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481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread on: December 18, 2017, 12:02:21 PM
Please don't quote stuff like that as I have these posts on ignore, not constructive at all, just pure negativity. Cheers! Onwards and upwards Smiley

Negative, but agree - truth. Good critics is better then pink glasses and dead end...

When it is purely negative, then that person obviously does not believe in or want to be part of the project. I don't have blinkers on, I have my own list of negatives but I choose to focus on the positive aspects. If the negative overwhelmed the positive then I would not be here at all, nor would I be investing in Electroneum. If something is that bad...what is the point of getting involved? Plenty of projects you do believe in right?

It all makes sense when you view a persons post history or see Monero plastered all over someone's signature.

Critics are good, as they see pros and cons and usually criticise constructively, not just cons my friend. Just because I am focusing on what is good about Electroneum, does not mean I am wearing "pink glasses"

What dead end? It only just started, reserve that kind of judgement for later, once we can see where it all goes. I see partnerships and potential for big profit, that is not a dead end. Same was said about BTC and other now very profitable currencies like ETH, but look at how that turned out. Not a good idea to write something off unless it actually does turn out to be a failure.
482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread on: December 18, 2017, 11:41:46 AM
the electronium coin is very good, and the prospect power is really good, we hope that electronium will appear in the bitrex, polinex, and other markets
That for sure will give electroneum a 50% boost , or even more Cheesy
Well it's Monero fork, with no aditional improvements in blockchain, mobile wallet seems like HTML5 version of web wallet, lot of people report troubles with both. Mobile mining is still not working and I haven't even seen any roadmap... support is terrible and official pools haven't paid miners like a week and rob newbie miners with 4% fee... only very good thing on this coin is marketing.

Well, each sees what he wants to see. For me I only see a coin that has given me well over 8x returns already and is poised to give more in a short time.

Some people only see the negatives, they never claimed to be blockchain pioneers or experts. They have already done more than most other currencies by securing partnerships and actual future use cases for the coin. At the end of the day, it is supposed to be a money alternative, a currency to be used not just traded. The masses don't care about the blockchain or anything complicated like that. That is the main reason most currencies will never appeal to the average joe, they are not technology buffs and most crypto is hard to get into or even use.

Please don't quote stuff like that as I have these posts on ignore, not constructive at all, just pure negativity. Cheers! Onwards and upwards Smiley
483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread on: December 18, 2017, 11:25:00 AM
Very nice to wake up and see it over 500 sats. Maybe it finally took off, the sell orders have drastically dropped. That new post on FB does worry me a little, though. What's the conventional way to get listed on exchanges? They posted petitions to sign by us to get listed on Bithump and Coinbase. Is that the way to get listed?

I read getting listed on certain exchanges can cost anywhere from $25-100k, but shouldn't they have more than enough money to pay for that?

It was only concerning the 2 exchanges mentioned, they are both notoriously hard to get listed on. Most coins will never be listed on those exchanges. The usual exchanges like Binance, Bittrex etc will surely come in due course. I believe those petitions were started by some fans/investors and Electroneum were just bringing them to peoples attention. It can't hurt. Smiley

Bithumb is the largest exchange by volume, only lists about 12 coins I believe.
484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Bitcore- BTX - SEGWIT - lowest fee - hybrid fork 1:0.5 of Bitcoin on: December 18, 2017, 11:22:00 AM
Hi guys ! is airdrop delayed  ? or I just didn't get in to airdrop list for some reasons  ? Btw where can i check my status ?
do not worried at all ,airdrop will be late but never miss at once .every monday ,we will get our airdrop ,early or late ,be patience.

I thought as much, no rush. Happy to wait for the 4% bonus Smiley
485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: December 17, 2017, 08:32:18 PM
Just bought some more and Im gonna be a hodler on this one, its gonna go boom again they are preparing a big update Smiley

Thats what you are hoping for but the truth is the coin's price didnt move over 50 sats whenever they release something huge. The reason that the price went up crazilly was because of McAfee. If he didnt shill about this coin then people probably is not going to know that this exist. At this point it is going back to its original price soon

While you are right about Mcafee being the reason for the huge pump, you are wrong about it not going over 50 sats. It was between 100-200 for quite some time and the only reason it went that low (50 sats) is because of BTC. Almost all alts were affected. The china ban came first, then the forks, then the epic BTC bull run. It had that effect on the entire alt market. I think XVG value is between 100-200 naturally, with some room to grow.
486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread on: December 17, 2017, 08:04:09 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but the mobile miner was ready at original ico launch? So why has it been delayed to next year.

Have they been telling us porkies all along and its never been available?

Also, Cryptopia have a monopoly on this coin till next year, that was the deal for ETN to be listied with zero wait time. Cost of doing business.

They mentioned that, it is to appease the future partners they are planning to work with. So the mining element has been delayed. Here is what was said in the email-

We have just signed a agreement with an Airtime provider (mobile operator) with over 5m smartphones in the market and are in the final stages with a number of other operators. We will release full details of each of these deals in conjunction with the providers.

In line with the detailed data requirements of these partnerships we are releasing the mobile miner section of the app in the New Year as we need to ensure we carry out a staged rollout with commercial sized groups of beta testers. We will also have our iOS app into beta test in the New Year. This will not effect the wallet section of the app, which is fully functional.
487  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread on: December 17, 2017, 07:43:03 PM
ETN team also mentioned, that they would like to make mining possible on video game consoles.

Has anyone done that, what would the hash rate be?

Good question, not sure if it would be the real mining on the blockchain or simulated mining like the mobile app. Either would definitely be a big plus and help with the adoption of ETN. They are looking at a lot of different things apparently and I hope at least a few of these ideas are possible.
488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread on: December 17, 2017, 07:18:45 PM
I fear that people will start to lose interest in the coin soon from the reactions that I read. Most people don't understand why it's not available on other exchanges yet, and the team doesn't really talk about that either, explain that it takes some time to get on new exchanges and that it will happen. People have concerns why 4 days after the re-launch things still aren't working better, or at least give some more frequent updates as to what's going on and when it's expected to be fixed which leads people to believe they just weren't ready again, but pushed out the launch because they promised it mid-december (which they obviously couldn't push back again) Obviously the problems are at the end of AWS, but I notice that people aren't just accepting that as an excuse anymore since they already did that with HackerOne.

These are all normal problems, but since it's a crypto for newbies, they need to explain things more thorough or they will not understand.

 And with so many altcoins available people are easy to switch to the next best thing out there if there isn't any better communication. I'm still holding, though.

This is Bitcointalk....go and find the thread for any large/popular project (even BTC gets insane FUD, papers and all) and see what you find. It is always the same scenario. People will always find something wrong, there will always be impatient folk,  you will always get scam accusations and there will always be those that have links to a different project and wish to see their rival fail. Sometimes they do it for personal gain, in an attempt to lower the value. It is all part of the crypto world. I would not pay too much attention to anything you read in here. Most of the time, the devs of projects never even check in on this forum, only a small number of potential investors even come here. I would not put too much stock in what random people have to say. It is always going to be a place of divided opinions and arguments, yes opinion...not always fact. Wink
You should understand we are talking about etn being listed on other exchanges not fuding or any other bullshit you are talking about.
The idea of electroneum was to be a crypto to the masses and viral growth and for that to happen the momentum was to be caught fast.
Getting quickly listed on other exchanges soon after relaunch was also something on etn team's agenda, since a poll conducted by etn team on Twitter, asking everyone which exchange they would prefer to seen etn next, this was when the Hackerone test were drawing to a close.They said that Exchanges would be confirmed soon after relaunch and it hasn't happened.

Hey, I understand that many people want to see ETN listed on bigger and better exchanges, of course I do. It is still very early though, only a matter of days after relaunch and most exchanges take quite a while to get listed on. Short term in crypto is weeks to months not days. Doing too much too soon is not always the better option either. I would prefer things to stabilise first and the exchanges to come with a short gap between. They said they would get it listed on other exchanges, and I don't doubt that they will. My answer you quoted was aimed at the people that are doing more harm than good, and making angry posts so early in the projects life. We should give them the time they need to do what they plan to do.

I think ETN team are doing the right thing and focusing on partnerships...which is far more important for longevity. Something that the majority of coins do not have. Most of the crypto on the market are just useless tokens...unless they can be used to purchase something or serve a purpose. There is already one exchange to buy ETN and of course the others will follow. We just have to be patient, the value right now is not so important...once things get moving we should see natural growth. That means profit to you and I.

Also, to be honest...exchanges are mostly for traders, not the masses. The idea of being able to earn coins using the app and the potential future use cases for gained coins is meant to appeal to the masses on top of making money. The potential for profit in FIAT should play second fiddle, at least for now. That will hopefully come naturally as ETN becomes a useful asset.

People are forgetting that Cryptocurrency is supposed to be the future of currency..as in an alternative to money. It was always meant to be used to purchase goods and services, but it is moving too far in the wrong direction. The fears of a bubble are mostly due to the fact that it is being treated as a commodity to buy and sell rather than something that actually serves a purpose. There is only so far that scenario will go without it bursting into flames.

Electroneum are looking at the gambling and gaming industry, alongside Mobile networks and whatever else they can get onboard and that would be something very special. Something that can actually be used will always be more valuable to the masses than something that can't. We all want some profit here I know, me too...but for the good of Crypto, there is more than just trading on exchanges that could appeal here.

Lets just see what happens in the coming months before raining down judgement.
489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: December 17, 2017, 03:36:28 PM
The price is falling rapidly

Yes, of course, it will, it was pumped up in just a couple of days. It will come back down even faster than it went up. XVG needs natural long-term growth. Hopefully, wraith will help with that. When you see a coin suddenly moon like that, it is almost certain that it will be a short pump. This time the cause was a tweet from someone well known. It is never a great idea to buy in during this time unless you are a day trader.

Not to say that the pump is over yet, could be more left in it.
490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 💲🚀[BOUNTY][ANN] GLOBCOIN - up to $810,000 BOUNTY GIVING AWAY🚀💲 on: December 17, 2017, 12:17:12 PM
Snapshot will be taken. Thanks everyone you still have another day to post your weekly report on twitter and facebook campaign. Thanks.

The signature campaign stake has been given out. Thanks to all signature campaign participants. I also have given pro-rata to those who only manage to post like 16-19 for the week, short of 4 or less. Hope that more people will come and support Globcoin. Cheers.

That is very nice of you! Thanks for the very efficient and always on time bounty management. It is much appreciated.
491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: December 17, 2017, 12:05:42 PM
Hеllо, i аm nеw in cryptоs аnd plаning tо invеst sоmе $ in vеrgе, but nоw i wоndеr if 100 pеоplе оwn 75% оf currеnt vеrgе аmоunt isn't thаt bаd? I mеаn i fееl likе if pricе jumps x2 thеsе whаlеs will just sеll thеir XVG аnd pricе drоps аgаin оr it wоn't hаppеn likе this? Just plеаsе sоmеоnе еxplаin mе аbоut this wеаlth distributiоn mаybе it's nоt еvеn bаd..?

Don't buy in now, it is at the top of a massive pump. You may make some money if you buy in a small dip and it continues rising....but if you intend to hold XVG long-term I would suggest you wait and there will be a correction, as this is not natural growth. Hold tight and you should be able to buy in at a much lower price.
492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread on: December 17, 2017, 11:59:50 AM
I fear that people will start to lose interest in the coin soon from the reactions that I read. Most people don't understand why it's not available on other exchanges yet, and the team doesn't really talk about that either, explain that it takes some time to get on new exchanges and that it will happen. People have concerns why 4 days after the re-launch things still aren't working better, or at least give some more frequent updates as to what's going on and when it's expected to be fixed which leads people to believe they just weren't ready again, but pushed out the launch because they promised it mid-december (which they obviously couldn't push back again) Obviously the problems are at the end of AWS, but I notice that people aren't just accepting that as an excuse anymore since they already did that with HackerOne.

These are all normal problems, but since it's a crypto for newbies, they need to explain things more thorough or they will not understand.

 And with so many altcoins available people are easy to switch to the next best thing out there if there isn't any better communication. I'm still holding, though.

This is Bitcointalk....go and find the thread for any large/popular project (even BTC gets insane FUD, papers and all) and see what you find. It is always the same scenario. People will always find something wrong, there will always be impatient folk,  you will always get scam accusations and there will always be those that have links to a different project and wish to see their rival fail. Sometimes they do it for personal gain, in an attempt to lower the value. It is all part of the crypto world. I would not pay too much attention to anything you read in here. Most of the time, the devs of projects never even check in on this forum, only a small number of potential investors even come here. I would not put too much stock in what random people have to say. It is always going to be a place of divided opinions and arguments, yes opinion...not always fact. Wink
493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread on: December 17, 2017, 11:46:22 AM
Why Electroneum still hasn't been listed on bittrex,binance or any other exchange etc is still beyond me..They had like 45 days to work this out while Hackerone were getting bugs fixed.
While all other huge supply trash coins like xvg and ada are booming, I guess it's great for all to see etn on just one exchange and assume that it's going down due to btc rally...Hurray

XVG has been knocking about since early 2016! Most coins are listed on a single exchange at the very beginning, it takes time to apply and be listed on the exchanges you mention. Electroneum is extremely young, at the very start and it would make sense to stagger the rollout of new features, news and exchange listings. It is not meant to be a get rich quick scheme or become a pump & dump coin like so many others. The other exchanges will follow, just a matter of time. Have a bit of patience and do not expect to get instant gains in Crypto, prepare to invest over a longer period. Too many newbies think that way, when they see BTC and a few others having insane rises over 2017....but in reality it took many years to get where it is now. It is rare to see something really take off in just a month or so. Usually, it gets worse before it gets better....
494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 💲🚀[BOUNTY][ANN] GLOBCOIN - up to $810,000 BOUNTY GIVING AWAY🚀💲 on: December 16, 2017, 10:38:47 PM
Tell me more about your team members?

I think it has enough info about the team here on their website-

https://globcoin.io/team.html

I personally believe in this project and what they are trying to accomplish. I would not be doing the bounty campaign if I did not, I just couldn't advertise something I have no belief in.

If you want to know more about the purpose of GLOBCOIN then this video makes for good viewing-

https://youtu.be/FHISw892wsA
495  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: December 16, 2017, 09:56:07 PM
Really nice to see XVG mooning, especially while BTC is rising. Most other alts are falling in BTC value. Really good stuff. This rise is long overdue, but was always going to happen eventually. 

Dont kid yourself, the only thing that made all these possible is mcafee shilling the coins in a soft way. It wont happen if it is not for him, thats the only reason why it happen and once it gets to a certain amount it will be back to square one as the other coin. The growth is not natural therefore it will be just back to square one soon

I know that of course, I did not think this would be the new long-term value lol. Just nice to see some action after being at around 50 sats for too long. I imagine wraith and other future news is what will help it retain a higher value. I am not holding XVG now, but will buy back in after the correction. Cheesy
496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: December 16, 2017, 09:50:46 PM
Really nice to see XVG mooning, especially while BTC is rising. Most other alts are falling in BTC value. Really good stuff. This rise is long overdue, but was always going to happen eventually. 
497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 💲🚀[BOUNTY][ANN] GLOBCOIN - up to $810,000 BOUNTY GIVING AWAY🚀💲 on: December 16, 2017, 09:15:36 PM
Do you want the bounty participants to submit their work links in this thread?

Yes, for the social media campaigns you are required to post the info here for the bounty manager to check and update the spreadsheet.
498  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread on: December 16, 2017, 06:14:57 PM
Very few people have gotten access to coins which is why it hasn't dumped hard.  Pre ICO people were buying at .003 so even  .01 is a 200% gain.  I will admit I pulled all mine out the first chance I got and sold 50% of them at .06.  Sold half of what was left a few hours later for .085.  I bought for .007 so its a huge return.  Knowing it will most likely drop down to .01 -.02 range in the next day or two.  If it doesn't well I'll ust have to live with only getting a 900% return on my investment  Tongue  Has nothing to do with loyalty it has to do with business.  We are all here to make money end of story.  The risk of making very little money is greater than the risk it might take off beyond current pricing.  I  am grateful half my coins got tied up for a couple more hours and price went back up considerably.  



People need to be more realistic.  Anyone in their right mind would dump if they could get an instant 4X let alone an 8X or higher ........  Bird in the hand is worth two in the bush as they say.  


Wow, I'm reading through this thread and I'm speachless. What I can see from almost every post is just greed and arrogance.

Just like this guy:

"Very few people have gotten access to coins which is why it hasn't dumped hard" - yeah, how many people did you talk to?
"Knowing it will most likely drop down to .01 -.02 range in the next day or two" - haha, no comment, you know shit.
"Has nothing to do with loyalty it has to do with business" - maybe for you, greed, greed, greed.
"We are all here to make money end of story" - speak for yourseld you greedy cunt, end of the story.

"People need to be more realistic" - this is actually the only correct statement you posted. Even though it was meant in a different context.

Get the fuck off dude. No one gives a shit what you do, do what you want. Go vomit your thoughts to your parents bedroom.

The idea of cryptocurrency is banking the unbanked people living in the countries with trillion dollar bank-notes, leave the system that is controled by governments and central banks. Doing things in cheaper and more efficient way.
This is a process that doesn't happen over night.

It seems to me that only very few people realize this.

When you've invested money into ETN or any other project, what did you expect? Moving tokens in the speed of light the same day when the app is released without any issues, making millions in two hours?

Have you ever try to start your own company? Nothing is working the way you wish right away even when you think you're 100% prepared.
Just give it a time and watch the progress and adoption, thinks will move the right direction.

By the way I did participate in the ETN ICO and I hold my ETN because I belive I can buy stuff with it in the near future. Not trade it for FIAT back and forward because that's not the point.

Fuck FIAT, fuck banks, fuck governemts and fuck all greedy people.

Peace

He isn't completely wrong. I made calculations yesterday, and it was about 8% (max) of ETN coins bought during the ICO, which were dumped. And when I saw the difficulty to get access to the wallet, I understood why. I think he is true when he says lot of people are here for profits, and there are already great profits to take on ETN.

But a large part of us thought that the release of investors coins will trigger a massive dump. Due to the inaccessibility of the Electroneum website, most of people were unable to dump their coins. And I think it's this which save ETN: no enough ETN to sell to break walls at a lower price.

Now, after seeing a good resistance of ETN against this massive amount of coins released, we can hope again his price will stay stable, and even go up. So I think people who wanted to dump their ETN but who weren't able to do it, just changed their mind to wait & see how price will react.

So I agree his 0.02$ prediction isn't true ^^

You never know.  Look at the amount of sell orders to the amount of buy orders on cryptopia. Currently the amount of sell orders are a little more now than they were 12 hours ago (90M). The buy order amount has dropped significantly compared to just 12 hours ago (320). The buy orders dropped from around 320 btc to around 270 btc but yet you still have the same amount of sell orders (90M).  So there are a lot more people selling now than buying. Simple math guys.

The total volume continues to drop as it should after all the hype.  I picked up a little more in this small dip.  So we are not out of the woods yet and the price can still drop. Also the slow increase in btc is helping the price. Look at CMC chart for etn in the last 24hrs and it's slowly decreasing. You can't argue that.

All of us who bought want etn to succeed but we can't ignore these details. I'm just buying more if it continues to drop and you should to.  Smiley

What did I say......You never know.  There are STILL about 85-90M etn sell orders and now the buying amount has dropped even lower to around 215 btc. The volume is 1/4 of what it was 2 days ago.

There are currently way more sellers then buyers so this value will continue to drop unless some amazing news comes out.  Those saying the dip was over were incorrect. The only reason the value isn't around .04-.05 cents is because btc continues to go up and is helping the price. Most of the transactions on craptopia are etn/btc.


The bounty payments were released today, hence the second wave of dumping. I now have my bounty, but no chance I will be selling at the current price. Happy to hold ready for 2018.

You are not factoring in that not everyone sets a buy order though, many just match the going rate.  The dip after launch is a natural process, as the people looking for smaller short-term gains and the bounty hunters dump all they have. Then the accumulation period begins. ETN will have mountains of news in the near future (judging by how quick they dropped the first news), along with new exchanges etc. Only a matter of time before the recovery.

And you are not factoring that not everyone sets a sell order as well. Yes only a matter of time before the recovery but until then this can still drop significantly before it goes back up. I believe we are both looking at this long term as a success but they have to stop the bleeding before the recovery kicks in.

I did factor it in, just mentioning it as I did not see you mention it. Cheesy Yeah it is a big success, extremely rare to see an ICO project do so well on the exchange and have so much early volume. Especially considering it is only listed on Cryptopia right now. Usually, the value of ICO coins falls well below ICO price immediately after hitting the exchange. I am very impressed. I think we all knew the dips would come, especially with the bounty hunters today on top of all the ICO investors looking for a fast buck. It will all settle down a bit soon. Looking towards 2018, what happens right now is not all that important. Although I would love to take some more cheap coins from the dumpers...I am ready and waiting. Smiley
499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread on: December 16, 2017, 06:06:58 PM
Actually, ETN  just dipped to 315 where I picked up a truckload of coins and it's climbing back up now at 354 now.

Haha, me too....I knew it was coming. Nice one.  The bounty threads are always frustrating as you always know what is coming once they all get their coins. Most of them know nothing about the project, don't check in here or on official news sources. They just join every bounty campaign they can find to dump for an instant profit. I knew there would be a big dip and a recovery after. I do think it will dip again though, before the longer more natural recovery. We will probably have to wait for further exchanges and some good news. Fixing the Amazon server issues should be a top priority.
500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread on: December 16, 2017, 05:53:06 PM
Very few people have gotten access to coins which is why it hasn't dumped hard.  Pre ICO people were buying at .003 so even  .01 is a 200% gain.  I will admit I pulled all mine out the first chance I got and sold 50% of them at .06.  Sold half of what was left a few hours later for .085.  I bought for .007 so its a huge return.  Knowing it will most likely drop down to .01 -.02 range in the next day or two.  If it doesn't well I'll ust have to live with only getting a 900% return on my investment  Tongue  Has nothing to do with loyalty it has to do with business.  We are all here to make money end of story.  The risk of making very little money is greater than the risk it might take off beyond current pricing.  I  am grateful half my coins got tied up for a couple more hours and price went back up considerably.  



People need to be more realistic.  Anyone in their right mind would dump if they could get an instant 4X let alone an 8X or higher ........  Bird in the hand is worth two in the bush as they say.  


Wow, I'm reading through this thread and I'm speachless. What I can see from almost every post is just greed and arrogance.

Just like this guy:

"Very few people have gotten access to coins which is why it hasn't dumped hard" - yeah, how many people did you talk to?
"Knowing it will most likely drop down to .01 -.02 range in the next day or two" - haha, no comment, you know shit.
"Has nothing to do with loyalty it has to do with business" - maybe for you, greed, greed, greed.
"We are all here to make money end of story" - speak for yourseld you greedy cunt, end of the story.

"People need to be more realistic" - this is actually the only correct statement you posted. Even though it was meant in a different context.

Get the fuck off dude. No one gives a shit what you do, do what you want. Go vomit your thoughts to your parents bedroom.

The idea of cryptocurrency is banking the unbanked people living in the countries with trillion dollar bank-notes, leave the system that is controled by governments and central banks. Doing things in cheaper and more efficient way.
This is a process that doesn't happen over night.

It seems to me that only very few people realize this.

When you've invested money into ETN or any other project, what did you expect? Moving tokens in the speed of light the same day when the app is released without any issues, making millions in two hours?

Have you ever try to start your own company? Nothing is working the way you wish right away even when you think you're 100% prepared.
Just give it a time and watch the progress and adoption, thinks will move the right direction.

By the way I did participate in the ETN ICO and I hold my ETN because I belive I can buy stuff with it in the near future. Not trade it for FIAT back and forward because that's not the point.

Fuck FIAT, fuck banks, fuck governemts and fuck all greedy people.

Peace

He isn't completely wrong. I made calculations yesterday, and it was about 8% (max) of ETN coins bought during the ICO, which were dumped. And when I saw the difficulty to get access to the wallet, I understood why. I think he is true when he says lot of people are here for profits, and there are already great profits to take on ETN.

But a large part of us thought that the release of investors coins will trigger a massive dump. Due to the inaccessibility of the Electroneum website, most of people were unable to dump their coins. And I think it's this which save ETN: no enough ETN to sell to break walls at a lower price.

Now, after seeing a good resistance of ETN against this massive amount of coins released, we can hope again his price will stay stable, and even go up. So I think people who wanted to dump their ETN but who weren't able to do it, just changed their mind to wait & see how price will react.

So I agree his 0.02$ prediction isn't true ^^

You never know.  Look at the amount of sell orders to the amount of buy orders on cryptopia. Currently the amount of sell orders are a little more now than they were 12 hours ago (90M). The buy order amount has dropped significantly compared to just 12 hours ago (320). The buy orders dropped from around 320 btc to around 270 btc but yet you still have the same amount of sell orders (90M).  So there are a lot more people selling now than buying. Simple math guys.

The total volume continues to drop as it should after all the hype.  I picked up a little more in this small dip.  So we are not out of the woods yet and the price can still drop. Also the slow increase in btc is helping the price. Look at CMC chart for etn in the last 24hrs and it's slowly decreasing. You can't argue that.

All of us who bought want etn to succeed but we can't ignore these details. I'm just buying more if it continues to drop and you should to.  Smiley

What did I say......You never know.  There are STILL about 85-90M etn sell orders and now the buying amount has dropped even lower to around 215 btc. The volume is 1/4 of what it was 2 days ago.

There are currently way more sellers then buyers so this value will continue to drop unless some amazing news comes out.  Those saying the dip was over were incorrect. The only reason the value isn't around .04-.05 cents is because btc continues to go up and is helping the price. Most of the transactions on craptopia are etn/btc.


The bounty payments were released today, hence the second wave of dumping. I now have my bounty, but no chance I will be selling at the current price. Happy to hold ready for 2018.

You are not factoring in that not everyone sets a buy order though, many just match the going rate.  The dip after launch is a natural process, as the people looking for smaller short-term gains and the bounty hunters dump all they have. Then the accumulation period begins. ETN will have mountains of news in the near future (judging by how quick they dropped the first news), along with new exchanges etc. Only a matter of time before the recovery.
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