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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 28, 2023, 01:55:37 AM
Of course my rollbit username is kalmad

Thanks for allowing me time to review this.

This was a clear-cut case of circumventing our sportsbook limits via the creation of another account.

Their initial account was registered Jul 29, 2022 and was subsequently limited Mar 24, 2023.

After this limit was put in place, there was very minimal sportsbook activity.

Their next account, and the account referenced in this thread, was created Jun 1, 2023.

They continued betting on the sportsbook without the limits that should have applied, until once again being flagged by our sportsbook provider.

During our review we discovered that they had been previously limited and therefore the account was locked with any profits forfeited.

Note: we permit users who have been limited to continue, but they must do this via their limited account. Limit increase requests can be submitted via our support.

Both accounts were linked via several data points. Data points that we're happy to publicly disclose include, same device and same withdrawal & deposit addresses.

The profits we deducted were leftover on their balance. Considering both of their accounts, they were still able to withdraw enough to be more than $3,000 in profit.

OP, you would have been fine continuing on the initial account but due to this event we ask that you do not open further accounts here. Thank you.

very funny . you're telling it with the water running down your mouth as if it's been cheated.  there are no fraudulent bets . no cheating . your reasons are invalid . you make the rules yourself, you dance by yourself.

I am writing this last article to prevent this from happening to others. Since I became a member, all my withdrawal transactions were approved within 1 hour. 42 total withdrawals and each takes 1 hour. Some of them took 6-7 hours. This means it is impossible for them not to examine my account. Everything was known from the beginning. They said it was enough because I played professionally. Never connected from the same phone. I agree with the same wallet address. It also happened when I directly addressed it to my friend. But there were no fraudulent bets, friends. make sure of this. If you are constantly winning, stay away from rollbit.
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 27, 2023, 06:42:59 PM
I think it's the former rather than the latter, that OP accessed Rollbit through same IP as his friend, who got limited.

Anyway, OP, I've hailed Razer through PM just now. He was online, tackling other case on neighboring thread, let's hope he's still online and read my message and come here to give his input.

Thanks for informing me about this thread! Happy to take another look at this one.

OP, could you please provide your display name here or via PM?


Of course my rollbit username is kalmad


Hello razer i cant pm to you . Waiting you . King regards
3  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 27, 2023, 05:57:44 PM
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Anyway, OP, I've hailed Razer through PM just now. He was online, tackling other case on neighboring thread, let's hope he's still online and read my message and come here to give his input.
Hello again, you called Razer, after coming here and asking for my username, he didnt write again. I checked, he became online after I told him my username, but he still did not respond and did not solve our problem.

Give him time, a few days perhaps. The exchange of communication happened only yesterday, and this is a weekend, things are understandably go slower. He probably is getting to know your case better and see what's the problem is.


razer was last online on the 25th of the month. it's been 6 days today . why are we still not getting answers
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 22, 2023, 07:58:26 PM
The issues there is that you both were sharing same internet, I could recall a case like that which the representative came to reply on the thread about their operation of prohibition of multiple accounts sharing same internet. Alternatively it could be that your friend tried to login your account and has tried several times without succeeding this action could lead to account frozen or locked for some period if days but with this action if closing your account is something I can't comprehend. I believe Rollbit has an active campaign so it's better you contact their manager to help you out.

I think it's the former rather than the latter, that OP accessed Rollbit through same IP as his friend, who got limited.

Anyway, OP, I've hailed Razer through PM just now. He was online, tackling other case on neighboring thread, let's hope he's still online and read my message and come here to give his input.



Hello again, you called Razer, after coming here and asking for my username, he didnt write again. I checked, he became online after I told him my username, but he still did not respond and did not solve our problem.
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 21, 2023, 12:54:34 PM
I think it's the former rather than the latter, that OP accessed Rollbit through same IP as his friend, who got limited.

Anyway, OP, I've hailed Razer through PM just now. He was online, tackling other case on neighboring thread, let's hope he's still online and read my message and come here to give his input.

Thanks for informing me about this thread! Happy to take another look at this one.

OP, could you please provide your display name here or via PM?


Of course my rollbit username is kalmad
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 20, 2023, 11:05:46 AM
You are trying to cheat the system OP, your question was answered and yet you are forming like you are innocent, sigh you people will never learn, you are caught red handed and stop trying to make Rollbit casino look bad.

The team replied you by saying you are trying to deceive the casino's sportsbook limit, and you are trying to make it look like two brothers living in a house and using the same IP, that can't be right.

Sorry there is no way anyone can help you out of this, next time when you plan to gamble on any casino you will use only one account or risk getting the same result you got right now, I hope you learn from this.

Rollbit is clean and people like you can't tarnish their image, not until they really do something bad, but for now, their reputation is good.

Rollbit is by far not clean!
Why are there complaints about them all the time?
Why did they buy stolen/hacked stake account data to send promotion emails to existing stake VIP members?

If that is clean, I don't know.

Also, what advantage would a multiple account have when not getting a bonus? I know it's against the rules, and that's ok of course, but why would you call OP a cheater if there is no advantage?
If it was actually to circumvent limits then both accounts must have made the same bets on the same games, which need to be proved. OP says he bets football, the other "person"/account bets tennis. I don't see any limit abuse there.





Thank you very much for your support.

 You translated my feelings. They unjustly confiscated my money. People don't understand because they haven't experienced it themselves. One day, they may suddenly confiscate your money.
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 15, 2023, 10:33:22 PM
Oh, sorry. I got the time of your registration mixed up. Your friend was limited since March, you registered since July, and your friend ultimately deleted his account on September, this is the correct rough timeline?

I might be wrong, but I think the rule below is what they consider you've breached

3.27. Clients are allowed to bet only as individuals, group bets are not allowed. Repeated bets on the same results / winners from the same or different customers may subsequently be declared invalid. Even after the official result of the competition / athletes is already known, Sportsbook platform may consider the indicated bets invalid if it considers that the Clients act in collusion or as a syndicate, or the bets considered were made by one or more Clients within a short period of time. The betting company also has the right to refuse to accept bets or to count already made bets as invalid if they are made from different game accounts from the same IP address.


We have never bet together. Even if he wanted to, he couldn't bet with me. Group betting is definitely out of the question. I've been on my own since I started betting. Bets were made on rollbit only from my account. Dear helpful friend, what's wrong with this? 🥺

I was actually referring to the part I underlined, that they consider betting from different game accounts [in other words, different username] from the same IP address. As your friend were already registered to that IP, once you made a bet with your account using the same home wifi connection as him, you're considered breaching the terms you agreed with them.

The case became worse as your friend were limited, this makes your account to be perceived as an attempt to circumventing a betting limitation.



What do you think about them confiscating my money? I have never had any fraudulent or group bets.
8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 14, 2023, 11:45:08 PM
Your roommate got his bet limited to $1 since March, and you have your account since last year, so, roughly around September last year? Won't their excuse valid, then? For about 6 months [if not more], you're playing from the same IP as your friend?


I've been betting since I signed up at the suggestion of my roommate. After I registered, he did not place even 1 bet. He wasn't there when I was there. But he didn't tell me that his account was limited. After learning that he was restricted, I asked him to delete his account. He deleted his account on September 6. While I continued to play without any problems, 1 month later my account was confiscated and my money was not given because there were 2 accounts with the same IP address. I think my only mistake is betting on odds of 1.01 and 1.02. It's easy to get an odds of 1.01, but I lost my entire deposit 3 times. everything has a risk.

 We are 2 separate people. Is it a crime if we live in the same house? Can't people living in the same house bet on rollbit? Even if we use the mobile phone operator's internet network, our phone automatically connects to our home's wifi network when we enter the house. We are both KYC approved. We can even make video calls. We are ready to prove everything. But rollbit doesn't even allow us to prove it. ignores.

Oh, sorry. I got the time of your registration mixed up. Your friend was limited since March, you registered since July, and your friend ultimately deleted his account on September, this is the correct rough timeline?

I might be wrong, but I think the rule below is what they consider you've breached

3.27. Clients are allowed to bet only as individuals, group bets are not allowed. Repeated bets on the same results / winners from the same or different customers may subsequently be declared invalid. Even after the official result of the competition / athletes is already known, Sportsbook platform may consider the indicated bets invalid if it considers that the Clients act in collusion or as a syndicate, or the bets considered were made by one or more Clients within a short period of time. The betting company also has the right to refuse to accept bets or to count already made bets as invalid if they are made from different game accounts from the same IP address.


We have never bet together. Even if he wanted to, he couldn't bet with me. Group betting is definitely out of the question. I've been on my own since I started betting. Bets were made on rollbit only from my account. Dear helpful friend, what's wrong with this? 🥺
9  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 14, 2023, 09:33:07 PM
Do you mind giving us more info about this case with what I asked above your post? It's still unanswered. I'll PM rollbit's representative and invite them here once I understand the situation from your side better.


I think my roommate cant bet since March. Couldn't bet more than $1. My account was never banned. I have withdrawn money 42 times since July without any problems. I had no betting limits until my account was closed. I made hundreds of bets. Even though we both did KYC verification, my account was suddenly closed with the excuse that there were 2 accounts with the same IP address.

Your roommate got his bet limited to $1 since March, and you have your account since last year, so, roughly around September last year? Won't their excuse valid, then? For about 6 months [if not more], you're playing from the same IP as your friend?


I've been betting since I signed up at the suggestion of my roommate. After I registered, he did not place even 1 bet. He wasn't there when I was there. But he didn't tell me that his account was limited. After learning that he was restricted, I asked him to delete his account. He deleted his account on September 6. While I continued to play without any problems, 1 month later my account was confiscated and my money was not given because there were 2 accounts with the same IP address. I think my only mistake is betting on odds of 1.01 and 1.02. It's easy to get an odds of 1.01, but I lost my entire deposit 3 times. everything has a risk.

 We are 2 separate people. Is it a crime if we live in the same house? Can't people living in the same house bet on rollbit? Even if we use the mobile phone operator's internet network, our phone automatically connects to our home's wifi network when we enter the house. We are both KYC approved. We can even make video calls. We are ready to prove everything. But rollbit doesn't even allow us to prove it. ignores.
10  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 14, 2023, 05:17:19 PM
Still no answer

Do you mind giving us more info about this case with what I asked above your post? It's still unanswered. I'll PM rollbit's representative and invite them here once I understand the situation from your side better.


I think my roommate cant bet since March. Couldn't bet more than $1. My account was never banned. I have withdrawn money 42 times since July without any problems. I had no betting limits until my account was closed. I made hundreds of bets. Even though we both did KYC verification, my account was suddenly closed with the excuse that there were 2 accounts with the same IP address.
11  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 12, 2023, 08:03:22 PM
Still no answer
12  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ynt: Rollbit.com | Kriptonun En Ödüllendirici Kumarhanesi � on: October 12, 2023, 07:58:20 PM
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I didn't know this was bonus abuse. I was earning some pocket money by playing with odds of 1.01. If so, let them take my current accumulated bonus and give me back my current balance. thieves . I constantly write to live support and they ignore me.

There is actually a fine line on this issue. It seems to me that Rollbit always seems to have issue with people wagering on low odds thus claiming those bonuses because they level up faster but they dont seems to put it in as part of their written rules or whatsoever. Considering that they might not want to scare potential customer away with this rules then probably they only take action on account that have bet on low odds like that after several times

Anyway, you might want to try discord and write directly to either Lucky or Razer there about your issue then hope they will return your deposit


Still , waiting answer but cant get answer from live help or mails
13  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ynt: Rollbit.com | Kriptonun En Ödüllendirici Kumarhanesi � on: October 08, 2023, 08:58:33 PM
🚨 I've been waiting for an answer for 4 days. The last time Razer was active here was October 5, but he did not reply to me. I send emails but no response.
Razer is not here 24/7 to give you or any Bitcointalk members instantly support for their issues at Rollbit platform. If you need quick support, open your Support chat at Rollbit.

You must see yesterday and today is weekend that is time for family. I also know some casinos in Bitcointalk have their representatives wrote that they did not sign in casino accounts in weekends and sometimes they are even in vacation like a few days or weeks.

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I wanna speak with you . But I'm being ignored.

EVERYTHING IS NOT THAT SIMPLE
You will be ignored if you continue like this because it is annoying and this style can not help you to resolve your case. If you can not wait and be polite, you are increasing your failed rate.


What will you think if you get no answer? i did write to live support many times . But no answer
14  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ynt: Rollbit.com | Kriptonun En Ödüllendirici Kumarhanesi � on: October 08, 2023, 09:01:27 AM
I did not receive any registration bonus.

I dont think Rollbit offer registration bonus so in your case it will be the level up bonus. Rollbit has been nuking few accounts in the past that abused the level up bonus by wagering 1.01 odds on sportsbook. You could check like 5-10 pages from the current page of this thread that there are some people that claimed their account was locked as well their withdrawal was halt after abusing wagering at low odds then claiming those bonuses

Probably your friend's account has nothing to even do with your account getting terminated, its probably only because you kept wagering on low odds then constantly make profit from those level up bonus

I didn't know this was bonus abuse. I was earning some pocket money by playing with odds of 1.01. If so, let them take my current accumulated bonus and give me back my current balance. thieves . I constantly write to live support and they ignore me.

If all you got were the standard vip bonuses (calendars, daily, weekly, etc.) then the issue isn't bonus abuse and there's a misunderstanding or something else going on.

How long have you been waiting for a response?


🚨 I've been waiting for an answer for 4 days. The last time Razer was active here was October 5, but he did not reply to me. I send emails but no response.

I wanna speak with you . But I'm being ignored.

EVERYTHING IS NOT THAT SIMPLE
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ynt: Rollbit.com | Kriptonun En Ödüllendirici Kumarhanesi � on: October 07, 2023, 09:01:39 PM
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I didn't know this was bonus abuse. I was earning some pocket money by playing with odds of 1.01. If so, let them take my current accumulated bonus and give me back my current balance. thieves . I constantly write to live support and they ignore me.

There is actually a fine line on this issue. It seems to me that Rollbit always seems to have issue with people wagering on low odds thus claiming those bonuses because they level up faster but they dont seems to put it in as part of their written rules or whatsoever. Considering that they might not want to scare potential customer away with this rules then probably they only take action on account that have bet on low odds like that after several times

Anyway, you might want to try discord and write directly to either Lucky or Razer there about your issue then hope they will return your deposit



You must be absolutely sure that; They definitely neither respond to my e-mails nor do they respond to my messages via live support. A read receipt appears under my messages, but they don't even write a word. In fact, I beg you to please write something. They don't care at all. I have screenshots at the beginning of the topic, you can see them. If there is any missing image, I can upload it. I can't contact them, they don't reply at all. don't give up
16  Economy / Gambling / Ynt: Rollbit.com | Kriptonun En Ödüllendirici Kumarhanesi � on: October 07, 2023, 11:39:05 AM
I did not receive any registration bonus.

I dont think Rollbit offer registration bonus so in your case it will be the level up bonus. Rollbit has been nuking few accounts in the past that abused the level up bonus by wagering 1.01 odds on sportsbook. You could check like 5-10 pages from the current page of this thread that there are some people that claimed their account was locked as well their withdrawal was halt after abusing wagering at low odds then claiming those bonuses

Probably your friend's account has nothing to even do with your account getting terminated, its probably only because you kept wagering on low odds then constantly make profit from those level up bonus

I didn't know this was bonus abuse. I was earning some pocket money by playing with odds of 1.01. If so, let them take my current accumulated bonus and give me back my current balance. thieves . I constantly write to live support and they ignore me.
17  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 05, 2023, 03:05:46 PM
If things really happens just as you have explained it to be, then I would say that you are sure undeserving a closure of your account just like that, with your money or funds forfeited, this should not be..

Like every one else have said or suggested, I will also advice that you continue to reach out to their customer care, and also consider creating a scam accusation against them, this is if you are very sure that you are telling us the truth, create a scam accusation against them, I believe this will move them to properly and promptly look into your case and have it resolved immediately.


I didn't break TOS. I've been here for 3 months. When I was withdrawing money, my withdrawal was already approved late. In this way, I am sure that they review my account every time. Has there been no news yet? Of course there was. The security department was constantly approving my withdrawals late. maybe 3 hours. I withdrew money 42 times, and each time they knew there were 2 verified accounts with the same IP address. What they're accusing me of are 2 accounts belonging to the same device. this is not possible . I know what I'm doing. I neither logged in from my friend's phone nor he logged into mine. that's for sure. Even though I constantly write to support, they do not even write me a letter about withdrawing money. why do you think? I am innocent. My friend, it's been 5 months since I stopped playing here. We live in the same house and we have 1 home internet in our house. I can officially prove this. My roommate has the right to register here, but I don't? I think there is. I did not receive any registration bonus. I want to fight about this issue. And I'm ready to prove everything. But is rollbit ready? I repeat, we have an official residence document proving that we live in the same house. And I can prove other things that need to be proven. I never logged in from my friend's phone, nor did he. I hope nothing like this will happen to you my dear friends.
18  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: October 05, 2023, 02:58:35 PM
Here is the issue I opened, which explains in detail that I was scammed.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5469212.0
Base on what I read, you broke Rollbit's ToS by using multiple accounts on their platform.

Do you think they will give you a special treatment after you broke their ToS?

The answer is simple, NO.

If you made more violations, cheated their system, your chance is negative, not only zero. Please move on and self-close your case. Opening more and more topics won't help you.




DEAR MY FRIEND ;


I didn't break TOS. I've been here for 3 months. When I was withdrawing money, my withdrawal was already approved late. In this way, I am sure that they review my account every time. Has there been no news yet? Of course there was. The security department was constantly approving my withdrawals late. maybe 3 hours. I withdrew money 42 times, and each time they knew there were 2 verified accounts with the same IP address. What they're accusing me of are 2 accounts belonging to the same device. this is not possible . I know what I'm doing. I neither logged in from my friend's phone nor he logged into mine. that's for sure. Even though I constantly write to support, they do not even write me a letter about withdrawing money. why do you think? I am innocent. My friend, it's been 5 months since I stopped playing here. We live in the same house and we have 1 home internet in our house. I can officially prove this. My roommate has the right to register here, but I don't? I think there is. I did not receive any registration bonus. I want to fight about this issue. And I'm ready to prove everything. But is rollbit ready? I repeat, we have an official residence document proving that we live in the same house. And I can prove other things that need to be proven. I never logged in from my friend's phone, nor did he. I hope nothing like this will happen to you my dear friends.
19  Economy / Scam Accusations / Ynt: ROLLBIT parama el koydu. Ben dürüst bir bahis yaptım YARDIM 😢� on: October 04, 2023, 10:40:20 PM
We both have an account on stake.com. separately . We have not had any problems. We have been on stake.com for 2 years. One of the reasons why they defrauded me here may be that I constantly bet on the odds of 1.01 and 1.02. Because I always win. Because I bet by watching the match. I'm sure I'm not acting fraudulently at all. I'm sure I'm sure ok close my account. Ok . But they can't confiscate my money unjustly.


The way you placed your bets must have caught their attention. The moment they noticed that there were more accounts coming from the same IP address, it caused a red flag for them.
You (both) should probably be careful with Stake if you use the same betting system

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I forgot to say this. My roommate already deleted his account last month. I suspected that they would make excuses because I kept winning. I asked my friend to delete his account. I have placed 150 bets in 1 month. Where were they until now? As they kept winning, they attracted their attention and defrauded me.

I don't know why, but it seems to me that you forgot some other things to tell us here, which may have directly affected the ban on your account. Honestly, it doesn't seem logical to me that the two of you are using several of the same casinos at the same time. At least you don't look like ordinary users

No we dont use same system . My housemate bet only on tennis. Only tennis . And i bet only on football bets.Admin razer can check this . There are different things.
20  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: October 04, 2023, 08:16:36 PM
And I always bet on odds of 1.01 and 1.02 to avoid losing.

Yep thats the clue on why they terminate your account. You bet 1.01 and 1.02 odds to level up your account especially on sportsbetting then claim all those level up bonuses. Basically you are doing thing alongside with having another account that you probably claimed it was your housemate's account*

* I put an asterix there because I kinda suspected that you own that account as well but yeah it could be your housemate' account but the point is that there are multiple accounts that got bonuses from Rollbit. Either level up bonuses or RLB bonuses so that kinda violate their terms so yeah


1.01 and 1.02 are also very risky. Okay, the bonus progress will be faster by betting a lot, but there are many football matches with goals in the last minute and extra time. I lost my entire safe 3 times. Then I deposited money again. Then I doubled my money again. I would have shown proof of this if they hadn't blocked my access to my account.
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