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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: June 06, 2013, 10:43:30 PM
Yeah I'm sub 200 pre-order and +1000 order (paid). I guess we'll see in the next few days once pre-order's expire.

I sent an email to Sam at KnCMiner a day ago and still haven't heard back.  It would be really nice to find this information out.  If my pre-order number is my place in line, then I am very confused because I ordered a 1-500 Jupiter.  How can I be the 17## place in line for 500 units, unless they are over-selling like crazy!  Seems that it goes both ways since your pre-order number is sub 200, but your order number is +1000.  Makes me very nervous to make a $7000+ payment when the order number and the pre-order numbers don't make sense!
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: June 06, 2013, 10:25:03 PM
Does anyone have a quote from Sam from KnCMiner that has him saying that the order number for the origional pre-order emails back in april do not represent your place in line?  Also, once you receive the order number like my order number 40# from putting in an order on Monday will stay place 40#/500 even though the pre-order email back in april said order number 17## as long is it is paid?
23  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: KnCMiner Jupiter 1-500 (Two Pre-Orders) on: June 05, 2013, 07:08:14 PM
Sold!  Transaction is pending.

Thank you for checking out my listing!
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [LTC] Litecoin = ASIC resistant is a lie! on: June 05, 2013, 01:44:47 AM
A much cheaper and easier solution is to interface the memory on the PCB, no need to have the memory directly inside the die.

its a matter is distance.  its expensive to have to go out to the PCB.  updated my post above.

I don't think that is true.  Take a GPU card for instance.  A GPU card has it's memory on the PCB board which it accesses through an ASIC chip.
25  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnCMiner Openday Wednesday 5th & Monday 10th June on: June 05, 2013, 01:35:17 AM
Can't wait!  I'm really glad they give you 7 days to pay for the pre-orders or else I probably wouldn't have put in an order.
26  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNCMINER URGENT!!! on: June 05, 2013, 12:47:49 AM
KNCMiner Is new you know. I have no knowledge about them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foeBUcagT2s

I'm in the same boat!  We should know more as the week progresses.  There is supposed to be an openday tomorrow for people to tour the facility and another openday next Monday.
27  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNCMiner Sell order# on: June 05, 2013, 12:20:37 AM
I'm interested in a pre #200 unit.  PM me with your info.

Thanks

I heard they will not be shipping until all units are made, but that might not be true.  When I sent an email to Sam asking that question he said that they'll be shipping as many as they can fit into a UPS truck, so i don't think it'll be a big deal which order number you are as long as you are in the first 500.
28  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: KnCMiner Jupiter 1-500 (Two Pre-Orders) on: June 05, 2013, 12:16:38 AM
What is the price?  Just wondering.  I sold mine few days ago...(maybe too early)

Current price is 5btc for both or 3btc for one.
29  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnCMiner order/shipment mess and unfairness on: June 05, 2013, 12:14:51 AM
To be fare to KnCMiner, they are probably swamped with email right now.  It took them about 24 hours to get back to me through email.
30  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnCMiner order/shipment mess and unfairness on: June 05, 2013, 12:04:25 AM
You didn't need to order a Mars to get into the first 500 Jupiters.  I was able to place two pre-orders, both within the first 500, and I didn't place any order for a Mars unit.
31  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: KnCMiner Jupiter 1-500 (Two Pre-Orders) on: June 04, 2013, 10:00:59 PM
So you are selling the pre-order queue spot or the actually pre-order? Meaning, are they paid for?

There is a little confusion with this.  A couple months ago you could sign up for the pre-order and once you did you received an order number of sorts.  This number didn't mean anything, just that you would be eligable for buying one of the first (1-500) batch units.  Yesterday, KnCMiner opened up the "real" pre-orders and for each pre-order you have seven days to pay so that you keep your "place" in the queue.  My two orders are real pre-orders which I will sell to whomever wants them.  Both have not been paid for yet, but will need to be paid for or else the place in the queue will be lost.

I've been in contact with KnCMiner and have confirmed my "place" in the queue and that the transfer of my pre-orders can take place separately.  This will allow you to receive one of the first 500 Jupiter units made.

If you need more confirmation please send me a pm and I will cc you on an email to KnCMiner.

Here is a quote I just found from KnCMiner on these forums:

Your place is only worth something if you have already paid. 
The order you'll get your unit is determined by when you send them money - so... if you have not paid, then a number from a contact form doesn't have much value.  Undecided

Hi, Actually this is NOT true

We will open up the order books soon and give everyone a chance to pay for their preorder (7 days), We will then ship them based on the preorder registration number, not when the order was paid for

as long as the order is paid for within the 7 days we will honor the queue placement. if you pay on day 8 you will simply enter the queue from the back

I hope this helps

if you do sell your order number all I will need is an email from both parties and I will do the rest, they will get your queue placement. it canít however be for more than your registered amount of boxes and we will not split preorders into multiplies

Sam@kncminer.com

32  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Are GPUs still relevant and for how long on: June 04, 2013, 09:35:11 PM
Here's my take:

I have tried to do a lot of research and used calculators etc, however there is a lot of guesswork and I would appreciate more informed opinions.

With ASICs on the horizon - If I were to invest in GPUs:

1) Am I likely to get at least my money back?

Right now, yes.  It will depend on how many months you will mine 24/7, but you can earn your money back.  If I had to guess long-term the answer will still be yes because there are some promising Alt coins out there that are gaining momentum.  

2) Are there realistic options in Alt currencies that the GPU could be useful for vs ASIC - can ASIC at this point or in the near future be used in Alt?

There are several Alt currencies that you can look at for GPU mining.  I like WDC, DGC, BitBar, and Litecoin.  Check out http://www.coinchoose.com/ for profitability compared to Bitcoin or Litecoin.

And, yes/no, ASIC machines will not work well on scrypt based Alt coins due to the memory demands of the scrypt algorithm.  There's only a few Alt coins that an ASIC machine will work on right now, just check which alg the coin uses.  ASICs like the SHA-256 alg.


3) Are there any realistic ASIC options at this point, all the sellers seem rather dodgy to me?

You should define "realistic."  If you mean more affordable (Around the $1000 mark) then the answer is yes, but you may have to wait (pre-order), or buy from eBay.

4) What other angles could I look at other than actually buying Bitcoin of course?

One option that I haven't seen on here yet is trading BTC on an exchange.  Be careful though because loosing money is almost easier than earning it.

Feel free to add any other pearls of wisdom that spring to mind...

Thanks for your time.
33  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: running HD7970 and HD5970 together on: June 04, 2013, 09:00:53 PM
Ok, wanted to give a followup.

I finally have the cards working together.  Now only one 7970 and two 5970s because the xfx 7970 decided to stop working Sad.

I'm using only the newest drivers: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx

Catalyst 12.1 video drivers istalled fine for the 5970s, but the 7970 wasn't recognized.  Then I tried 12.8, which was a little better.  The 7970 was recognized, but wouldn't start.

The newest drivers worked for both 5970 and 7970.  The only issue that I have now is that the 7970 when running with the 5970s runs at a hash of 529KH/s, while running the 7970 by itself runs at 720KH/s.  I should mention that the setting are the same for the 7970 running with or without the 5970s.

I did have some trouble with cgminer not responding, so I downloaded Scrypt GUIMiner from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150331.0 which runs them all just fine as long as I don't switch pools (my machine requires a restart for switching pools for some reason now).

Overall, not a great experience running them all on the same machine, but finally have them all working.  The 5970s are putting out at least 740KH/s each!
34  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: KnCMiner Jupiter 1-500 (Two Pre-Orders) on: June 04, 2013, 05:46:03 PM
Sam at KnCMiner contacted me today.  Looks like the pre-orders CAN be split up.  When I made the orders, I did them separately which is why this is possible.  One of the buyers that I had lined up backed out so both pre-orders are still available for anyone that wants one or both.


The current price is set at 3BTC for just one or 5BTC for both.
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GUIMiner-scrypt: A GUIMiner fork for mining scrypt chains on: June 04, 2013, 05:37:48 PM
This thing works great!  Love it!

Has anyone noticed that running cards from two different series, i.e. 5970 with a 7970, causes one of the cards to hash at a lower rate?  My set-up includes two HD5970s and one HD7970.  When the HD7970 is run by itself it produces around 710KH/s, but when the two HD5970s are started the 7970's hash rate drops to around 530KH/s.  The hash-rates on the HD5970s are each consistently around 740KH/s running with or without the 7970.
36  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: KnCMiner Jupiter 1-500 (Two Pre-Orders) on: June 04, 2013, 05:13:31 PM
Bumping this post because I want whoever buys these from me to be eligible for the drawing.
37  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: KnCMiner Jupiter 1-500 (Two Pre-Orders) on: June 03, 2013, 09:04:41 PM
Already had a couple offers.  I will be making a decision within 24 hours of this posting so that whoever gets the pre-orders from me will have enough time to pay for the items and be entered in the 48 hour drawing for a free Jupiter and Saturn.  Here is the details from the email KnCMiner sent out:

"Our little lottery giveaway


for those of you who are able to pay in the first 48 hours starting from now. we will enter your email address into a lottery. After 48 hours we will randomly select three queue numbers, the first name chosen will get a free Jupiter and Saturn, the second will get a free Jupiter and the third will get a free Saturn.
We will then contact you and ask if we can make your name and country/state public on our site. We will add the devices to your account and ship them free of charge to you along with your order."


I just sent KnCMiner another email asking about how they plan to ship out the units.  i.e. Will they ship the entire batch of 1-500 at one time or as they are made.  There was another thread that mentioned that it will not mater which order number you are as long as you are in the 1-500 batch because KnCMiner will ship all units after the last one is produced.  Can't seem to find that tread now. 

I'll post an update as soon as I hear back.
38  Economy / Computer hardware / KnCMiner Jupiter 1-500 (Two Pre-Orders) - pending sale on: June 03, 2013, 07:31:28 PM
I have two pre-orders for the KnCMiner Jupiter 1-500.  Each of these units will provide a minimum of 350 GH/s!  At today's difficulty that would mean a profit of $51414.81 per month.  KnCMiner says that these units (the 1-500 batch) will be shipping in September.  The order numbers are 401 and 382.  I am willing to sell one or both of them if anyone is interested.  The reason that I'm willing to sell is because I would rather sell now for a quick buck and reinvest elsewhere, plus my gf and I are getting ready for a big move and it would be nice to have some more money for that.

According to this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=221312.msg2359904#msg2359904, the pre-order can be transferred through KnCMiner.  

Having not done this myself, I cannot speak from experience Smiley.  

I am located in the U.S. and can provide skype, and a phone number if you would like to discuss the deal.

Please PM me your offers and weather you want just one or both pre-orders.
39  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTB] KNC Miner Pre-Order spots (must be below 500) on: June 03, 2013, 07:14:33 PM
pm sent
40  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTB] KNC Pre-Order Spots (5) on: June 03, 2013, 06:27:16 PM
PM sent
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