCG (The Hedge Coin Group)
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has anyone send their miners to Mongolia?
Hello! We have a couple of our customers machines that have already been sent to Mongolia that should be set up within a couple of days. We are looking to expand our operations overseas possibly so keep your eye out on any information with regards to that! Thanks, THCG (The Hedge Coin Group) |
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I'm in China, and my partner has a good relationship with ebit. I'm interested in getting 4 or 5 myself. If you want, I could help distribute the machines from within China and save you from getting stuck with the vat on 20 machines.
Disclaimer: I sell miners myself, and run western distribution for one of China's biggest resellers, but in today's market, $4300 is stupid cheap for 18t. You won't get a used s9 that cheap. Probably not even a preorder.
With a good relationship with Ebit shouldn't you be able to get a better deal on these machines? Personally, we have deals with Ebang as well and offer relatively similar pricing for an earlier shipping date without having to do bulk orders. |
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Hello!
Of course! We want to present our facilities in the best light possible. We will have a couple thousand machines in it around Late January/Early Feb. We know that no one would want to see an empty facility, nor would it prove anything, thus we have been waiting.
THCG (The Hedge Coin Group)
I want to see empty facility - plus transformers and wiring. Absence of any pictures makes you very suspicious, its a a deal breaker. Besides - I do not want to see a facility full of machines - with no room left for my. Can You Please Post Pictures Now? Thanks Hello! We also have pictures of our facility in the second post of the thread, check those out. We will be posting a photo (possibly a video) of our facility with our name, our website, the date etc. It will be a general photo that should be for uploaded tomorrow. I hope you guys are excited! Is there anything specific you guys would like to see? I will look into what we can do! Suggestions will be accepted for around 12 hours. Nothing to the extreme will be accepted though. We are doing our best to accommodate. We are still a business at the end of the day. Note: We have changed the policy for set up fees and are going to raise it to $100. Larger clients can have this fee reduced, contact for more details. Thanks, THCG (The Hedge Coin Group) |
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Hi!
Sorry for the late response! We were away for the holiday season! We stated before in the thread that our photographer backed out of the photo shoot and have currently been busy dealing with other business details with regards to the facility.
We have decided that our photos currently are adequate enough until we fill the facility up more, which will most likely be around February. We do not see much point in having photos taken of an empty facility and would much rather show a filled up facility!
We will get a photo up with our company name, the date, and our handles for reddit and bitcointalk up soon though.
If you have any other questions or concerns let me know!
Thanks,
THCG (The Hedge Coin Group)
Update:
We are changing our policy with regards to import fees! In order to minimize the upfront costs for you guys we will pay for the import taxes until your machines are set up and you can pay with the earnings you get from your machines later!
We also will have shipping done to our warehouse in Mongolia to reduce shipping costs! The warehouse will be used to do QA and QC on all machines we receive to ensure their quality before and after they exit out warehouse.
Thanks,
THCG (The Hedge Coin Group)
Please post picture of the facility as is. After you fill it - post more pictures - will add credibility. And you do not need "professional photographer", just use your cell. Otherwise seems very suspicious (IMO) Hello! Of course! We want to present our facilities in the best light possible. We will have a couple thousand machines in it around Late January/Early Feb. We know that no one would want to see an empty facility, nor would it prove anything, thus we have been waiting. The import costs for 500+ miners must be massive.
We have updated our stance on the import fees! We are willing to absorb the cost of importing and allow you to pay them after your machines are set up or after a month in order to reduce the up front cost for you guys! We are working on a better solution for this but anything dealing with the government tends to be slow. We personally think it is a hurdle, but we are still going to send miners regardless as we know that the ROI will exceed that. Thanks for all your comments and support! We will keep working to become a better company and hope you guys follow on our journey. THCG (The Hedge Coin Group) |
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Hey!
I've sent you a PM with regards to pricing.
Thanks,
THCG (The Hedge Coin Group)
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We have updated the look of our website! We are slowly editing different sections and adding more!
Let us know what you think!
THCG (The Hedge Coin Group)
1, the website became more slow 2, dont use WIX.. 3, any news on the cloud mining? 4, what about my brilliant idea  , i did not get any credit for it :d Hi! Thanks for the feedback regarding our website speed! We recently hired a Web developer, and they seem to have not been that great, which is unfortunate. We will keep trying to update the website to work better! Cloud mining contracts are still in the works! We are getting in contact with more (hopefully better) web developers that can create a website for us too! Thank you for the great idea! Also, the last time I received an email from you regarding purchases, I'm not sure if you got my response. We are willing to do escrow services on small orders of machines (10-20) if you pay for the escrow and we are able to verify escrow conditions etc. Let me know if you're still interested and I hope you had a great holiday season! Thanks, THCG (The Hedge Coin Group) Alright everyone!
A brand new and exciting announcement.
Our Mongolian facility is up and running! We are figuring out last minute logistics such as shipping address right now but everything else is set up.
We will be holding a photo shoot tomorrow so expect photos in a couple of days time!
We will begin contacting individuals to sign their hosting contracts soon! Keep an eye out for the email.
Thanks,
THCG (The Hedge Coin Group)
12 days ago, you promised a photos. Where are they? Hi! Sorry for the late response! We were away for the holiday season! We stated before in the thread that our photographer backed out of the photo shoot and have currently been busy dealing with other business details with regards to the facility. We have decided that our photos currently are adequate enough until we fill the facility up more, which will most likely be around February. We do not see much point in having photos taken of an empty facility and would much rather show a filled up facility! We will get a photo up with our company name, the date, and our handles for reddit and bitcointalk up soon though. If you have any other questions or concerns let me know! Thanks, THCG (The Hedge Coin Group) Update: We are changing our policy with regards to import fees! In order to minimize the upfront costs for you guys we will pay for the import taxes until your machines are set up and you can pay with the earnings you get from your machines later! We also will have shipping done to our warehouse in Mongolia to reduce shipping costs! The warehouse will be used to do QA and QC on all machines we receive to ensure their quality before and after they exit out warehouse. Thanks, THCG (The Hedge Coin Group) |
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With this kind of deal... FUCK ESCROW.... Pay ticket for airplane, and meet each other, and do hand on hand trade, or btc transaction, or wire to wire...Using escrow for that kind of money, and not first checking the gear is CRAZY!!
We agree wholeheartedly. Anybody would be tempted with that kind of money. If anyone else is interested, we are looking to deals of this magnitude and are willing to do the same for everyone. Thanks, THCG (The Hedge Coin Group) |
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Hello, We may be interested in doing such a deal. We have plenty of stock of the machines you are looking for and can work out a deal. If you are interested in having a quote, you can email us at info@thehedgecoingroup.com, or find us on WeChat, we do not have Skype for mobile, so it is harder to get in contact with us through that. We can provide you with our skype and other contact details when you have emailed us on our email. We can provide all of the adequate photos and videos that you require, and we would want you to pay for the escrow. We would also like you to only purchase stock machines, this will limit the amount of time that our funds would be in escrow. This is important because the crypto market is highly volatile and we want access to funds as soon as possible in case anything happens. Our Bitcointalk thread can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2541999.msg25922596#msg25922596Our Website: thehedgecoingroup.com I have talked with our CEO regarding a deal of this magnitude and overall we have decided that it is a little bit risky because we can provide you with the S9's, A4's, D3's, L3+ and we are getting some details with our suppliers about the E10's that we will be getting soon. We realize that escrows provide a protection service, but anybody would be tempted with $500K - $1M. We are willing to do a small escrow deal (10-20 machines) to begin with to establish trust (we will still show photos of all of the hardware you are purchasing). We would prefer that if you want to do this deal all at once, that we meet in our office in Shanghai and conduct a deal in person. We will let you take the entire shipment with you. We can offer assistance on how to ship large orders as well. Let me know if you're interested. THCG (The Hedge Coin Group) |
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We have updated the look of our website! We are slowly editing different sections and adding more!
Let us know what you think!
THCG (The Hedge Coin Group)
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Taking in to consideration the effort you guys are putting in to provign your honesty . I feel you guy's are a genuine bunch. What are the Machines that are currently Available ? and can you give a List of the prices please. And for a web interface for monitoring use these and get someone to customise them for you https://github.com/getminera/minera https://github.com/viabtc/mineragent. Hi, Thank you for you kind words. I will look into the monitoring software that you have linked and get more detailed analysis if this would be okay with scaling as our farms do contain thousands of units. If you would like a quote or an update regarding pricing, I will need you to email info@thehedgecoingroup.com. The reason we do not provide a quote on the website is because we would need to continually update it everyday and since our pricing is reflecting the current market conditions in China, I won't be able to guarantee a price. The only price guarantee we provide is if you put in an order, we will create an invoice for you. This will allow you 24 hours at a fixed price, after which you will have to pay whatever the market rate is the next day (higher or lower, but generally higher). I have taken a look at the website, that is generally used for the purpose of manufacturing. We do not produce hardware, we are mainly a supplier for hardware, hosting and cloud mining. I do not think that these services would adequately provide the feedback the users from this website are looking for. Thank you for all your suggestions to make us a better company. Keep giving us criticism and feedback and we will work to constantly improve. THCG (The Hedge Coin Group) |
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Do you have know of any individuals that are interested in visiting facilities? We currently have a couple of clients looking to visit; however they won't post a review most likely.
this is partialy true, i said i will give u a review and post on the forum, however i said to u could invite (pay for his travel) a rep person here on the forum and he will post the truth about the facility with picture and video. ur company will be the only winner from that. the cost of a fly is like what a miner or half a miner cost  totaly worth it to get dozen of buyer from the forum alone. u could also post this post on the company website as a refference of trustworthy. so yea.. (BY THE WAY I WANT CREDIT ON THIS IDEA xD ) Which facility would you guys be more interested in? The Chinese one or the Mongolian one? The Mongolian one is currently not at a capacity in which we want to show it off as it is mostly empty. The Chinese farm is full and ready to be shown. If anyone is interested in visiting our facilities we will offer the following: - Paid for flight - Accommodation for 1 night - (Maybe) 1 Machine, I will look into the logistics behind this. What we want in return is the following: - A review on the forum & a review on a website Requirements: - Well known on the forums or have a good reputation - Have completed reviews before (Send samples) We will start looking for applicants now. Depending on the facility that people would rather see, our tentative date for flying someone out is January (Chinese Facility) or February/March (Mongolian) Message me if you're interested, here or info@thehedgecoingroup.comThanks, THCG (The Hedge Coin Group) |
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