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November 21, 2015, 03:37:30 AM
Last edit: November 21, 2015, 03:50:41 AM by vegasguy
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So I understand your explanation : Spiralout sent about $500 US worth of FLY to a random address, and you were just lucky enough to have that address? Did I understand this correctly? That sounds plausible. Ill put you right back in rewards, thanks for your explanation. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Vegas

Why I am bothering, I really don't know.

Seems you're intent on attempting to publicly crucify anyone who purchased coins from an exchange because... they all came from someone who sold them. That is how they work you know.
I would have thought at least one of the many experts in the group could have explained this very simple concept to you by now.
Care to post the transaction you seem pretty confident I sent him 500 bucks worth? BTW, you cant because I didn't send him or anyone a single coin. All mine were sold on exchanges, all of them.  

I mean apart from you being wrong again, this poor bugger has a total of 225 coins of the 170,000 supply and you are riding him, really?

Two cents: Put away the police badge and focus on the coin and creating value instead of wasting time chasing imaginary blockchain shenanigans. The top holders have more than enough to secure the future of this coin and people will continue to buy and sell.. big and small. You cannot stop it. The harder you try and make it for the smaller holders to do so will do nothing but deter new investors. Stop wasting time chasing ghosts and do something that makes people want to buy into the coin. You are doing the exact opposite now and unless things change, you'll end up with a bunch of disappointed investors with nobody to sell their POS savings to.


Here you go:

Here is a stake for spiral
Input 0 :   202.32896055 is sent from SpiralOut (FC319pXGa5EP2iqKpiLgMdqHzACgQD6gwu)
Input Source: 7f1e2a7e199b9f8c743663d550f4c06033c7c0d6fdf910860aa3b047528518c3
Output 0 :   CoinStake
Output 1 :   202.32896055 sent to SpiralOut (FC319pXGa5EP2iqKpiLgMdqHzACgQD6gwu)
Output 2 :   2.34119616 sent to FE3KGtMEWLbU1o9P9HUmSLtVsWDnWT83F2

Input main wallet output main wallet and address staked to above

Midnight miner receive 80 - 16 from FE3KGtMEWLbU1o9P9HUmSLtVsWDnWT83F2 (currently 25th on richlist) and the rest from several addresses of which 4 more are tied to recent moves by Spiral including below 4 (moves from main to:

FK4YtUin1BEzSmttZQvAYNDKNzqQyqhG9a    *7
FFb9TwdCumA1fcCD1X8V1G93NbGJfRusUx    *6
FNZwkqdCFCStpE5EDyW1Nxfn7HSbdF3u4w   *5
FNf2MxkGu7hnyD8oR72xipew1eYvKr3XNk      *1

So are you trying to say that you sent to FE3 above (claiming it is the exchange) and Midnight miner got his from the exchange but, has the same exchange wallet as Spiral?Huh I sent to Yobit but have my own unique address and I sent to yobit but have my own unique address.

Here is the 80 coins you sent to your Midnight-miner account :



By the way Spiral, when I get bored I track your movements. Im tracking all of your 27 addresses youve used in the past 2 days including the FE3 and your main address. So you can stop now.


Vegas


I want to make sure everyone knows that I just released my software called "Yobit pump alert". THis is custom software that uses an algo to detect the start of a pump here on yobit, the second it starts. YOu can even filter the coins you see by price. Most pumps start less than 100 sats , so you can easily filter the cheap coins, so they are the only ones displayed Smiley https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1945937.msg20241953#msg20241953
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November 21, 2015, 03:55:06 AM
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SpiralOut posted, so I will post my side of all of this.


Here is the Addresses in my dead Wallet:

Empty Trade Wallet
FLcDGTnyApzGaQZDxK2rZv9kq2Rv2jKfay - (no label) never used
FHDsMB1Tw1LiPkCLtmdT2X3bSbDC8s6nze - YObit trading
FMZAw84vtF2gh2veuwHxLyyWaWZVDoaqDh - YObit Staking

Here is ALL the transactions from the wallet:
"Confirmed","Date","Type","Label","Address","Amount","ID"
"true","2015-11-18T00:07:53","Sent to","Cryptopia","FH8dhkSnAGmUMvGhRPaiWt55jDhLVvUSgB","-6.16506948","7b80b8e57312d3992bab3de80f1f9e1796601fb35342822b18b0b9f1068fc90b-000"
"true","2015-11-13T17:23:48","Sent to","Cryptopia","FH8dhkSnAGmUMvGhRPaiWt55jDhLVvUSgB","-50.10","8ca033239eb146eadfd454ab6acef159ef6e8631628ae2d9dcc6039d22a362e9-000"
"true","2015-11-12T14:39:01","Received with","YObit Trading","FHDsMB1Tw1LiPkCLtmdT2X3bSbDC8s6nze","6.06661153","a928b9dc452a6faa3c9695135fa796fcb8dcd8317dfa5179a2945c6a107399e9-000"
"true","2015-11-10T16:31:25","Minted","YObit Trading","FHDsMB1Tw1LiPkCLtmdT2X3bSbDC8s6nze","0.29845795","f2b7ddf91cbd6ba3050edb7d67ef2708040654ad01fad6d22af6dc08b3ae57e2-000"
"true","2015-11-07T09:11:12","Sent to","YObit","FGGQ8wKDaDGvR78SW4P9G75TbDT6D7JFxB","-20.10","f12eed2b3cb548cdf542b2ad670274df23afbad4c00cb30b35634bb376e7725d-000"
"true","2015-10-30T20:04:28","Received with","YObit Trading","FHDsMB1Tw1LiPkCLtmdT2X3bSbDC8s6nze","20.00","c0833c4fc0f8989b94dd85dafce7e1e530693d4db88c7d93bcfa17bf1da54bb4-000"
"true","2015-10-30T19:20:13","Received with","YObit Staking","FMZAw84vtF2gh2veuwHxLyyWaWZVDoaqDh","50.00","3c451d5927b977227fed0f6a3377bcaa70ce8fe6234459f90a264b2486b6bd5f-000"


MAIN Wallet
FMZAw84vtF2gh2veuwHxLyyWaWZVDoaqDh  - MAIN Addr
FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE  - PoS Addr
FJsmCwDjVjNDb5ogRcXMx7wpG53MV3FqDU  - Generated but never used

Exported Transaction history:

"Confirmed","Date","Type","Label","Address","Amount","ID"
"true","2015-11-20T13:38:49","Received with","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","50.00","4e1fb46df47e1ff1e03607b300a825be8e7c0c3aef1a793fd6b8fe7e6cb7fc9f-000"
"true","2015-11-18T21:12:17","Minted","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","0.25165793","4155dab13758bef77dc756c46def7195f60c5449521dc0984077dfabe3ecff64-000"
"true","2015-11-18T21:12:17","Sent to","MAIN POS","FJsmCwDjVjNDb5ogRcXMx7wpG53MV3FqDU","-0.25165793","4155dab13758bef77dc756c46def7195f60c5449521dc0984077dfabe3ecff64-000"
"true","2015-11-18T18:03:51","Received with","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","25.00","2372eb0bfb22453e9b787f9cf2a3fafd1da6c3bb5941e2e95d6c75a466f2fcd2-000"
"true","2015-11-18T00:04:51","Received with","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","25.00","6ed14e6f2b7bcc468bffeeb5b9f3aec2e1c08d7ee018a771258d535391d75685-000"
"true","2015-11-14T02:59:33","Minted","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","1.29123795","3b625ecf1de362dd8efb42b7fa1fddf549ad9a92abf7eef7bd4d8297ba803eae-000"
"true","2015-11-14T02:59:33","Sent to","MAIN POS","FJsmCwDjVjNDb5ogRcXMx7wpG53MV3FqDU","-1.29123795","3b625ecf1de362dd8efb42b7fa1fddf549ad9a92abf7eef7bd4d8297ba803eae-000"
"true","2015-11-12T14:21:30","Received with","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","25.00","52dbbbff063595bfdc561e59ca2abaf48470b5ddc5ea1ecf585fb0566decf3ba-000"
"true","2015-11-09T19:39:55","Minted","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","0.26780473","b424d8553090ecd3cc128a8b0b45bbebe5ff9e0e353e911ae167f29e40c96f6c-000"
"true","2015-11-02T08:12:41","Received with","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","80.00","87bc65f5ad8707bbc8552d8c38563a772455b4e5e38a8c2b17775da96e98ef5e-000"
"true","2015-10-31T02:04:06","Received with","MAIN","FF4g5pQQKNFZC6oUHniZw3z9dU5m56LBnE","20.00","fc36f15fa78ca765fd1530c83cbaca38cc1188da7861b39fc7e735b767341b6a-000"


FGGQ8wKDaDGvR78SW4P9G75TbDT6D7JFxB  - YObit Deposit Addr
FH8dhkSnAGmUMvGhRPaiWt55jDhLVvUSgB  - Cryptopia Deposit Addr

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November 21, 2015, 03:57:43 AM
Last edit: November 21, 2015, 04:29:10 AM by vegasguy
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Hey, Im open to hear any explanation. It does not make a whole lot of sense that yobit would store funds for more than one user in 1 address, but to be fair let me get it right from the horses mouth. I will contact blacksmith and confirm either way. I also have a few great friends that create block explorers looking at it too. So we will get to the bottom of this.



Vegas

I want to make sure everyone knows that I just released my software called "Yobit pump alert". THis is custom software that uses an algo to detect the start of a pump here on yobit, the second it starts. YOu can even filter the coins you see by price. Most pumps start less than 100 sats , so you can easily filter the cheap coins, so they are the only ones displayed Smiley https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1945937.msg20241953#msg20241953
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November 21, 2015, 04:01:51 AM
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By the way Spiral, when I get bored I track your movements. Im tracking all of your 27 addresses youve used in the past 2 days including the FE3 and your main address. So you can stop now.

Vegas

Little Creepy.


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November 21, 2015, 04:05:22 AM
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Cryptopia Market History:

11/20/2015 5:33:58 AM   Sell   0.00110026   1500.00000000   1.65039000
11/20/2015 5:33:58 AM   Sell   0.00152006   0.07207668   0.00010956
11/20/2015 5:33:58 AM   Sell   0.00152006   0.23444946   0.00035638
11/20/2015 4:56:57 AM   Sell   0.00153000   1000.00000000   1.53000000

My History at that time:

11/20/2015 4:56:57 AM   FLY/BTC   Buy   0.00160000   5.00000000   0.00800000
11/20/2015 4:56:57 AM   FLY/BTC   Buy   0.00180000   10.00000000   0.01800000
11/20/2015 4:56:57 AM   FLY/BTC   Buy   0.00180750   10.00000000   0.01807500
11/20/2015 4:56:57 AM   FLY/BTC   Buy   0.00181000   10.00000000   0.01810000

Yeah!  I made a real deal there!  Whoa! 35 FLY!!!

Still kicking myself for not putting more bids on the wall...
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November 21, 2015, 04:08:43 AM
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No, I wont touch it. Here is why:

Its important that you understand the meaning of the flag of what it was and what it is, and its origins. The writing on the flag reads, "There is only one god, Allah, and the prophet Muhammad is his messenger." or "There is only one god, and he is god", is the best way I can translate. I'm sorry but the British and American democracy are based on free speech. Unfortunately, If people want to have the swastika or the ISIL flag on their gardens let them! It's hypocritical by the people of America to allow the confederate flag but not the swastika. The flag is known as the "Black Standard", and is part of Islamic tradition.
The text at the top of the flag is known as the "Shahada", and is a transliteration of "There is no God but God, and Muhammad is his prophet"
The symbol at the bottom of the flag is the Seal of Muhammad - this was a symbol that Muhammad inscribed into letters he wrote to leaders of Byzantium, Persia, Ethiopia, Egypt, Syria, Bahrain and Kashmir during Islam's earliest days.
The flag as a whole has been around for about as long as Islam itself: Muhammad used a similar flag as a symbol of his conquests, specifically to contrast himself to the Roman traditions regarding flags and standards of their own legions. So in short, the flag has been around for centuries. The ISIS adopted the flag, and twisted its meaning to their own cause. But its origins and its meaning do not change. Because the flag has always had a religious meaning , I cannot and will not censor it. I hope everyone understands.

Vegas

That is a pretty good summary of a very long story.

Not to get into a debate, but it is ALWAYS a political / power agenda that brings religion in to justify a conflict.

Terrorism or war in the name of a religion goes back to the days before the current religions existed.
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November 21, 2015, 04:34:24 AM
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By the way Spiral, when I get bored I track your movements. Im tracking all of your 27 addresses youve used in the past 2 days including the FE3 and your main address. So you can stop now.

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See , even Spiralout will tell you this is factual: He was part of team fly and a high holder. Then one day without warning he dumped 2500 coins on us. So THAT is why this is such a big deal. EVERYONE on the team was devastated, as we all trusted him. So we are putting the squeeze on him. Im going to keep saying this. Our cause is to "out" those that have been causing all this mistrust in crypto, and they wont like it one bit. BUT its nothing we do to them, THEY strike first, we just shine the light on them. Again, enough is enough. It needs to stop and it will. Most people think its just ok to go around and do whatever they want to people while anonymous. Its NOT ok. Just because your anonymous, does not mean you can do whatever you want to people and get away with it. Call it what you want. "Enough is enough". Im going to make a few enemies along the way, but I get LOADS of PMS saying "go vegas, I support you". Its about a 30 new allies to 1 enemy, and thats a great ratio. It confirms Im doing the right thing. I LOVE reading my emails every morning.

Vegas

I want to make sure everyone knows that I just released my software called "Yobit pump alert". THis is custom software that uses an algo to detect the start of a pump here on yobit, the second it starts. YOu can even filter the coins you see by price. Most pumps start less than 100 sats , so you can easily filter the cheap coins, so they are the only ones displayed Smiley https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1945937.msg20241953#msg20241953
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November 21, 2015, 04:38:34 AM
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Hey, Im open to hear any explanation. It does not make a whole lot of sense that yobit would store funds for more than one user in 1 address, but to be fair let me get it right from the horses mouth. I will contact blacksmith and confirm either way. Stay tuned.

Vegas
it's not about storage though.  even if it's one persons deposit address for the exchange, it's sent indiscriminately (or coinage or min fee w/e) from there when withdrawn. essentially the exchange doesn't differentiate wallets it's sending from on withdrawals
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November 21, 2015, 04:44:14 AM
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Thanks for your help, and I believe you might be right. But Im waiting for a few more responses to chime in, and waiting to hear back from Yobit. Like I said, if I made a mistake on this, I will publicly apologize to midnight miner from the bottom of my heart and mean it. But I need more time.


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I want to make sure everyone knows that I just released my software called "Yobit pump alert". THis is custom software that uses an algo to detect the start of a pump here on yobit, the second it starts. YOu can even filter the coins you see by price. Most pumps start less than 100 sats , so you can easily filter the cheap coins, so they are the only ones displayed Smiley https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1945937.msg20241953#msg20241953
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November 21, 2015, 05:19:54 AM
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Thanks for your help, and I believe you might be right. But Im waiting for a few more responses to chime in, and waiting to hear back from Yobit. Like I said, if I made a mistake on this, I will publicly apologize to midnight miner from the bottom of my heart and mean it. But I need more time.


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And I will kick in the SuperFLY he lost due to the error
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See , even Spiralout will tell you this is factual: He was part of team fly and a high holder. Then one day without warning he dumped 2500 coins on us. So THAT is why this is such a big deal. EVERYONE on the team was devastated, as we all trusted him. So we are putting the squeeze on him. Im going to keep saying this. Our cause is to "out" those that have been causing all this mistrust in crypto, and they wont like it one bit. BUT its nothing we do to them, THEY strike first, we just shine the light on them. Again, enough is enough. It needs to stop and it will. Most people think its just ok to go around and do whatever they want to people while anonymous. Its NOT ok. Just because your anonymous, does not mean you can do whatever you want to people and get away with it. Call it what you want. "Enough is enough". Im going to make a few enemies along the way, but I get LOADS of PMS saying "go vegas, I support you". Its about a 30 new allies to 1 enemy, and thats a great ratio. It confirms Im doing the right thing. I LOVE reading my emails every morning.

Vegas

Spiral  was part of the team and  he did say he had made wallets for his kids but, then agreed to put all funds in 1 wallet
to meet the teams rules. He changed his mind and later decided to take himself out of the team and dump lots of coins.
I do not find fault with his decisions - just the order he did them. He was in saying no problem - will make 1 wallet - then
changed his mind and dumped, then notified the team after dump. Personal opinion - should have notified team 1st before dump.
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November 21, 2015, 06:05:28 AM
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See , even Spiralout will tell you this is factual: He was part of team fly and a high holder. Then one day without warning he dumped 2500 coins on us. So THAT is why this is such a big deal. EVERYONE on the team was devastated, as we all trusted him. So we are putting the squeeze on him. Im going to keep saying this. Our cause is to "out" those that have been causing all this mistrust in crypto, and they wont like it one bit. BUT its nothing we do to them, THEY strike first, we just shine the light on them. Again, enough is enough. It needs to stop and it will. Most people think its just ok to go around and do whatever they want to people while anonymous. Its NOT ok. Just because your anonymous, does not mean you can do whatever you want to people and get away with it. Call it what you want. "Enough is enough". Im going to make a few enemies along the way, but I get LOADS of PMS saying "go vegas, I support you". Its about a 30 new allies to 1 enemy, and thats a great ratio. It confirms Im doing the right thing. I LOVE reading my emails every morning.

Vegas

Final speech, still for unknown reasons.

Firstly, as I stated all along that once you send coins to an exchange you do not have control of those funds as far as transactions on that address are concerned. I could send 1000 coins to yobit, never sell any and still have withdrawals from totally different people affect that deposit address even though my exchange balance does not change. So again, I have not sent a single coin to anyone. You can apologise to miner when you are ready.

Secondly, you can spend your days tracking my 27 address.. hell why not make it 50 or 100, anyone who used either exchange probably has a connection to my deposits as I have sold more coins than anyone. For the record, I did create a couple more wallets after I left the group for my kids as was my original intention (I'll even tell you the addresses if you really think it will help you sleep at night) but I sent every coin from every address I had left to Cryptopia yesterday and sold the lot. Goneski. Watching the direction you are taking this coin only reinforced my decision so I am out. Yes, your vegas fly trap was very affective. I dumped the lot before you could take any with ridiculous 50% fees. Congratulations.

If you think I am somehow still trying to hide my vast collection of coins you are simply paranoid. I have made no secret about my intent to leave this coin. I personally think its doomed for many many reasons but out of what little respect I have left for some of the group members (some are genuinely good people as far as I can tell), I chose not to make them public. You should be grateful for that.
By all means, waste your time tracking away though. You and your team clearly don't know what you are even looking at but I am sure you get a kick out of it and enjoy trying to nail completely innocent people for what you think might be happening.

Thirdly, here's the bottom line again. What I did with my own coins was absolutely my business. Not yours or team fly. I didn't sign any contracts and if I wanted to keep any coins I just would have. I could have held on a lot longer and slowly bled them out if I wanted to. Swapping them to multiple nameless wallets would achieve nothing and I could if I really wanted to as much as you think otherwise. Selling my coins also makes me a scammer as far as some of your team is concerned which is just laughable. Yes Tim, I'm laughing specifically at you. You're a bit of a twit mate.

Lastly, how do you think you would have reacted if I told you beforehand that I wanted out and was going to sell all of my coins? I know very well how you operate, I know your history, I know your ego, I know how you have played the markets since they first opened to try and monopolize the supply as cheaply as you can. I would have lost out big time. I am not an idiot, sorry. I only dumped into your own buy wall anyway so really, you got exactly what you wanted, more coins for the top holders. I have no idea who was placing those big buys yesterday for the remainder of my coins, but if I had to guess I'd say it was you or one of the team, with or without your knowledge.

What you did with ROS in the end served me very well and for that I am thankful to but you need to realise that not everyone is going to agree on everything you do. You yourself have stated that this coin is extremely controversial. My exit is just one by-product of that design. I'd expect more over the journey if I were you.

This is absolutely the last post I will ever make on this thread, I have no idea why I am saying anything at all to be perfectly honest.

 
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November 21, 2015, 06:17:16 AM
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Hey, you made your choice. We wished you would have talked to us first. You talked to us almost every day. So we trusted you. When you wanted out, I think it would have been for the best for everyone to come and talk to the team, and we would have worked something out. Perhaps buy you out? But you dumped massive amounts of coins and disappeared. So I speak for everyone that was devastated by your actions when I say, you could have handled your choice to exit in a much more dignified way. You chose the worst possible way. We also know that less than 24 hours ago you had a few thousand coins. Hardly any have moved on Yobit and those fake buys and sells to yourself  for 1000 and 1500 coins on Topia is an insult to my intelligence. So stop wasting your time and mine.

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I want to make sure everyone knows that I just released my software called "Yobit pump alert". THis is custom software that uses an algo to detect the start of a pump here on yobit, the second it starts. YOu can even filter the coins you see by price. Most pumps start less than 100 sats , so you can easily filter the cheap coins, so they are the only ones displayed Smiley https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1945937.msg20241953#msg20241953
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November 21, 2015, 07:49:17 AM
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guys no drama please

let them who are not bound to a contract
use exchanges for buy and sell at will
and transfer coins around the globe as they want

as soon as superfly code is active again
this will be a very supportive act for the superfly address
and all people on the recieve from superfly list

if below 100 FLY in ur address i would take advantage of the cheap FLY now
fill the gap and reach 100+
and do what is required to get added on the superfly list

 
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Here goes my fly article - http://www.coins2day.com/altcoins/fly-coin-review.html
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November 21, 2015, 12:07:56 PM
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Are these rules specially made to restrict the typical dumpers out there? Tongue

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SPECIAL STRICT RULES: (PLEASE READ)::

If you are a member of Team FLY or are receiving SuperFLY rewards, Our  rule that everyone has to agreed to abide by is this:

You are allowed ONLY 1 "main wallet" address.
You are NOT allowed to EVER make ANY outbound transactions from that main wallet address

You are also allowed only 1 "savings" address.
IF you want to sell some of your fly, you must setup a "savings" wallet (formally called multisend) as a  secondary wallet.
All of your POS rewards will automatically be sent there and you are welcome to sell them ONLY on the sell side.

Well, although it's a nice initiative but I think it leads more towards "Centralization" rather than being a simple, decentralized cryptocurrency. You could have allowed at least one outbound transaction per month/year and that would have been nicer.
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Are these rules specially made to restrict the typical dumpers out there? Tongue

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SPECIAL STRICT RULES: (PLEASE READ)::

If you are a member of Team FLY or are receiving SuperFLY rewards, Our  rule that everyone has to agreed to abide by is this:

You are allowed ONLY 1 "main wallet" address.
You are NOT allowed to EVER make ANY outbound transactions from that main wallet address

You are also allowed only 1 "savings" address.
IF you want to sell some of your fly, you must setup a "savings" wallet (formally called multisend) as a  secondary wallet.
All of your POS rewards will automatically be sent there and you are welcome to sell them ONLY on the sell side.

Well, although it's a nice initiative but I think it leads more towards "Centralization" rather than being a simple, decentralized cryptocurrency. You could have allowed at least one outbound transaction per month/year and that would have been nicer.

I do agree our rules are rigid and strict and hardcore. However with the current condition of crypto, I needed a safe heaven for good people that wanted to invest without worry. The condition of crypto is so bad right now with all the scams and cons and broken promises, that the coin had to be as extreme but the opposite. Now, eventually it will slowly relax as conditions improve. So yes, im fully aware that the rules are extreme, and these are all defense mechanisms put in place to secure the coin. We are still not were we want to be. I can assure you as time goes on and the coin is fully secure the rules will relax and people will be able to sell a % from their main wallet. Many people have it their head that I added all these hardcore rules because im a control freak and I enjoy it. The reality is I wanted to create the safest coin out there, and for now in order to do that all the measures had to be put in place.

Now I do want to add a positive note that will help simplify things. Lets say you want to invest in a safe coin and generate a handsome interest rate without the worry of waking up and some greedy person has dumped it to nothing. When you buy and hold flycoin, none of the hardcore stringent rules affect you. You can just sit on your investment and earn 50% a year AND if you want to contribute to fly in some way , you will earn additional rewards from the superfly wallet. Thats it! The only time you even have to worry about rules is when you are transferring money around. Its that simple.

Vegas

Thank you for your time.

Vegas

I want to make sure everyone knows that I just released my software called "Yobit pump alert". THis is custom software that uses an algo to detect the start of a pump here on yobit, the second it starts. YOu can even filter the coins you see by price. Most pumps start less than 100 sats , so you can easily filter the cheap coins, so they are the only ones displayed Smiley https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1945937.msg20241953#msg20241953
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November 21, 2015, 03:02:17 PM
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Are these rules specially made to restrict the typical dumpers out there? Tongue

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SPECIAL STRICT RULES: (PLEASE READ)::

If you are a member of Team FLY or are receiving SuperFLY rewards, Our  rule that everyone has to agreed to abide by is this:

You are allowed ONLY 1 "main wallet" address.
You are NOT allowed to EVER make ANY outbound transactions from that main wallet address

You are also allowed only 1 "savings" address.
IF you want to sell some of your fly, you must setup a "savings" wallet (formally called multisend) as a  secondary wallet.
All of your POS rewards will automatically be sent there and you are welcome to sell them ONLY on the sell side.

Well, although it's a nice initiative but I think it leads more towards "Centralization" rather than being a simple, decentralized cryptocurrency. You could have allowed at least one outbound transaction per month/year and that would have been nicer.

I do agree our rules are rigid and strict and hardcore. However with the current condition of crypto, I needed a safe heaven for good people that wanted to invest without worry. The condition of crypto is so bad right now with all the scams and cons and broken promises, that the coin had to be as extreme but the opposite. Now, eventually it will slowly relax as conditions improve. So yes, im fully aware that the rules are extreme, and these are all defense mechanisms put in place to secure the coin. We are still not were we want to be. I can assure you as time goes on and the coin is fully secure the rules will relax and people will be able to sell a % from their main wallet. Many people have it their head that I added all these hardcore rules because im a control freak and I enjoy it. The reality is I wanted to create the safest coin out there, and for now in order to do that all the measures had to be put in place.

Now I do want to add a positive note that will help simplify things. Lets say you want to invest in a safe coin and generate a handsome interest rate without the worry of waking up and some greedy person has dumped it to nothing. When you buy and hold flycoin, none of the hardcore stringent rules affect you. You can just sit on your investment and earn 50% a year AND if you want to contribute to fly in some way , you will earn additional rewards from the superfly wallet. Thats it! The only time you even have to worry about rules is when you are transferring money around. Its that simple.

Vegas

Thank you for your time.

Vegas

An Investment of 50% profit is absolutely awesome and I fully agree with you.

Here in cryptoworld, there are a lot of noobs and scammers and the most danger one, the greedys, who think, to run a Quick-Rich-scheme is the solution for their life.

They are totally wrong! We are under governments observation. The mistakes of devs and scammers will hit them hard, because the altcoinscene have totally changed! The altcoinworld reach the next step:To go into the business with real money and real investments!

Summarized, I can say and be very proud to be a part here, that we build an Investmentstrategy! Yes, we could be wrong, but we will make tons of experiences and our group will definitely hit the audience of The Real World!

VERY SPECIAL thanks for the power and the brave of our leader Vegasguy, who impressed me deep. It was a very long time, that I met these kind of leadership!

Also very special thanks to Matthias from Europecoin to hit my sense here!

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November 21, 2015, 03:28:36 PM
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Hi.
I have a problem with my wallet. I used version 1.6.1. Before I tried to change to 1.6.2, I saved wallet.dat file. Then I followed 6-step procedure like explained of forum. Wallet 1.6.2 synced OK, but when I put wallet.dat file back into Roaming directory, wallet crashes. I tried 10 times. Any suggestions?

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November 21, 2015, 03:52:08 PM
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Hi.
I have a problem with my wallet. I used version 1.6.1. Before I tried to change to 1.6.2, I saved wallet.dat file. Then I followed 6-step procedure like explained of forum. Wallet 1.6.2 synced OK, but when I put wallet.dat file back into Roaming directory, wallet crashes. I tried 10 times. Any suggestions?

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You have to dump ur privatekey on version 1.6.1 with ur old wallet.dat...

After this, you have to import privkey into version 1.6.2...
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