I can assure you that few users are from the following list of yours:

Hi guys,

After receiving some advice from trusted and experience BTC talk members, it has been decided that there will be one last release of information from sportsbet.io

A couple of senior members have offered their time to review the case. I appreciate them reaching out to us and I full agree to submit them the information that we have on hand.

They will delibirate and make a decision. From that point on, the matter will be finalised either way.

I appreciate the support we have receieved from some members, and im not surprised by the childish, reptitive, boring and lazy reaction of a couple of people on this thread. there is no doubt that those negative users do not have the best interests of BTCTalk threads at heart and are just trying to cash in some way. Please avoid them for your own sanity.

The majority of the BTCTalk community have been instumental in our growth here at sportsbet.io and we continue to have you on board in the very far future!

the last submission of this case will start in the next short while, please be patient and wait for the senior members of this forum to make a decision on the matter.

All the best guys,

regards,

Steve.
sportsbet.io

LOL!
I hope we do get accused of nepotism :-P

To all who are in this conversation, I did not know where neymarjr12 was from, until now :-D

How does opposing the flag make me a hypocrite?

I would be a hypocrite if I said "I think Sportsbet is cheating neymarjr12" and then I opposed the flag.

What it boils down to is, as things currently stand, I take their word over neymarjr12's. However, if more evidence were to manifest itself in favor of the accuser or against Sportsbet, then I could withdraw my opposition or potentially even support the flag. This seems highly unlikely, partially based on what the wording of the flag entails, but I remain open minded on the subject.

Hello! I deposited 70eur to my account and got 370eur after some winnings. After I tried to withdraw for the first time ever and got my withdrawal rejected. I was asked to complete KYC procedure. I sent my local (Russian) passport and bank statement. After that I was asked to complete KYC using Veriff, where I took a picture with my international passport. After a few days security department asked me if I have any other account, which I actually just do not need. After I answered and waited some more days they asked if I know some other players and sent me their accounts (nicknames), which I saw for the first time because I didn’t know any other guys who use their service. After I answered they told that i am trying to launder money and that they will only send my deposit back. I am really angry because they blocked my account and I didn’t receive my winnings! HELP ME PLEASE!

Good job. Flag supported.
For visibility would you add the flag link in your main topic post?
Add it at the end with some the text link:

Flag created: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2171



Good luck again.

Good to get your response. Sorry that your case has not been responded by sportsbet.io yet but hopefully Steve gives his input soon.

This look better now. For some strange reasons first time someone had to give his amount in a different fashion but yes we can not complain now.

1. Go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=832366
2. Check 2nd radio box.

We call this type -2 flag.

Then follow the instruction and use this topic link ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263445.0 ) for the reference of the flag before hitting the confirm button at the next page.

Good luck.


If you have problem with sportsbet scammed many then please make a different thread about it and keep trolling your issues. Please not here. When I see your post I feel annoyed. And I am 100% confident that a lot of others do feel the same. Stop trolling and annoying the contributors of this topic.

What's up with neymarjr12?
I see he was online but did not admit me, asche and others yet. Is he banned or something else?

@neymarjr12 can you https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263445.msg54880848#msg54880848
And also create a new flag and this will be type 2.
My stupidity that I was suggesting you to create a type 3 earlier.

I messaged Steve & told him he’s going to have to do more to satisfy some people on this by the way.

Edit - Just looked, he hasn’t been online since 7am ish so he won’t have seen my PM yet.

@neymarjr12 do you mind changing the amount scammed to the difference between what they are offering and the full amount? .271 BTC if I'm not mistaken?

Whether it's in the Terms of Conditions or not, general "no multiple accounts" rules punish players more often than anyone looking to abuse the actual site. Rather than target a symptom of a problem (i.e. multiple accounts from promotion abuse) they could just simply leave it at "don't use multiple accounts to abuse giveaways and promotions". The sweeping general term lets them do shit like this. What if a player, in one situation, comes back to the site after a year forgetting their previous account details? How about if they lose access to the password and email of an account? Any number of scenarios could be arbitrarily created, but that's not the real point: it's ToS like this, like the rollover requirements that some casinos use to "prevent money-laundering".

Masquerading as rules to prevent abuse against a minority of players, they in turn are used against every player.

https://sportsbet.io/about/terms-and-conditions


Seems quite clear to me. Is it fair? Maybe not. Is it lawful? I don't know - talk to a lawyer. But I don't think you have a case for a type 3 flag here on this forum.

"Sportsbet.io prides itself on its secure and trustworthy betting service^[1], with withdrawal times of around 1.5 minutes^[2]- amongst the fastest in the industry!"


[1] How can a casino be trustworthy if they don't pay their player's winnings?
[2] OP's winnings didn't arrive in ~1.5 minutes. How long it has been now?

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failing kyc and multi accounting isnt good enough for you apparently

But that's the written contract referred by the flag that points to this thread. If Sportsbet broke the law then the OP can sue them but as far as trust system is concerned we shouldn't be saying that a written contract has been violated when we disagree with the terms of the contract. Lots of deals conducted on this forum may be not 100% lawful in all jurisdictions (shark loaning for example) but we have come to a consensus, or so I thought, that we still treat them as contracts for the purposes of the flag system.


IIRC Livecoin flag is type 2 (implied contract).


You have a Sportsbet account, I don't. Enlighten us.

I'm not ok with KYC and anti-multi-accounting rules in general and I've already stated so earlier in the thread. That doesn't mean there is a written contract violation here.


Not the point. According to the T&Cs you presumably agreed to, you shouldn't be claiming that they violated a written contract unless there is some separate contract that you signed. Is there?

You look good, taking your vitamins daily?

Assuming you have a problem with me saying that there is no written contract violation - the written contract (T&C) says that multiple accounts are not allowed and it doesn't require Sportsbet to post proof publicly. If you sign an unfavorable contract I don't think you can claim it was violated when things don't go your way... unless the contract is unlawful perhaps, but I doubt that's the case here.

Clearly, they selectively decided to block his account and now they're doing their utmost to protect their stance because any other stance would shed bad light on their operation.

This whole business is really silly.  Who's to say the documents aren't stolen and have been passed around?  How would any one on neymarjr12's list be able to determine that?  @Royse777, would you accept this users documents in lieu of collateral for a loan?  If not, then they shouldn't be enough to condemn a legitimate business.

@neymarjr12, I know you've repeatedly said that you've done nothing wrong, but forgive my skepticism.  I couldn't help but notice your English is fairly good.  Are you sure you didn't violate their TOS?  Lets assume your documents are legit, are you from one of the countries highlighted below?

I’m dunno how I’m qualified for making a decision on this, the other 2 guys with all respect to them are the only two (with any reputation) supporting the flags.

Not really sure where this goes from here but on second thoughts I dunno if this random poster verification on anything is going to work.

I don’t think sportsbet are going to give out sensitive information because they could get into a lot of trouble for that.
Instead, he's been advised (multiple times) to use a 3rd party arbitrator.

It’s not industry standard to involve forum members so I guess that’s the case here too. Surely it’s up to AskGamblers?

OP I have few questions if you don't mind.

1. When did you create your Sportsbet.io account, what date exactly?
2. Are the deposits listed in the first post your only deposits, and what is the total amount deposited on June 21, 2020?

Bro. This really isn't necessary and you should be very careful who you give this info to. You might even have people pop up out of nowhere asking you for this now. The last person in your list is a bought account that is being used to stir up drama among different casinos (not just sportsbet) and probably doesn't have the best intentions in mind.

I don't understand how this is going to help. Maybe somebody is an expert at digital forensics and can verify if a document is legit or not, but then what? That doesn't necessarily disprove multi-accounting.

It's better to wait for additional clarification from Steve or another official Sportsbet rep on this situation.

I don't think Sportsbet would risk sullying their reputation on the forum for 0.3 BTC unless they strongly believed they were in the right.