[Proving he just does anything lauda tells him to because he is scared of lauda and his DT red trusting gang of abusers. He has been placed on DT as another of their pathetic puppets.]

Here is a message the weak little bitch lfc bitcoin sent to his "friend" that lauda ordered him to remove from DT because that "friend" dared to stand up to VOD (another untrustworthy piece of shit trust abuser and doxxer of trustworthy established members ) - this is how scammers like lauda operate they find little bitches like LFC bitcoin to back their untrustworthy actions and games this broken DT system)

Proving he just does anything lauda tells him to because he is scared of lauda and his DT red trusting gang of abusers. He has been placed on DT as another of their pathetic puppets.

Relevant PM I received :

bill, I feel like a right ass hole but Lauda messaged me ... about you. She told me I should remove you from my trust list. I really didn’t want to do it because I do like you (a lot).

For my own comfort & to make my life easier I did it. I don’t want to get on the wrong side of them.

I am really sorry & I feel a dick for doing it. I had to tell you myself though before you see it yourself.

I hope you can forgive me.

LFC

Laudas Feltching Clown or Laudas Favorite Cum guzzler?


Feel free to review this persons post history. The vast majority is pure garbage 1 liners that most people would get banned for.


1. most of it is 1 liner "guesses" about the price of bitcoin?
2. sports betting junk
3. Anything else is largely groundless opinions, and meme's?
4. Zero achievements of any note at all? he could have never joined and nothing would be ANY different at all?


How did this person gain so much merit? and how does such a shit poster deserve to be a merit source and DT member?

12 000 posts of mostly 1 liner junk that would get most people banned now.

Pre 2017 is almost nightmarish to the reader. Most look like spam or bot posts.

Now start to recognize this in a post where he attacks us first calling us childish names, and sending us very strange memes (we assumed his family member) but now it appears to be a person suffering from some kind of genetic problems??

This person thinks posting pictures of persons suffering from some genetic defects is largely funny??

My autism spectrum is going off again. cryptohunter, seriously what do you ever gain from making threads like this?

Same shit, different day.

 

Sorry to hear you are suffering again.

Read the OP. Try to work things out on your own. If you need assistance to enter the debate then ask your parents or career to help you form a sensible post.

[Also trying to weaponize the deleted posts gamed metric for getting people banned.]

Local rules - no opinions to be given without supporting examples. Bored of talking with idiots who spout false allegations and then run away when you ask for examples.



More one sided corrupt moderators here colluding with scum bags to help them hide their dirty pasts. Also trying to weaponize the deleted posts gamed metric for getting people banned.  These posts are not off topic, they are relevant (more than their posts) and still they get deleted.This forums slides more into an echo chamber daily.



So we noticed that the "shit posts so bad they are actually funny" thread had become another opportunity for shit posters and corrupt mods to flame honest whistle blowers and take the sides of observable liars and scammers and those with sickening double standards.

Your signature is better than mine, ok maybe you would be agree to give me your spot in this case?

Even if he agreed to give his spot to you, I don't think you can be qualified to enter the Chipmixer Campaign. Move on buddy. In fact, I can guess that you can't tell us what good things have you ever done here before...

This ain't ought to be funny but a SAVAGE one!  

Which mod deleted it?

I did. Feel free to rant all you want in your own topics, but quit derailing unrelated topics.

(I just laughed about 2 seconds though )

This what I see after theymos post that to CH
via Imgflip Meme Generator

We notice the mod that likes to enable observable scammers and liars,probable extortionists,trust abusers , and sneaky greedy racist trolling sig spammers on to DT to positions of trust wants to jump in with his own false accusations and general shit posting. Having this type of person with access to ANY private information is quite worrying. Obviously colluding with the observably untrustworthy bunch on here.

Which mod deleted it?

I did. Feel free to rant all you want in your own topics, but quit derailing unrelated topics.

(I just laughed about 2 seconds though )

This what I see after theymos post that to CH
via Imgflip Meme Generator

Ha. I never saw that one. Maybe that's why CH has sulked off pretending to be banned.

I wonder if he did actually get a short ban or just took the hint and started on another. Maybe he thinks he can have a separate account for trolling to save the other:

Nothing in that huge rant has really anything to do with the case involving HostFat and therocktrading. You mentioned HostFat, but you didn't actually address anything related to the topic; you just tried yet another filibuster on your DT talking points.

We see you doing this over and over again. There are 61 good reports against you in the last 60 days. You're going to get banned if you keep this up.

We then quote a shit post that is so bad it is more than funny. I mean you can not actually get more funny that a person calling others evil and demanding they get red trust for selling their accounts that then goes and advertises for sale their own account can you?

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

Which mod deleted it?

I did. Feel free to rant all you want in your own topics, but quit derailing unrelated topics.

(I just laughed about 2 seconds though )

This what I see after theymos post that to CH
via Imgflip Meme Generator

Ha. I never saw that one. Maybe that's why CH has sulked off pretending to be banned.

I wonder if he did actually get a short ban or just took the hint and started on another. Maybe he thinks he can have a separate account for trolling to save the other:

Nothing in that huge rant has really anything to do with the case involving HostFat and therocktrading. You mentioned HostFat, but you didn't actually address anything related to the topic; you just tried yet another filibuster on your DT talking points.

We see you doing this over and over again. There are 61 good reports against you in the last 60 days. You're going to get banned if you keep this up.

LOL. Would be great if he was actually banned. Then we can pin his alts for ban evasion. This person may be intelligent but still has deep seeded psychiatric issues that border on the level of psychotic. I realize that's never been a valid reason to ban people in the past but rules is rules. Trolls are trolls, and spam is spam.

deep-seated? perhaps Notildah LOL

this one is hilarious, well not as hilarious as watching hilarious pretend to be objective and impartial. Still pretty funny I hope you all agree.

Nutildah lecturing others on selling their accounts and how untrustworthy and evil it is before trying to sell his own... or did he sell it?

Monitoring is underway.

I'm collecting two lists, one of account sellers and the other of account buyers. I will be sure to post this information, links and dates so everybody can see who to avoid from now on.

But this is obfuscated by the fact that most people don't know that they are reading the words of a bought account. There is no honesty or redeemable qualities in your arguments, you're simply trying to defend borderline evil behavior for your own selfish financial reasons.

followed by  this posted by the same user in 2016

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1622642.msg16312368#msg16312368

Name:   nutildah
Posts:   2152
Activity:   560
Position:   Hero Member
Date Registered:   April 19, 2014, 11:50:27 AM
Trust:   0: -0 / +0

My posts were frequently contentious and sometimes downright argumentative, but that's because I'm a real person who was genuinely interested in bitcoin and this forum, and I wasn't just trying to build up an account to sell it or do sig campaigns.

Its a completely anonymous account, never been linked to my real identity. I stopped posting for the most part about 6 months ago.

I would like 0.3 BTC for it.

You can get back to me here or via PM. Thanks!


That was very funny this is why he does not like people trolling telling the truth, they need to be banned. Please ban anyone who tells the truth about us. We don't like it. Makes us look foolish and untrustworthy EVIL.

now that post is indeed so shit it is funny, and a rebuttal to the false allegations and garbage hilarious and co spews out but can never provide any examples or evidence for . WAIT IT IS DELETED?

On what grounds if the others remain exactly??

which mod deleted it, who reported it, and let's see your reasoning on it.

[1. Trust explanation in trust settings for improved forum peace]

Examples of deleted posts we disagree with. Reasons provided. It would seem responding to false accusations, or questioning unsubstantiated claims with a challenge, or pointing out observable double standards is not permitted flow.


1.  Trust explanation in trust settings for improved forum peace

The following post contains smarmacists usual net negative shit post: containing false accusations, that he has been called on many times but failed to present any examples, therefore he is trolling again.

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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

This is incorrect. Leaving positive trust for another user if you are DT1 does not make them DT2. This is achieved by adding their name to your own individual trust list.

Yep, that's the first thing I noticed, and I misunderstood that for quite a while before being corrected by Lutpin a while back.  OP is certainly correct that there are a lot of misconceptions about the trust system, even among older members--and that's not surprising, since it is a bit complicated.

Explaining everyone the implications of the forum trust will make it possible to wipe out a good bunch of strife on the forum.

I applaud your effort here, SebastianJu, but I disagree with the above statement.  Though a lot of members really don't understand the mechanics of how the trust system works, I seriously doubt educating people is going to reduce strife.  Why?  Because most of that strife stems from jealousy, resentment of authority, and hard feelings because of negative trust received by DT members.  No amount of education is going to eliminate that.  I'm confident members like cryptohunter, Thule, and that bunch of trolls know how everything works, and they're going to keep riling everybody up no matter how many tutorials are posted.

But again, this is a good effort on your part and should help people understand how the system works.  That in itself is a good thing.

I disagree with the smarmacist. He likes to post false accusations and general low value noise. These types of net negative shit posts are pretty much his limit. I would expect that if red trust was reserved ONLY for scammers and those STRONGLY likely to scam, then their would be far far less conflict. Until that happens I suspect trust abusers will be called to answer for their observably untrustworthy actions on a regular basis, by those that wish to see the standards of free speech we have seen here over the years, continue.

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The post that is deleted here simply makes a rebuttal to pharmacists false accusations, a sensible suggestion that WOULD increase forum peace, and a sensible  statement regarding pharmacists general net negative shit posts (he has been challenged many times to present some of his original thought inspiring posts and he can not present even 1,) The repeated trolling claims from him have been debunked many times previously. We did not even mention that he again is whining on about trolling when he was caught red handed being a sneaky greedy racist trolling sig spammer under a sock puppet  HugeBlackWoman (which again would highlight his double standards net negative shit posts)



2. Another sensible challenge to a claim lacking evidence , on a thread about earning money on the forum by posting and other means.

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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

Can you please provide some of your very best posts here for perusal.

He doesn't have to prove anything to anyone or you. His record says it all. With the merit system it'll be hard for any spammer to make it pass the member rank status. You don't have to be an extraordinary poster to recieve some merit, instead of hating on those that are receiving merit they deserve maybe if you take you time to read through their post history, you'll learn one or two on producing quality post. If you have gone through his post history and can't find a quality post then you need some help. The problem is from you not him.

You seem to be going off topic - so just present his posts for people to examine for some benchmarks to earn some btc crumbs each month or not. I don't need your 3rd world ass kissing for merits speech.

What record?

Couldn't locate any sign of an original thought inspiring post anywhere?  Their posts consist a lot of regurgitated and ass kissing junk to keep favor with the merit cyclers here.
If you can not present anything of worth for me to examine after claiming there are many to the point the are impossible to miss. Then I will need to question your merit source application. It would seem you do not have the genetic capacity to distinguish a post of value from low value noise.

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Another sensible reply deleted. The cryptomanurebrainlessboss is claiming that if you review LFC BTC posts it will be impossible to miss the excellent merit worthy contributions. He is pretty much claiming if you just present worthless junk like LFC BTC you will soon be getting merits, and earning like him. I am asking him to present one example of an excellent post LFC BTC has made. He can not find one obviously?


3. A thread where the  Mod Hilarious and co is defending his actions against MDO.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5135175.msg50736638#msg50736638

MDO makes several claims that Hilarious  and co is treating him in a different way to which he treats other members, we believe this claim does have some clear grounding.


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Quotes below from MDO

"I need to understand forum moderation policy. Is it specific for individuals?"

"Not sure how many more users are victim of your bullshits and master manipulation"

"I have issues with this dipshit hilariousetc aka global mod hilariousandco. To me he is nothing but a blatant liar, a master manipulator who is using his influence in the forum."



Quotes from hilarious and co.

"There isn't any. Master manipulation is laughable. What have I manipulated exactly and for what gain? What do I get from exposing you? Are you saying liars, scammers and merit abusers shouldn't be outed? "

"There's a slither of doubt because there's no concrete evidence only circumstantial, but as you said I strongly believe them to be the same based on the evidence we've already been through. There's too many coincidences and quirks though. If this was taken to court then a jury probably wouldn't convict based on not enough concrete evidence, but that doesn't mean that there's no guilt, just not enough to convict. Plenty of people get away with crimes because of this. Everyone knows OJ killed his wife but that wasn't found to be in a court of law"

"I wouldn't say malicious but the ponzi promoting to me is an issue and I would question the lengths he will go to make money. Had he received money from the escrow he may have immediately vanished. Or he may have performed his escrow duties as hoped but I would have been very surprised if that happened, but I guess we'll never know."

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Our sensible on topic and highly relevant reply that demonstrates clearly that MDO does have reason to question and highlight hilarious and co "DIFFERENT" approach to his "friends" behaviors of lying, scamming, and other things that likely meet the OJ threshold of guilt that he mentions.

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MDO is claiming you seem to be treating him unfairly. I would say that he does have a compelling case. I will explain.

I say this because you clearly seem far more "worried" about the lengths he would go to to earn money based on supporting some ponzi. This you claim is an issue for you.

However, it is observable that you seem far LESS worried about other members who have observably lied to dupe investors for financial gain (scamming), they have abused trust to silence members discussing their pasts, they have been implicated in SERIOUS extortion schemes? and yet you are not only NOT worried about them?? You actually feel that you should support them on DT1 and vouch for them?  So either he has a clear case or you are very very confused about the types of people you should worry about and have issue with?

How about explaining this to the board so we can understand your reasoning here? I personally could care less if MDO has red or leaves the board. However, double standards from persons in positions of trust are concerning. You should take a stand AGAINST observable scammers and liars and trust abusers and yet you seem to take THEIR side against honest members.

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4. SEE BELOW

[As for your account being ruined if you tag one of them, I’m well aware. I guess the difference is that I do what I feel is right regardless of how it may effect me, and you appear to be having your true opinions silenced out of fear. So forgive me if I take your criticisms with a grain of salt.]

Local rules - only the most senior admin may comment on this thread.  

Only Cobra, Cyrus and Theymos may reply. Satoshi can chime in, if he feels strongly about the situation, which I expect he would.

Red trust is clearly being used by certain DT members as a weapon to silence whistle blowers and crush free speech here in general.

If anyone mentions the prior observable wrong doing of certain DT members they are immediately given red trust to silence them.
One needs to only say they will encourage others to review those DT's post histories and you will get red trust.
If one complains and tell the DT members they are not allowed to give red trust for presenting facts regarding them or their friends wrong doing. They they say " I can, I will, and I just have". Their abuse is brazen and open.

This is 100% perverting the very reason for having default trust.

I can bring clear observable evidence to demonstrate what I am claiming is true and taking place on this forum.

What are you going to do about this situation?  It seems a core of about 5 or 6 DT are doing this, but the entire DT system is full of others that will do NOTHING about this kind of abuse and will actually condone it.

There are numerous instances of clear double standards and corrupt behavior.

The implications for free speech here are quite bleak. It seems irresponsible to allow individuals that have been demonstrated untrustworthy on numerous occasions to be given leverage on this board to gain trust of the most vulnerable and silence any whistle blowers. Since their past untrustworthy behaviors are clearly observable there can be no sensible and responsible reason to let them continue in these positions of trust that leaves the entire board vulnerable to their actions.

Why are these people not blacklisted from the trust system?

At the very least bring them in line with a clear RULE. Red trust to be issued for proven scams and scammers or those you can present a STRONG case are about to scam or have scammed. All other red trust must be removed and those breaking this rule will be black listed?

What is so difficult about issuing this command to save the board from this abusive and corrupt bunch of DT members that have grasped control of the trust system?

Other members seem to have recognized this a while back

but this latest drama with Lauda has opened my eyes a bit...

Yeah, I've distanced myself with her.  What can you do?  You speak out and you get negative trust...

How do I defriend Lauda without getting negative trust from her and ruining five years?

Do you think it’s acceptable that Lauda hasn’t tagged aTriz yet? Do you think there is any reason why everyone shouldn’t tag aTriz for what he did?

Let me answer that this way - how can I leave negative trust for either of them without ruining my account?

As for your account being ruined if you tag one of them, I’m well aware. I guess the difference is that I do what I feel is right regardless of how it may effect me, and you appear to be having your true opinions silenced out of fear. So forgive me if I take your criticisms with a grain of salt.

This is a broad discussion, to establish some clear rules on suspected hacked or sold accounts in relation to positions of TRUST.

Would it be considered appropriate or even high risk to allow persons on DT who have possibly bought their account( account was offered for sale) and recently begging for tiny loans 0.02btc?
I feel this sort of account should be kept away from DT?

We notice  a vip was given red trust. That account was not reported hacked or sold. There was no proof it was ever sold, or hacked, but was given red trust. It was argued, it was dangerous to allow a vip member to go without red trust, that MAY have been sold or hacked.

It was mentioned on that thread that he had voice STRONG VIEWS on some DT members and the trust system. It was those members that saw fit to apply the red trust, coincidentally.

It is accepted here that DT's are permitted to give red trust to members who ask for a public examination of their past histories? On the basis of those histories then examine if they are suitable to be DT and examine if they are appropriate choices for projects to select to represent them?

So no member may ask questions regarding a DT members past ? or they will receive red trust? is this correct?

This does not seem to me to be a very suitable name for this system. This system would appear to facilitate hiding the truth?

DT is a system to punish whistle blowers? and reward scammers and liars?

I just want to understand how this works?

This is not a reputation topic. I wish this thread to remain in meta and receive my answer here.

I notice that asking questions and the public examination of evidence is now worthy of red trust?

Whistle blowers are getting a hard time lately?

Does Hhampuz  knowingly choose to employ and sponsor people that are Liars, Scam pushers, trust abusers and those implicated in extortion schemes and other shady escrow deals ? whilst refusing people into these lucrative campaign deals on the basis of the opinions  of these liars, scammers, possible extortionists and trust abusers?

Are these probable  crooks and liars are able to red trust who they like, for whatever reason they decide, and even get those people banned for telling the truth about them?

Does Fortune Jack know about this and are they complicit in sponsoring the activities of those types of individuals that use their powers here as DT members and merit sources to silence those that try to whistle blow on them?

This will be the first of many threads started to examine the possible actions of campaign managers and their projects and their sponsorship of perhaps some of the most shady people on this entire board whilst refusing honest members merely on some red marks actual scammers and liars wish to put on their accounts. Or some silly merit score that they and their friends control a vast proportion of?

Before we present the evidence for public analysis. Let see what other members have to say. Posts will be deleted if not accompanied by evidence, off topic or deemed irrelevant by myself.

Perhaps any fake red trust applied to honest members accounts not directly related to scams and scamming should be removed? Why should honest members suffer at the hands of those that have committed far worse atrocities ? whilst they cream off the best deals for them selves and their friends?  Perhaps anyone that has been banned for simply whistle blowing or under some false pretense should be reinstated immediately?


Edit - we notice already that one of the possible liars, scammers and probable extortionists has tried to damage my account for merely asking for an investigation?

A clear violation of DT and another clear example of red trust being used to prevent any whilst blowing. They are perverting the very nature of the trust system.

This thread and many others will not be going away until red trust can no longer be used to silence whilst blowing. They fear examination of facts to such an extent they will try everything to prevent it taking place on a public board.