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Time to immigrate to China for air you can't breathe, water you can't drink, and everyone is a xenophobe... but at least the power is cheap! Are you looking for a new angle for your waffle to come out on top it seems you have nothing better to do? Your waffle just sways to match your argument, if you know a coin is about to be listed in a few days and you can get in on it prior to listing then ok, it's a small gamble but the odds are heavily in your favour as opposed to just trading. Risk to reward of jumping a coin early are far more favourable than your direct gambling at the exchange, in fact, I won't say anymore best you stay in the dark more profit for me.
You sound exactly like adfjuas, another drunk russian? You're gambling. There are plenty of new shitcoins that never turn into anything or even get listed on exchanges. You can do EXACTLY the same thing by prospecting with cryptos, IE just buying them on exchanges, only you wouldn't have sunk thousands of dollars into hardware. Zero day mining has been known about since time began, this isn't new. You win the lottery once, doesn't mean you're going to continually win the lottery. It's not hard to watch BCT for new coins popping up and then just dump hashrate on them and pray that it turns into something big. That's no different then bag holding. And, no, you actually have a monetary value associate with a coin WHEN it's on a exchange, when it's not on an exchange you're literally playing in the dark. It's more risky to mine a unlisted coin then invest in one that's on the market. You have no stats or history to look at. Just as a FYI gambling with zero day mining and unlisted coins != earning $8 a day with a niche coin. Niche coins are listed, but not exploited. You can calculate your profit on them. More waffle, unfortunately for you, you haven't got a clue how to make mining pay, your a one trick pony, but that's good for me. Good news is multiple coins offering 7/8 $ today for the average lazy long post writing donught. I made 18$ per card before electric. Yeah, you're another drunk russian dumbass that just spouts random shit out your ass you can't actually back up. Adding your newbie account to ignore along with Adfje. Keep banging your drum about your $32 a day per 1070. Well done, i will not be backing up anything unless you drop enough coin in a wallet to cover my consequential losses and you don't have that kinda coin. I can't buy 1080tis fast enough right now so thanks for firing out the panic warnings telling the noobs to cancel orders and sell their kit really helps people like me. |
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Are you looking for a new angle for your waffle to come out on top it seems you have nothing better to do? Your waffle just sways to match your argument, if you know a coin is about to be listed in a few days and you can get in on it prior to listing then ok, it's a small gamble but the odds are heavily in your favour as opposed to just trading. Risk to reward of jumping a coin early are far more favourable than your direct gambling at the exchange, in fact, I won't say anymore best you stay in the dark more profit for me.
You sound exactly like adfjuas, another drunk russian? You're gambling. There are plenty of new shitcoins that never turn into anything or even get listed on exchanges. You can do EXACTLY the same thing by prospecting with cryptos, IE just buying them on exchanges, only you wouldn't have sunk thousands of dollars into hardware. Zero day mining has been known about since time began, this isn't new. You win the lottery once, doesn't mean you're going to continually win the lottery. It's not hard to watch BCT for new coins popping up and then just dump hashrate on them and pray that it turns into something big. That's no different then bag holding. And, no, you actually have a monetary value associate with a coin WHEN it's on a exchange, when it's not on an exchange you're literally playing in the dark. It's more risky to mine a unlisted coin then invest in one that's on the market. You have no stats or history to look at. Just as a FYI gambling with zero day mining and unlisted coins != earning $8 a day with a niche coin. Niche coins are listed, but not exploited. You can calculate your profit on them. More waffle, unfortunately for you, you haven't got a clue how to make mining pay, your a one trick pony, but that's good for me. Good news is multiple coins offering 7/8 $ today for the average lazy long post writing donught. I made 18$ per card before electric. |
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I'm at 20$ per card with opensource miner.
xcn? ))) In fact argo (skein) was making good profit as it was pumped Argo was good if you got in the first few days probably was 20$ then. None of those. Sorry guys I can't tell you. The purpose of my post was both to show that even in bad times you can make good profit, and that you shouldn't listen to anyone but everyone. Especially don't listen to bensam and sp_. :-) Well if it's not on Whattomine some people are lost and it's not possible, because if it's true then Whattomine will tell you. I don't think some of you understand how mining works. Mining is a pie, rewards are distributed among all participants. That means the more miners hope on a coin, the less you earn. When people start earning less then lets say about average earnings they switch coins. When they switch coins, they, of course hope on other coins. This means when you're talking about mainstream coins they're a order of magnitude larger then small coins. Lets talk context here. Zcash, just Zcash, none of the other large and mainstream cryptos has 400Mh on it. At 460s per 1070 that's 869,565 1070s. Lets assume on average each user has 3 GPU rigs, that's 18 cards, that's ~48,000 miners. The closer we get to power costs, the more desperate those users get to find new coins that they can mine at profit. That means they will load balance themselves across multiple coins, that's what they do, that's what YOU do. That's just one coin. I don't think you guys realize how close we are to oblivion when we approach energy costs on mainstream coins. Those miners wont switch off their rigs, they'll mine negative and a lot of them will find something, anything they can mine that will earn them more. That makes it much, much, much, much harder to find niche coins that earn you your profit. When profit is up on mainstream coins that means it's much easier to reap profits on niche coins as people get lazy and complacent, like Nicehash miners. When profit goes down, everything dries up, especially now days when we have many more miners then we had say a year ago. That's a lot more eyeballs and a lot more people search for those niche coins. Where you could mine a niche coin for months before, you get days. I mined one for about 9 months last year before it was eventually whored out and now it no longer produces as most people know about it. Coins are generally non-renewable, once enough people find out about it to equalize it with mainstream coins it's dead. It's pretty hilarious that some of you think that mainstream coins have absolutely no impact on your lives, they do, the entire crypto scene rotates around them. I'm at 20$ per card with opensource miner.
xcn? ))) In fact argo (skein) was making good profit as it was pumped Argo was good if you got in the first few days probably was 20$ then. None of those. Sorry guys I can't tell you. The purpose of my post was both to show that even in bad times you can make good profit, and that you shouldn't listen to anyone but everyone. Especially don't listen to bensam and sp_. :-) probably raven i see you were selling 1m in no time at 100 satoshi each or more dunno... Yup and then some people gamble with unlisted coins. That's not profit and not something you can talk about as if that's day to day income. You can just as easily, actually more easily, simply prospect by trading and do the same thing. Are you looking for a new angle for your waffle to come out on top it seems you have nothing better to do? Your waffle just sways to match your argument, if you know a coin is about to be listed in a few days and you can get in on it prior to listing then ok, it's a small gamble but the odds are heavily in your favour as opposed to just trading. Risk to reward of jumping a coin early are far more favourable than your direct gambling at the exchange, in fact, I won't say anymore best you stay in the dark more profit for me. |
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Omisego is one of my favourite coins in the market. I am following it ever since and its quietly coming on top coins list. It is one of the besy buy and forget coins so current time is right time to buy.
$10 is a great price point to get in for those who want to get involved. Don't really agree with that either. Weekly chart doesn't look healthy for neo eth or omg. Quoting dollars here is just betting on bitcoin. If bitcoin keeps going it's realistic omg could hit 5$ since it's 8.7$ right now...I might be interested in a buy back at that kinda flash crash for a short term trade. I am more interested in making long term gains. I am not a "graph magician" so I dont rely on that. 80% of that is complete BS while maybe 20% of the technical stuff might be useful. Understood graphs can be misleading but overlooking the tie between OMG $ price and BTC in a bear market that's dictated by BTC price is a serious flaw in investment/decision making. |
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Just to check I wasn't being unfair because I do understand people can be swayed by negative or positive feedback I checked twitter and they have a hire advert which is how I recommended other devs and I scrolled down a fair way to find no replies to any interested candidates...it's a definite big red flag.
BTW they just tweeted a few hours ago a hiring link : https://omise.bamboohr.co.uk/jobs/They just werent ready, and now they are. That was the link I sent to some guys a month ago that they were advertising a month ago? Edit. I see your taking this seriously enough so I'll continue. Basically they don't release their code, which is OK by me so we need other methods of evaluating what they are doing: - Missing deadlines. - Placing hiring adds but not following up devs which compounds failure of deadlines. Remember this is a fully funded operation that's supposedly up and running. Until I see actual work then this is the markets best sell amongst the top coins. |
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I'm at 20$ per card with opensource miner.
xcn? ))) In fact argo (skein) was making good profit as it was pumped Argo was good if you got in the first few days probably was 20$ then. |
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We might be going back to power break even. Video cards are still sold out everywhere. New miners have no idea what's coming.
Start saving up your wad of cash for the eBay bailouts.
The smart miners were still doing 8$ a 1080ti this week. Hardly panic mode. hi would u share the coin u mine to reach 8$ per 1080 ti a day. im just around 5 or 6. can really need ur help thx! There isn't one, he's a dumbass and if there is it's going to be gone within a day. And yes, when all the mainstream coins are diving close to negative that is most definitely time to worry. In the rare case you have a niche coin that people haven't found, they will, and once they do it'll be gone instantly. More then likely he's just a idiot and can't calculate his profit properly. There are plenty of those around. This whole last month was really weird, cryptos were in decline, but there were tons of miners trying to get into mining. It's not like mining just magically popped out of thin air, it was one of the worst months to get into it, but demand on GPUs is super high and continues even till today, although it looks like the smart ones stopped buying as preorders and in stock models are popping up right now at inflated prices. We aren't going to see GPU prices go back to normal for another couple weeks. I don't think newer miners understand that mining profit chases market prices. If coins are in decline ESPECIALLY BTC you WILL be making less money, not just that, but you will be making a lot less, it just takes time for profits and whole network hash distribution to equalize. There are plenty of GPUs that were bought for mining that are in shipping, haven't been setup, or still aren't mining the right currency, all the while BTC is still receding with no bottom in sight yet. If you have a chance to send your GPUS back I would HIGHLY ADVISE you send them back. Cancel your preorder if you have one. The entire last month and a half has been in decline across all crypto markets. If we hit $5k I'm pretty sure we're screwed. If you buy electricity at $.1kwh, which most of the US does you're going to be going negative. Don't waste your time posting waffle, brown nosing your mates and berating smarter lads than yourself, instead look for opportunities. This whole thread is about charging a fee or a one off cost for quality service which you strongly agree with. Obviously I am not here to share my superior knowledge with chump change such as yourself, least of all free. sp is right the markets closed down even further i managed just a poultry 5.5/6$ a card prior to electric cost the last 24 hours because of increased difficulty and a weaker btc, but that said if I dumped this weeks mining right now I am still at 11.92$ a card prior to electric. What? You don't waste your time waffle (whatever that means), brown nosing (who?), berating smarter (also who)? No shit, do you think I'm the only one looking for opportunities? It's pretty easy to pull random shit out of your ass you don't actually need to back up and chances are you can't actually do that as you don't do it for yourself. Yes. Not sure how that relates to what we're talking about though nor would you actually share it regardless of my 'stance' and if you would you're a idiot. As I'm quite familiar with cryptos you're talking out your ass and if you aren't it's a super small niche that can be easily exploited, which leads back to my original 'it'll be gone in a day if it's not'. I bet you are. You know there are quite a few calculators that are broken, this website https://www.crypto-coinz.net/crypto-calculator/ especially so, showing something like $40 per day for a 1070 mining Bulkwark. It's been broken since it's release and is off by anywhere to 30-50% worse then what you can mine, worst I've seen is 80%. Most coins you can't calculate with a simple difficulty/hashrate/block time/block reward/coin value calculation. That website is a stellar example of JUST that. Either the person who designed the website is an inept programmer, is trying to mislead miners, or never verifies these calculations. Really am tired with arguing with retards around here. Hey look guys, I mined Bulkwark for $40 per day, teehee. Always verify your earnings. I'm at 20$ per card with opensource miner.
xcn? ))) In fact argo (skein) was making good profit as it was pumped XCN has very low emission. Too much waffle in your reply, too many insults, nothing objective. All time wasted that could of been used to leverage on your mining capacity or researching new coin opportunity. This is why it's all doom for you. I quote actual mined quantity, using calculators is just to see what's distracting the masses from good opportunities and selling your modded software. |
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We might be going back to power break even. Video cards are still sold out everywhere. New miners have no idea what's coming.
Start saving up your wad of cash for the eBay bailouts.
The smart miners were still doing 8$ a 1080ti this week. Hardly panic mode. hi would u share the coin u mine to reach 8$ per 1080 ti a day. im just around 5 or 6. can really need ur help thx! There isn't one, he's a dumbass and if there is it's going to be gone within a day. And yes, when all the mainstream coins are diving close to negative that is most definitely time to worry. In the rare case you have a niche coin that people haven't found, they will, and once they do it'll be gone instantly. More then likely he's just a idiot and can't calculate his profit properly. There are plenty of those around. This whole last month was really weird, cryptos were in decline, but there were tons of miners trying to get into mining. It's not like mining just magically popped out of thin air, it was one of the worst months to get into it, but demand on GPUs is super high and continues even till today, although it looks like the smart ones stopped buying as preorders and in stock models are popping up right now at inflated prices. We aren't going to see GPU prices go back to normal for another couple weeks. I don't think newer miners understand that mining profit chases market prices. If coins are in decline ESPECIALLY BTC you WILL be making less money, not just that, but you will be making a lot less, it just takes time for profits and whole network hash distribution to equalize. There are plenty of GPUs that were bought for mining that are in shipping, haven't been setup, or still aren't mining the right currency, all the while BTC is still receding with no bottom in sight yet. If you have a chance to send your GPUS back I would HIGHLY ADVISE you send them back. Cancel your preorder if you have one. The entire last month and a half has been in decline across all crypto markets. If we hit $5k I'm pretty sure we're screwed. If you buy electricity at $.1kwh, which most of the US does you're going to be going negative. Don't waste your time posting waffle, brown nosing your mates and berating smarter lads than yourself, instead look for opportunities. This whole thread is about charging a fee or a one off cost for quality service which you strongly agree with. Obviously I am not here to share my superior knowledge with chump change such as yourself, least of all free. sp is right the markets closed down even further i managed just a poultry 5.5/6$ a card prior to electric cost the last 24 hours because of increased difficulty and a weaker btc, but that said if I dumped this weeks mining right now I am still at 11.92$ a card prior to electric. |
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Omisego is one of my favourite coins in the market. I am following it ever since and its quietly coming on top coins list. It is one of the besy buy and forget coins so current time is right time to buy.
$10 is a great price point to get in for those who want to get involved. Don't really agree with that either. Weekly chart doesn't look healthy for neo eth or omg. Quoting dollars here is just betting on bitcoin. If bitcoin keeps going it's realistic omg could hit 5$ since it's 8.7$ right now...I might be interested in a buy back at that kinda flash crash for a short term trade. |
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We might be going back to power break even. Video cards are still sold out everywhere. New miners have no idea what's coming.
Start saving up your wad of cash for the eBay bailouts.
The smart miners were still doing 8$ a 1080ti this week. Hardly panic mode. |
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Why do I see pretty much all these masternode coins popping up and getting listed on the same exchange? That's the only exchange entertaining them and nobody else. What is especially so different about these new coins that make them standout? Nothing new in the roadmap and devs loosing interest half way through when they have made decent money out of the premine.  The million dollar question then - are you not going to mine off a quick 1k coin and join a shared node on each? If it does happen to be the next serious committed team of devs you'll pay your mortgage off for a week of your gpu power. Luxcoin being a perfect example. Any masternode coin that hits the exchange is worth the initial punt, especially when mining has dropped off. |
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Just to check I wasn't being unfair because I do understand people can be swayed by negative or positive feedback I checked twitter and they have a hire advert which is how I recommended other devs and I scrolled down a fair way to find no replies to any interested candidates...it's a definite big red flag.
They have posted on Glassdoor before, and hired more people after the ICO. They dont have to be hiring all the time. If you are a good developer or a valuable asset, you can simply contact them and they could hire you that way. The just dont have a "hire me" button right now. I dont see it as a big deal, but maybe down the road it will be. That's just not factually correct at all, they are hiring which is why it's all very bizarre and mismanaged. |
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If this coin is in for the long haul go for cryptopia
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Selling 1836 ARGO @ 0.00015 BTC rate.
If you're able to mine at this rate why not hold for Mn? |
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Just to check I wasn't being unfair because I do understand people can be swayed by negative or positive feedback I checked twitter and they have a hire advert which is how I recommended other devs and I scrolled down a fair way to find no replies to any interested candidates...it's a definite big red flag.
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I just sold all my omg to neo and eth. 2018 was supposed to be a big year and I even told three great dev to apply a position with them because they seem to be really serious and great prospect and none got a reply that I know.
Long list of job on website but no one getting a reply that I know about. It is all the warning signal I needed to dump. Time will tell if it was right move.
Considering its a global application, I do think it would be a needle in a haystack situation especially there are tons of good developers and also i do think 2018 would be a good year for OMG since i do think there are good updates to happen in Q2 cause they failed to release the updates in Q1 "wallet SDK". "Tons of good developers?" Love to know where they are and as you've pointed out so kindly: failed to release updates + not following up good devs = makes no sense at all I am only looking at the githubs of both omise and omisego and it is being updated https://github.com/omisegohttps://github.com/omiseevery coin experienced delays in their development and failed release dates but if you have given up on the project and have choosen other coins then good luck on your endeavor. Thanks for the kind words, I should really clarify my position though because I may have not explained myself well enough. I haven't given up on omg I think it's a good project but if they are not performing in a fashion fitting to a good business model, I don't hold is my opinion, there's so many coins out there, the competition is ferocious at the top, especially for good devs. If you're not hiring, in all likelihood you're not expanding/improving at competitor pace. If the situation changes I'd quite like to buy back, but as I see it, I'll be buying back from lower levels unless the market as a whole moves forward and then of course other coins will outpace their ROI and that might be the time to buy. Their missing targets means they need more devs, and there are not "tons of good developers" available for hire, not even close or they wouldn't be missing targets...sell for me. One guys opinion only, could shoot to the moon tomorrow. |
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Logic dictates these should hit the exchange at 2.4 - 2.8$ ?
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I just sold all my omg to neo and eth. 2018 was supposed to be a big year and I even told three great dev to apply a position with them because they seem to be really serious and great prospect and none got a reply that I know.
Long list of job on website but no one getting a reply that I know about. It is all the warning signal I needed to dump. Time will tell if it was right move.
Considering its a global application, I do think it would be a needle in a haystack situation especially there are tons of good developers and also i do think 2018 would be a good year for OMG since i do think there are good updates to happen in Q2 cause they failed to release the updates in Q1 "wallet SDK". "Tons of good developers?" Love to know where they are and as you've pointed out so kindly: failed to release updates + not following up good devs = makes no sense at all |
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I just sold all my omg to neo and eth. 2018 was supposed to be a big year and I even told three great dev to apply a position with them because they seem to be really serious and great prospect and none got a reply that I know.
Long list of job on website but no one getting a reply that I know about. It is all the warning signal I needed to dump. Time will tell if it was right move.
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Is mining this coin profitable? People in discord selling around 0.000012
That's way to low to be profitable in mining? I'm getting 15 coins per day with two 1080ti and that wouldn't even cover the electricity costs ..??
Sounds worrying for anyone who bought Mn. Are you sure of what you saw? |
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