Why?

Why include the coins dumped from all previous attacks and not this one, because you didnt get any yourself this time?
Half my balance was picked up in that dump in buy orders I had in for months.

Dev should fix the mistake.

Before you guys start pushing for exchanges, I would check that the new wallet is staking as specified.
I dont think it is, Its at 5% per year, not per month.

The last thing you want is for exchanges to add and then have to do it all over again.

HYPER can still be traded at cryptopia:

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?market=HYPER_BTC

Any wallet Nodes?

Just signed up at ToshiDesk.

Like what I see so far. Nice job

Still no working explorer, do we have an ETA?

Thats brutal crazywack

I heard that recently the litecoin forums were hacked.
Perhaps you were on there with the same un/pw as the bittrex exchange?

Regardless, nobody should use an exchange password anywhere else, and setup 2fa security on any exchange that offers it

Hope you manage to retrieve your funds.

What a horrible way to ruin the coin and your name at the same time.
Ill be dumping my long term staking stash for peanuts now.

I hope those few BTC were worth it. Epic greed and stupidity.
Thanks again.

So glad I got the hell out of FLY before Vegas could get his greedy hands on my coins. I was lucky enough to see that coming and dump the shit before he decided it was a good idea to tax every transaction and feed his greedy pockets from the stakes of every wallet while he was at it.

Never been so relieved to get out of a coin, I pity anyone who holds it now and is being held to ransom by team FLY.

It is pretty funny when you think about the nerve of these guys, What about XDE2 his latest scam?
How many devs could start a new coin, premine the hell out of it, then create super wallets only for Team FLY members that stake more than the rest of the community?
They would get laughed off bitcointalk as massive scammers.. Well thats exactly what they are.

Quitting FLY was the best move I have ever made in Crypto. Sorry.
All cards on the table huh. Why wont Team Fly post the figures that have been requested?
A very simple request and a very good reason you're doing your best to hide them.

Enjoy your joke of a premine. Pity you cannot see that they will be worthless like FLY. Only an true idiot would buy into this one.

You obviously dont care if Vegas is the richest because you are being handed a superwallet and a shitload of coins for doing absolutely nothing. You'll end up with far more than every long term holder and supporter of XDE simply because you are a shill for Vegas. Tell me how in your mind you think you deserve that?
You didnt kick me from Team FLY at all. Stop telling even more lies. I quit. Youre just upset about that worthless bag you hold and now cannot do the same.
You cant sell it if nobody wants it. Not my fault I woke up to the game early, made out with some profit and you cant.

But go ahead and post pictures if you think thats going to make people ignore the greedy premine here. Just do anything but post the actual numbers and be transparent.

Gimp. There is nothing wrong with your question. If you didn't ask it, someone else will eventually.
The premine on this coin is driven by pure greed. Its ridiculous. Vegas is clearly losing his mind if he thinks he can hide it a second time round.

I literally couldn't believe what I was reading with his proposal:

He is already the majority holder so will personally swap more coins than anyone else
He is also taking the remaining unswapped coins, which I'd guess would be about 50% of the supply, very conservative estimate.
He is also creating super wallets for himself and his team that will stake higher than anyone else
He is also taking the profit from private sales of these additional super wallets
He is also advertising private sales already of the new coin which is what he did with FLY

Its no wonder he wont present these numbers for all to see. Vegas your greed has gone too far this time. This is some kind of joke surely.

You still wonder why I got out of FLY when this absolute greed and market manipulation surfaced Vegas. Thank god I did. You can brag all day about the success of FLY but the truth of the matter is that the top holders could not sell even if they wanted to. Even if you removed all of the rules and high taxes built into the wallet. There is no demand for the coin. Not even close.
The FLY takeover was also full of suspicious activity, so much so that the amount of coins swapped was actually higher than the entire Supply and the swapped ROS coins are still being traded today. Thats not how coin swaps are supposed to work. The end result saw the FLY Team hold well over 90% of the new coin all hidden under a takeover. That is exactly what is being manufactured here.

Let me ask you this, why would any investor buy into a new coin that has a 90% premine?
You would be laughed off bitcointalk and labelled a scammer forever which I have to say is exactly how you are behaving.
Surely this will be labelled as a troll post too, even though everything stated is the absolute truth.
You're kidding vegas, you're going to drag every member of Team FLY through the mud with you too.

What a sad state of affairs.
Cannot say that I am shocked by the way things have turned out but I wont say I told you so.
If you guys want to extract any life whatsoever from this disaster, forget the control freak policies completely. Run the coin without the need to police every move on the blockchain.
The top holders still hold nearly all of the coins, if they dont dump there is nothing to concern yourself with. The rest is just egotistical bullshit that keeps people from wanting to buy in at all.

From memory, the coin was doing fairly well before all of these broken rules and ridiculous policies were introduced.

Or.. keep going the way of the governments and banks who want to tax every move you make with your funds and watch it die completely.

Final speech, still for unknown reasons.

Firstly, as I stated all along that once you send coins to an exchange you do not have control of those funds as far as transactions on that address are concerned. I could send 1000 coins to yobit, never sell any and still have withdrawals from totally different people affect that deposit address even though my exchange balance does not change. So again, I have not sent a single coin to anyone. You can apologise to miner when you are ready.

Secondly, you can spend your days tracking my 27 address.. hell why not make it 50 or 100, anyone who used either exchange probably has a connection to my deposits as I have sold more coins than anyone. For the record, I did create a couple more wallets after I left the group for my kids as was my original intention (I'll even tell you the addresses if you really think it will help you sleep at night) but I sent every coin from every address I had left to Cryptopia yesterday and sold the lot. Goneski. Watching the direction you are taking this coin only reinforced my decision so I am out. Yes, your vegas fly trap was very affective. I dumped the lot before you could take any with ridiculous 50% fees. Congratulations.

If you think I am somehow still trying to hide my vast collection of coins you are simply paranoid. I have made no secret about my intent to leave this coin. I personally think its doomed for many many reasons but out of what little respect I have left for some of the group members (some are genuinely good people as far as I can tell), I chose not to make them public. You should be grateful for that.
By all means, waste your time tracking away though. You and your team clearly don't know what you are even looking at but I am sure you get a kick out of it and enjoy trying to nail completely innocent people for what you think might be happening.

Thirdly, here's the bottom line again. What I did with my own coins was absolutely my business. Not yours or team fly. I didn't sign any contracts and if I wanted to keep any coins I just would have. I could have held on a lot longer and slowly bled them out if I wanted to. Swapping them to multiple nameless wallets would achieve nothing and I could if I really wanted to as much as you think otherwise. Selling my coins also makes me a scammer as far as some of your team is concerned which is just laughable. Yes Tim, I'm laughing specifically at you. You're a bit of a twit mate.

Lastly, how do you think you would have reacted if I told you beforehand that I wanted out and was going to sell all of my coins? I know very well how you operate, I know your history, I know your ego, I know how you have played the markets since they first opened to try and monopolize the supply as cheaply as you can. I would have lost out big time. I am not an idiot, sorry. I only dumped into your own buy wall anyway so really, you got exactly what you wanted, more coins for the top holders. I have no idea who was placing those big buys yesterday for the remainder of my coins, but if I had to guess I'd say it was you or one of the team, with or without your knowledge.

What you did with ROS in the end served me very well and for that I am thankful to but you need to realise that not everyone is going to agree on everything you do. You yourself have stated that this coin is extremely controversial. My exit is just one by-product of that design. I'd expect more over the journey if I were you.

This is absolutely the last post I will ever make on this thread, I have no idea why I am saying anything at all to be perfectly honest.

 

Why I am bothering, I really don't know.

Seems you're intent on attempting to publicly crucify anyone who purchased coins from an exchange because... they all came from someone who sold them. That is how they work you know.
I would have thought at least one of the many experts in the group could have explained this very simple concept to you by now.
Care to post the transaction you seem pretty confident I sent him 500 bucks worth? BTW, you cant because I didn't send him or anyone a single coin. All mine were sold on exchanges, all of them. 

I mean apart from you being wrong again, this poor bugger has a total of 225 coins of the 170,000 supply and you are riding him, really?

Two cents: Put away the police badge and focus on the coin and creating value instead of wasting time chasing imaginary blockchain shenanigans. The top holders have more than enough to secure the future of this coin and people will continue to buy and sell.. big and small. You cannot stop it. The harder you try and make it for the smaller holders to do so will do nothing but deter new investors. Stop wasting time chasing ghosts and do something that makes people want to buy into the coin. You are doing the exact opposite now and unless things change, you'll end up with a bunch of disappointed investors with nobody to sell their POS savings to.

You need to rethink your entire strategy. Does this coin exist purely to serve as a means for you to prove you can outsmart someone?

Now you're catching on. This dump was by design, I told you myself I was going to get out and vegas warned everyone it was coming. The vegas fly trap I think he liked to call it. Quite brilliant really.
I cant see how crying about it now is going to help anyone.

Anyway, enjoy holding that massive bank account that you can only access when someone else tells you its ok.
I'm done here.

ha, another one who doesnt understand how the blockchain and exchanges work. Why would I bother doing that? Give me one single reason.

Care to name the few more you think I own while you're on a roll? Go as hard as you like champ.

It was not clear at all meta. That's either blissful ignorance or an outright lie. According to group rules, I was not permitted to setup staking wallets for my kids and fund them with my own coins, this is another fact.
Perhaps you should reread this and the old ROS thread and show me where the current rules around FLY were made clear from the first day on. I bet you cant. They have changed since last week ffs and that will continue.

Lets get one thing perfectly clear, I didn't try to 'game the system' and was not kicked out of 'Team Fly'. I told the entire team about every move I made and in the end I quit of my own accord. Crypto to me is about freedom to make my own decisions and I have made mine. The less I say about my many reasons for leaving the group and the coin is probably a good thing for both you and the remaining team members so if I were you I really wouldn't poke the bear. I only held a small percentage so how about you just try to move on.

I am not about to start a pissing contest with you but you should be as glad as I am that I am no longer a FLY holder if you really believe in the direction you are heading.

For the record, I saw someone being accused of receiving funds from me earlier. Untrue. Id suggest that you guys learn how to read the blockchain before making public accusations.
Its called an exchange, they have wallet addresses show up on the explorer like any other address.

and with that, I bid you all farewell.

For the record, I think Fly is a great coin but I am primarily a trader, and if I cant trade a coin I am not really interested.

Being labelled a deserter or a betrayer of trust is probably what comes next, that's fine but these rules were all implemented well after I became a holder of FLY.
I took part in the swap from ROS and then everything became heavily policed. I wasn't even permitted to create wallets for my immediate family to learn how to POS, with my own coins.

The model is fine but it just isn't for me, good luck.