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This one's going to the moon boys. Hold on to your seats!
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I am Francis Pouliot, the Director of Public Affairs at the Bitcoin Embassy, and in that respect I am the ultimate responsible for partnerships and agreements.
I confirm: there is no, have never been, and will never be any partnership or agreement between the Bitcoin Embassy and Potcoin leaders (nor any other "altcoin" representatives).
Thus, it should be clear that news article circulating that there is an agreement with the Bitcoin Embassy is entirely false. This is the definition of fake news
They have agreed to remove that mention from their press release, a clear admission of guilt.
Because I am horrified by the idea that the Bitcoin Embassy would be associated to Potcoin because of their press releases and media pumping, I'll share some thoughts.
How could they possibly think they could get away with this? Here is some context:
1. The Bitcoin Embassy is a non-profit organization founded in 2013. It is hosted on the third floor of a building which hosts numerous Bitcoin projects.
2. On the first floor of the building which hosts the Bitcoin Embassy, there is a physical Bitcoin Exchange called Satoshi Counter. Some traders there (myself included) often suggest our clients to use shapeshift to transform altcoins to bitcoins, after which we can buy the bitcoins off of them. In that case, the clients are transaction with Shapeshift, and not with us directly. One of the foudners of the Bitcoin Embassy is also a founder of Satoshi Counter.
3. Potcoin representatives were told by a trader at Satoshi Counter how they could use shapeshift to exchange their Potcoins, like any other altcoin, for Bitcoin, after which they could buy/sell bitcoins at Satoshi Counter, like any client does.
4. The Bitcoin Embassy was never consulted in anyway by Potcoin. I was notified of this news by a Google alert. There is no agreement, either verbal or in writing. There is certainly no partnership, nor contract of any kind. Myself and transisto are the only two people involved in both organizations, but there are many more different people involved with Satoshi Counter and many other involved with the Bitcoin Embassy, and both organizations are effectively completely separate.
5. There is no agreement, partnership of any kind between Potcoin and Satoshi Counter either. It's not a question of semantics here. As people, none of use would EVER engage in any partnership with the leaders of Potcoin.
Let's be 100% clear: this was an extremely unethical and deceptive use the Bitcoin Embassy logo, name and reputation without our consent.
It could have passed off as an honest mistake, but not only did they not comply to my requests to have them take down reddit post and tweets, they actually started negotiating and asking me to remove tweets and reddit posts criticizing them.
If it wasn't clear enough, and with all respect to this community, I personally am offended by the very idea that the Bitcoin Embassy could be associated to Potcoin. A more cynical person than myself would call Potcoin an obvious ponzi scheme which has no other purpose than speculation, and which is specifically crafted to create a sense of community to attract what traders will call "bagholders" which allow earlier investors to cash out.
Why would anybody merchant accept Potcoin instead of Bitcoin? What is the value proposition? It's like litecoin, but it's has a more limited market potential? And it's not even like litecoin, because the development team is inactive.
Potcoin is basically a gift card that only lets buy at VERY LIMITED number of stores. Who in his right mind would trade a liquid currency for that, unless you do it right away before a purchase because there is a discount?
It's a vastly inferior clone that is dramatically less secure, liquid or useful. I can probably do a Potcoin clone equivalent in a few minutes. Even the copyright information of Potcoin shows that it is a clone of Bitocin and Litecoin, just worse.
The Bitcoin Embassy has almost never endorsed any product or service. We would NEVER endorse any cryptocurrency other than Bitcoin. Nobody in their right mind would endorse Potcoin, unless it was out of ignorance or naivety at best, and greed and in the pursuit of personal profit at worse.
Anybody caught promoting Potcoin on the Bitcoin Embassy premises will be immediately expelled with a permanent ban.
I have to admint I am biased, since I was very angry when we caught one of the Core members of the Potcoin team puting a sticker on one of our windows, which was a pain in the ass to take off. You know who you are, you had a baseball cap and were walking your dog and got caught by our cameras.
I continue to encourage cyrptocurrency innovation, but using deceptive marketing to enrich earlier investors is not innovation.
Looks like Sharon Peretz tried to pull the wool over your eyes. Glad it did not work and super glad I never went ahead with the hook up I offered them. |
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I am the director of the Bitcoin Embassy, and authorized to speak on behalf of the organization.
The Bitcoin Embassy has never and would never enter in any partnership with "Potcoin".
In addition, the Bitcoin Embassy is not a Bitcoin Exchange and has never been.
In the strongest possible terms, we ask you to remove this fake news article.
Wow. Why is the potcoin team lying to all of us? They must be a bunch of scammy fuckers. I'll be very interested in what the dev have to say about this because if they have lied to us all then it won't go down well with thhe investors who truly believe in POT coin like myself. I'll wait and see what the dev has to say first on the matter before making any decisions. What's there a need to wait its not like the devs can say "oh sorry, we thought we had a partnership with them" Its obvious that the dev team only cares about their own profits and not the investors. There is news coming oit about people losing their potcoin in the potcoin wallet too now. I think this is all about to unravel in a bad way. |
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At least finally someone got in touch with elitepvp
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I am the director of the Bitcoin Embassy, and authorized to speak on behalf of the organization.
The Bitcoin Embassy has never and would never enter in any partnership with "Potcoin".
In addition, the Bitcoin Embassy is not a Bitcoin Exchange and has never been.
In the strongest possible terms, we ask you to remove this fake news article.
Cant you give them red trust for this scam? |
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I am the director of the Bitcoin Embassy, and authorized to speak on behalf of the organization.
The Bitcoin Embassy has never and would never enter in any partnership with "Potcoin".
In addition, the Bitcoin Embassy is not a Bitcoin Exchange and has never been.
In the strongest possible terms, we ask you to remove this fake news article.
Wow. Why is the potcoin team lying to all of us? They must be a bunch of scammy fuckers. |
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That is quite an accusation you are making now. This was told to you directly from Adam?
Ace, Care to reply?
Direct from the horses mouth, he told me more information too but im still waiting for the dev to admit or deny his involvement with viralcoin and its developers. Ace was asked to help consult for VIRAL and he was compensated a small amount for doing so. He was never a part of the development team. That is as far as his involvement with VIRAL goes. However, this has absolutely nothing to do with APX Ventures. Now that is scary because now I know the rest of what adam told me must be true. Is it true that Ace had another ico for some traders coin? Is it also true that ace was brought into viralcoin by his "best buddy" Bobsurplus who is the king of scams? |
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Devs friends are coming out now to fight, ok?
Let's fight!
But first we need to find out if Adam is a liar or if the dev did work on that ico, got paid, and then ran away with his money.
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That is quite an accusation you are making now. This was told to you directly from Adam?
Ace, Care to reply?
Direct from the horses mouth, he told me more information too but im still waiting for the dev to admit or deny his involvement with viralcoin and its developers. |
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Hello APX. Have you developed any coins before, or been part of any coin development teams? Have you ever been paid from an ICO before?
Hello dev. It looks like you must have missed my questions, totally understandable, you must be a busy person.
Can you please answer my questions now though. Thank you.
Have you developed any coins before, or been part of any coin development teams? Have you ever been paid from an ICO before? |
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You can keep making baseless accusations or you can simply do as instructed! Up to you.
If you aren't willing to make the effort of creating a slack or telegram account (which is very easy), then do you really care about this project? You can consider it shady all you want but we have been conducting majority of communications through our slack and telegram ever since the beginning so there is no change. We have been consistent since the creation of this thread.
There are many ppl who doesn't want to make the 1000th account for reading something. Every time after creating, I'm receiving more and more spam and crypto-phishing on the mail accounts... And it seems telegram asks for a phone-number!? - no way! edit: typo Honestly if you are serious about due diligence on an investment project you will use a throwaway email and a throwaway Google Voice phone number to sign up for services you don't expect to continue to use. To those people who are not interested in doing that, there's no obligation for APX to step outside its chosen channels especially for you. The Do Your Own Research ethos involves effort on Your part. The dev could be a scamer and now you are standing up for him? You must be in on this scam as well. |
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I never refused to answer his question, please learn to read.
If he is genuinely interested in the project I invite him to join our slack or telegram.
Once again, as stated multiple times
Please note that slack and telegram are our main methods of communication
Bitcointalk is not a priority for us in terms of communication. If you want to know more, please simply follow instructions. Ur communicating right. Just answer the question. I dont do slack, this is where I ask questions before deciding on investing or not. Why you feel the need to not reply here but only in ur slack is beyond me. Please answer my questions. Many people are curious. All you need to do is create an account, you don't even need to install Slack. Why you cannot simply create a slack account is beyond me. It will take you less than one minute. If you look at the previous responses provided by the APX Team, we have been responding consistently in the same manner to everyone so we are not giving you 'special treatment'. If anyone is genuinely interested in the project, please join telegram or slack like the 400 other people who have. We have addressed every single question to everyone's complete satisfaction. I don't quite get it. What are you saying for many posts is: "i can't answer you here, join slack and you'll get an answer" but why couldn't you simply answer here? Whouldn't that be faster than repeating to join slack and only then answering? What's really the point? Looks shady to be honest You can keep making baseless accusations or you can simply do as instructed! Up to you. If you aren't willing to make the effort of creating a slack or telegram account (which is very easy), then do you really care about this project? You can consider it shady all you want but we have been conducting majority of communications through our slack and telegram ever since the beginning so there is no change. We have been consistent since the creation of this thread. Im not the one begging for money on a forum. You are. And as such I have the right to ask you any questions, If you dont want to answer that's ur call but it will show negatively on you and your project. I also never once made any accusations, baseless or full of warrant. I just asked you three simple questions which still two days later you refuse to answer. Let me ask you a more direct question then. Adam Guerbuez has told me you worked with him on the Viralcoin ico and that you got paid and then ran from the project? Is that information accurate? Some information on Adam, in case you forgot him. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1830790.0https://steemit.com/crypto/@fyrstikken/why-i-decided-to-dump-flibbr-and-adam-guerbuez-from-stakepool-comhttps://forums.burst-team.us/topic/4409/viral-coin-mr-adam-guerbez-and-the-missing-200-bitcoin |
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Hello APX. Have you developed any coins before, or been part of any coin development teams? Have you ever been paid from an ICO before?
Hello dev. It looks like you must have missed my questions, totally understandable, you must be a busy person.
Can you please answer my questions now though. Thank you.
Have you developed any coins before, or been part of any coin development teams? Have you ever been paid from an ICO before?What does coin development has to do with anything here? They are not developing a coin, they are issuing tokens. It matters if he has a previous track record that we need to know about. |
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I never refused to answer his question, please learn to read.
If he is genuinely interested in the project I invite him to join our slack or telegram.
Once again, as stated multiple times
Please note that slack and telegram are our main methods of communication
Bitcointalk is not a priority for us in terms of communication. If you want to know more, please simply follow instructions. Ur communicating right now. Just answer the question. I dont do slack, this is where I ask questions before deciding on investing or not. Why you feel the need to not reply here but only in ur slack is beyond me. Please answer my questions. Many people are curious. |
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Ace, for what reason are you skipping this dudes questions.
His signature says more than enough. If he is genuinely interested in the project I invite him to join our slack or telegram. You're not answering my questions because of my signature? That sounds like a business man I want to invest in. LMAO. No seriously, I never even once eluded to this being a scam, im just wondering if what I heard was true and that's why im coming to you and asking you first before making and decisions. Will you please answer my questions now. Thank you. |
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Hello APX. Have you developed any coins before, or been part of any coin development teams? Have you ever been paid from an ICO before?
Hello dev. It looks like you must have missed my questions, totally understandable, you must be a busy person.
Can you please answer my questions now though. Thank you.
Have you developed any coins before, or been part of any coin development teams? Have you ever been paid from an ICO before? |
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Hello APX. Have you developed any coins before, or been part of any coin development teams? Have you ever been paid from an ICO before?
Hello dev. It looks like you must have missed my questions, totally understandable, you must be a busy person.
Can you please answer my questions now though. Thank you.
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Hello APX. Have you developed any coins before, or been part of any coin development teams? Have you ever been paid from an ICO before?
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1MuGmLMor1rbdR2BVwY1D7LbfEWrftS2eK = for yobit listing thingy.... Send donations to above address and when it gets enough or a little bit more (how much? 0.5 BTC for "Exclusive" listing) then I will apply. https://yobit.net/en/addcoin/Please do not send anything smaller than 0.01 as it will just get eaten up in transaction fees. Dabs If it hits 0.4 you can count on me for the last 0....1 I think it is better to show support now and make it gain momentum. I don't really understand what happened. I was told the team has applied to Yobit before I have shown my support and everyone in the discord knows that if I say something, I'll do it. Get to 0.4 and I'll gladly send in the last 0.1 btc. |
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1MuGmLMor1rbdR2BVwY1D7LbfEWrftS2eK = for yobit listing thingy.... Send donations to above address and when it gets enough or a little bit more (how much? 0.5 BTC for "Exclusive" listing) then I will apply. https://yobit.net/en/addcoin/Please do not send anything smaller than 0.01 as it will just get eaten up in transaction fees. Dabs If it hits 0.4 you can count on me for the last 0....1 |
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