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281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] WCX – Low-Cost Crypto Exchange built by Apple & Wall St team on: September 08, 2017, 08:36:57 AM
I am participating is the beta testing, See many things that needs improvement, Still checking them out. Hope the will deliver, I will also try to bypass there system. But just to ask, will I be paid with WCX for my effort, because I have been on there beta platform for more than 6 hours testing. Whats there in return for me....

Lol, seriously? You want bounties because you got free beta access?

Of course, me too, do you expect anyone to beta test this exchange for free?

They promised to compensate beta testers.


They did? Can you link to said promise?
282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ANN: ELIXIR (ELIX) TME 2.0 on: September 08, 2017, 08:33:36 AM

Is there any confirmation that that site is legit? Going by the replies to that tweet, the only people making such confirmations seem to be owned by one person who hadn't posted in years.
283  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] WCX – Low-Cost Crypto Exchange built by Apple & Wall St team on: September 07, 2017, 07:46:00 PM
@Coiner Idont know what else to call this, I am complete neutral but also very rational person, so show me proof and with my eyes I will belive.

Then stop with the ad hominems.

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For now WCX has delivered on everything they said as well as making the exchange live

To an extent, yes. I first contacted Fran to confirm he was an escrow with the presupposition that he would immediately shoot down any association with them immediately. That failed. I applied for the beta with the presupposition that there was nothing to offer, that has clearly failed.

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and anyone saying "scam" either has agenda like promoting other ico or trying to just create FUD.

I will admit that this Byzantine person (who I'm assuming is the one that uploaded those images on twitter) seems to have a knack for taking things out of context. And yes, he is promoting another exchange which makes doing that very convenient.

That's the fourth one with a "competitor exchange" so far. It's as if this thread has become a hotspot for everyone with an "upcoming exchange".
284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] WCX – Low-Cost Crypto Exchange built by Apple & Wall St team on: September 07, 2017, 07:27:08 PM
Fran Strajnar on Twitter. It was falsely claimed he was managing escrow of pre-sale payments.

https://twitter.com/Techemist/status/905871452640919552

"I have removed my association and will not escrow this project."


Did you even bother reading the thread before uploading the image on Twitter?

@ByzantineGeneral is another FUDer in this thread. Look at his post history he is promoting another exchange: "Re: [ANN][STEX.Exchange]1-st Exchange 3.0 Aggregator to trade all coins in one place"
More useless air from JoshuaT. Just read your reply there is literally no substance except "Just read thre thread" man just stop the FUD. Ok if you have any sort of evidence for claims but your FUD is just BS

You realize calling everything FUD isn't helping your case, right? "FUD" is not an argument and is no more thought out than the "scam" claims on this thread.
285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Hello Everyone on: September 07, 2017, 11:28:46 AM
Would like to find out if this is still going on. It does seem alive but as with a lot of projects, you probably need to ensure you get some other channel other than bct. A permanent Telegram or Slack or even email newsletter is what keeps us all alive. Email is best since we can always receive updates down the months. Keep on chugging. Liteshares!

I don't think so. He has so far refused to respond to my PM I sent him days ago and has not posted any update (or post for that matter) despite coming online everyday. Perhaps he's still trying to get the other thread restored but no update for more than a week? Meh.
286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] WCX – Low-Cost Crypto Exchange built by Apple & Wall St team on: September 07, 2017, 11:21:06 AM
Fran (our former escrow) recently asked to obtain residence information of our directors who are private key holders, as well as KYC information for investors in our ICO and presales. This requirement was not in the contract we had signed with him and we were assured we would not need to provide such information to him. For that reason we were obliged to terminate the escrow arrangement.

Do you anything to back this up? Like a screenshot of your email/telegram/slack/discord/x convo where he says that exactly? You clearly didn't use Skype or any other video platform since you're still anonymous to even him so it has to be one of those and I doubt he was calling in to Hong Kong everytime he wanted to communicate with you guys.

I'm asking this since this side of your story has so far not been corroborated.

Obviously this scam is not doing too well, a lot of things going wrong even before the big ICO heist

Try harder

That's the same kind of blanket statements that was thrown around in the beginning of the ELIX/TME project thread you just posted on (with anonymous devs no less) so perhaps it is you who should try harder.

Mate, please come on, I don't see how this is related - at all. ELIX/TME project doesn't claim 'Apple & Wall St. Team' in the first place - it's just a little project that is not attracting any ICO money or investment money whatsoever.

Sure, they never claimed to be a team from every eye-catching establishment there is but they're anonymous nontheless and that is one issue a lot of people in here seem to find very hard to look past. And ELIX/TME did attract money in their brief ICO, however small.

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This thing here is a different ballgame that is trying to get people to invest their funds and I'm just expressing my honest opinion. Announcing an escrow - said escrow saying that WCX refuses to disclose who they are - and WCX in return announcing 'we're unhappy with Fran's behavior'. Welcome to the Kindergarden! This is not only a red flag but truly ridiculous. Sorry to say.

I do agree with this for the most part but your claim that they're a scam right now is just that, an opinion.
287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] WCX – Low-Cost Crypto Exchange built by Apple & Wall St team on: September 07, 2017, 09:13:05 AM
Obviously this scam is not doing too well, a lot of things going wrong even before the big ICO heist

Try harder

That's the same kind of blanket statements that was thrown around in the beginning of the ELIX/TME project thread you just posted on (with anonymous devs no less) so perhaps it is you who should try harder.
288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] WCX – Low-Cost Crypto Exchange built by Apple & Wall St team on: September 07, 2017, 08:45:05 AM
I contacted both. Seems like the escrow is butthurt, he breach the contract with WCX so WCX fired him, now he talking shit about them. He was set to make some millons from the ICO...

Evidence? Surely you realize I can't take your claims at face value.

Agree with Litex. The project has a working product which proves it's legitimate beyond doubt.

That's a non-sequitur.

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Also my 2 cents on Fran Strajnar: I've personally worked with him before and he's not necessarily the easiest person to work with. He's quite self-centered and inconsistent in his dealings so wasn't too glad when this project brought him as escrow. Hopefully they'll find someone better.

Fran Strajnar is literally the worst person in crypto. Virtually nobody wants to work with him. I don't know why WCEX chose him as escrow in the first place.

Both Newbie accounts with < 5 posts registered within hours of each other now saying much the same thing. Apart from the fact that you are most likely alts of the same person, there's no evidence for that claim.

289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] WCX – Low-Cost Crypto Exchange built by Apple & Wall St team on: September 07, 2017, 12:10:42 AM
Fran (our former escrow) recently asked to obtain residence information of our directors who are private key holders, as well as KYC information for investors in our ICO and presales. This requirement was not in the contract we had signed with him and we were assured we would not need to provide such information to him. For that reason we were obliged to terminate the escrow arrangement.

Is that so? I will of course be confirming this just to ensure it's accurate.
290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] WCX – Low-Cost Crypto Exchange built by Apple & Wall St team on: September 06, 2017, 11:20:40 PM

I think it's worth waiting for the official answer before making any conclusions.

I just added 'presumedly' while you were writing this.

I'm curious about official answers for:

1.  Why wouldn't wcex identify themselves to their escrow??

2. Was there an escrow established before the presale?  

3.  If so, who.

4.  Wcex stated that Fran Strajnar was/would be the escrow, went through pre-sale, never stated he wasn't/wouldn't be working with them.  What's up with that?


The email was sent some minutes prior to when I posted the screenshot here but I posted an earlier screenshot where he confirmed he was their lead escrow so yes, he was (past-tense) briefly working with them but as the screenshot above shows, isn't anymore (and would love it if he isn't associated with them henceforth).

I get wanting to be anonymous (certainly from a different perspective from WCX) which is why their anonymity was hardly ever an issue for me but this, this isn't right.
291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] WCX – Low-Cost Crypto Exchange built by Apple & Wall St team on: September 06, 2017, 09:56:38 PM
I just received this email from Fran Strajnar:



Take from it what you will. In case you think this is just FUD, feel free to contact him personally to confirm.
292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 06, 2017, 05:03:35 PM
These last minute rule changes are somewhat disturbing for building trust into this coin.
There are no "last minute" changes, changes are announced more than a whole full moon ahead.

I'll admit I haven't been following BB new as much as I was before the last airdrop but I'm certain I never saw any announcement "more than a whole full moon" ago about an intention to cancel the September airdrop here or on slack.



Two things that were different for this airdrop compared to the last 3 I witnessed:

- s1lverbox stopped posting his usual updates about BTC linked and the much helpful graphs. I'm not sure why.
- GB didn't rise by at least $200. In fact, it's been on a downtrend since the 1st of this month. I didn't expect that.
293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] WCX – Low-Cost Crypto Exchange built by Apple & Wall St team on: September 06, 2017, 03:16:29 PM


Oh I don't know, perhaps because virtually all your posts in the last month on this thread had a "more likely a scam than not" vibe to it yet you get invited and end up using said "most likely a scam" product while, AFAIK, polkacoin whose posts had a "this is definitely legit" vibe didn't.

Although the biggest irony would be mangaroooo who seems to call everything that doesn't fit him exactly a scam, getting invited to use it.

LOL.  I call bullshit on that.  Again.   For the hundredth time.  

Did you even read my post?


Yes I read your post.

Not quite.

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Thus I responded as I responded. I'm calling bullshit on you thinking all my posts the last month had a 'more like a scam than not" vibe.

You can but it doesn't change the fact it did.

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That is what you said, isn't it?

I said "more likely a scam than not".

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Did I miss something?  Please elaborate.


I elaborated well enough in the reply you quoted and you've clearly already started seeing it.



For the second time, did you even read my post?

My apologies, you never said whether you got in or not.

I take it back, it doesn't suck that you didn't get in, as either you did, or you deny that I think it sucks that you didn't get in.

My intentions for applying has already been met with your video so whether I got in or not has little to no effect.
294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] WCX – Low-Cost Crypto Exchange built by Apple & Wall St team on: September 06, 2017, 02:26:53 PM


Oh I don't know, perhaps because virtually all your posts in the last month on this thread had a "more likely a scam than not" vibe to it yet you get invited and end up using said "most likely a scam" product while, AFAIK, polkacoin whose posts had a "this is definitely legit" vibe didn't.

Although the biggest irony would be mangaroooo who seems to call everything that doesn't fit him exactly a scam, getting invited to use it.

LOL.  I call bullshit on that.  Again.   For the hundredth time.  

Did you even read my post?

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I ONLY ever asked questions that I want answers to before I'll happily invest.   And not having gotten anything close to those questions answered, ever, I certainly didn't invest $25k+ in the pre-sale.

This doesn't affect my post one bit and I really couldn't care less if you paid $25K.

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I can see how you would think Mangarooo getting in being ironic.

Based on this post, no, no you wouldn't.

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But then again, you don't need to get in to see it, do you, as you already trust and you believe and you don't need various important questions answered.

That explains why I got in contact with Fran Strajnar before anyone else in this forum.  Roll Eyes

Are you done with your exceedingly inane assumptions or should I expect more?

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Wcex doesn't need the believers in, it needs the non-believers and the questioners in to assess the platform with a critical eye.

It actually doesn't. It needs people who can look at things with a critical eye, whether they be believers or not. It's clear you fancy yourself a "non-believer with a critical eye" which would explain that flub.

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Having said all that, it sucks you didn't get in.  Everybody ideally should be able to see the product before the ICO happens.  For all the same reasons that the answers to my questions should have been made available.  So people can get the information they need to make informed choices.

For the second time, did you even read my post?
295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] WCX – Low-Cost Crypto Exchange built by Apple & Wall St team on: September 06, 2017, 12:36:06 PM


Kinda ironic huh?

Why would it be ironic?


Oh I don't know, perhaps because virtually all your posts in the last month on this thread had a "more likely a scam than not" vibe to it yet you get invited and end up using said "most likely a scam" product while, AFAIK, polkacoin whose posts had a "this is definitely legit" vibe didn't.

Although the biggest irony would be mangaroooo who seems to call everything that doesn't fit him exactly a scam, getting invited to use it.

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Really great but can you use a service that didn't have to show this:




Sorry, I didn't know that was a thing.  Having said that, doesn't everybody have flash? (obviousy everybody doesn't, never mind)

Shouldn't the question in the current year be "Who is still using flash?"? That aside, ask Google, specifically the Chrome team why they are dumping all that is flash.
296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] WCX – Low-Cost Crypto Exchange built by Apple & Wall St team on: September 06, 2017, 09:50:06 AM
@WCXofficial

With hardly anybody on the exchange, what is setting/controlling the prices?

Related question, because volume is so low can one big order come in to rocket the price up or down?

You get invited?

Yep.

Vid in next reply.

Kinda ironic huh?

Will anybody make a video with beta even for 1 minute? We will be gratefull!


I think this will stay up for at least two weeks.

https://www.screencast.com/t/6Nc3UVIL0YKs

Really great but can you use a service that didn't have to show this:



That aside, it was a nice "review". I appreciate the fact that you actually spoke, makes it more human than the previous one that was posted.
297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ANN: ELIXIR (ELIX) TME 2.0 on: September 05, 2017, 07:59:11 PM
I have some Exor on MEW. How to convert them if my ETH balance on MEW = 0 ?
Is this possible?

You can't carry out any transaction on the Eth network if you can't pay the gas fee, and you need Eth to do that. Apart from that, MEW has a, IIRC, 0.01 Eth minimum balance requirement for any transaction.
298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] WCX – Low-Cost Crypto Exchange built by Apple & Wall St team on: September 04, 2017, 09:01:03 PM
@Macht another old man on crack, sock puppet for competitor, has done nthing but negative on WCX since beginning.

[-- snip --]

Anyways, anybody reading this, WCEX announced they are having issues. From what I can tell, they completely shut down email servers, sign-ups, the demo and etc. Guess they didn't like me showing off their beta.... Am surprised how long it's taking them to fix this.

Of course you are.  Roll Eyes

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For coinr_ and hamncrap .

That's like the 10th time you're posting "coinr_". The first time I ignored it as a mistake but I'm starting to wonder if you ever bothered to check who you're responding to.

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No need to waste time rebutting. Just for you, I didn't put much negative information in this post that wasn't announced by WCEX.

If you make any further unsubstantiated claims you can be sure I'll be there to ask for evidence.

Took you a while to catch that.

You gotta stop with those inane assumptions, but, of course I'm assuming marketing isn't the first thing on your mind when you post in this thread.

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Was seeing if you're oblivious to all details, or just negative ones about WCEX. Fail, you didn't even point out the other username was wrong as well. "hamnchess". :-)


You must be daft if you think I was going to acknowledge that puerile insult.

Hello,
Would you please show us some pictures of the BETA program?
We do not have access codes so we can not view the beta.
Respect./

Pics and video of their demo is on page 80 and 81

http://img.pixady.com/2017/09/279505_wcexnoemails.png

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6xrionrweokbk6k/WCEX.webm?dl=0

I recognized the real-time engine in this video since it is also used on PreciousMetalSpotPrice.com which I use on a daily basis. The engine is provided by TradingView.com. If not, the display looks quite the same.

It does look a lot like Coinigy, which uses TV's engine.
299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] WCX – Low-Cost Crypto Exchange built by Apple & Wall St team on: September 04, 2017, 07:45:50 PM
@Macht another old man on crack, sock puppet for competitor, has done nthing but negative on WCX since beginning.

[-- snip --]

Anyways, anybody reading this, WCEX announced they are having issues. From what I can tell, they completely shut down email servers, sign-ups, the demo and etc. Guess they didn't like me showing off their beta.... Am surprised how long it's taking them to fix this.

Of course you are.  Roll Eyes

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For coinr_ and hamncrap .

That's like the 10th time you're posting "coinr_". The first time I ignored it as a mistake but I'm starting to wonder if you ever bothered to check who you're responding to.

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No need to waste time rebutting. Just for you, I didn't put much negative information in this post that wasn't announced by WCEX.

If you make any further unsubstantiated claims you can be sure I'll be there to ask for evidence.
300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ANN: ELIXIR (ELIX) TME 2.0 on: September 03, 2017, 02:10:47 AM
Made a batch and found my tokens in my child address.... I thought the batches would be in the parent addresses? ... I like this better but hope this helps someone else out

How many ELIX did you get for that batch?
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