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1781  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do countries have laws against creating new currency ? on: March 27, 2018, 08:25:23 AM
No. You can create any number of currencies you want, on whatever material you want. It won't have value for anyone other than you, though, so it's pointless anyway. Cryptocurrencies follow the same rule; you're allowed to create as many as you want, but it's going to be troublesome making people believe it has value.

That being said, some countries only allow the use of their own official currencies on financial transactions, so while you may be free to create your own currency, the law will not recognize it as legal tender, and you may even be penalized for using it. This is why some countries allow you to own and trade Bitcoins, but ban its use in transactions.
1782  Other / Meta / Re: Promotional messages in PM on: March 27, 2018, 07:37:37 AM
How can we check if an account is banned or not. I checked the profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=990580 and there is no ban mentioned there. Is it visible to staff only ?

Yeah, they're not visible to regular users. You may check the modlog for bans, but it only covers recent ones as far as I know. I can't find the user you mentioned anymore, so they must have been banned a few weeks back.
1783  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can I accept bitcoins on my website? on: March 27, 2018, 05:50:20 AM
Agree, only this way you will be able to keep bitcoin.
Bitcoin payment processor like bitpay is converting bitcoin to $ or other currency and send it to you. So you just receive money from different channel, not bitcoins.

I don't know about other payment processors, but for Bitpay specifically, you can receive Bitcoin without converting it, or even receive a portion in a currency of your choosing while keeping the rest in Bitcoin. Source: https://bitpay.com/docs/settlement

It would be much better if you can forego a payment processor though, of course, unless you want Bitcoin converted automatically to fiat to eliminate volatility risks.
1784  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: can someone explain why so many ICO's are scams? on: March 27, 2018, 05:28:06 AM
Pretty much anyone can start ICOs, and with little consequence to boot, and therein lies the problem. It's an easily exploitable model, which would have otherwise been a legitimately fresh way to raise funds, except it has already been overrun with scammers. It doesn't help that it's done on a cryptocurrency platform, which happens to be the hottest new "investment" at the moment, which means it can also take advantage of people's FOMO, along with the ease of investing.

I honestly can't tell what percentage of them are legit, but I probably won't be too far off by saying around 1%.
1785  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Cambridge Analytica type tricks used to FUD crypto? on: March 27, 2018, 02:25:01 AM
I get what you're saying, you think a blanket attack on crypto is effective enough. In response I say, since they already spent that many resources setting up special task forces, crypto must be a bigger threat to them than we are led to believe. Microtargeting is not rocket science. Hiring a marketing psychologist and data analyst to tap into people's fears and coordinate their FUD strategy won't blow their budget.

And in response to that, I say, if crypto were large enough of a threat, why not just ban them? Some countries have already done it, and I would argue that it has been far more effective than any FUD attack they could launch. China has basically stopped just short of a complete ban and it completely crippled their trading volume, even proving to be effective enough to drive away traders to Hong Kong. I know they can afford it, but why spend millions when you can pass a bill and be done with it? In the end, even special task forces are a way to enforce rules; rules that they themselves have written and can easily rewrite.

As I have mentioned in my first post, I do believe it's within the realm of possibility, but I simply don't see a reason for them to jump through all these hoops.
1786  Economy / Economics / Re: Uncontrollable cash outflow with crypto. Does it really exist? on: March 27, 2018, 02:03:18 AM
I don't quite believe in this story. I agree that if we consider bitcoin as a form of capital, then it pretty much cuts it as a capital flight or outflow, but I don't see where money is involved in all this. Also, if someone mined a few bitcoins, paid for the electricity and whatnot, then sold his stash at a foreign exchange, what has changed for the domestic economy apart from some amount of electricity having been consumed, which seems to be a good thing anyway?

Mining isn't considered a factor in cash outflow as far as I know. That's why China is letting it be for now while clamping down on everything else. It brings money in, if anything.

Money is involved because you're giving fiat to foreign companies for crypto. One often cited factor for China's capital outflows is Chinese companies and households increasing their foreign currency deposits, which isn't a much different case from increasing Bitcoin stashes in this context. You're also not just exchanging your fiat for Bitcoin, you're also paying foreign companies fees, etc. and you're less likely to use it (like foreign currency which people usually just keep in reserve), so your local economy is a little worse off.

I'm using China as an example, by the way, because its fight against capital outflows is well documented and has encroached into Bitcoin and crypto territory.
1787  Economy / Economics / Re: Uncontrollable cash outflow with crypto. Does it really exist? on: March 26, 2018, 03:51:29 PM
Could you expand more on this? More specifically, why does the country which runs a trade deficit (which imports more than it exports) become increasingly impoverished? I don't get it. For example, the US seems to be importing by far more than it is exporting, covering the trade deficit with printed dollars. However, it is still considered one of the wealthiest countries in the world. Yes, I know that people are saying all the time that the dollar is about to kick the bucket in a short while. But they have been saying the same for nearly 20 years if not longer.

Not who you quoted, but this article offers a nifty explanation:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danikenson/2016/08/23/41-straight-years-of-trade-deficits-yet-america-still-stands-strong/

tldr; Trade deficits are bad, but there are other factors that must be taken into consideration, as evidenced by the United States' growth despite their trade deficits.


As for capital outflows I personally believe it has more to do with money laundering than anything; people are able to funnel their money out of the country freely with crypto after all. I haven't heard of a case involving this specifically, but China seems to believe it exists, as it's one of their primary concerns at the moment.

People purchasing crypto from foreign cryptocurrency exchanges using their fiat may also fall under this umbrella, as they're effectively giving away money that's part of their economy to people from other countries. I realize this case does somewhat look like a trade deficit though.
1788  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what will the value of bitcoin be if the circulating supply gets to Zero on: March 26, 2018, 03:20:56 PM
No one has really been able to precisely quantify the relationship between supply and demand (which is hard to quantify itself) in Bitcoin, so it would be impossible to estimate how much the price might be.

In terms of movement, if you think about it logically, the price would likely be stuck to how much the last purchase was for, assuming supply were at exactly zero. People can't enter a bidding war if they have nothing to bid on after all. I imagine the price would skyrocket should some enter the market suddenly though.

That being said, this scenario is probably close to impossible.
1789  Economy / Economics / Re: How does bitcoin become a currency? on: March 26, 2018, 08:11:04 AM
Were you asking a question or merely stating something as fact? I would argue that Bitcoin isn't too different from the past you have described. Satoshis still cost a fraction of a cent, so you could still use Bitcoin for reasonably small payments, especially right now that fees have basically bottomed out. It wasn't as ideal as it was then for micropayments, but is still quite viable. It's perfectly suitable for payments of every other amount too.

I agree that it has to be feasible for payments for it to have value, but some people would probably be content with it just being a store of value.
1790  Economy / Economics / Re: Forex is investment is a country on: March 26, 2018, 08:01:02 AM
Bitcoin $1 to $10,000 in 9 years, has all the signs of money from thin air. What kind of economics is that ??

Supply and demand??? Don't get me wrong, I think it's ridiculous too, but it is what it is. That doesn't take away from its utility, nor from its future potential. It's not taking on fiat either. If you read the white paper, it's not much more than a peer-to-peer electronic cash system that was built as an alternative so that people won't need to pay mediation fees for payment processors.

Americans are losing jobs to $8,000/month foreign workers (H1-B visas). Bitcoin at $100 looks OK.

What does this job stealing argument have to do with Bitcoin? You can't peg Bitcoin's value, a decentralized currency, to one number either, what kind of economics would that be?
1791  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Warning. Encrypt your wallets and store them offline on: March 26, 2018, 05:46:34 AM
Isn't that is threat to all of us or whoever is engaged in the crypto currencies as whole? The article clearly states that under the amendment of congress lead they can initiate legal enquiry on the foreign resident through the foreign government. But I have a massive confusion here, each country is having their own rules and regulation against the protection of the resident from external bodies and government has right to deny that one on purpose. Aren't those two rules will clash together and U.S. wont be able to fulfil this act at all?

Also, I am concerned about the crypto market now, as this could cause dramatic negativity amongst every single person in the crypto and might just put the market value in jeopardy. Any thoughts?

It's kind of a little overblown. Don't get me wrong, it's still concerning, but it doesn't mean the US government automatically has access to everything everywhere:

From: https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/03/23/apple-supported-cloud-act-passes-congress-will-change-how-governments-share-data

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The bill would give the executive branch, specifically the Department of Justice, new powers to enter into information-sharing agreements with foreign governments. As of now, if a foreign law enforcement entity wishes to obtain data from a U.S.-based tech company, that government must have a specific mutual legal assistance treaty (MLAT) with the U.S., the kind that must be ratified by Congress. The CLOUD Act removes that provision, while also no longer requiring the need for a judge to sign off on such requests. It would allow the DOJ to enter into such agreements without the approval of Congress or the courts.

There were no debates about it because it basically just cuts red tape. Authorities still won't have access to data they were denied access to, unless their request was denied specifically because of said red tape. I'll need to review it more thoroughly though, I guess.
1792  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should I sell house to buy bitcoin if it drops below $ 5000? on: March 26, 2018, 05:35:59 AM
I'm not betting against Bitcoin bouncing back if it does dip below $5000, but I wouldn't be so irresponsible as to risk my home either. If you're willing to lose everything for the prospect of doubling everything, then you're essentially gambling, and irresponsibly at that. Do you like gambling?

If you can afford to lose your house, you can do it, great profit comes after great risk; if you cannot afford to lose your house, don't, never invest more than what your are willing to lose.

He wouldn't be selling it for Bitcoin if he could afford to lose it lol.
1793  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-03-25] Malta Wants to Become The Blockchain Island With largest exchange on: March 26, 2018, 05:30:12 AM
Well that's one way to boost your economy. I know Malta isn't poor, but some poorer countries could follow their example. It's really awesome to see industries and jobs popping up because of Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general.
1794  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbies, don’t feel unwelcome. on: March 26, 2018, 03:04:57 AM
There's honestly no divide between new members and the older members. Newbies can contribute the same way after all, besides minor differences like signature limitations and some anti-spam filters. The perceived divide comes from some newbies acting like spammers and being somewhat toxic in general. People really don't discriminate otherwise.

If you're a newbie who doesn't ask questions that can be answered by the search bar, thinks about what they post, and follows the rules, there's no reason why people would be hostile towards you.
1795  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: stay away from pump n dump on: March 26, 2018, 02:44:10 AM
Someone here actually made a detailed write up with his experiences in such a group:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2876163

Spoiler alert to the surprise of no one: they're scams. Stay away.
1796  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Cambridge Analytica type tricks used to FUD crypto? on: March 26, 2018, 02:21:49 AM
-snip-

Yes, why bother indeed?

Why have there been a NSA program, a CFTC crypto committee, a SEC cyber task force, congressional hearings, CEOs of the biggest banks slamming crypto, G20 meetings focused on crypto, a EU roundtable, several presidencies of world superpowers banning cryptocurrencies...

There must be something about crypto for all of them to bother.

You seem to have taken my post out of context. I was questioning the rationale behind funding a massive manipulative conspiracy which is a completely roundabout way of doing things, considering the fact that they can pass laws and achieve the same, if not even greater effects. They obviously already do such a thing now, but the topic is about Cambridge Analytica type tricks used to FUD crypto, not crypto attacks in general. If you think such attacks are happening behind the scenes, well, let's just agree to disagree.
1797  Economy / Economics / Re: Is the US Dollar Too Volatile? on: March 25, 2018, 03:37:01 PM
Something being volatile basically means it's subject to wild, rapid changes. Inflation does play a part in changes in value, but its effect is more of a long term one so I don't think it qualifies as a factor to volatility.

What I can say for certain about the USD is that compared to Bitcoin, it's completely and absolutely stable. The chart says that USD value in 1910 was only about 20% off from 10 years prior, in a pretty steep drop by its own standards. Bitcoin, on the other hand, is more than 100,000% off from just around 8 years ago, and is more than 50% off from just four months ago. The USD does move quite a bit, but it's entirely incomparable with Bitcoin in this aspect.

That being said, inflation vs. deflation is an entirely different issue.
1798  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is the world economy is sliding down? And how bitcoin may help it? on: March 25, 2018, 03:02:59 PM
Bitcoin has been observed as helpful to the Japanese economy by giving more people more income, and in turn, spurring their spending. More spending typically helps the economy. If such a simple and direct concept has been proven to work on a national level, I don't see why it wouldn't work on a global one. Much more people getting richer would be necessary to create an observable effect though, of course.

I have to say that it shouldn't really be expected to be capable to help the economy though. Bitcoin is just another currency, like the USD, and the USD isn't being expected to stop economic slides. Bitcoin just happens to be capable of creating wealth.
1799  Economy / Economics / Re: Why a medieval peasant got more vacation time than you on: March 25, 2018, 02:50:29 PM
Wasn't there very few industries then? There was less demand for services and goods too, along with a smaller population, so it only follows that there's not much work to be done. Our world is increasingly becoming fast paced, so it's just another consequence.

I don't think fiat and its diminishing value plays a major part. There's an abundance of workers, so they all have to be competitive. That is, for the most part, how companies are able to make them work longer hours for less pay. Deflation would probably be a welcome source of income, but I doubt it's as black and white as that.

For god sake, this new wave of economists are trying to re-write history.

Lmao people are going to be miserable no matter how many off days they get anyway, medieval peasants being prime example. The problem with her write up is that she's equating downtime with happiness. Then again, if she says that medieval peasants got 150 off days and revolted anyway while saying we should get more off days again, it wouldn't be a very compelling read.
1800  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do we have fine grained energy use estimations of the legacy banking system ? on: March 25, 2018, 01:11:40 PM
Here's one (very) rough estimation that I know of:

https://hackernoon.com/the-bitcoin-vs-visa-electricity-consumption-fallacy-8cf194987a50

I don't think there are actual studies on the matter. Banking is considered a necessity after all, so it's not viewed under a microscope like Bitcoin is.
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