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I've Spent the last 2-3 years paying back clients working 2 jobs and running a security business and to date ive paid back 95% of outstanding AUD accounts to my clients and the other 5% being in my opinion Scam artists.... the bank still retains my funds to-date.
I was registered at WBX, you have the scan of my national ID card, I never received any outstanding AUD wires, you did not reply to my mails. I'm a respected member of this forum, noone ever accused me of scamming, I offered any document you could possible need. (Offer still valid) I did not receive any AUD from you, so let me say it diplomatically: I have doubts on the above statement. Still waiting for your ID? |
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Andre despite your very poor "support" I still used your exchange because *I wanted to try and see how this might work out* (and I was accused later by *goat* of somehow being your "partner in crime").
I lost money from an AUD deposit that never *appeared* (around the time your business was failing) and never complained as I managed to convince my own bank to *refund* me (it helps when you have had a long term relationship with your bank).
You have *burned your bridges* here a long time ago and I think it would just be best to "let the past be the past" and *move on* (the rest of us have I think).
(btw - I think MPOE-PR got perma-banned so you probably don't need to worry about "it")
I can officially say you were not involved with my company or in any way associated with me at any time. Fair enough, i can agree i have stuffed up and will move on but i wont stop in promoting bitcoin. Thanks Andre |
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Address to All WBX and bitcoin supporters.
I would like to start by saying "I'm very sorry for not communicating on the forums" simply because i was instructed not to by my "lawyers", yes i will admit it has been over 2 1/2 years since the site went down and i was robbed by my bank (at the time) i would like to take this opportunity to set a few things straight.
The reason why i stopped Trading through WBX is because my bank (sorry i can't name the bank for legal reasons) had put a hold on my bank accounts. this stopped the flow of AUD to my Clients and put a lot of pressure on me. thus putting the fiat side of the business at risk, at the time i processed only 50% of the bank withdraws that were coming through to the site with my own personal funds and the other 50% went unpaid for 2 years simply because i run out of money.
I've Spent the last 2-3 years paying back clients working 2 jobs and running a security business and to date ive paid back 95% of outstanding AUD accounts to my clients and the other 5% being in my opinion Scam artists.... the bank still retains my funds to-date.
I then started to receive threats from various people because they hadn't received their bitcoin back, which then i came to the realisation that i didn't want to put my wife and three kids at risk and decided to pack up and move from Gold Coast back to Melbourne deciding to close down my wifes two hair salons and my Security business as you would all know from this forum.
From day 1 the bitcoin was always secured by Chris (dooglus) both online and offline for security reasons and i can honestly say and chris will back this up.....i had no control over where it was stored (i only knew the address it was stored under) even to the point of not having access to withdraw the BTC, (as you are all aware of) once i had all AUD seized from me by the bank i became increasingly worried for the BTC that Chris would run off with the funds, so i requested the BTC back on several occasion even to the point of threatening him. (which i now regret as he has done the right thing in repaying at least majority of BTC) also i have not asked or received any BTC from chris since this has happened.
I was approached by another exchange in Australia to buy a share in WBX and i agreed this investment would have helped fund the pay back of all my clients on WBX also this person requested a few changes to the site eg: making it anonymous again, but before I signed off on the deal some of my client that lossed AUD on my site were not receiving AUD on his exchange (which most of you would be aware of cryptoX) so i cancelled the deal.
A few weeks ago i reached out to Chris to help with the exchange again and had no reply? also apologizing to him with no reply?, until i read the forums and found he did receive the email and posted it here. The reason i want to give WBX a go again is i believe in bitcoin like most of you in the forums and Australia needs it also i've been approached by investors to restart WBX this is why i need the help. personally i've got nothing to hide and on occasion you can find me at the Melbourne bitcoin Meetup if you want to approach me for any reason i'll be happy to meet you.
"Chris publicly i just want to say i'm deeply sorry for what has happen in the past and you are a genuine bitcoin supporter/developer and would hope we can move on"
Any questions i am happy to answer to a certain degree.
Kind Regards
Andre
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I suppose it's time for you to get a scammer tag.
One more thing, why are you still advertising your "exchange" in your signature?
sorry to offend you i have now removed them Andre |
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Hi All,
I would like to remind you all that i was advised by my lawyers to reframe from making any comments in public, this is why i have kept silent until now i am very sorry and it was frustrating for me watching my personal details get posted by users here, some also have mentioned my family which Im not at all happy with you wouldn't like it if i posted your personal info here. ( remember I have your personal info)
Thanks Andre
Say what? First you comment that you cant afford having lawyers represent you then you post that your lawyer advised you to refrain from making comments? Right thats why I'm commenting on stupid comments like this. Andre Ah I see, being a scammer gets to make you cocky right? Bahahaha I hope someone actually goes through and take you to the cleaners, these activities is disease ridden filth. I have already been taken to the cleaners, so i don't know what your going on about?? its people like you that make me want to leave this forum and not come back.....but everyone looses then, thats why I'm sticking around. |
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Hi All,
I would like to remind you all that i was advised by my lawyers to reframe from making any comments in public, this is why i have kept silent until now i am very sorry and it was frustrating for me watching my personal details get posted by users here, some also have mentioned my family which Im not at all happy with you wouldn't like it if i posted your personal info here. ( remember I have your personal info)
Thanks Andre
Hi Andre, All of the personal information on you that was posted was already publicly available (as opposed to the personal info you have on us). If your website had the correct company and contact details, we would not have had to go digging. Could you please PM me your current business address (in Qld, not old one in Vic) for further correspondence on this matter. The information was correct all along [/quote] I truly and deeply feel for the stress you are going through with this, but in my opinion the fact that you have been defrauded does not give you the right or excuse to defraud legitimate users of your exchange. Regards. [/quote] We have both been defrauded, if i had the money to repay you i would but i don't please accept what chris is offering he holds whats left of WBX. Understand |
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Hi All,
I would like to remind you all that i was advised by my lawyers to reframe from making any comments in public, this is why i have kept silent until now i am very sorry and it was frustrating for me watching my personal details get posted by users here, some also have mentioned my family which Im not at all happy with you wouldn't like it if i posted your personal info here. ( remember I have your personal info)
Thanks Andre
Say what? First you comment that you cant afford having lawyers represent you then you post that your lawyer advised you to refrain from making comments? Right thats why I'm commenting on stupid comments like this. Andre |
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You might want to contact Andre's lawyers before making any refunds and get something in writing from them authorising you to do so and outlining the return process (ie, whether everyone owed money will get a percentage of their account balance paid out as BTC or whether people whose accounts show a BTC balance will be paid out in full and those who had dollar balances will be SOL).
That's a good idea. Andre, do you have any comment regarding this? I read above that you no longer have lawyers, so I guess it's entirely up to you how you want me to refund the BTC to your customers. I think your suggestion of using the outdated database backup is unworkable, since that would result in sending the wrong amounts out. Would the last log on the statement help chris? This is all i could get sorry 08:40pm 22-Feb-12 1559 Withdraw 21.4377 BTC 11:22pm 22-Feb-12 1018 Create voucher: 1.00 AUD 11:23pm 22-Feb-12 1018 Redeem voucher: 1.00 AUD 09:29am 23-Feb-12 1440 Withdraw 100.0000 BTC 12:24pm 23-Feb-12 1273 Withdraw 4.6568 BTC 01:58pm 23-Feb-12 1273 Withdraw 12.0000 BTC 08:09pm 23-Feb-12 1544 Withdraw 14.2607 BTC 10:02pm 23-Feb-12 1505 Withdraw 28.2348 BTC 10:32am 24-Feb-12 1018 Withdraw 50.0000 BTC 10:46am 24-Feb-12 1294 Withdraw 40.0000 BTC 11:25am 24-Feb-12 1440 Withdraw 35.4539 BTC 06:06pm 25-Feb-12 1171 Withdraw 12.4598 BTC 02:29pm 29-Feb-12 1429 Deposit 0.4100 BTC 03:22pm 29-Feb-12 1126 Withdraw 40.4835 BTC 02:42pm 05-Mar-12 1206 Withdraw 21.5360 BTC 09:30pm 05-Mar-12 1300 Withdraw 42.5281 BTC 01:45am 08-Mar-12 1364 Withdraw 100.0000 BTC 10:45am 08-Mar-12 1429 Withdraw 0.5000 BTC 10:46am 09-Mar-12 1364 Withdraw 100.0000 BTC 10:17am 12-Mar-12 1364 Withdraw 100.0000 BTC 05:07pm 13-Mar-12 1364 Withdraw 100.0000 BTC 01:05pm 14-Mar-12 1364 Withdraw 62.9782 BTC 10:09am 21-Mar-12 1018 Create voucher: 1.00 AUD 10:10am 21-Mar-12 1018 Redeem voucher: 1.00 AUD 11:43am 19-Apr-12 1006 Create voucher: 497.33 AUD 11:48am 19-Apr-12 1018 Redeem voucher: 497.33 AUD Andre |
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Who currently has control of the site? If you put me in touch with them, I can tell them how to get me the information I need to pay people back. If it's Intersango/Bitcoin Consultancy then they need to make that public. That's very unlikely. The Bitcoin Consultancy made the Intersango (version 1) code open source, and WBX used that source code. Other than that, the Bitcoin Consultancy is in no way related to WBX as far as I know. No bitcoin consultancy dose not own WBX. |
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Hi All,
I would like to remind you all that i was advised by my lawyers to reframe from making any comments in public, this is why i have kept silent until now i am very sorry and it was frustrating for me watching my personal details get posted by users here, some also have mentioned my family which Im not at all happy with you wouldn't like it if i posted your personal info here. ( remember I have your personal info)
Thanks Andre
Hi Andre, All of the personal information on you that was posted was already publicly available (as opposed to the personal info you have on us). If your website had the correct company and contact details, we would not have had to go digging. Could you please PM me your current business address (in Qld, not old one in Vic) for further correspondence on this matter. I truly and deeply feel for the stress you are going through with this, but in my opinion the fact that you have been defrauded does not give you the right or excuse to defraud legitimate users of your exchange. Regards. Interesting that Andre claims that the database has been erased but also claims to have users' personal information. Hi There I said i don't have full control of the site at no point did not say never had access to the data store. but thanks for your input. Andre |
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I have a backup from before you locked me out.
I don't have any recent backups, since I no longer have access to the database server.
User balances have changed since my last backup.
Who currently has control of the site? If you put me in touch with them, I can tell them how to get me the information I need to pay people back.
Hi Chris Please use the data base you have as i have been advised the current database has been erased this happened last week. Andre |
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Hi All,
I would like to remind you all that i was advised by my lawyers to reframe from making any comments in public
Thanks Andre
What I'm trying to work out is who I can contact to get information. You say it's the bank and banking ombudsman, and refer to what your lawyer said, but then say it's out of your hands. If the banks have taken "it all", how much, what's their process for the claim. The wall and exclusion isn't helpful, therefore, there needs to be someone I can deal with (or have my lawyers deal with). Again, in the absence of any better resolution, I can just throw this to a collection agency. Patrick Again post your lawyers details here so i can contact them. Andre |
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4. Yes i locked you out as i had to minimise further risk to the Exchange Database and code, sorry Chris its nothing personal i am just protecting my self and WBX client information.
OK, I thought you must have. Just so you know, I have backups of the site from shortly before you locked me out. As you know, the hosting company hasn't exactly had a good track record of looking after the server themselves, so I regularly made offsite backups. That includes encrypted backups of the exchange's bitcoin wallet. The wallet has a large keypool, so I will have access to any funds that are deposited into the exchange wallet for some time to come. To properly minimise risk to the exchange I would advise you to transfer the remaining funds from the exchange wallet (less than 1 BTC I think) then start from scratch with a new wallet. I also still have admin access to the WBX site, so can see client information. Disable that by setting "is_admin" to 0 for my row in the users table: UPDATE users SET is_admin=0 WHERE uid=1001; or use the web interface to the database. Hi Chris, You do have backups right? Thanks Andre |
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Andre, when you want me to pay out the remaining bitcoins, please take down the site to prevent further trading of balances between users who have apparently been trading their WBX balances between themselves using "vouchers", then send me a final database dump so I know how much to pay everyone.
Since you revoked my admin account I've been unable to see user balances, so currently have no idea how much each person is owed.
I'll set up a claim site so users can log in with their OpenID and specify a bitcoin address for me to refund the coins to.
Thanks.
Hi Chris I have no control over the exchange site any more i do recall you doing a database dump when this all happened do you have those files? Thanks Andre |
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Hi All,
I would like to remind you all that i was advised by my lawyers(insert: when i had money) to reframe from making any comments in public, this is why i have kept silent until now i am very sorry and it was frustrating for me watching my personal details get posted by users here, some also have mentioned my family which Im not at all happy with you wouldn't like it if i posted your personal info here. ( remember I have your personal info)
Thanks Andre
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And in the links down the right hand side, where it says "news what's new", etc., it's all bold. It used to be that the "news" was bold and the "what's new" subtitle wasn't.
This is just weird. What's going on?
Hi All I no longer have full control over the exchange site, a update on the recovery of all exchange member funds, recent correspondence with our banks and the banking ombudsman is the bank is entitled to hold all exchange funds as they were fraudulently taken from bank accounts across the country and deposited into my exchange account, the source of the fraud activity came from Germany a i can't tell you much more than that. This being said Chris has the only funds (assets) of the exchange, they will need to be returned to the exchange members. Thanks Andre I will be online for the next hour to answer any questions I can prove my funds were not fraudulently taken, and simply deposited with you (as you were operating as an individual and not as a company). I have requested, and do so again here, for contact details with your lawyers or other advisers as you are reluctant to provide information directly. You will also note I have issued you a notice requiring you to repay the Australian dollars that you hold, or I will pass the debt to a collection agency as you are personally liable, and the funds involved are not related to bitcoin trading, so easily verifiable. If you consider this hostile, it should be understandable that across this community there is a lot of money at stake, as I am sure you are aware. Patrick Hi PatricK To be honest mate i have no money to pay you the scammers, banks have taken it all, please provide your lawyers contact details here and i will contact them unfortunately i can't afford to have lawyers represent me anymore. Thanks Andre |
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And in the links down the right hand side, where it says "news what's new", etc., it's all bold. It used to be that the "news" was bold and the "what's new" subtitle wasn't.
This is just weird. What's going on?
Hi All I no longer have full control over the exchange site, a update on the recovery of all exchange member funds, recent correspondence with our banks and the banking ombudsman is the bank is entitled to hold all exchange funds as they were fraudulently taken from bank accounts across the country and deposited into my exchange account, the source of the fraud activity came from Germany a i can't tell you much more than that. This being said Chris has the only funds (assets) of the exchange, they will need to be returned to the exchange members. Thanks Andre I will be online for the next hour to answer any questions |
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For your information i did offer chris 5% and he accepted(i can back this up with IM conversation through gmail),
On 28th July 2011 I was offered 5% of incoming commission fees: (09:43:12 PM) andre jensen: hay when i start charging for the services would you be intersted in reciving 5% plus ill pay you for any fixes you do (09:43:32 PM) Chris: sure  (09:43:51 PM) andre jensen: i need someone i can trust and you have shown that (09:44:35 PM) andre jensen: good I proof read for spelling, grammar, and punctuation, not content. After having read the help page I did question the "partnering" text. I think the following made it clear that I didn't want 5% of the business, although I didn't explicitly ask for the text to be removed from the help page. On 2nd August 2011: (05:12:21 PM) Chris: by the way
(05:12:30 PM) Chris: you mentioned giving me 5%...
(05:12:42 PM) Chris: does that include 5% of your losses when someone hacks in?
(05:13:00 PM) andre jensen: no
(05:13:13 PM) andre jensen: of course not ill send
(05:13:29 PM) andre jensen: you something to confim that
(05:13:33 PM) Chris: it's a concern
(05:13:40 PM) andre jensen: yes it is
(05:13:44 PM) Chris: you mentioned on the help page something about "partnering" with me
(05:13:55 PM) Chris: that could be read as I have a 5% interest in the business
(05:14:00 PM) Chris: and so am liable for 5% of any losses
(05:15:54 PM) andre jensen: no i will put in writing that you will not be liable for losses
(05:16:13 PM) andre jensen: my company has forcasted for this
(05:16:28 PM) andre jensen: in the event it dose happens
I never received the confirmation or any kind of a contract and never again heard anything about this "5%" until now. this is why i trusted him to handle a major part of the BTC component of the exchange which didn't give the power of the exchange to one person, he can confirm this ask him.
I understood that holding the site BTC was a temporary measure until Andre set up a more permanent store since Andre's home computer at the time was running Windows. It was never brought to my attention that this was about sharing "the power of the exchange", but rather a temporary measure to prevent the bitcoins being stolen from the shared hosting. On 15th August 2011 I brought up the subject of how it's not a good idea to leave bitcoins on a shared host: (02:46:57 PM) Chris: what do you think about keeping most of the bitcoins off-site? (02:47:10 PM) Andre Jensen: yes great idea (02:47:18 PM) Chris: there are 39 BTC on the site at the moment (02:47:21 PM) Chris: that's like $400 worth (02:47:27 PM) Chris: and that's only after the first day (02:47:43 PM) Chris: it's already well worth stealing... (02:47:58 PM) Chris: the support guy I spoke to said he was having his server guys look into the problem (02:48:05 PM) Chris: any of them could see the bitcoin wallet and take it (02:48:11 PM) Andre Jensen: sure (02:48:27 PM) Chris: I just think it's best not to keep all your eggs in one wallet, as they say (02:48:34 PM) Andre Jensen: yes (02:48:39 PM) Chris: the question is where to keep them (02:49:27 PM) Chris: the exchange software itself is fine with running out of bitcoins (02:49:42 PM) Chris: if someone tries to withdraw, and there aren't enough in the wallet, it just waits until there are enough (02:49:56 PM) Andre Jensen: ok (02:50:36 PM) Andre Jensen: ill come up with a soulution (02:50:50 PM) Andre Jensen: brb (02:51:10 PM) Chris: did you hear about offline 'paper wallets'? (02:51:28 PM) Chris: it's a way of storing bitcoins without a computer, or something (02:51:52 PM) Chris: so they can't be hacked (02:52:22 PM) Chris: http://casascius.com/ talks about it On 22nd August 2011: (08:27:50 PM) Andre Jensen: ive got some key contacts looking
(08:28:04 PM) Andre Jensen: at puting large deposits in the exchange
(08:29:12 PM) Andre Jensen: the BTC is my concern at the moment
(08:31:10 PM) Andre Jensen: so finding a solution would be good
(08:31:18 PM) Chris: you mean getting people to deposit them?
(08:31:21 PM) Chris: or keeping them safe?
(08:31:31 PM) Andre Jensen: keeping them safe
(08:31:34 PM) Andre Jensen: sorry mate
(08:31:50 PM) Chris: I think the solution is to keep the majority of them somewhere you control
(08:32:01 PM) Chris: I don't know if you have a secure system
(08:32:06 PM) Chris: preferably not running Windows
(08:32:20 PM) Andre Jensen: ok
On 29th August 2011 I was asked to hold Bitcoins for the exchange temporarily: (05:11:01 AM) Andre Jensen: mate is your system secure
(05:11:14 AM) Chris: pretty much
(05:11:18 AM) Chris: I only run linux
(05:11:46 AM) Andre Jensen: good can you store half the bitcoin on the exchange
(05:11:52 AM) Chris: I spoke to [deleted] about linking to your exchange today
(05:11:57 AM) Chris: I can
(05:12:00 AM) Andre Jensen: great
(05:12:16 AM) Chris: he said he wanted to wait a few months before linking back to you
(05:12:24 AM) Andre Jensen: just untill i sort out the bitcoin storage problem
On 9th October 2011 I tried again to suggest using a paper wallet for cold storage, but it never happened: (09:58:21 PM) gorkalitus@gmail.com: mate anything you need
(09:59:52 PM) Chris: no, I don't think so
(10:00:03 PM) Chris: thought I do think it's a good idea to do the paper wallet asap
(10:00:16 PM) Chris: though*
(10:00:25 PM) gorkalitus@gmail.com: ok
Thanks for Clearing things up Chris. Andre |
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So telling people withdrawals have been processed when in fact they haven't doesn't reek of scamming/fraud. And asking people for non existent information in order to process withdrawals doesn't reek of fraud either. You sure have a funny definition of logic.
Hi David, Im allowed to answer this one, You received the deposits via Paul Zigoridis account at your request, please give me other times this has happened please again stop defaming my already crap credibility here. Here is the Log: David to myself That's be fine m8 if it's doable on your end. Or I can just give him codes if you'll bump up his limits so it doesn't cause hangs on his end. On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 9:04 AM, WBX Support < support@intersango.com.au> wrote: Hi david, Sent through the funds mate as re quested reference N02112051695 paul has the same bank as I do so he should see it tomorrow. If you want to process more funds will it be done through this method? Andre Support David Owen Morris < morris.davidowen@gmail.com> wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andre, I have an alternative solution for you. Could you please deposit these funds asap into accounts belonging to Paul Zagoridis another customer on the exchange. He's willing to help out on this issue and I've included him in this email. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPNQt0AAoJECuWECqljbocVNkH/2N23tydHPObCWskyQ2z4va0 pl4haNusqYivZob7Hkhh2VwBP0QUlK8VDq74PKQZ8aHlkdr+LvOsSW7U4Sycic1P feey6Ivteb7edjVnU0g/HzeXhijPWgEFys+cBrxyCNhjMnDYBOSrwKq4aO+AylgB GrHZK1vdj8oedaGgc2iXs6V3+y44c9Ef1Sp/h+0boqz3+CCsL22G2eqgoVJg7r2j pRVLd+oXwxkO2wPxSrbO+yvcpCvji2AKaCEOEFiaD85I7EEVkMTGThAZF693jk7n m/yINIJbefo0w/swRL2fz5Utx48gQuiI6NJssx02mDWWBs2VS9H89ZMbkvVZLdM= =PIoh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM, WBX Support < support@intersango.com.au> wrote: mate can you ring me personal number +61412185693 i am away from my office On 10/02/2012, at 11:13 AM, David Owen Morris wrote: Hi Andre, Bank of China have no such thing and have made no such request I've just check this with their head Dalian office. This has worked just fine on prior occasions and should still do so. On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:07 AM, WBX Support < support@intersango.com.au> wrote: Hi david, Mate we have had a problem with transferring the funds to your account your bank rejected the funds, your bank and our bank have requested a "Account Identification Number" we are trying to transfer the funds to your bank in CNY , this will save you on fees on your side and so intermediary bank gets involved, all you have to do is ask your bank for this number so we can try processing it again sorry for the delay mate. Andre On 03/02/2012, at 4:38 PM, David Owen Morris wrote: Thanks m8, That's great news. On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:00 PM, WBX Support < support@intersango.com.au> wrote: Hi mate, We have now processed your withdraw requests sorry for the delay mate, dam banks are causing me a lot or problems. I wont charge you the transfer fee. Andre Here is the Log:Paul and myself I have a deposit of >$1200.00 the details will not be available until tomorrow. Andre can you confirm the amount you transferred to my westpac account for David? Regards Paul On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Paul Zagoridis < paulz@zagz.com> wrote: Thanks Andre I'll look out for it tomorrow (Monday) On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:08 PM, WBX Support < support@intersango.com.au> wrote: Hi paul, I have done a transfer to your account for david owen. Andre |
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Andre I'm glad you resurfaced and answered some questions.
At this point in time I hold you personally responsible and liable for all client funds in the exchange. You no doubt have your own advice on that, however I point out that you accepted deposits and made withdrawals in your own name and from your personal bank accounts. Furthermore you knowingly traded while the company was deregistered.
You have exaggerated or been untruthful on the phone and on the site. One example is Chris is not your "Technical Lead", another is there is not a "WBX Team" behind WBX news - it's just you. Lastly you told me on at least two occasions that my AUD withdrawal had gone through. I am not the only person you said that to.
Your selective response to questions, your extended periods of silence on email and forums, and your refusal to answer phone calls further exacerbate your personal liability in this matter.
I offered you a recapitalization option which you ignored.
Yes you haven't done a runner with the remaining BTC, but you have not been open and honest with your customers and clients. Especially as many of us have a vested interest in helping you sort out the mess with your bankers. Many people can research and pressure the banks to release some of the funds. Unless that too is an exaggeration or untruth.
Even if the worst case is that you've been scammed and intend to earn the money to pay everyone back, the only way to do that is to be honest about the situation.
Do you really want the pain of a fraud investigation or a series of small claims court claims?
For your information i did offer chris 5% and he accepted(i can back this up with IM conversation through gmail), https://www.worldbitcoinexchange.com/?page=help ABOUT US SECTION this statement has been untouched and is it original form from day one chris at no point has asked me to remove it and he also proof read it for me this is why i trusted him to handle a major part of the BTC component of the exchange which didn't give the power of the exchange to one person, he can confirm this ask him. I take your point on trusting what i post here to be an exaggeration or untruthful, i just can't confirm anything until the investigation has completed for me it's now a legal matter that is out of my hands now and i am restricted in what i say here. Finally i got myself in this mess and thank you for offering to bailing me out,(I am no bank and thats exactly who got me into this mess) but id like to fix this myself it's how i work, mate i don't know where exactly you are digging this crap up!!!!!.... but please do some research before you decide to defame my already depleted reputation. I had to respond........it just pissed me off. Andre |
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