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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: February 18, 2018, 10:48:54 AM
Anyone has received fund from claim? i did a claim in the deadline but i never received any notification...

My was in spam folder of google mail. So it may be deleted already if you did not check that folder in your mail account...
Anyway, for 1 btc value estimate you will get about 120$.
2  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Update6! 14.08.2017 on: August 21, 2017, 10:16:02 AM
Как только начинается массовая паника, то сразу выходит либо update, либо btc-e юзер с ответами на вопросы.

какая паника? и как устроить эту панику? проста update выходит 1 раз в неделю +- пару дней как то так...
Как сейчас начнут лететь одни недовольные посты, так и update подоспеет. С момента последнего update прошла ровно неделя. Уже и писать то нечего, только старт и выполнение обещаний

недовольные посты? ты что не видишь их на каждой странице? Тут все недовольные. То что админ делает, это не правильно. В любом случае никаких возвратов мы не получили, только обещания. Пока что они воры и их ФБР накажет, не сейчас так через пару лет  Angry

ФБР приди НОКОЖИ ахахах

чёт владельца криптси всё наказывает ФБР и наказывает, что даже найти не могут.
3  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Update5! Важное! 09.08.2017 on: August 10, 2017, 02:45:09 PM
А что им будет? Вы им выговор на форуме объявите? Или по попе нашлепаете ремнем?
Суд их накажет, как Cryptsy заставили выплатить весь долг.
UPD: Надо будет, и ремнем по попе нашлепаю.  Grin Только не один, а нас тут тысячи)

Ты вообще не в теме и нагло врёшь. Криптси ещё никому ничего не выплатили и не выплатят. По суду вернут копейки только американцам(максимум 5-10%). Мою анкету/запрос они проигнорировали.
Пол Вернон по-прежнему скрывается со всем баблом в Китае.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] -NEW BURST OP- MINE ANY FREE SPACE-(HDD MINING)- ATs, AE, P2P MARKET+MORE! on: March 28, 2017, 03:56:20 PM

So as i was predicted, your return in burst has dropped. And i think ccminer was overpaying at first time, so people will see this asset as profitable thing. After 4 months you received total only 690'000 of 6'000'000 Bursts, which is fully сorresponds to my previous calculations(even less).
Such unprofitable move.


You need to factor this from the ccminer_100TB OP into your calculation.

In case the minig will get unprofitable and I'll be force to close the asset!

I'll sell all the HD I purchased with the asset money minus a fee for me
All the money I'll get from selling the HD will be convertend into burst and I'll start to buy back the asset quantity sold, to liquidate the asset.



Rich

So hdd's been used for 4 months... He will sell them now (for example) at max 75% of price. You retrieved 11,5% of invested BURST.
100-(75+11,5) = 13,5% LOSS already + How much fee he want to take?

And i did not add at calculations growing difficulty, which is now growth dramatically.

And WHAT IS : "Unprofitable mining"?. Do you know? Tell me. Maybe ccminer already told about it?

All the money I'll get from selling the HD will be convertend into burst and I'll start to buy back the asset quantity sold, to liquidate the asset.

AND he want to convert sold hdd's into BURST. BUT. Now price of BURST is two times higher so let's recalculate:
100-((75/2)+11,5) = 51% LOSS . What do you think now???
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] -NEW BURST OP- MINE ANY FREE SPACE-(HDD MINING)- ATs, AE, P2P MARKET+MORE! on: March 27, 2017, 12:50:56 PM
So, some people have bought so called "CCMINER_100TB Asset".
I'm gonna disappoint you, because you will never get your BURST back in full.
Below you can see simple excel calculations with block reward decreasing in 5% every month.
After 5 years you will get only 4 millions  of 6 millions BURST invested.
Writed this to prevent new users from buying his new asset on 1000TB.
I did not include block reward from fee, as i did not include growing difficulty either.
And he get about 1000$ profit from every 100TB asset sold. ( 6000000*0.0000007*900 = 3780. 8TB drive cost 210$ at high. 13*210=2730)

Code:
months monthly reward total investment returned of 6 000 000 BURST
1 209 600,00 209 600,00
2 199 120,00 408 720,00
3 189 164,00 597 884,00
4 179 705,80 777 589,80
5 170 720,51 948 310,31
6 162 184,48 1 110 494,79
7 154 075,26 1 264 570,05
8 146 371,50 1 410 941,55
9 139 052,92 1 549 994,47
10 132 100,28 1 682 094,75
11 125 495,26 1 807 590,01
12 119 220,50 1 926 810,51
13 113 259,47 2 040 069,99
14 107 596,50 2 147 666,49
15 102 216,68 2 249 883,16
16 97 105,84 2 346 989,01
17 92 250,55 2 439 239,55
18 87 638,02 2 526 877,58
19 83 256,12 2 610 133,70
20 79 093,32 2 689 227,01
21 75 138,65 2 764 365,66
22 71 381,72 2 835 747,38
23 67 812,63 2 903 560,01
24 64 422,00 2 967 982,01
25 61 200,90 3 029 182,91
26 58 140,85 3 087 323,76
27 55 233,81 3 142 557,58
28 52 472,12 3 195 029,70
29 49 848,52 3 244 878,21
30 47 356,09 3 292 234,30
31 44 988,28 3 337 222,59
32 42 738,87 3 379 961,46
33 40 601,93 3 420 563,38
34 38 571,83 3 459 135,22
35 36 643,24 3 495 778,45
36 34 811,08 3 530 589,53
37 33 070,52 3 563 660,06
38 31 417,00 3 595 077,05
39 29 846,15 3 624 923,20
40 28 353,84 3 653 277,04
41 26 936,15 3 680 213,19
42 25 589,34 3 705 802,53
43 24 309,87 3 730 112,40
44 23 094,38 3 753 206,78
45 21 939,66 3 775 146,44
46 20 842,68 3 795 989,12
47 19 800,54 3 815 789,66
48 18 810,52 3 834 600,18
49 17 869,99 3 852 470,17
50 16 976,49 3 869 446,66
51 16 127,67 3 885 574,33
52 15 321,28 3 900 895,61
53 14 555,22 3 915 450,83
54 13 827,46 3 929 278,29
55 13 136,09 3 942 414,38
56 12 479,28 3 954 893,66
57 11 855,32 3 966 748,98
58 11 262,55 3 978 011,53
59 10 699,42 3 988 710,95
60 10 164,45 3 998 875,40
61 9 656,23 4 008 531,63
62 9 173,42 4 017 705,05
63 8 714,75 4 026 419,80
64 8 279,01 4 034 698,81
65 7 865,06 4 042 563,87
66 7 471,81 4 050 035,67
67 7 098,22 4 057 133,89
68 6 743,31 4 063 877,20
69 6 406,14 4 070 283,34
70 6 085,83 4 076 369,17
71 5 781,54 4 082 150,71
72 5 492,46 4 087 643,18
73 5 217,84 4 092 861,02
74 4 956,95 4 097 817,97
75 4 709,10 4 102 527,07
76 4 473,65 4 107 000,71
77 4 249,96 4 111 250,68
78 4 037,47 4 115 288,14
79 3 835,59 4 119 123,74
80 3 643,81 4 122 767,55
81 3 461,62 4 126 229,17
82 3 288,54 4 129 517,71
83 3 124,11 4 132 641,83
84 2 967,91 4 135 609,74




So as i was predicted, your return in burst has dropped. And i think ccminer was overpaying at first time, so people will see this asset as profitable thing. After 4 months you received total only 690'000 of 6'000'000 Bursts, which is fully сorresponds to my previous calculations(even less).
Such unprofitable move.

I am curious about the asset, what is the address that it used so I can look it up more quickly please.  was this a share of a total of 100 TB or what?  that is a pretty heathty set of plots even today if used well, but there are always two reasons why a person is selling something.   we considered renting out much smaller plots to help people get started, but also for a mild profit.  yet, if there is someone sitting on 100 TB of plots, why are they simply mining them?  there is always a reason why a revenue promised model is being sold or pieced out, usually the reason is that the revenue is not there in the first place to make it worthwhile and people paying is a higher revenue.  Or, giving the benefit of the doubt we could say that the asset has to intention of using those invested funds to build up to 100 TB and would just pay what they predicted that plot would produce out as dividends. 

Well he is really mining with some plots, but i think it's about 60TB (not 100TB). He provided adress at https://forums.burst-team.us/topic/2466/sold-out-ccminer_100tb-new-asset/ . But there is too much messages to find it now, you can still try.
As i stated before he make about 1000$ per 100TB of shares sold, so i think it's the point.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] -NEW BURST OP- MINE ANY FREE SPACE-(HDD MINING)- ATs, AE, P2P MARKET+MORE! on: March 27, 2017, 11:23:53 AM
So, some people have bought so called "CCMINER_100TB Asset".
I'm gonna disappoint you, because you will never get your BURST back in full.
Below you can see simple excel calculations with block reward decreasing in 5% every month.
After 5 years you will get only 4 millions  of 6 millions BURST invested.
Writed this to prevent new users from buying his new asset on 1000TB.
I did not include block reward from fee, as i did not include growing difficulty either.
And he get about 1000$ profit from every 100TB asset sold. ( 6000000*0.0000007*900 = 3780. 8TB drive cost 210$ at high. 13*210=2730)

Code:
months monthly reward total investment returned of 6 000 000 BURST
1 209 600,00 209 600,00
2 199 120,00 408 720,00
3 189 164,00 597 884,00
4 179 705,80 777 589,80
5 170 720,51 948 310,31
6 162 184,48 1 110 494,79
7 154 075,26 1 264 570,05
8 146 371,50 1 410 941,55
9 139 052,92 1 549 994,47
10 132 100,28 1 682 094,75
11 125 495,26 1 807 590,01
12 119 220,50 1 926 810,51
13 113 259,47 2 040 069,99
14 107 596,50 2 147 666,49
15 102 216,68 2 249 883,16
16 97 105,84 2 346 989,01
17 92 250,55 2 439 239,55
18 87 638,02 2 526 877,58
19 83 256,12 2 610 133,70
20 79 093,32 2 689 227,01
21 75 138,65 2 764 365,66
22 71 381,72 2 835 747,38
23 67 812,63 2 903 560,01
24 64 422,00 2 967 982,01
25 61 200,90 3 029 182,91
26 58 140,85 3 087 323,76
27 55 233,81 3 142 557,58
28 52 472,12 3 195 029,70
29 49 848,52 3 244 878,21
30 47 356,09 3 292 234,30
31 44 988,28 3 337 222,59
32 42 738,87 3 379 961,46
33 40 601,93 3 420 563,38
34 38 571,83 3 459 135,22
35 36 643,24 3 495 778,45
36 34 811,08 3 530 589,53
37 33 070,52 3 563 660,06
38 31 417,00 3 595 077,05
39 29 846,15 3 624 923,20
40 28 353,84 3 653 277,04
41 26 936,15 3 680 213,19
42 25 589,34 3 705 802,53
43 24 309,87 3 730 112,40
44 23 094,38 3 753 206,78
45 21 939,66 3 775 146,44
46 20 842,68 3 795 989,12
47 19 800,54 3 815 789,66
48 18 810,52 3 834 600,18
49 17 869,99 3 852 470,17
50 16 976,49 3 869 446,66
51 16 127,67 3 885 574,33
52 15 321,28 3 900 895,61
53 14 555,22 3 915 450,83
54 13 827,46 3 929 278,29
55 13 136,09 3 942 414,38
56 12 479,28 3 954 893,66
57 11 855,32 3 966 748,98
58 11 262,55 3 978 011,53
59 10 699,42 3 988 710,95
60 10 164,45 3 998 875,40
61 9 656,23 4 008 531,63
62 9 173,42 4 017 705,05
63 8 714,75 4 026 419,80
64 8 279,01 4 034 698,81
65 7 865,06 4 042 563,87
66 7 471,81 4 050 035,67
67 7 098,22 4 057 133,89
68 6 743,31 4 063 877,20
69 6 406,14 4 070 283,34
70 6 085,83 4 076 369,17
71 5 781,54 4 082 150,71
72 5 492,46 4 087 643,18
73 5 217,84 4 092 861,02
74 4 956,95 4 097 817,97
75 4 709,10 4 102 527,07
76 4 473,65 4 107 000,71
77 4 249,96 4 111 250,68
78 4 037,47 4 115 288,14
79 3 835,59 4 119 123,74
80 3 643,81 4 122 767,55
81 3 461,62 4 126 229,17
82 3 288,54 4 129 517,71
83 3 124,11 4 132 641,83
84 2 967,91 4 135 609,74




So as i was predicted, your return in burst has dropped. And i think ccminer was overpaying at first time, so people will see this asset as profitable thing. After 4 months you received total only 690'000 of 6'000'000 Bursts, which is fully сorresponds to my previous calculations(even less).
Such unprofitable move.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] -NEW BURST OP- MINE ANY FREE SPACE-(HDD MINING)- ATs, AE, P2P MARKET+MORE! on: December 27, 2016, 04:12:53 AM
So, some people have bought so called "CCMINER_100TB Asset".
I'm gonna disappoint you, because you will never get your BURST back in full.
Below you can see simple excel calculations with block reward decreasing in 5% every month.
After 5 years you will get only 4 millions  of 6 millions BURST invested.
Writed this to prevent new users from buying his new asset on 1000TB.
I did not include block reward from fee, as i did not include growing difficulty either.
And he get about 1000$ profit from every 100TB asset sold. ( 6000000*0.0000007*900 = 3780. 8TB drive cost 210$ at high. 13*210=2730)

Code:
months monthly reward total investment returned of 6 000 000 BURST
1 209 600,00 209 600,00
2 199 120,00 408 720,00
3 189 164,00 597 884,00
4 179 705,80 777 589,80
5 170 720,51 948 310,31
6 162 184,48 1 110 494,79
7 154 075,26 1 264 570,05
8 146 371,50 1 410 941,55
9 139 052,92 1 549 994,47
10 132 100,28 1 682 094,75
11 125 495,26 1 807 590,01
12 119 220,50 1 926 810,51
13 113 259,47 2 040 069,99
14 107 596,50 2 147 666,49
15 102 216,68 2 249 883,16
16 97 105,84 2 346 989,01
17 92 250,55 2 439 239,55
18 87 638,02 2 526 877,58
19 83 256,12 2 610 133,70
20 79 093,32 2 689 227,01
21 75 138,65 2 764 365,66
22 71 381,72 2 835 747,38
23 67 812,63 2 903 560,01
24 64 422,00 2 967 982,01
25 61 200,90 3 029 182,91
26 58 140,85 3 087 323,76
27 55 233,81 3 142 557,58
28 52 472,12 3 195 029,70
29 49 848,52 3 244 878,21
30 47 356,09 3 292 234,30
31 44 988,28 3 337 222,59
32 42 738,87 3 379 961,46
33 40 601,93 3 420 563,38
34 38 571,83 3 459 135,22
35 36 643,24 3 495 778,45
36 34 811,08 3 530 589,53
37 33 070,52 3 563 660,06
38 31 417,00 3 595 077,05
39 29 846,15 3 624 923,20
40 28 353,84 3 653 277,04
41 26 936,15 3 680 213,19
42 25 589,34 3 705 802,53
43 24 309,87 3 730 112,40
44 23 094,38 3 753 206,78
45 21 939,66 3 775 146,44
46 20 842,68 3 795 989,12
47 19 800,54 3 815 789,66
48 18 810,52 3 834 600,18
49 17 869,99 3 852 470,17
50 16 976,49 3 869 446,66
51 16 127,67 3 885 574,33
52 15 321,28 3 900 895,61
53 14 555,22 3 915 450,83
54 13 827,46 3 929 278,29
55 13 136,09 3 942 414,38
56 12 479,28 3 954 893,66
57 11 855,32 3 966 748,98
58 11 262,55 3 978 011,53
59 10 699,42 3 988 710,95
60 10 164,45 3 998 875,40
61 9 656,23 4 008 531,63
62 9 173,42 4 017 705,05
63 8 714,75 4 026 419,80
64 8 279,01 4 034 698,81
65 7 865,06 4 042 563,87
66 7 471,81 4 050 035,67
67 7 098,22 4 057 133,89
68 6 743,31 4 063 877,20
69 6 406,14 4 070 283,34
70 6 085,83 4 076 369,17
71 5 781,54 4 082 150,71
72 5 492,46 4 087 643,18
73 5 217,84 4 092 861,02
74 4 956,95 4 097 817,97
75 4 709,10 4 102 527,07
76 4 473,65 4 107 000,71
77 4 249,96 4 111 250,68
78 4 037,47 4 115 288,14
79 3 835,59 4 119 123,74
80 3 643,81 4 122 767,55
81 3 461,62 4 126 229,17
82 3 288,54 4 129 517,71
83 3 124,11 4 132 641,83
84 2 967,91 4 135 609,74


8  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BitcoinWisdom.com - Live Bitcoin/LiteCoin Charts on: March 14, 2016, 01:19:14 AM
Huobi BTC/CNY not working at all today
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [MΣC] Megacoin.co.nz - Forum, Github, Website Now in 18 Languages on: January 26, 2016, 08:07:31 PM
1. which wallet btc38 uses?
2. is there any nodes? (37.120.190.76 - not working)
10  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 16, 2016, 02:30:17 PM
Maybe it's crazy but this and other similar situations of coins being stolen demonstrates the benefit of having a way to reverse transactions.

Perhaps we should consider a mechanism to reverse a transaction through a vote or consensus. Haven't fully thought out how this could work but it is something to consider.

Something could be designed to allow miners to reverse a specific transaction (and all subequest tx's) through majority consensus in extreme situations such as this.

Mistakes and thefts happen. Fiat banks have the ability to correct mistakes and reverse transactions unless the funds are withdrawn for cash.

I dunno...just thinking out loud.


This is the Best i heard for that moment!  Shocked

This is completely contrary to the whole point of crypto.  Might as well also suggest a central authority to determine which transactions are legit and which ones need to be reversed.

so, as you say it is much better that Paul Vernon steal that BTC & LTC from users, instead of returning it back to those whom they belong?!
your words really "support" crypto community in eyes of other peoples who only "heard" about crypto!

crypto supports that opportunity, so why you prefer not using it?
and there is no "central authority", if majority of miners will support that move, so this will be... that's all.
11  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 16, 2016, 11:19:15 AM
Maybe it's crazy but this and other similar situations of coins being stolen demonstrates the benefit of having a way to reverse transactions.

Perhaps we should consider a mechanism to reverse a transaction through a vote or consensus. Haven't fully thought out how this could work but it is something to consider.

Something could be designed to allow miners to reverse a specific transaction (and all subequest tx's) through majority consensus in extreme situations such as this.

Mistakes and thefts happen. Fiat banks have the ability to correct mistakes and reverse transactions unless the funds are withdrawn for cash.

I dunno...just thinking out loud.


This is the Best i heard for that moment!  Shocked
12  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 16, 2016, 03:07:30 AM
I just filed a ticket for the hell of it.. lol HEY I cant trade, dep or withdraw..but my balance is off by 1/3 *gets popcorn* lol
i think their trade server is down, so balance on orders is unavailable at this moment
13  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 16, 2016, 02:17:00 AM
Can anybody confirm their Cryptsy BTC balance? I cannot at this present time, gives me a zero balance. :/

Hello?

Wake up buddy - it's gone.  Over.  Goodbye.



http://blog.cryptsy.com/

They have updated it, read!
14  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 15, 2016, 06:37:41 AM
Cryptsy should release a list of all wallet addresses and balances under their control. That way, we can assess the damage.

i'm agree with you. But how to send this message to cryptsy?

bigvern@cryptsy.com

support@cryptsy.com

Have a lawyer send a demand letter. Join the class action that Silver Law filed and I'm sure it will be part of what is collected during the discovery process.

I'm from Russia and not sure in which action i can participate? Will Silver Law take my case? (40btc stuck on cryptsy)
15  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 15, 2016, 06:20:12 AM
Cryptsy should release a list of all wallet addresses and balances under their control. That way, we can assess the damage.

i'm agree with you. But how to send this message to cryptsy?
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 on: May 07, 2015, 02:11:43 AM
If i buy some hdd now, my ROI may never happen
For example 3 x 4TB drives mining solo 24/7 FOR 60 MONTHs from now on (cost and electricity only for drives)

Calculated for Burst price = 0,00000105 and BTC = 230$

Code:
|Month|Block |Per Day|Per Month| $ Per|ROI for   |ROI with 0,6$ per month
|     |Reward|       |         | Month|11TB(450$)|HDD Electricity Only(12 watt)
1 6634 2073 63044 15,23 -434,77 -435,37
2 6318 1974 60042 14,50 -420,27 -421,47
3 6017 1880 57183 13,81 -406,47 -408,27
4 5731 1791 54460 13,15 -393,31 -395,71
5 5458 1706 51866 12,53 -380,79 -383,79
6 5198 1624 49396 11,93 -368,86 -372,46
7 4950 1547 47044 11,36 -357,50 -361,70
8 4715 1473 44804 10,82 -346,68 -351,48
9 4490 1403 42670 10,30 -336,37 -341,77
10 4276 1336 40639 9,81 -326,56 -332,56
11 4073 1273 38703 9,35 -317,21 -323,81
12 3879 1212 36860 8,90 -308,31 -315,51
13 3694 1154 35105 8,48 -299,83 -307,63
14 3518 1099 33433 8,07 -291,76 -300,16
15 3351 1047 31841 7,69 -284,07 -293,07
16 3191 997 30325 7,32 -276,74 -286,34
17 3039 950 28881 6,97 -269,77 -279,97
18 2894 904 27506 6,64 -263,13 -273,93
19 2757 861 26196 6,33 -256,80 -268,20
20 2625 820 24949 6,03 -250,78 -262,78
21 2500 781 23761 5,74 -245,04 -257,64
22 2381 744 22629 5,46 -239,57 -252,77
23 2268 709 21551 5,20 -234,37 -248,17
24 2160 675 20525 4,96 -229,41 -243,81
25 2057 643 19548 4,72 -224,69 -239,69
26 1959 612 18617 4,50 -220,19 -235,79
27 1866 583 17730 4,28 -215,91 -232,11
28 1777 555 16886 4,08 -211,83 -228,63
29 1692 529 16082 3,88 -207,95 -225,35
30 1612 504 15316 3,70 -204,25 -222,25
31 1535 480 14587 3,52 -200,73 -219,33
32 1462 457 13892 3,35 -197,37 -216,57
33 1392 435 13231 3,20 -194,18 -213,98
34 1326 414 12601 3,04 -191,14 -211,54
35 1263 395 12001 2,90 -188,24 -209,24
36 1203 376 11429 2,76 -185,48 -207,08
37 1145 358 10885 2,63 -182,85 -205,05
38 1091 341 10367 2,50 -180,34 -203,14
39 1039 325 9873 2,38 -177,96 -201,36
40 989 309 9403 2,27 -175,69 -199,69
41 942 294 8955 2,16 -173,53 -198,13
42 897 280 8529 2,06 -171,47 -196,67
43 855 267 8123 1,96 -169,51 -195,31
44 814 254 7736 1,87 -167,64 -194,04
45 775 242 7367 1,78 -165,86 -192,86
46 738 231 7017 1,69 -164,16 -191,76
47 703 220 6682 1,61 -162,55 -190,75
48 670 209 6364 1,54 -161,01 -189,81
49 638 199 6061 1,46 -159,55 -188,95
50 607 190 5773 1,39 -158,16 -188,16
51 579 181 5498 1,33 -156,83 -187,43
52 551 172 5236 1,26 -155,56 -186,76
53 525 164 4987 1,20 -154,36 -186,16
54 500 156 4749 1,15 -153,21 -185,61
55 476 149 4523 1,09 -152,12 -185,12
56 453 142 4308 1,04 -151,08 -184,68
57 432 135 4102 0,99 -150,09 -184,29
58 411 128 3907 0,94 -149,14 -183,94
59 392 122 3721 0,90 -148,25 -183,65
60 373 117 3544 0,86 -147,39 -183,39

You didn't take the resale value (which is even more significant if you buy the hard drives used) and the added value of using the hard drives for storage into account. I would think that most people who mine BURST are using spare hard drives that aren't being used for storage. At least, that's what I intend to do anyway.

For less than 10 drives too much time wasted for reading forum/plotting/replotting and installing windows 8(under win7 is total mess with memory). Anyway on working machine may be lags.

If you talking about > 50 HDDs, that would be another story.

And after 4 years these hdds will be obsolete.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 on: May 07, 2015, 01:31:06 AM
If i buy some hdd now, my ROI may never happen
For example 3 x 4TB drives mining solo 24/7 for 60 months from now on (cost and electricity only for drives)
Total BURST = 1253000

Calculated for Burst price = 0,00000105 and BTC = 230$

And for Burst price = 0,00000210

Code:
For Price = 0,00000105

|Month|Block |Per Day|Per Month| $ Per|ROI for   |ROI with 0,6$ per month
|     |Reward|       |         | Month|11TB(450$)|HDD Electricity Only(12 watts)
1 6634 2073 63044 15,23 -434,77 -435,37
2 6318 1974 60042 14,50 -420,27 -421,47
3 6017 1880 57183 13,81 -406,47 -408,27
4 5731 1791 54460 13,15 -393,31 -395,71
5 5458 1706 51866 12,53 -380,79 -383,79
6 5198 1624 49396 11,93 -368,86 -372,46
7 4950 1547 47044 11,36 -357,50 -361,70
8 4715 1473 44804 10,82 -346,68 -351,48
9 4490 1403 42670 10,30 -336,37 -341,77
10 4276 1336 40639 9,81 -326,56 -332,56
11 4073 1273 38703 9,35 -317,21 -323,81
12 3879 1212 36860 8,90 -308,31 -315,51
13 3694 1154 35105 8,48 -299,83 -307,63
14 3518 1099 33433 8,07 -291,76 -300,16
15 3351 1047 31841 7,69 -284,07 -293,07
16 3191 997 30325 7,32 -276,74 -286,34
17 3039 950 28881 6,97 -269,77 -279,97
18 2894 904 27506 6,64 -263,13 -273,93
19 2757 861 26196 6,33 -256,80 -268,20
20 2625 820 24949 6,03 -250,78 -262,78
21 2500 781 23761 5,74 -245,04 -257,64
22 2381 744 22629 5,46 -239,57 -252,77
23 2268 709 21551 5,20 -234,37 -248,17
24 2160 675 20525 4,96 -229,41 -243,81
25 2057 643 19548 4,72 -224,69 -239,69
26 1959 612 18617 4,50 -220,19 -235,79
27 1866 583 17730 4,28 -215,91 -232,11
28 1777 555 16886 4,08 -211,83 -228,63
29 1692 529 16082 3,88 -207,95 -225,35
30 1612 504 15316 3,70 -204,25 -222,25
31 1535 480 14587 3,52 -200,73 -219,33
32 1462 457 13892 3,35 -197,37 -216,57
33 1392 435 13231 3,20 -194,18 -213,98
34 1326 414 12601 3,04 -191,14 -211,54
35 1263 395 12001 2,90 -188,24 -209,24
36 1203 376 11429 2,76 -185,48 -207,08
37 1145 358 10885 2,63 -182,85 -205,05
38 1091 341 10367 2,50 -180,34 -203,14
39 1039 325 9873 2,38 -177,96 -201,36
40 989 309 9403 2,27 -175,69 -199,69
41 942 294 8955 2,16 -173,53 -198,13
42 897 280 8529 2,06 -171,47 -196,67
43 855 267 8123 1,96 -169,51 -195,31
44 814 254 7736 1,87 -167,64 -194,04
45 775 242 7367 1,78 -165,86 -192,86
46 738 231 7017 1,69 -164,16 -191,76
47 703 220 6682 1,61 -162,55 -190,75
48 670 209 6364 1,54 -161,01 -189,81
49 638 199 6061 1,46 -159,55 -188,95
50 607 190 5773 1,39 -158,16 -188,16
51 579 181 5498 1,33 -156,83 -187,43
52 551 172 5236 1,26 -155,56 -186,76
53 525 164 4987 1,20 -154,36 -186,16
54 500 156 4749 1,15 -153,21 -185,61
55 476 149 4523 1,09 -152,12 -185,12
56 453 142 4308 1,04 -151,08 -184,68
57 432 135 4102 0,99 -150,09 -184,29
58 411 128 3907 0,94 -149,14 -183,94
59 392 122 3721 0,90 -148,25 -183,65
60 373 117 3544 0,86 -147,39 -183,39

For Price = 0,00000210

|Month|Block |Per Day|Per Month| $ Per|ROI for   |ROI with 0,6$ per month
|     |Reward|       |         | Month|11TB(450$)|HDD Electricity Only(12 watts)
1 6634 2073 63044 30,45 -419,55 -420,15
2 6318 1974 60042 29,00 -390,55 -391,75
3 6017 1880 57183 27,62 -362,93 -364,73
4 5731 1791 54460 26,30 -336,63 -339,03
5 5458 1706 51866 25,05 -311,58 -314,58
6 5198 1624 49396 23,86 -287,72 -291,32
7 4950 1547 47044 22,72 -264,99 -269,19
8 4715 1473 44804 21,64 -243,35 -248,15
9 4490 1403 42670 20,61 -222,74 -228,14
10 4276 1336 40639 19,63 -203,12 -209,12
11 4073 1273 38703 18,69 -184,42 -191,02
12 3879 1212 36860 17,80 -166,62 -173,82
13 3694 1154 35105 16,96 -149,66 -157,46
14 3518 1099 33433 16,15 -133,51 -141,91
15 3351 1047 31841 15,38 -118,14 -127,14
16 3191 997 30325 14,65 -103,49 -113,09
17 3039 950 28881 13,95 -89,54 -99,74
18 2894 904 27506 13,29 -76,25 -87,05
19 2757 861 26196 12,65 -63,60 -75,00
20 2625 820 24949 12,05 -51,55 -63,55
21 2500 781 23761 11,48 -40,07 -52,67
22 2381 744 22629 10,93 -29,14 -42,34
23 2268 709 21551 10,41 -18,73 -32,53
24 2160 675 20525 9,91 -8,82 -23,22
25 2057 643 19548 9,44 0,62 -14,38
26 1959 612 18617 8,99 9,61 -5,99
27 1866 583 17730 8,56 18,18 1,98
28 1777 555 16886 8,16 26,33 9,53
29 1692 529 16082 7,77 34,10 16,70
30 1612 504 15316 7,40 41,50 23,50
31 1535 480 14587 7,05 48,54 29,94
32 1462 457 13892 6,71 55,25 36,05
33 1392 435 13231 6,39 61,64 41,84
34 1326 414 12601 6,09 67,73 47,33
35 1263 395 12001 5,80 73,53 52,53
36 1203 376 11429 5,52 79,05 57,45
37 1145 358 10885 5,26 84,30 62,10
38 1091 341 10367 5,01 89,31 66,51
39 1039 325 9873 4,77 94,08 70,68
40 989 309 9403 4,54 98,62 74,62
41 942 294 8955 4,33 102,95 78,35
42 897 280 8529 4,12 107,07 81,87
43 855 267 8123 3,92 110,99 85,19
44 814 254 7736 3,74 114,73 88,33
45 775 242 7367 3,56 118,28 91,28
46 738 231 7017 3,39 121,67 94,07
47 703 220 6682 3,23 124,90 96,70
48 670 209 6364 3,07 127,97 99,17
49 638 199 6061 2,93 130,90 101,50
50 607 190 5773 2,79 133,69 103,69
51 579 181 5498 2,66 136,35 105,75
52 551 172 5236 2,53 138,87 107,67
53 525 164 4987 2,41 141,28 109,48
54 500 156 4749 2,29 143,58 111,18
55 476 149 4523 2,18 145,76 112,76
56 453 142 4308 2,08 147,84 114,24
57 432 135 4102 1,98 149,82 115,62
58 411 128 3907 1,89 151,71 116,91
59 392 122 3721 1,80 153,51 118,11
60 373 117 3544 1,71 155,22 119,22
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 on: April 22, 2015, 02:26:01 AM
I have 17 TB in my miner right now; just moved various HDD's to one rig due to a different mining algo I'm using would freeze it up when mining in conjunction. With 17 TB (blago's miner), my 16 gb of ram is not enough to let the miner run smoothly while also allowing me to work on the computer unaffected.. My question is... Is there a preferred ratio of HDD space (in terabytes) to ram ratio I should be shooting for? I'm going to pick up some more ram tomorrow, and I wanna know how much I need to get.

you need windows 8 or windows 10 for normal RAM using, windows 7 have problems with caching big files.
8gb of RAM is ok for mining on Windows 8.

try to set IO Priority & Cache Priority of burst miner to "idle" (System tool "Process Hacker" can do that, but manually)

anyway, high IO Load(big queque) may cause some lags even with 1 HDD mining.
for comfortable using PC you will need optimized miner

Hey, so if I set the IO load to idle, then it would help? I'm trying it now. I'm confused by your wording which stated no go on Win7, but try this? Thanks

On Win7 you will always get lags, because on every read it try to cache the file, while caching (system IO always maxed) you will get lags. So first of all you need to change OS to Win8 or Win10.

Changing IO Priority On Win7 only help with system response by 20-50% depending on stagger/file size. Used or available amount of RAM anyway will not be affected.

Changing CPU(Process) Priority of Burst Miner never helped me, because problem was always with System process playing with Cache/RAM.
But disabling 1 core is a good idea.

Could you elaborate on this "cleanmem" setting, and if I read your post correctly, it is only helpful BEFORE and AFTER mining process and not DURING, so my only real correction is using a new Windows OS, or is there clearing of the ram during the mining process I can write in?

cleaning RAM will not help you much, every clean run(every 4 minutes) = lag.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 on: April 22, 2015, 01:03:05 AM
I have 17 TB in my miner right now; just moved various HDD's to one rig due to a different mining algo I'm using would freeze it up when mining in conjunction. With 17 TB (blago's miner), my 16 gb of ram is not enough to let the miner run smoothly while also allowing me to work on the computer unaffected.. My question is... Is there a preferred ratio of HDD space (in terabytes) to ram ratio I should be shooting for? I'm going to pick up some more ram tomorrow, and I wanna know how much I need to get.

you need windows 8 or windows 10 for normal RAM using, windows 7 has problems with caching big files.
8gb of RAM is ok for mining on Windows 8.

try to set IO Priority & Cache Priority of burst miner to "idle" (System tool "Process Hacker" can do that, but manually)

anyway, high IO Load(big queque) may cause some lags even with 1 HDD mining.
for comfortable using PC you will need optimized miner
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.2 Automated Transactions on: April 04, 2015, 08:09:34 PM
How much a Burst-rig?
You do not want competition?

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage/

67 TB = 31 BTC
0.53759940 BTC/Month BURST @157

Revenue in 57,5  months.

Good luck. Wink

You're assuming that burst stays at the same price.. I really think that once a few key projects are finished.. Burst > $0.01

At which point, granted there will be more miners but it'll quickly pay for itself.

Just throwing something out there that just now popped in my head...
Wouldnt it have been wiser to make the block target time greater than 4mins? This would allow for HDD's lasting longer and lower power consumption....
Not sure of the downfalls tho....

True.. though 4 minutes is already a pretty good trade off in that regard.  On the flip side, longer blocks mean more time to confirm transactions.. and arguably shorter blocks have increased security.   Personally I'd bump block times down to 30 seconds.

for 31btc it's better to buy BURST, because mining spend time and waste space.

+1 for decreasing block time to 20-60 sec, my 4tb take 12s to read, while processing block. I think network will be more secure, but it will increase cpu load and power consumption.
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