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1  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE 700 TH/s or 8.68 GH/s per share on: April 05, 2014, 05:21:43 PM

From reading previous posts you and bcmine, and just you two, have clearly been singled out as trolls and/or bot owners. I look forward to someone else's attempts at valuing this project, and not just a clear attempt to drive down the price


Oh yeah, we are /sarcasm off.

Once again NUMBERS: Reverse this number fool or give out the bounty!
770 TH in April 25 = 770.000 * 0,008 BTC (FHA cex.io price) : BTC 6180 in Share BTC 0,072

---now  180 TH * 0,011 (cex.io price) : BTC 1980 (value of hardware + hosting --cex.io charges  15% of revenu, peta charges 30% !!!!) in Share BTC 0,025

770 TH in Mai 25 = 770.000 * 0,004 (FHM cex.io price) : BTC 3080 in Share BTC 0,036

Ergo:
Petamine is giving you 4 % dividend a month so you cant compensate the fall of the GHs value by mining or investing in new hardware.

Reverse this number fool or give out the bounty noobie!
1BCmineSNdMnmXo7gjU3YzBYoter7LjXd



They should really add an age requirement for this forum.

You haven't even made sense of the issues I have with your argument, all you have done is highlight your original post in red and demand I pay you. ontop of that your reply about dividends has nothing to do with the valuation process, as the percentage is a result of the valuation and not a product. The only reinvestment value that should be included in the process is the 35% that is reinvested by CryptX each week, but I don't expect you to understand that.

I'm ignoring you as you are clearly here to troll. Either that or you are too stupid to have a valid opinion.


Thanks for your excellent peice of input. My phone autocorrects You're to your for some crazy reason. but thanks, it's always helpful to have someone correct grammar on the Internet.

ignoring is ALWAYS expensive, noobie!

Am I the only person who hasn't ignored you?

I think we should go in your thread and start trolling, see how you like it

You cant go there trolling, because the people will ask you for facts. Facts is not trolling, but hurting and making people nervous. In the way I am anti-social by saying facts, people dont like, but I am not: see the bold.

Question: What Is 'Trolling'? Answer: Internet 'trolling' is the anti-social act of causing of interpersonal conflict and shock-value controversy online. Named for the wicked troll creatures of children's tales, trolling is purposely sowing hatred, bigotry, racism, misogyny, or just simple bickering between others. Trolls themselves are emotionally-immature users who thrive in any environment where they are allowed to make public comments, like blog sites, news sites, discussion forums, and game chat.

You have no facts though. You are a deluded little child who summarises what is wrong with the bitcoin community. I can't believe you beat a million other sperm to the egg
2  Economy / Securities / Re: [Cryptostocks] Big Cactus Mine - Preview & Review of Mine-shares on: April 05, 2014, 05:15:22 PM
Can't make any money on your own?

1) Create a shitty website
2) List it on the securities exchange with the least security and validation
3) Post 'summarys' of bitcoin mining operations that don't actually have any substance
4) find people stupider than you to give you money
5) either run away with their money or lose it

Anyone stupid enough to invest with this guy deserves to lose their money

Don't say you weren't warned
3  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE 700 TH/s or 8.68 GH/s per share on: April 05, 2014, 05:12:20 PM

From reading previous posts you and bcmine, and just you two, have clearly been singled out as trolls and/or bot owners. I look forward to someone else's attempts at valuing this project, and not just a clear attempt to drive down the price


Oh yeah, we are /sarcasm off.

Once again NUMBERS: Reverse this number fool or give out the bounty!
770 TH in April 25 = 770.000 * 0,008 BTC (FHA cex.io price) : BTC 6180 in Share BTC 0,072

---now  180 TH * 0,011 (cex.io price) : BTC 1980 (value of hardware + hosting --cex.io charges  15% of revenu, peta charges 30% !!!!) in Share BTC 0,025

770 TH in Mai 25 = 770.000 * 0,004 (FHM cex.io price) : BTC 3080 in Share BTC 0,036

Ergo:
Petamine is giving you 4 % dividend a month so you cant compensate the fall of the GHs value by mining or investing in new hardware.

Reverse this number fool or give out the bounty noobie!
1BCmineSNdMnmXo7gjU3YzBYoter7LjXd



They should really add an age requirement for this forum.

You haven't even made sense of the issues I have with your argument, all you have done is highlight your original post in red and demand I pay you. ontop of that your reply about dividends has nothing to do with the valuation process, as the percentage is a result of the valuation and not a product. The only reinvestment value that should be included in the process is the 35% that is reinvested by CryptX each week, but I don't expect you to understand that.

I'm ignoring you as you are clearly here to troll. Either that or you are too stupid to have a valid opinion.


Thanks for your excellent peice of input. My phone autocorrects You're to your for some crazy reason. but thanks, it's always helpful to have someone correct grammar on the Internet.

ignoring is ALWAYS expensive, noobie!

Am I the only person who hasn't ignored you?
4  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE 700 TH/s or 8.68 GH/s per share on: April 04, 2014, 07:00:57 PM
Thanks for update. An update every friday works fine for me (even if I check here daily Smiley

Still, some good points, anon29426. 'Delivery ramping up' is really sweet talk - they at bitmine are still not sure when the production of rigs will even start! And that 'coming weeks' timeline is very vague.

If we look at the coins minted, PETA did manage to keep with diff last week(s), it's that btc price drop lowered our divs.

well, the major consensus is btc is probably going to stay in the 400-500 range for a while. so basically were fucked. increasing hosting costs as new machines are added, but the new machines are coming in at such a slow rate that the hosting cost aswell as the difficulty increase is going to kill us. tell me im wrong? please. im tired of following this bullshit blindly.

this prob isn't cryptX's fault, they seem professional. but bitmine are an absolute joke, and our entire business is relying on them most likely for the next couple of months.

we are so lucky the difficulty has slowed, but its starting to ramp up now.

im jumping ship as soon as i can get on my laptop

this project might be going somewhere in a few months when we actually start producing our own hardware, but its not going anywhere in the near future but downhill

please, someone, tell me im wrong. the signs are on the wall as clear as day
5  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE 700 TH/s or 8.68 GH/s per share on: April 04, 2014, 06:32:48 PM
Status update:

- We visited Bitmine last Monday and had a conversation about the ongoing delays. Production remains an issue as they suffer a lot of delays from their manufacturer(s), components that get stuck in customs, etc. It is clear to us that however hard they try and with all good intentions, things will take some time before they really get up to speed. We follow up on their progress each day.

meaning they sweet talked you again and everything is back to where we were. we have received only 20 maybe 30 units from them in the last 10 days even after we were told delivery was ramping up. they are completely incompetent and we are relying solely on them, great. were just as fucked as all there other customers are. and no offense, but who gives a fuck about there intentions? they are either capable of delivering or not, and they are clearly not. they are absolute amateurs. if you have a CPP with them activate it and get the machines elsewhere, otherwise week in and week out they are just gonna feed you BS

- Hardware from reinvestment should arrive by Monday or Tuesday which is currently on its way from Hong Kong.

not news

- We switched mining from Eligius to Ghash.io, this should allow more frequent payouts and additional mining of altcoins (NMC, DVC, IXC). New stats are available here: http://www.peta-mine.co/stats/ . Note that stats are still in Beta

good news

- Last but not least, we will start with the production of our own systems within the coming weeks. We have two working designs and are preparing for full-scale manufacturing and assembly.

"coming weeks" - meaning june if we are lucky.

on another note, we haven't even kept up with the difficulty over the past two weeks which is a joke considering we're still miles away from where we're supposed to be, and still with major issues from pretty much our only supplier, who don't seem to be fixing anything on there end. i see us getting completely pushed out of the market in the coming weeks as the difficulty starts to ramp up, we are so lucky that its been low the last couple of weeks, if it wasn't, then we would have already been pushed out.
6  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE 700 TH/s or 8.68 GH/s per share on: April 04, 2014, 04:47:08 PM
sooo, this 210 we were just talking about?

"Gone With The Wind"

well, at least this new stats system will make guessing dividends a little bit more interesting

i question whether the extra 30 TH/s was CryptX's private machines from this project, probably not, probably just the stats system playing up

on the plus side, trying not to feel too negative, the added merged mining should be good



7  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE 700 TH/s or 8.68 GH/s per share on: April 04, 2014, 01:07:41 PM
Hashing @ 210
With the poor new stats it's difficult to say...

better than no stats, and allot more merged mining. definitively a step in the right direction

and yes, we re hashing at 210TH/s

it looks like they are just playing around with the configuration

FYI, thats nearly a 25% increase in a day.

still only 20 bitmine machines though as im assuming the other 20 our are reinvestment
8  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE 700 TH/s or 8.68 GH/s per share on: April 04, 2014, 12:57:01 PM
Hashing @ 210
9  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE 700 TH/s or 8.68 GH/s per share on: April 03, 2014, 12:38:29 AM
If you are disheartened by PETA and want out but find yourself without liquidity to sell I would be willing to trade AsicMiner shares 1:15 for PETA shares.

15 PETA Shares of yours to 1 AsicMiner Direct share of mine.  I can handle large quantities.

PM if interested, we can work out the details.

Great businessman u are lol I think the ratio is more like 10:1 but what the heck it's worth a shot anyway..

looks like were going to be back to pre-ipo prices before the end of the week. id sell my shares if i didn't buy in at 0.12 Sad

Damnnnnnnnn that's gotta hurt!

it does. its just such a shame. this project looked so good. but im with mikemikemike, however much of a kid he sounds he seems to know his shit inside out, and considering he has been the one trying to keep the faith in this project alive, it says allot that he is going. think i might have to sell at a loss. this could have never been the case if we had better investor relations, but its clear cryptx has some deal with bitmine where they are keeping quite a few machines, i mean, think about it, they dont own any shares, how else are they making money?  Huh

plus, not updating us about the PCB's when everyone is worrying about them just shows they dont care about us

so much money down the drain  Cry

Jeeze guys handle your sh*t. Investing in anything BTC is risky. Production delays have always been the status quo in this space.

I agree that more hardware needs to come online in the mine faster but complaining about it here isn't going to make it happen any faster. It's just going to spread malcontent among the investors and hurt the project.

IMO Peta has done nothing but deliver from the get go. I've never gotten a whiff of scam about this project and I truly believe the managers are doing everything they can to make things happen.

I'm going to continue to hope for a positive update in the future but I also don't see the need of reporting anything if there's nothing significant to report. Transparency can hurt just as much as it can help.

Continuing to hold.

but if everyone asking about the PCBs and cryptx is completely ignoring us, you dont think that sounds like scam? how are they making money? maybe not scam but i dont think they care about us

im going to sleep/ hopefully things look better in the morning
10  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE 700 TH/s or 8.68 GH/s per share on: April 03, 2014, 12:30:02 AM
sounds like fud to me, at this stage I'm expecting a further update from cryptx soon, our last one was quite recent. To throw in the towel due to a misunderstanding over monday's is fairly dramatic. And to say "giving up on life" but to say you are calm is confusing

i dont think he was speaking litarally about the whole giving up on life bit, just think peta. and yeh, does seem a little dramatic, but i guess it was just the last straw

it is only one person, but the consistant drop in share price over the last two months doesnt lie Sad

do you think he is serious about selling all those shares?

this sucks  Sad
11  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE 700 TH/s or 8.68 GH/s per share on: April 03, 2014, 12:02:48 AM
If you are disheartened by PETA and want out but find yourself without liquidity to sell I would be willing to trade AsicMiner shares 1:15 for PETA shares.

15 PETA Shares of yours to 1 AsicMiner Direct share of mine.  I can handle large quantities.

PM if interested, we can work out the details.

Great businessman u are lol I think the ratio is more like 10:1 but what the heck it's worth a shot anyway..

looks like were going to be back to pre-ipo prices before the end of the week. id sell my shares if i didn't buy in at 0.12 Sad

Damnnnnnnnn that's gotta hurt!

it does. its just such a shame. this project looked so good at the start. but im with mikemikemike, however much of a kid he sounds he seems to know his shit inside out, and considering he has been the one trying to keep the faith in this project alive, it says allot that he is going. think i might have to sell at a loss. this could have never been the case if we had better investor relations, but its clear cryptx has some deal with bitmine where they are keeping quite a few machines, i mean, think about it, they dont own any shares, how else are they making money?  Huh

plus, not updating us about the PCB's when everyone is worrying about them just shows they dont care about us, either that or the PCB's dont even exist

i only own 5 shares but thats allot to me. such a shame to see this happen  Cry
12  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE 700 TH/s or 8.68 GH/s per share on: April 02, 2014, 11:25:51 PM
looks like were going to be back to pre-ipo prices before the end of the week. id sell my shares if i didn't buy in at 0.12 Sad
13  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE 700 TH/s or 8.68 GH/s per share on: March 30, 2014, 07:50:50 PM
It could be some kind of a turning point for this project right now - when short-term "investors" are probably jumping out because of the current uncertain situation and long-term real investors, perhaps with also better risk tolerance, are increasing their investments at current cheap rates (both BTC+PETA)... At least I hope so. In long-term, this could mean slightly more stable volatility, as long as anything catastrophic won't happen out there... Does anyone agree

i think its silly for any short-term investors to jump ship. we are just beginning to ramp up delivery to expected levels, CryptX is going to visit bitmine next week so we should get some good news from that, and i think once CryptX has visited bitmine we will get an update on the custom boards. So yeah, on the contrary, i think nows probably the best time to invest.

i am a shareholder though so im slightly biased, but yeah, im holding, and prob buy some more on payday tuesday
14  Economy / Securities / Re: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings on: March 30, 2014, 03:58:46 PM
you don't have a life outside this forum do you? i mean, there is no way you have friends in real life, i'd put money on it, not real friends anyways.

I do and they're all true Scotsmen.


...
also I m a proud onwer of the whole memorandum of association of neo and bee. I m in an office with 3 lawyers. I can freeze there assets any time just show evidence
...

How's that "memorandum of association of neo and bee" working out 4 U?
UR 3 lawyers sue each other yet?
Cheesy

I find it is frequently the case that people behind 7 lawyers can't spell "their".

I still wait for your scam evidence,
the only ones currently getting sue are MPEX for defamation

MP says he'd prefer Bonnie rather than Sue. Could you arrange for him to get Bonnie instead? Thanks.

ahahaha stfu, i posted about four hours before trading closed that neobee was dead. i sold all out days ago. stop kissing MPOE's ass.

Mar 15 salutes you sir. Also includes one of only two forum posts by teh esteemed welder-CEO this MONTH.

The fun part starts when MPEX is going to get so hard sue that the volume it has will not even pay the first day of trial

Good work guys at MPEX defamation and libel and your website owner at the EU? oops

Perhaps your seven lawyers forgot to inform you that trials and civil proceedings are different matters. In any event, allow me to remind you 2011 was also a year, even if you were born last night.

Specifically:

Quote
[18:01:03] shareholder3_ me neither MPEX is doomed big time soon

Ya'know what, fair play. You come across as the biggest asshole on this forum, but that post above calling out neobee weeks before they died was a bold move and on top of that, it looks like you were correct. I have changed my view. I Apologise for my previous posts. I quite like assholes when they are correct most of the time
15  Economy / Securities / Re: [Cryptostocks] Big Cactus Mine - Preview & Review of Mine-shares on: March 30, 2014, 03:49:42 PM

plus, giving away 'free bonus' dividends out of his own pocket to entice new investors? biggest warning sign you can get

hes just using your money to pump his bots, he's either going to lose it all or run away with your money. i'd rather give my money to a homeless guy in the hopes he wins the lottery and tracks me down to pay me back

It seems quite legitimate to me, to give an incencitive to speed up IPO, if the owner believe in the long term success of his project. Plus, 2 BTC is not worth a lot nowadays Wink

Why would you need to entice customers with freebies if you have a good product?

It's all BS.

Because your product is new and you want to entice people to try it?

Not if your a fund, your dividends as a percentage of your share price is what would entice customers, by giving away free BTC as a dividend all your doing is diluting the figures and making it look like you are performing better than you are. It's a tactic to entice people who don't know what they are doing, not a tactic to entice serious investors.

Don't say you weren't warned.
16  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] PETAMINE 700 TH/s or 8.68 GH/s per share on: March 30, 2014, 03:45:27 PM
Bitmine really need a push. Did they deliver any Rig so far?

Chips are already paid for. At bitmine  Huh
CryptX need to desing and manufacture a PCB. And that seem a big task. Bitmine is doing that since December.

Ahhhh durrrr. My bad. Forgot bitmine were also doing the chips. Thanks!

And yeah, the china situation is annoying, it seems already priced in slightly so the effect if that news does drop should be mitigated, but it seems unlikely, we would have heard from one of the exchanges by now or confirmation from the PBOC

But yeah, fuck knows, I'm also a long way away from china until later this year when I'm gonna go visit for a month, wish I had some Chinese friends, definitely gonna get some so I can get quick translations, being so far behind bitcoins biggest market is a nightmare

AM: AsicMiner - they produce mining chips
17  Economy / Securities / Re: [Cryptostocks] Big Cactus Mine - Preview & Review of Mine-shares on: March 30, 2014, 03:31:10 PM

plus, giving away 'free bonus' dividends out of his own pocket to entice new investors? biggest warning sign you can get

hes just using your money to pump his bots, he's either going to lose it all or run away with your money. i'd rather give my money to a homeless guy in the hopes he wins the lottery and tracks me down to pay me back

It seems quite legitimate to me, to give an incencitive to speed up IPO, if the owner believe in the long term success of his project. Plus, 2 BTC is not worth a lot nowadays Wink

Why would you need to entice customers with freebies if you have a good product?

It's all BS.
18  Economy / Securities / Re: [Cryptostocks] Big Cactus Mine - Preview & Review of Mine-shares on: March 30, 2014, 02:49:05 PM
And older projects having a diffirent shareprice as they were started when btc was 4 times less worth.

Good point, I had not thought of that. Thanks.

this is most likely a scam or a ponzi scheme. please do no intrust this fool with your money, he is not mentally capable of making even the most basic of investment decisions

Why the bashing? Justify yourself or your words are worthless.

look at BCMINE's previous posts, look at the counter arguments that gets put against him, he has no idea what he is doing, i mean shit, look at the 'analysis' he provides, its at a kingergarden level.

plus, giving away 'free bonus' dividends out of his own pocket to entice new investors? biggest warning sign you can get

hes just using your money to pump his bots, he's either going to lose it all or run away with your money. i'd rather give my money to a homeless guy in the hopes he wins the lottery and tracks me down to pay me back
19  Economy / Securities / Re: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings on: March 30, 2014, 02:41:11 PM
...


UR adorable

@velacreations:thekekk:  TaT quits, trading stops, was an obvious con from the start -- what else do you want?

The amusing thing about scams is rubes keep demanding moar evidence.  See Labcoin.  See Active Mining.  See every scam.

@anon29426:  I'm only the messenger.  You are directly responsible for the pathetic predicament you find yourself in now.  If you wish to spread the blame, I guess Danny could be seen as somewhat responsible.  But it's mainly you yourself.  Personal responsibility -- learn it.

ahahaha stfu, i posted about four hours before trading closed that neobee was dead. i sold all out days ago. stop kissing MPOE's ass.
20  Economy / Securities / Re: [Cryptostocks] Big Cactus Mine - Preview & Review of Mine-shares on: March 30, 2014, 12:12:32 PM
this is most likely a scam or a ponzi scheme. please do no intrust this fool with your money, he is not mentally capable of making even the most basic of investment decisions
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