I did not start it, Here is 3 post from Troiste that all show his involvement in the creation of it (notice how he says We create, if you delete WE delete)  He is stating that he has control over that thread.

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I don't care, you will be responsible for a BlackCoin 2.0. YOU.

We are already loading our weapons, trust me, we act fast.

Just fire your first shot and you will be dead immediately.

the thread was posted 13 minutes after this one trioste didint even see this one until i posted it in the xlb thread please don't make up garbage you're acting like an idiot now it's FUCKING obvious that you made both threads.

No, you will be responsible. Trust me, I will make sure that everyone knows how this started

Just go ahead and you will see what happens 

well troiste nore anyone involved with xlb is involved with BC v2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=627085.0 since im the one who posted the link in there
 xlb thread and troiste just started posting here so it's most likely you (IF)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=627085.0

You want fight? We give you fight!

shhhhhhh are you crying now??? Keep quiet... you lunch the Liberty 2.0 we lunch the Blackcoin 2.0.

Think wise if you want this, because unlike LibertyCoin 2.0 that will fail miserably, if we create BlackCoin 2.0 we will fight for it and make it on top just like we did to Libertycoin....

So I suggest you to think twice before giving such a step, just an advice, you will digg your own grave

You can stop this war by deleting this post, very easy. But if you want war, we will give you war.

Think wise kid what we did for LibertyCoin in 2 weeks, we can do as well for BlackCoin 2.0, very easy

Obviously you are from BC, you think we are idiots? haha

Why don't you have the balls and show who you really are???

So everybody knows the real name of the guy responsible for the BlackCoin 2.0

You will be famous, trust me.

I don't care, you will be responsible for a BlackCoin 2.0. YOU.

We are already loading our weapons, trust me, we act fast.

Just fire your first shot and you will be dead immediately.

Shhhhhh... keep quiet, I'm not afraid of you piece of shit.

Go ahead, create Liberty 2.0, just try it, you will see what happens.

You can stop this war by deleting this post, very easy. But if you want war, we will give you war.

Think wise kid what we did for LibertyCoin in 2 weeks, we can do as well for BlackCoin 2.0, very easy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=627085.0

You want fight? We give you fight!

Looks like there will be a BlackCoin 2.0 as well

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Just this once I will answer some of your questions NOT to the best of my ability, but enough to clear some air maybe. Just this one because I use my handle, the only one I have, while you are a sock puppet, just to make it clear.
Alright, I will reply to some of your points once since you state you were buying as people sold, but now you can't say that nobody informed you!

Not only the code is copy paste, like the wallet (or close enough, anyway) but it is PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE that it is. Nobody has lied about that from the get go. Specifically Iconic posted clearly the reason why he was joining, the reasons: The name -I doubt you have the capacity to value what's in a name, but a lot is-, and the enormous market opportunity it presented. Not the code. Not the innovations. Just the name, basically. Then he created a very nice logo. And then he made a few promises. It is wayh too soon to believe or disbelieve those promises. A lot of people do.
If it is Public Knowledge how come in the promo material they are using for marketing states Liberty coin as having unique properties and having exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems.  Its false advertising and does that equal Bitcoin 3.0 because they changed the name of hackcoin?  I know the value of a name, but just because I call my Nissan a Bentley it doesn't change the fact that its still a Nissan.  He also made statements about goals that were to be accomplished and they were time sensitive and deadlines were not met; Making him a liar.
Actually what it makes is you very poor at establishing similarities. A car brand is associated with performance and a prestige that comes from many years and accomplishments... nothing to do with cryptos at all. Besides, the deadlines are invented by you, never existed and no promises were made. IF they would have been, it would be the dev failing those deadlines, not IE. But I'll give you a deadline close enough: Tomorrow, in the US, but worldwide the event, two important and promised (by IE) innovative features, are being released... in keeping with the promises of innovation and singularity. Of course you will find a way to try to taint those too. Good luck with that!
So according to you in Cryptos innovation and development don't matter its all about the name.  Please, what a joke.  They promised the first anonymous POS coin, they did not deliver.  They promised press releases those have been pushed back.  Read thorough his post, proof is in the pudding

Now, the most important thing is that you claim that, because you were scammed by 24 Hash, there was a conspiracy behind it. But you prove nothing of that short. That's absurd hearsay, or FUD as it were. If it is true and the devs were in cahoots with 24Hash, you will need to prove it, sorry.
Iconic has a history of making the same claims without as much circumstantial evidence and yet you seem to believe the guy has god like powers when it comes to marketing.
Because the marketing wisdom of IE has been corroborated and accepted by everyone, even his most redundant enemies and people that dislike, like me, some of his methods. No one questions his marketing abilities, no one.
No it was actually questioned by quite a few, the multipool and coinkite had a lot to do as well as 1000 community members, not just Iconic that's a FACT

You don't know who the dev is, but most people with half a brain does. I know his handle, his deeds -and there are many, of all kinds- and also his real name, nationality and geographical location. I had to investigate quite heavily to come up with the same referred to you "don" of BC and it's Black Hand. I have found no evidence whatsoever, so far, of any organized group acting in cahoots with the dev of Libertycoin. Furthermore, the biggest wallet in XLB has just about 400k coins... yes you have charged that it has been spread in hundreds of wallets, that's hard to believe and relatively easy to demonstrate soon enough in the future if the community so decides . In any case, just conjecture on your part.
How would you know what I know?  Also you cannot see the amount of coins that people keep stashed on exchanges.  It would surprise you!  You also know that Iconic expert refuses to share even one of his many wallet balance as he doesn't want anybody in the community to see if he is dumping or not.
You posted yourself that no one knows who the dev is ? No it would not surprise me to know the amount of coins stashed at exchanges because, well, there's the blockchain, you see. You can see what is where. And there's no more than 450k stashed on ANY wallet, including those at the exchanges.
When did I ever say I don't know who the dev is, please quote it in my post.  Making stuff up to support your arguments won't work!

All those questions have a single answer: Iconic Expert. He has taken the FULL responsibility for those things. No need to look anywhere else. If he doesn't deliver, his reputation will be ruined. Fair enough? As you and other reading this well know, I don't like the guy personally and find some of his ideas preposterous, dangerous and counter-productive. And I find Troiste probably the individual most lacking class under the stars, but, a) IE has a lot of ideas and some of them with a lot of merit... enough to propel BC to 95 and more than enough to have taken XLB to 20 in 10 days. Those are facts whether you like the guy or not. As for Troiste, by luck or whatever, he FOUND Libertycoin. To Caesar what is Caesar's. I deplore as much as anyone the hookers idea that I have termed "Soepkip pants of XLB" myself. What's true is true. End of that story.
I can't believe you actually give the guy the entire credit for the blackcoin run to 95, they had a massive community a talented dev and a heap of other people working on it as well,  Also almost every single coin gets pumped at one time or another so correlation isn't always causation.

So, to sum it up, unless you prove the 24 hash scam had anything to do with the devs of XLB, I am going to call that what it is: Bullshit.
ALL THE REST of your questions, have the same answer: Iconic Expert. For good, bad or in-between. Believe or do not believe, up to you. He IS Liberty coin. He has publicly assumed that responsibility.
Your answer sounds like Those questions are to hard/bad for Libertycoin so I am just going to say IE
You mistake "hard" with "stupid"... in keeping with your shortcomings about establishing similarities. It's meant to read that if IE doesn't deliver on those things, like he is delivering in a few hours, it will be his considerable prestige on the line. But make no mistake about it -read them aloud for reassurance- they are stupid, very stupid considerations/questions.
Ya its pretty stupid to ask why a lot of people lost their coins, its pretty stupid to ask why the make factless claims to trick newbies, its pretty stupid to question people who only tell you to buy, post pictures but never give you any information.  That's pretty stupid better just hand them all my money

Now, keep the FUD if you like, but there's nothing tangible on your side of the net. Sorry but, like everyone else, you will need to wait to be able to colled shit. Otherwise, just a handle and an individual that everyone knows who he is and where he lives.

I hope I have satisfactorily answered all your questions.
Well your answer wasn't a real answer so no

Edit to add: The charge about only 3.5 days initial PoW mining, what do you expect? only 16.5 million coins. When they run out, they run out. It depends on the hashing power thrown at it, you should know that...
Hahaha what a comedian, Its called block reward and block time; you cant think of one coin that has been going since 09 hmmm only 12.9 million coins mined so far.  Its an instant mine, designed so that if a coin takes off a few people get rich and is the bread and butter of shit pump and dump clone coins

There's humor in it, of course. I repeat: Libertycoin is IE's coin as far as I am concerned. Before he came on board, I can only assume -and you are not helping since you dont seem to be able to audit the blockchain- reasons for some of the circumstances, based on knowledge of the dev and some of his circumstances. But it is an assumption... as valid -actually considerably more so- as your unsubstantiated charges and extrapolations that have been contested by more people than that who has support them.
You think I am deterred because a bunch of Iconics bunch who come here to just trash it but don't answer any questions.  IF anybody can disprove all arguments, not just one then maybe I would be persuaded.  Lots of people don't post as they don't want to get harassed by that crew they will just read and move on.  You claim I don't know how to audit the block chain because I haven't posted my results doesn't mean I haven't

Just this once I will answer some of your questions NOT to the best of my ability, but enough to clear some air maybe. Just this one because I use my handle, the only one I have, while you are a sock puppet, just to make it clear.
Alright, I will reply to some of your points once since you state you were buying as people sold, but now you can't say that nobody informed you!

Not only the code is copy paste, like the wallet (or close enough, anyway) but it is PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE that it is. Nobody has lied about that from the get go. Specifically Iconic posted clearly the reason why he was joining, the reasons: The name -I doubt you have the capacity to value what's in a name, but a lot is-, and the enormous market opportunity it presented. Not the code. Not the innovations. Just the name, basically. Then he created a very nice logo. And then he made a few promises. It is wayh too soon to believe or disbelieve those promises. A lot of people do.
If it is Public Knowledge how come in the promo material they are using for marketing states Liberty coin as having unique properties and having exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems.  Its false advertising and does that equal Bitcoin 3.0 because they changed the name of hackcoin?  I know the value of a name, but just because I call my Nissan a Bentley it doesn't change the fact that its still a Nissan.  He also made statements about goals that were to be accomplished and they were time sensitive and deadlines were not met; Making him a liar.

Now, the most important thing is that you claim that, because you were scammed by 24 Hash, there was a conspiracy behind it. But you prove nothing of that short. That's absurd hearsay, or FUD as it were. If it is true and the devs were in cahoots with 24Hash, you will need to prove it, sorry.
Iconic has a history of making the same claims without as much circumstantial evidence and yet you seem to believe the guy has god like powers when it comes to marketing.

You don't know who the dev is, but most people with half a brain does. I know his handle, his deeds -and there are many, of all kinds- and also his real name, nationality and geographical location. I had to investigate quite heavily to come up with the same referred to you "don" of BC and it's Black Hand. I have found no evidence whatsoever, so far, of any organized group acting in cahoots with the dev of Libertycoin. Furthermore, the biggest wallet in XLB has just about 400k coins... yes you have charged that it has been spread in hundreds of wallets, that's hard to believe and relatively easy to demonstrate soon enough in the future if the community so decides . In any case, just conjecture on your part.
How would you know what I know?  Also you cannot see the amount of coins that people keep stashed on exchanges.  It would surprise you!  You also know that Iconic expert refuses to share even one of his many wallet balance as he doesn't want anybody in the community to see if he is dumping or not.

All those questions have a single answer: Iconic Expert. He has taken the FULL responsibility for those things. No need to look anywhere else. If he doesn't deliver, his reputation will be ruined. Fair enough? As you and other reading this well know, I don't like the guy personally and find some of his ideas preposterous, dangerous and counter-productive. And I find Troiste probably the individual most lacking class under the stars, but, a) IE has a lot of ideas and some of them with a lot of merit... enough to propel BC to 95 and more than enough to have taken XLB to 20 in 10 days. Those are facts whether you like the guy or not. As for Troiste, by luck or whatever, he FOUND Libertycoin. To Caesar what is Caesar's. I deplore as much as anyone the hookers idea that I have termed "Soepkip pants of XLB" myself. What's true is true. End of that story.
I can't believe you actually give the guy the entire credit for the blackcoin run to 95, they had a massive community a talented dev and a heap of other people working on it as well,  Also almost every single coin gets pumped at one time or another so correlation isn't always causation.
So, to sum it up, unless you prove the 24 hash scam had anything to do with the devs of XLB, I am going to call that what it is: Bullshit.
ALL THE REST of your questions, have the same answer: Iconic Expert. For good, bad or in-between. Believe or do not believe, up to you. He IS Liberty coin. He has publicly assumed that responsibility.
Your answer sounds like Those questions are to hard/bad for Libertycoin so I am just going to say IE

Now, keep the FUD if you like, but there's nothing tangible on your side of the net. Sorry but, like everyone else, you will need to wait to be able to colled shit. Otherwise, just a handle and an individual that everyone knows who he is and where he lives.

I hope I have satisfactorily answered all your questions.
Well your answer wasn't a real answer so no

Edit to add: The charge about only 3.5 days initial PoW mining, what do you expect? only 16.5 million coins. When they run out, they run out. It depends on the hashing power thrown at it, you should know that...
Hahaha what a comedian, Its called block reward and block time; you cant think of one coin that has been going since 09 hmmm only 12.9 million coins mined so far.  Its an instant mine, designed so that if a coin takes off a few people get rich and is the bread and butter of shit pump and dump clone coins

I'm not confusing anything. The new multipool also happens to be the first multipool.

iconicfraudster, please address