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1081  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Doubt about mining (€) on: June 08, 2011, 07:23:37 PM
1 USD = 0.686018 EUR

2BTC * 28USD * .686EUR/USD = 38.416EUR
1082  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Deepbit getting DDoS again? on: June 08, 2011, 07:21:44 PM
Unless you are running like a THash bitcoin farm, a few minutes is not "a lot of mining opportunity".  The site seems fine to me.
1083  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Way to find out your solved blocks? on: June 08, 2011, 06:50:46 PM
Why would knowing if you randomly solved some blocks help you decide if you should mine solo?  If you just want an estimate it's a pretty obvious calculation to begin with.  Just see how much you earned in BTC, add back their fee, and divide by 50. That's how many blocks you would have solved on average by solo mining.  

You obviously don't understand bitcoin. I already know what my average Bitcoin solving rate should be but... Bitcoin involves a large amount of variance, people are happily hashing away and they might find a block in 5 seconds, or they might never find a block. The reason we mine on pools is that we don't want to deal with that variance. Pools incentivize people by paying them to hash for them even when they don't actually solve a single block.

So, finding statistics about how many blocks I've actually solved gives me a little history on how lucky a fellow I am. Thus far I'm a very unlucky fellow. And if that trend continues staying on a pool is the most reasonable course of action. If I missed something and I solved a buncha blocks without knowing it, that gives me the confidence to say I could potentially go solo.

Capice?
1084  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: If you own a single 6970 and you are using the GUI Miner please do me a favor on: June 08, 2011, 06:17:53 PM
If you're wondering if your device should be labelled as Cypress, no, it should not. 69xx series are part of the Northern Islands architecture, I believe 6970s are caymans.

If you're wondering about device #, that varies by computer, device 0 happens often, sometimes device 1 happens.

You don't really need to ask in such a cryptic way.
1085  Bitcoin / Mining / Way to find out your solved blocks? on: June 08, 2011, 06:08:11 PM
As the title suggests, is there an easy way to find what blocks if any you've solved (while mining with pools)?

Most of my time was spent on btcguild and deepbit, I know BTCGuild lists who has solved blocks but I don't think deepbit does.

I'm mainly curious to see how many blocks I've solved so I can estimate if its worth it to begin solo mining. In 2 months I'm not sure that i've solved any Sad
1086  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining Dilemma on: June 08, 2011, 05:54:28 PM
Stealing company resources is certainly something that can get your ass sued. I'd not recommend it, sounds like you have a capable IT guy watching.

1087  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: SOLUTION: Right now, stop mining on deepbit and pick a new pool. on: June 08, 2011, 11:33:54 AM
deepbit dropped from 50% to about 48% tonight, so it's possible keeping all these threads being made had an effect.
1088  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: how the hell do i set this shit up on: June 08, 2011, 10:23:23 AM
you can use the client on the front page of bitcoin.org and still not use deepbit (kudos to you for reading that much).

Simply point your workers to another pool:

Major alternatives:

Slush -- mining.bitcoin.cz
btcguild - btcguild.com
btcmine -- btcmine.com

major miners: GUIMiner
                   Phoenix

Most pools will have simple instructions for how to set up both clients to start mining on their pools. Away you go!

EDIT: Quick warning, you will get very low returns on your CPU mining, and/or NVidia card / mobo video. So low that unless your electricity is free you might reconsider the idea altogether.
1089  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: BTC Guild - 0% Fees, Long polling, SSL, JSON API, and more [~600 gH/sec] on: June 08, 2011, 10:20:01 AM
My payout was almost double my estimated and I came in late on the round (switched to slush during the recent network timeouts to reduce load), so yes, the estimated being reported is incorrect and looks to be because the shares count is off.

I'd guess everything will be peachy in a week after the servers get load balanced properly and bugs are squashed.

Same, my actual payout was what it should have been.

My only concern is that 3 of my workers are getting about 2.5% stales right now. My other workers aren't reporting that high an amount which is good, just concerned why some of them are. Is it because I'm being routed from west-coast to the east coast with increased latency?
1090  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: If you were Tycho, would YOU fork it? on: June 08, 2011, 10:15:01 AM
If I were tycho I'd wait. 50% is a terrible time to start forking, perilously close to having authority removed from me. If my pool were still growing as his is, with no reason to see it slowing I'd let my pool grow larger and larger. When I had assumed a large enough safety margin, and people felt all safe and comfortable since I didn't do anything for a long time after 50%, then and only then would I consider any shenanigans.

Though to be fair Tycho is making about $2500 / day right now, so he's sitting pretty. He only has to wait until he gets tired of all this pool operator bitcoin nonsense to start cashing out.

EDIT: Sorry $3,250 / day.

Ummm no he is not making near that much.  The pool makes about 3,700 BTC a day at given rates.

Deepbit takes about 1.5% of that (3% fee, but there are no stale shares or invalid blocks which accounts for about 1.5%).

1.5% of 3,700 = 55.5 BTC a day.

55.5 BTC a day x day average of $26 = $1443

He claims to have a couple other people involved and they are sharing profits...

Also you are forgetting the costs of running several high end servers.

Depending on how much he is sharing with others he could be making as little as $400-500 a day, or as much as $1000 or so.  Still a lot of money IMO, but not NEAR to how much you think he is making.

Yay, finally someone with different numbers. Much more fun!

Using the current data of difficulty 567358 and deepbits reported pool rate of 2366GHash/sec that calculates to 4,175 Bitcoins a day on average (currently deepbit is on a very unlucky streak so it is only doing about 3450 bitcoins a day, but that's just a bad luck patch).

So with a current mtgox price of $26 and average coin rate of 4175 that's $26 * 4175 * .03 = $3,256. If you count all the pay-per-share people that he rakes 10% off the top of, and doesn't pay out to for solved blocks that actually gets quite a bit higher. But I don't have his statistics on what that is.
If his bad luck stream continues then yes he will make less than $3,256, but higher hashrate typically yields lower variance, so he should be closer to the average than most.
The lack of invalids stales and whatnot is a fair point, but I'm going to guess that the PPS crowd offsets this and leave my numbers above.

I never said that was net, that's just how much the operator pulls off the top. If someone asks you how much you make at your job you don't immediately calculate all your bills and taxes and costs before answering do you? I have no idea how many people he is working with nor his costs, and never made any claim to that effect. Regardless he is doing very well for himself. Good for him too.
1091  Other / Obsolete (selling) / Re: 850 kw power supply on: June 08, 2011, 10:00:49 AM
An 850kw power supply would blow up your house anyway.
1092  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: FOR SALE: PCIe x1 & x16 Extender Cables, Mining Chassis & GPU Dummy Plugs on: June 08, 2011, 09:59:46 AM
Is the link for the pre-order mining chassis working for anyone else?

I'm interested but the link says "Home ::  Computer Hardware Chassis ::
Sorry, the product was not found." for me.

I'd be interested but I need a price estimate to see if it is worthwhile.
1093  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Co-op? on: June 08, 2011, 09:01:57 AM
If europe was so damned expensive I'd be down for movin out there. It's cold there too which helps.

I'm exactly the type of person you describe, I pay a LOT for power (Cali tiered rates are one of the highest in the US) and I live in a small lil apartment that I am literally heating with my mining equipment. But sadly I'm not a trusting fellow. If this takes off though bitcoin could be the first step towards world peace, no one would support attacking another nation if that nation housed all their bitmining equipment!
1094  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What's a better use of Electric? on: June 08, 2011, 08:58:12 AM
Marijuana is still a federally controlled substance regardless of state law. And federal pound me in the ass prisons are not fun places to go either Sad

Troo Pokes, *but* they don't prosecute on 99 plants or less. They are mostly hitting dispensaries for the last year plus.  Since you can grow 2 to 4 ound plants, you can harvest a pretty good pile off of a single digit number of plants. You just gotta sit on your indoor from like haloween til st. patricks day til the outdoor flood subsides.

I'm a bit lacking on weed-math, so perhaps you'll bare with me. You're saying you can grow 99 x 3 pound (split the diff) marijuana plants? Is that 3 pounds per month? week? year?

If so, even per year that's not too shabby. Combine the two hobbies, bitcoin and the sticky stuff and you can make yourself a tidy little profit.
1095  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: BTC Guild - 0% Fees, Long polling, SSL, JSON API, and more [~600 gH/sec] on: June 08, 2011, 08:53:32 AM
I'll just assume it's a website error until I actually get paid the much lower estimate.

This is by far my favorite pool, very fair methods, pay me now, and payouts on invalids if I choose.  Would hate for something to be seriously wrong and have a massive ship jump to the pool that shall remain nameless.

Heh I like that, the new voldamort.
1096  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Co-op? on: June 08, 2011, 08:51:03 AM
If I could stay with my precious precious investments, a free place to stay in europe makin mad bling would be great. sweet fiber optic gaming too.

But trusting some random on the internet not to take my crap and run... Sad
1097  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What's a better use of Electric? on: June 08, 2011, 08:48:35 AM
Marijuana is still a federally controlled substance regardless of state law. And federal pound me in the ass prisons are not fun places to go either Sad
1098  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: For the love of god, point your miner away from deepbit on: June 08, 2011, 08:14:28 AM
I just pointed my 1.2 GH/s to BTC Guild. If I'd have found them earlier I would never have pointed at deepbit in the first place. The estimated MH/s of each worker is a huge feature that I often found myself wishing deepbit had. I still have a couple miner threads pointed at deepbit, but those are my -f60 threads in case my new primary pool goes down  Cool

You can also point your miners at multiple pools at once. Like If you ever accidentally started two miners on the same card, both miners start mining at half rate. You can do this so that if one pool stops sending you work, the miner with work will take over using the entire GPU. I haven't done extensive testing, but i image there is a very small drop in rate because two miners are running on one GPU, but I could never notice it.  

Which is exactly what I'm doing, I'm just running deepbit's threat with the -f60 flag to ensure that it gets minimum priority (default priority is 30, lower is better). As long as BTC Guild's processes keep running, deepbit only gets 1-3 MH/s from me. I'd rather not contribute to the deepbit problem, even with my overflow, but I need that per-share accounting.

You can use swebit to get per share at a higher payout if you want a Pay Per Share backup.

swepool.com I think? or swepool.net? I haven't set it up as my back up yet, but others report good things.

EDIT: swepool.net

Pays 0.000081077523877986 btc/share vs deepbits 0.00007931496901107 BTC per every sumbitted share. Instant payout too.
1099  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Questions about quad mining rig on: June 08, 2011, 08:13:21 AM
1. Yes but it will be a pain in the ass. You have to plug in monitor, overclock, start mining. Unplug monitor switch cards, repeat. And every time a miner crashes or you restart you have to do it again.

2. Yes you can, there are some problems with crossfire that I don't recall offhand, but as I remember it lowers your hashrate and can be buggy. Someone else will have to give you more details though.

3. See above

4. Crossfire does not change power consumption.

5. Yep.

6. No it does not. All windows versions should mine at roughly the same pace, if you disable aero and all the graphical desktop crap and don't watch a lot of movies and things.
1100  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: If you were Tycho, would YOU fork it? on: June 08, 2011, 08:11:02 AM
Somewhat offtopic: Why do people keep quoting my own math back to me in responses to me? If I said he makes a million a year, you don't need to prove to me that he makes a million a year.

Dude you don't understand, the point is, you did the math wrong.

Elephants * bananas + apples = Monkeys
Barracudas + Battlefield 3 - Dinosaurs = Humans

You take Humans/Monkeys = Rise of the Apes (Planet of the Apes Prequel)

Then you add Jeff Goldblum
And you take the negative Rotten Tomatoes score and add Macaroni and Cheese and a tub of ice cream.

After you vomit and cry yourself to sleep that night, you wake up and remember
Tycho is making bazillions in Chinese Yuan off of Deepbit.
That is all.

Fair answer.

Just for fun though I was curious how much Yuan that would actually be.

1,000,000.00 USD   =   6,476,805.95 CNY. Tycho can have one hell of a party in china.
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