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1181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WaltonChain WTC on: September 04, 2017, 09:01:24 AM
This dropped to almost 80 cents I think before rising back up to 1.50~.
1182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: September 04, 2017, 08:59:07 AM
Back to where we were couple days ago. $8 incoming.
1183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: September 04, 2017, 08:37:23 AM
All r diving including BTC for unknown reason

Does it seem to you that market is being manipulated again-going up and down in such a extremely short period in order to make people sell at low prices?

Don't use stop loss. Make trades that you personally think are beneficial for you.

All r diving including BTC for unknown reason

Does it seem to you that market is being manipulated again-going up and down in such a extremely short period in order to make people sell at low prices?

The market is rising artificially. The market is falling really. The price of the token is inflated only because of rumors of a Visa.


Turn off the computer. Step back. Come back in a week. See where the market is at.

Just give us MasterCard and Visa Agrement today Smiley

Haha, I doubt MasterCard is interested in this line of work. Visa is in Mountain View... MasterCard is else where. Visa has experience in Crypto market, MasterCard does not. Corporations like that do not jump into business. They will wait and see how Visa does it for few years before jumping on something newer.

Almost all coins were having this issue.
So, no comments on whales' activities on just MCO.
Or perhaps they are trying to activate auto stop loss .

It seems this is the reason why the whole coin market is down:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-04/china-central-bank-says-initial-coin-offerings-are-illegal

I filled up some while it is dipping.

Think of ICO as Penny Stocks. Not Illegal, but there is risk. Anyone can call anything illegal. People came up with idea, organized it, put the team together, that's all it takes to make it legal.





Everyone has twitchy fingers today because of the news. Binance is especially bloody tonight.
1184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: September 04, 2017, 01:09:45 AM
VISA ann coming soon , the number of cards' order increasing frm day to day
Expecting to hit 10k within this few days
The price of MCO wont ever go down again as people r stocking up to benefit frm this gain .

They been stocking up on it all day.
1185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Centra Tech ICO | Multi-Blockchain Worldwide Debit Card & Insured Wallet on: September 04, 2017, 12:52:27 AM
The Centra Wallet App announcement is tonight!

Very nice! Can't wait to see how it looks.
1186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WaltonChain WTC on: September 04, 2017, 12:49:59 AM
Even though the coin has gone up a pretty good amount you need to note that it's only on 1 exchange. Also bittrex is following their twitter account so we should see walton listed on bittrex soon enough. The team looks great they actually care about the investors which is also a big plus. I mean you can wait for a dip to buy but either way the coin has a low supply and only listed on one exchnage so far. Will go to $10+ Easy. Also forgot to mention the coin has a great team and there also is rumors of bithumb picking the coin up ( not 100% sure if the bithumb rumor is accurate) but regardless this coin should end up being on other top exchanges that have high volume meaning more of a price increase. Buy and hold. This coin is a hidden gem in my opinion and even at the market cap it is at right now is still very highly undervalued.

https://twitter.com/Waltonchain/status/904156816401039360


They are also working with government officials and are looking to expand to other exhcnages. They also got an investment from the government of fujian providence.


https://gyazo.com/574d17edcf7925d1d3620d7e1a82f790


Proof of bittrex following their twitter account.

Don't believe that. A rep of bittrex said that the twitter account follows random coins sometimes because of the account holder and doesn't necessary mean they will be listed. I would love it though.
1187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: red pulse ICO worth it? on: September 03, 2017, 10:28:40 PM
i don't see any reason why to participate in ico. if it is a good project that you belive in just wait until the price goes down in the future maybe even below ico price and get it off exchange. why everybody likes icos so much i do not understand


Of course it is true what you say, but if it is a good project when after ICO will be on the exchange it is difficult to drop below the initial price and maybe it does a nice x5 or x10

Yup, ICO always has a good pump in the beginning because of hyper and demand. Whatever happens after depends on the coin.
1188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: September 03, 2017, 10:26:11 PM
I believe it is more probable that the VISA deal will go through than not (my own analysis, not solid information). I just think what happened was a case of terrible PR and insufficient experience and ability to deal with the media and manage expectations. Scammers usually tend to keep a low profile. Kris is obviously keen on showing his face pretty frequently; this might seem irrelevant, but is a good indicator that he is comfortable with being known and traceable. I have already sold my tokens at a good profit, but hope to be able to jump back in at the right time (given that crypto markets operate 24/7 and an announcement could come out at any time) to make some more

I think he said something on slack to the tunes of it would probably be a waste to release an app without Visa approval.
1189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Centra Tech ICO | Multi-Blockchain Worldwide Debit Card & Insured Wallet on: September 03, 2017, 10:24:28 PM
But what I don't know is the new ICO price, will it be lower than the current market price or what is the team going to do about this since it is now trading on exchanges, the team need to manage this situation very well

You can't manage a decentralized exchange like EtherDelta. Buy it when it's low, probably till the website has it's update the price will move up fast to 0,005 ETH. If you really want a card wait till 19 September...

Prices are pretty good on ED right now, about $1.15.
1190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WaltonChain WTC on: September 03, 2017, 10:23:22 PM
Chinese guys from binance must be kidding..
20 wtc (~40$ as for now, don't know about future price) for providing your full kyc including selfie!
While that's nice marketing trick to enlist more kyc'ed users in, i consider it bad deal.
On the top of it, 2 btc daily withdraw limit for anon user vs bittrex's 4 (with burner phone registration). And Chinese exchanges track record for full-exchange-scale freezing crypto withdrawals for months...

If anyone is too much eager to sell their kyc for money, go for kyber ico. ~3 ether capped investment will get you near sure *3 ROI in some week (in exchange for kyc+selfie). or kik ico..
Today's crypto users just don't care about privacy

I predict that in 1 year from now we will see marketplaces on blockchain for lending this kind of info for ico participation (maybe also exchange register). lending means the lender fills in the info directly to legit ico site and gets tokens compensation for it upon success (or penalty to reputation if fail). Ico anyone?  Wink The demand is clear with some users don't care about privacy and want to earn passive income, while others care and ready to pay..


I mean they log your IP already. KYC is mandatory if you want to trade big anyways. It is a trade-off you want to trade small and stay anonymous or legitimize yourself and be able to withdraw big.
1191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: September 03, 2017, 10:17:58 PM
According to UPS my 4 miners should be here Tuesday!!!!


Happy for you. I am still waiting for my repair items  Roll Eyes

Didnt take 3 weeks for a significant amount of miners to break down lol

What happened ? broken hashing-boards ?


Not until now. And i pray that they don't fault.
They have thousands of HW errors already while other got 30 lol

But most of the control boards were broken. And bitmain being bitmain, they are letting me wait and its a pain in the ass troubleshooting and solving the problems. Have been dealing with them for almost 2 weeks now and im still waiting for replacements.


I admit shipping times and customs play a role too

Where are you located? If in US, Bitmainrepair might be easier.

Bitmain also has a repair location in the US now for the warranty repairs.

See their official repair guide at bitmain.com for more.


No my miners are located in europe just like me. I got really good tech guys taking care of my equipment in a data center providing dry and cold airflow. It happens we all know they are not the most reliable products, but it can be frustrating if you are all geeky like me in that area and it breaks lol

Ouch. At least it isn't a large percentage of your machines. If a small fish like us has 2 broken boards out of 3 or 4, that's a majority of our investment! We are losing a ton of money waiting for it to be repaired.
1192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] FunFair.io - Disrupting Online Gaming - New Casino Platform on: September 03, 2017, 10:15:53 PM
As I understand it, the bitdice is a competitor to FUN, what are the advantages of the FUN, the project is very interesting, although it was released long ago

By the way, is there Russian sipping? Please send a link, please

Also would like to hear the answer for this question. There appear a lot of competitors in this sphere, bitdice, vdice, daocasino etc. What are the main advantages of FunFair. And why the heck the price for the token is so low?  Shocked

Bitdice has no legal counsel to speak of. They are listing a dividend based token that fails the howey test, they will likely lose any gambling license and fall afoul of securities law if you read the recent SEC update, vdice is slow and boring. Its  a spreadsheet that takes minutes to confirm with expensive gas costs. Dao has no underlying tech to compete with fate channels.

@Bitcoinorama What's your position at FunFair? Assuming you work for them? No ill intentions just looking to place what you said in clearer context. (Bolded & underlined part mine.) Thanks!

I had Bitdice rep approach me in the Telegram chat and he had no idea about Howey, that a dividend paying token would fall afoul of securities law (Goolgel SEC Vs Howey - its the standard test for securities - US has been vague but they will always refer to that and thats what icos are being recommended to ensure they meet its mentioned in their latest update and why many icos are refusing to accept us citizens). If thats the case (and if they do a token raise in general) they will likely not be granted a gaming license or retain any they might have. Bitdice is not a developer but a third party casino operator which needs a gaming license to legally operate.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/sec-weighs-ico-tokens-securities-ether-still-labeled-currency/

Under the Howey Test, a transaction is a security (or investment contract) if:
It is an investment of money
There is an expectation of profits from the investment
The investment of money is in a common enterprise
Any profit comes from the efforts of a promoter or third party

Bitdice is offering an investment and specifically offers an investment in a common enterprise gives an expectation of profits from an investment.


Of course BitDice is offering an investment. If it wasn't so close, they probably would've opened it up to US citizens. Of course, they need a gaming license for each territory they want. I woulnd't decide right now if being a US gaming license because of a token sale is an automatic rejection. 888 Holdings was a notorious spammer when it received its US gaming license.
1193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: September 03, 2017, 10:04:12 PM
Back up to $13 Smiley. If it is insider trading, then there can only be one set of news coming!
1194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OmiseGo on: September 03, 2017, 05:22:36 PM
Might be some pullback due to other projects. Once you see real world integration. Mooning.
1195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO] BitDice - Join The ICO Of The Biggest Crowdfunded Casino With 2300Ƀ PROFIT on: September 03, 2017, 05:15:06 PM
Yes price fluctuation is effecting the amount raised. It shifts up and down as prices change but the end figure will be firm when ico closes and they cash out.

Why it is less than $10m again? There were not dumps of Bitcoin or ETH

They went down around 10%. Same thing with LTC. 10% reduction from total funds was not unexpected.
1196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [OMG] OmiseGO - Speculation & Discussion on: September 03, 2017, 05:09:05 PM
Minor price downturn. Nothing to worry about. Think long term with something this big.
1197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: September 03, 2017, 05:06:58 PM
According to UPS my 4 miners should be here Tuesday!!!!


Happy for you. I am still waiting for my repair items  Roll Eyes

Didnt take 3 weeks for a significant amount of miners to break down lol

What happened ? broken hashing-boards ?


Not until now. And i pray that they don't fault.
They have thousands of HW errors already while other got 30 lol

But most of the control boards were broken. And bitmain being bitmain, they are letting me wait and its a pain in the ass troubleshooting and solving the problems. Have been dealing with them for almost 2 weeks now and im still waiting for replacements.


I admit shipping times and customs play a role too

Where are you located? If in US, Bitmainrepair might be easier.
1198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin on: September 03, 2017, 05:05:47 PM

There are some rumors about Litecoin have big update in September. From June, the price of Litecoin has increase after long time stand still low price around @0.012x - @0.010x BTC. Today, I also know detail about that update, thanks for information!
For what need all this updates if transactions less than DogeCoin?

They are testing lightning already. They already sent a transaction of 1 cent without any fees.
1199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: September 03, 2017, 05:04:28 PM
Monaco has the potential to be another Dash, I'll keep holding thanks.

Same. It went from $8.xx to $12+ in a couple days. Strong hands!
1200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why people buy etc ? on: September 03, 2017, 09:25:04 AM
In my opinion, ethereum classic is a strong currency and it can be the same as ethereum. In aspects, it is not different from ethereum but I do not know why people only focus on ethereum. Soon, when ethereum successfully activate the proof-of-stake, miners will no longer can mine ethereum. They will move to ETC to mine Wink

I mean they can but will it be profitable?
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