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181  Economy / Speculation / Re: Historic BITCOIN crash on: February 06, 2018, 03:51:49 PM
let me remind you of this, that this is not the first time bitcoin has crashed very significantly and its not the worst of all crash. (correct me if i'm wrong) Based on bitcoin history, crashes occur on:

2011 jun- Nov: -97%---> From $ 32 to $ 2
2012 jan - Aug: -36%---> From from $ 7 to $ 4
2013 Mar 6 -11: -25%---> From $ 49 to $ 36
2013 Apr 10: -79%---> From $ 266 to $ 54
2014 Feb 24: -49%---> From $ 867 to $ 439
2017 jun 11-16: -36%---> From $ 3,000 to $ 1.869
2017 Sept 2-15: -40%---> From $ 5,000 to $ 2,972
2018 Jan 17: -48%---> From $ 19,783 to $ 9,496

If viewed from history, crashes often happen every year since 2011 and proved that this year is not the worst year of the year - the year before. What do you think, whether this crash will continue or not?

Crashes are going to be expected as long as cryptocurrencies exist. I think that there is no doubt about that. You simply cannot expect bitcoin to continue rising without any sort of crashes, that is just going to be 100% impossible.

This time, bitcoin definitely did not crash as much as 2013 or 2011.

In fact, it is around the same size as the crashes that we experienced last year.

I am still quite optimistic that the price will go up despite of this, and settle above $10k. Right now, an all time high will be quite hard to achieve but I think the major support level will be strengthened at $10k.

As compared to the past year, the price of bitcoin is still very high. People have overreacted to the price drop because they were overwhelmed by the near $20K marker last 2017. Especially for people who are just new in the cryptoworld and bitcoin scene, they are very much affected by this price drop having experienced the rapid price climb last December. By assessing the price chart, you can tell that the price is still in good shape despite that the trend for now is going down.
182  Economy / Economics / Re: Crisis is Coming on: February 06, 2018, 03:48:33 PM
Analyzing the crisis will be around the corner no matter in the country that you live. Economically the world is not perfectly well, of course the movement of cryptocurrencies was launched in order to balance this global crisis lived fiat coins. I do not think we can predict what the economic future will be like, but we can prevent it from touching us so directly if it is coalitioned at some point.

Perhaps the only thing we can do is prepare ourselves for impending crises. Even after years of numerous crises, man cannot still pinpoint the main cause of a crisis and we fail time and time again to avoid this. We are likely to encounter one anyway, so its best to be prepared and know what to do once a crisis will occur. History will just repeat itself and even with the experience that people have had, there is still no perfect economy existing.
183  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New ways to fight corruption on: February 06, 2018, 03:44:44 PM

Contact the businesses of the protesters and let them know about the upcoming long protests.
Offer a reasonable amount of money if they disagree to let their employees protest as long as needed.

Possibly offer money to the corrupt businesses that will try to help the corrupt government.

Possibly educate the police and offer them money not to participate in silencing the protests but to make sure there is no unnecessary violence on the streets.


Wouldn't this be a form of corruption as well? Giving out money isn't always the solution to a problem - especially to corruption. A country isn't corrupt just because it is poor. It all boils down to the system and the morals of a person. Even with all the riches in the world, a country still become corrupt. Offering money to the police so that they won't silence protests or make sure that there is no unnecessary violence in the streets won't guarantee good results; the police may just choose to pocket this money and a clear practice of most politicians.
184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Current crash and future of crypto on: February 06, 2018, 03:28:18 PM
Market fluctuation are always used by the whale investors. It's nothing more than their earning strategy. They buy quick making the market go up and sell quick to dump it to novice and small investors to let the market fall and again buy the coins for cheap. So, small investors should be aware of what is happening with their investment.
My tips at current time.
1. If you are in larger loss, hold, the coin would rise one day.
2. If you are in small loss or profit, hold or sell, wait the market to stabilize a bit and buy.
3. If you haven't invested yet, don't jump in now, let the market stabilize before buying.
I agreed holding would be the best choice for those who already got stucked with some of these altcoins and im sure if you did your own research before investing to these shitcoins you would not be worried because if you have solid coins,it will surely recover in no time.For those who are planning to invest in cryptocurency market you just need to wait for some breakouts,wait for the total marketcap to stabilize so it will be safe for you to jump in.Some of the people are surely taking the advantages of the cheap altcoins today,that might be a good idea because if the market recovered in just few weeks surely you are making a lot of money in that time.

Most traders have surely taken advantage of the red market that we are experiencing right now. Despite the market crashing and being unstable, it's a great time to start investing or buying in coins when the price is low as it is right now. Buying coins at a low price will give you huge profits once the coin's price will start to climb in the future.

Holding is definitely best for those whose investments are now down in the dumps, because what goes down will always go up and the market will always recover after some time.
185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why not play games online instead of gambling? on: February 06, 2018, 03:17:38 PM
Many people chose to play in a landbased casino rather than online games maybe because they want different sorroundings especially when they are seeking for fun or to be entertained. Casinos now a days offered lots of different means of entertainment not just gambling. Such such as a variety shows, concerts and so on. And interaction in person are far different from online interaction.

The actual experience of playing in an actual casino is different for others - in it's in the interactions they say. You get to mingle and play with other people and according to gamblers, this has made them want to play more. Interaction with other people plus getting to eat and drink at the same time along with entertainment which various casinos now offer. As compared to playing online in the comforts of your home, casinos offer a different feel for its players.
186  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price manipulation patterns on: February 06, 2018, 03:12:08 PM
the problems here is there are pump and dump groups and also other similar groups to take advantage to buy and sell bitcoin.when bitcoin was pump to 20K obviously this is act by some groups of peoples.maybe they give the target to dump at 20K and of course most of peoples with trading experiences know this is the time to sell their bitcoin.they sell and cash out the money.what they do next is to wait until bitcoin drop to lowest price so they can buy back.and FUD is also playing with BTC price.

I don't think that the 20K pump was made by the whales. They don't have that much power, however a price dip may be caused by them. The 20K pump was likely made by the sudden surge of buyers when bitcoin became mainstream all of a sudden. Now that most of those buyers are now exiting, the price is going down. Whales are really influential and powerful, yes, but there are still many external factors which affects the price greatly and this is not in the hands of others.
187  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: what is your trading strategy now?is holding the only thing we can do? on: February 06, 2018, 02:48:09 PM
Of course, holding is not the only thing we can do in trading, we should always consider the timing whenever it is more good to do trading or just hold within. Because in every trading, tbere are chances to win or lose but the more strategis way is up to ourselves thinking and knowledge we had.

There's always short trading. If you are knowledgeable enough and are able to buy coins at low prices and wait for the right time to sell. With this kind of market and volatility, one would be able to gain profits at a short period of time. Holding is just one of the many things that you can do with crypto, and if you feel like it's safer for you to hodl and wait, then there is no harm with that. Some people prefer to hold because you can lose your money in an instant in short trading.
188  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Message to all people who panic when crypto price goes down! on: February 06, 2018, 01:38:08 PM
A lot of people bought crypto without knowing exactly what it was. I convinced my brother to get Bitcoin. He did, but he has no idea what it is. I think a lot of people are doing just that. They've bought in without knowing what they are buying and now those same people are exiting. Honestly, it is pretty depressing. I'm still up from when I got in, but it just hurts really bad seeing all this money drop.

This is also the first time that Bitcoin has gone mainstream. This truly may be the beginning of the end for bitcoin and cryptocurrency as we know it. I'm hoping not though. I still have some more buy orders for lower with the money where I sold when Bitcoin was at 18k. I only sold 11% though. Every day feels like it is getting worse and worse.

I have a tab at the top of my computer right now. $5,930... $5,922... $5907... $5902... $5900... $5887... $5877.01 It just keeps dropping lower and lower.

The recent hype has already died down and those who bought bitcoin during the hype must have felt that they are losing their investments by looking at the price charts now. It's possible that this is the aftermath and process of the bubble going to pop - but it would depend if there would still be strong and resilient bitcoin supporters who will firmly hodl. For those who are seeing the price keep on dropping lower and lower, they must believe that the price will just continue to go lower and will just decide to sell in order to save their money.

To be fair, as compared to how the price was a year ago, the bitcoin price is still relatively high. In retrospect, this isn't the bottom yet.
189  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: China will block all sites related to cryptocurrency and ICO on: February 06, 2018, 01:21:29 PM
First Facebook, now China. This may be just another FUD in order to create some negativity for crypto or bitcoin. I don't think that this move would completely stamp out the domestic cryptocurrency market in China. There's still the presence of miners and crypto-users within the country will still continue to use crypto despite the numerous bans. It's fishy that news about bans have been sprouting about lately. It's likely that this has made the price of bitcoin to go down.
190  Economy / Speculation / Re: Fear not,bitcoin will rebounce on: February 05, 2018, 02:43:24 PM
Haha only idiots hold , smart people sell during peaks

you are only 50% correct, the second part is right.

holding something that you believe will appreciate over time (in long term) doesn't make you an idiot. and many are doing this because they do not trust exchanges to start trading bitcoin there and other means of selling are not good enough.
holding something that is useless and has an illusion instead of future (ie altcoins) makes you an idiot though.

I agree, first not all people who invest on bitcoins/market does not have time to check the prices or trade everyday. As an example warren buffet is holder he hold stocks for long term, he is just a billionaire do you think his strategy is stupid.
If you know that you bought has great potential price correction will not matter because in the long run their value will go up.

To be fair, the holders have already profited, especially for the early adopters, therefore they are not total idiots. In fact, they were geniuses to hold bitcoin because some of them may be already millionares today. We can’t say that does who will hold altcoins are idiots as well because there are those which have the potential to be of high vaue in the future. Not all holders are idiots, but not all holders may profit as well. I think panic sellers are the ones who should be called idiots, or perhaps a lighter term would be inexperienced beginners.
191  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-02-05] Bitcoin dips below $8,000. India is the latest buzzkill on: February 05, 2018, 01:15:07 PM
For some reason the general way of thinking here is that when Bitcoin is going down, it has to be because of governments cracking down on Bitcoin, but that's not the case. People need to accept the fact that we have gone up far beyond what was a justifiable price, and that without anything really ground breaking causing the market to increase. If you see how badly this entire ecosystem is struggling with the demand, it perfectly demonstrates that we shouldn't be anywhere near the previous all time high. Seriously, last year on this day were hovering over and under the $1000 level, where right now (even with how the market has gone down) we're 600-700% up from that point. In other words, we haven't lost anything.

I guess people have been too overwhelmed with the price bitcoin has almost hit last year, and sees the current price now as too low. The hype that bitcoin had the last few months had greatly contributed to the price increase and the demand for it was greater back then. With the number of buyers already dying down, the price has continued to decrease for quite some time already. We can still say that bitcoin's price is still high - as compared to before.
192  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What do you do during blood waves? on: February 05, 2018, 04:27:03 AM
In such moments I like to open cryptofeels.net and watch all that red (and few green) charts flying around with "after-death music" background, try it  Grin This one relax me somehow. And what do you do during dumps? Do you continue to trade or take pause?

I look for opportunities to buy during corrections or crashes. The trick is trying to find the bottom so you can get a good deal. I prefer not to sell in a crash unless I can predict the drop and sell early in the drop. Then you can either buy low to take profits or reposition yourself with more coins at a lower price. If you can’t time it correctly, then it’s best to just hold.

A great trader once told me that you should have extra money to buy coins whenever there is a correction or crash because it's a good time for you to buy. Living by the cardinal rule of buy low and sell high, when the market goes red, it's a good opportunity for traders to buy more coins. Unlike some, they make the mistake of selling once they see red in order to cut their losses, or buy when there is hype over a coin and it's price is rising.
193  Economy / Speculation / Re: WHAT IS CAUSING BITCOIN TO DROP?????????? on: February 05, 2018, 04:20:48 AM
The bitcoin price movement downwards is just testing the market's support level and I think it may have reached the bottom price already but it could also be the whales who keeps on manipulating the market, setting bull traps. The upcoming Chinese New Year could also be a factor wherein the Chinese People greatly affects the market volatility before Feb 16.

Hasn't the market support level been being tested for a long time already? And hasn't the Chinese New Year preppers been made weeks ago? I think it's been long enough already, and the price has been going down for different reasons. There are many factors which make the price drop. There still has numerous FUDs, and I think the recent bans have something to do with the price going down because Facebook has decided to ban crypto-related promotions.
194  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Should we pay taxes on Bitcoin? on: February 05, 2018, 02:23:38 AM
Actually it's shit to pay the tax for my salary to the government. They won't look into the people's problem.All the tax which I payed to the government is moves to the politicians hand by the name of corruption. Why should I have to pay him a double tax .I won't pay tax for my bitcoin. I had hard earned the bitcoin by signature campaign and trading. I don't want to pay tax for that.


I completely agree !! In fact, we pay hidden taxes regardless of our desire, in our country these are excise taxes on gasoline, value added tax and so on. The tax on the crypto currency is just another possibility to manage to run into someone else's pocket, I'm generally for the fact that it was possible everywhere to make the calculations directly for

Initially, taxes are imposed in order for the government to generate revenue and use this for the budget and fund government projects which would improve the nation and its community however it is sometimes abused by the gov't officials. Some taxes are even too abusive and anti-poor, which only hurts the citizens more than it should actually help them. If taxes were to be imposed for earning bitcoin, I think that it would be detrimental for the bitcoin user because it takes out a huge chunk of their income, which is unfair for one who has worked so hard for it.
195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do u follow what politicians say about cryptocurrency? on: February 05, 2018, 02:12:09 AM
Sure, I always try to keep up to date if they say anything important and if that may affect the coins in any way possible.

But other than that, it's always interesting to see what they think and if the public perception changes.

That's true. Sometimes when an influential politician comments about bitcoin or releases a public statement, it sometimes affect the price because there are many who believe and follow them. Unless that the certain politician is an expert in crypto, then I don't think that their opinion have any bearing. I'm pretty sure that more people from this forum have more knowledge about bitcoin or crypto than some politicians and that their statements are just made for publicity since they are well known public figures.
196  Economy / Economics / Re: when you sell out of panic, you are contributing to the dump! on: February 04, 2018, 02:30:54 PM
Most probably it could be the result, because it happens that sellers may compete in the market which one would be first to sold their tokens even in cheaper price than of the others. It seems to be in realization that it could only lead by dumping more price instead of weakening it up to grow.  It is sad that some members won't be able to think it for many times before doing such foolish things.

It’s a domino effect. Once investors or traders (most of the time those who are new) start to panic once they see the price go down and this would result to a dump. It’s hard for one to control their emotions especially when they’re not used to the frequent price fluctuations. Once other panic sellers follow suit, then the price will go down even more and more dumps will be made and the cycle just keeps on continuing.
197  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: expect price stability on: February 04, 2018, 02:23:16 PM
Liquidity is the nature of the cryptocurency. If the price  remain stable then the market is dead. So the fluctuation in price of the cryptocurency makes the market and profit for the   traders

I don’t think that the market would die once the price becomes stable however it is true that with this kind of market, traders will profit more with this volatility and traders would prefer this kind of market. As of now, it can be seen based on the trend that the price has been fluctuating frequently and therefore it won’t stable just yet. We are yet to expect more price dips or rises because it can be seen that when an event occurs, the price reacts very drastically. It can be said that it’s not yet stable.
198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Strategy to invest in crypto ? on: February 03, 2018, 03:53:18 PM
Most people do buy and hold which is great in most cases. Any day trade, swing trade strategy requires substantial amount of time in front of computer which does not work well for most people as they all have to go to work and can't watch the price most of the time.

I think that there is an auto-sell option in some exchanges so that when you want to sell your coins at a certain amount or fixed price, you wouldn't miss the chance once the price hits this amount and you are not in front of your computer at this time. There are also apps that allow you to conveniently check the price at almost an instant and through your phone, which gives ease to a day trader. Although compared to hodling or long term investment, day trading is definitely takes more time and effort, this allows you to gain profit more regularly.
199  Other / Off-topic / Re: Earning Strategy on: February 03, 2018, 03:32:08 PM
Nice of you to share your strategy. Personally, I have been doing the same although I have never tried investing in an ICO before. I also allocate my earnings and subdivide it into different percentages accordingly to savings and expenses. It's always good to have your own strategy which would suit your needs and capacity, so it should vary from each individual.


3. After earning enough invest to ICO's or to Trading but i didn't encourage you to do trading if you don't have enough knowledge and experience. So there's a lot of ICO's that's been around so if you want to spot a scam ICO's read thss thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2661881.msg29042231#msg29042231


It has been hard for others, including myself, to choose an ICO because there has been numerous scams in the past, and this has made others scared of investing in ICOs or skeptical of them. Perhaps the thread you have shared would help those who want to invest to avoid the ICOs that are scams.


What I'm saying here is that you can earn a lot without doing any fiat investments but the only thing is you need to wait and have patience.


That's true. Many others are discouraged from investing or getting involved in cryptos because they think that you would need to have an investment or large amount of money in order to earn, but in reality, there are many other ways available to earn in cryptocurrency world.
200  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do you play for fun using real money? on: January 30, 2018, 03:09:36 PM
I don't know man but for me money or any capital adds to the excitement in gambling.
Like spin the bottle, it won't be worth it to play, or fun if there is no consequences.
In gambling, you will be challenge to do good in playing because you would not want to lose something of your possession.
You don't want to lose but just win. Fun right ?
Those who gamble for money reason seems to be not having fun at all because they gamble the money they earned for their living.

Simply because if you are not using real money in gambling that cannot be called gambling anymore. Basically, when you gamble that needs an amount of money to start with. If you do without money it can only be called “playing”. But seriously, people use money in gambling to make the game more exciting. It adds energy and fun to the gamblers.

Also, the money acts as an 'incentive' and people feel rewarded whenever they win the game. Not only does it add to thrill and excitement, but this source of entertainment has made people felt that they are rewarded. This encourages to play even more because they want to gain - money has contributed to this. Where there's no pain, no gain so people still play even if there may be some consequences.
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